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One X or GSM Galaxy Nexus?

Hey guys, I just sold my LTE Note and now I need to decide what my next phone is going to be. I have narrowed it down to the HTC One X and the GSM Samsung Galaxy Nexus.
I'm leaning towards the One X, but I know it has the locked bootloader so I am skeptical. I also see some people talking about problems with multitasking.
What are some opinions on the HTC One X? Is the AT&T version going to get good dev support? Anybody move from a GSM Nexus to the One X and regret it? Should I just get an international version for the better processor and unlockable bootloader?

one x, better screen, battery life, camera. just use apex launcher until we get bootloader unlock and cm9. theres a bunch of mods out there too, you can swap the multitask button with menu and long press home becomes multitask, my favorite

Thatg is correct.

International version doesn't have the better processor. More doesn't always equal better.

macked said:
Hey guys, I just sold my LTE Note and now I need to decide what my next phone is going to be. I have narrowed it down to the HTC One X and the GSM Samsung Galaxy Nexus.
I'm leaning towards the One X, but I know it has the locked bootloader so I am skeptical. I also see some people talking about problems with multitasking.
What are some opinions on the HTC One X? Is the AT&T version going to get good dev support? Anybody move from a GSM Nexus to the One X and regret it? Should I just get an international version for the better processor and unlockable bootloader?
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AT&T One X user here. Hardware is fantastic; software is buggy. I ordered a Gnex from the play store and it is arriving today. Assuming that wifi and push email work properly on the Gnex, I will be keeping it and return the One X.
If somehow wifi and push email are as bad on the Gnex as they are on the One X, then I will return the Gnex.

macked said:
Hey guys, I just sold my LTE Note and now I need to decide what my next phone is going to be. I have narrowed it down to the HTC One X and the GSM Samsung Galaxy Nexus.
I'm leaning towards the One X, but I know it has the locked bootloader so I am skeptical. I also see some people talking about problems with multitasking.
What are some opinions on the HTC One X? Is the AT&T version going to get good dev support? Anybody move from a GSM Nexus to the One X and regret it? Should I just get an international version for the better processor and unlockable bootloader?
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Sorry i'd probably go with the Gnex -The Multitasking thing makes my skin crawl - I could go with Apple's way of doing oppose to HTC's version - 2 step forward 3 steps back. I'm considering the Samsung Note - why did you sale yours?

chrikenn said:
AT&T One X user here. Hardware is fantastic; software is buggy. I ordered a Gnex from the play store and it is arriving today. Assuming that wifi and push email work properly on the Gnex, I will be keeping it and return the One X.
If somehow wifi and push email are as bad on the Gnex as they are on the One X, then I will return the Gnