Hey guys, I was wondering if any audiophiles could help me out.
I am looking to purchase a new headunit, my minimum requirements are 6channel 2.5V or greater pre-amps, built in HD-Radio, and A2DP support.
The problem I am seeing with A2DP support is that they all seem to transmit at low sound quality, have hissing, popping, skipping, clipping at low sound levels etc. I read that this is due to the standard codec being SBC, which compresses depending on processing power used. I do not know how the Atrix handles SBC, and would prefer it to directly pass my 320KB/S MP3 codec, which is a capability of A2DP, I just don't know if any manufacturers utilize it yet.
Is this technology not ready for the mainstream yet? I have a lot of 320KBPS MP3's and I would like to be able to listen to them at full volume until my speakers clip, and not suffer actual technical limitations.
I have a Motorola Atrix, as well as the car dock, so the car dock does have an easily accessible 3.5mm jack, but I was really hoping to take advantage of A2DP and maybe use built in hands free calling.
Sorry if this is a dup, tried searching and looked at similar threads, and there were none that had any legitimate answers.
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Hi, I have a Palm Treo 750 and an original jawbone bluetooth headset. I was wondering if there's a way for me to play music through my bluetooth headset? Thanks!
i highly doubt it, those types of bluetooth earpieces are designed specifically for talking and as far as i know do not support stereo sound.
if you want to listen to music through bluetooth headphones you have to go out and purchase a pair of MotorROKR S9 headphones
http://direct.motorola.com/hellomoto/s9/
i own a pair and they are wicked for listening to music, although i'm not a fan of the earbud types of headphones and if you don't have the right sized head they wont fit properly, however they do support stereo sound for music. another point about them, they suck for taking phone calls and talking with them, they pick up way too much background noise, i only use them for music.
The only other alternative would be the logitech type, which i believe are more expensive but same idea. and they're not earbuds which appeals to me, i only bought the motorola type cuz they had been reduced to half as much as i remembered them being when i used to work for best buy lol.
these are the logitech alternative (never used them so i don't know what they're like although i imagine they kick ass for listening to music)
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/speakers_audio/headphones/devices/212&cl=US,EN
Looking at the product info on the site, these do come with an adapter for any other music device with a jack plug-in that doesn't have built in bluetooth.
Hi! I'm interested in buying the Desire Z, but I'm not familiar with the sound quality on A2DP headphones on Android. On WM there are settings like bitpool in the registry that can change the quality a lot, but as far as I read, there are no such settings on Android and the quality is really bad.
Is it true or is there a way to change some settings to improve quality? This is really important to me and I don't think I would be buying a phone that can't play my music properly.
My htc hero and car stereo utilizes A2DP perfectly, streaming audio to car speakers. Have not noticed any bad quality, not åk expert though
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Thank you for your reply, I'm hoping that I will be able to hear it myself sometime soon and see how it sounds.
Btw, have you had any disconnects and things like that?
I tested my jabra BT320s on a desire I have access to and the A2DP was spot on, it used the handsfree function aswell without issue pausing the music then carrying on after the call etc...
Am impressed, this was with stock tmobile UK firmware aswell.
Only personal experience
I have to say that when compared to Nokia N900 the a2dp sound quality doesn't seem to be as good. The music sounds somehow thinner. To make these comparisons I have used the same media files, same nokia bh-214 handsfree and same sennheiser mx550 headphones.
I hope it is possible to somehow tweak the a2dp sound quality since i think it's all a question of a2dp audio quality settings.
It has the be said though that in contrast to nokias bluetooth implementation the android one does handle switching from music to phone calls and back quite flawlessly.
I have to say that when compared to Nokia N900 the a2dp sound quality doesn't seem to be as good. The music sounds somehow thinner. To make these comparisons I have used the same media files, same nokia bh-214 handsfree and same sennheiser mx550 headphones.
I hope it is possible to somehow tweak the a2dp sound quality since i think it's all a question of a2dp audio quality settings.
It has the be said though that in contrast to nokias bluetooth implementation the android one does handle switching from music to phone calls and back quite flawlessly.
Are there any good in-ear headphones with working previous/next buttons to control next/previous track and volume in any music player?
Hi well I've been using the Altec Lansing BackBeat 903 Bluetooth Headset for about 3 months now and that has all the features your looking for plus they sound damn good as well.
I use the stock headphones with winamp, and double tap the pause button and it skips to the next track
But for a real solution with back.. you could get one of the little reciever thingies with a 3.5 jack, so you get wireless + controls + any headphone you like ^_^. But there could be some quality loss if its cheap..
Motorola's s9-HD also have theses foncions enabled.
Thanks for the replies. Those two seem to be ear-hugging types, are there any with regular design?
the best would be to use the Nokia remotes that came with the n95 and others. But apparently it doesn't work since the layout inside the jack are not the same between Samsung and Nokia... too bad
I have a question about this topic, I tried to use the apple in-ear headphones with the mic and the volume buttons on my SGS but when i fully plug it into the jack, theres no sound.... but if i leave it out abit then it works fine.... Do u guys know what is going on?
Any Bluetooth headset supporting A2DP (Advanced Audio Distribution Profile : For Stereo audio) and AVRCP (Audio/Video Remote Control Profile) should work. There are plenty of BT headsets out there. Search for A2DP Bluetooth headsets (if they have media player controls then the chances are they support AVRCP too).
I use a Bluetooth clip, it gives a certain amount of wireless freedom and the ability to use any 3.5mm headphone. If you already have a good pair of headphones you like then a BT clip is perhaps the best way to go.
Here is what I use (Motorola S605):
With a display (SonyEricsson WM600 ):
Both of them have a built in Stereo FM radio as well, if you listen to radio that could come in handy (since the radio on SGS is mono ).
EDIT: One last thing, Audio quality over Bluetooth is slightly lower compared to a wired connection. This is due to the compression codec used in Bluetooth transmission. However, the difference depends entirely on your expectation of sound quality and the quality of your audio files. For example if you are an average user who is happy with a pair of $25 head/earphones listening to MP3s encoded at 128kbps then you won't notice a difference. But if you are an audiophile having $100+ headphones listening to 256kbps+ encoded MP3s then you’ll definitely notice a difference.
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But if you are an audiophile having $100+ headphones listening to 256kbps+ encoded MP3s then you’ll definitely notice a difference.
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Could you please tell me is this possible with bluetooth clips:
I connect wired headphones to SGS directly (not to the bluetooth clip 3.5mm hole), pair the bluetooth clip with SGS, start player and listen to music through headphones and have ability to start-stop player by bluetooth clip buttons. When the call comes I hear it in headphones and start-stop player or push call answer button on bluetooth clip. After pushing answer button I hear calling person's voice in headphones but talk to the bluetooth mic. After call is ended I can start-stop playing music again by bluetooth buttons. This is 100% tested or it's is appeared to be working? Thanks.
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Could you please tell me is this possible with bluetooth clips:
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I don't think it works like that, but I have to check to confirm.
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pair the bluetooth clip with SGS, start player and listen to music through headphones and have ability to start-stop player by bluetooth clip buttons.
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When you are not using BT audio, I doubt the player will respond to BT player controls.
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After pushing answer button I hear calling person's voice in headphones but talk to the bluetooth mic.
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I dont think you can split the mic and headset function like that, either you use the BT for both mic and headphone or not at all. (unless someone modifies the driver). But again, something I have to check to confirm.
For basic call and volume controls something like this might work.
Here is another alternative, but no mic (not released yet either).
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Here is what I use (Motorola S605):
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Very helpful, purchasing from ebay as we speak, im sick of not being able to switch song whilst cycling...
Just a question really, do you just use the standard samsung music player?
PhoenixFx said:
Any Bluetooth headset supporting A2DP (Advanced Audio Distribution Profile : For Stereo audio) and AVRCP (Audio/Video Remote Control Profile) should work. There are plenty of BT headsets out there. Search for A2DP Bluetooth headsets (if they have media player controls then the chances are they support AVRCP too).
I use a Bluetooth clip, it gives a certain amount of wireless freedom and the ability to use any 3.5mm headphone. If you already have a good pair of headphones you like then a BT clip is perhaps the best way to go.
Here is what I use (Motorola S605):
With a display (SonyEricsson WM600 ):
Both of them have a built in Stereo FM radio as well, if you listen to radio that could come in handy (since the radio on SGS is mono ).
EDIT: One last thing, Audio quality over Bluetooth is slightly lower compared to a wired connection. This is due to the compression codec used in Bluetooth transmission. However, the difference depends entirely on your expectation of sound quality and the quality of your audio files. For example if you are an average user who is happy with a pair of $25 head/earphones listening to MP3s encoded at 128kbps then you won't notice a difference. But if you are an audiophile having $100+ headphones listening to 256kbps+ encoded MP3s then you’ll definitely notice a difference.
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I like these, thanks.
How does this things work? Do you plug anything to the usb port or do you just enable blutooth and play? Also can you use previous/next buttons while the screen is locked? Can you do these with the default player or do you need anything like WidgetLocker and add the player to the lock screen?
Also are there any wired versions of these?
Does anyone know if apt-x audio is part of the Touchwiz rom or built into the phone itself? I'm using the HTC bluetooth dongle in my car for audio streaming and love it, sounds absolutely awesome. But, I do want to flash CM10 or another jellybean rom. Will apt-x audio still work with other roms or is that just an audio codec that Samsung licensed so it will only work with stock Touchwiz?
If working with only Touchwiz is the case, will Jellywiz have apt-x?
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Does anyone know if apt-x audio is part of the Touchwiz rom or built into the phone itself? I'm using the HTC bluetooth dongle in my car for audio streaming and love it, sounds absolutely awesome. But, I do want to flash CM10 or another jellybean rom. Will apt-x audio still work with other roms or is that just an audio codec that Samsung licensed so it will only work with stock Touchwiz?
If working with only Touchwiz is the case, will Jellywiz have apt-x?
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Apt-x is a proprietary codec supplied by CSR, incorporated on the CSR BT chipset integrated on the phone. What is unclear is whether the modifications to the ROM and/or radio FW would disable or otherwise disable/impact the application of the codec when streaming music from the phone via BT.
I have repeatedly asked this question and have yet to get an answer. I think this is a somewhat critical issue given the increasing popularity of the Apt-x codec and the use of the handset as a source for streaming musical content.
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Apt-x is a proprietary codec supplied by CSR, incorporated on the CSR BT chipset integrated on the phone. What is unclear is whether the modifications to the ROM and/or radio FW would disable or otherwise disable/impact the application of the codec when streaming music from the phone via BT.
I have repeatedly asked this question and have yet to get an answer. I think this is a somewhat critical issue given the increasing popularity of the Apt-x codec and the use of the handset as a source for streaming musical content.
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It would be great to get a definite answer. I wonder if there's a way to tell if it's running (besides comparing audio quality by ear). For example an app that shows the status of apt-x while audio is streaming. I didn't know it was on the bluetooth chip itself. Maybe it's always on? If it's not enabled on other roms it would be nice to find a way to turn it on, like a zip file that can be flashed to enable it. I wish I new something about programming or fiddling with what makes android tick.
And yes I agree phones aren't just for making calls anymore, it's for all forms of high quality entertainment. It makes no sense to stream low quality music when you have a top of the line phone with high quality speakers to match.
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One other thing I should note. To realize the improved sound quality, the device you are streaming to, must also utilize the CSR BT chip w/Apt-x support. Otherwise, your device will likely render using AAC or something more mundane.
The HTC Car Stereoclip utilizes apt-x for streaming. I have a semi-permanent hookup in my car. The clip in tucked away behind a compartment in my center console with the AUX cable and power cable hooked up to it at all times. The clip turns on when I start my car and I have an NFC sticker that starts up Car Home, bluetooth and Spotify. Sounds just like it's hooked up to an AUX cable. It's worth investing in if you use a car a lot and want good sounding wireless tunes.
So I have been playing around the audiowizard settings hoping it helps my gaming hearing experience, but no matter what I try it seems the same to me! Do I need an ASUS head set to get it to work or dose it has no effect on the gaming in general?
Supposedly it applies to everything, but probably more noticeable with a headset (not necessarily from Asus)
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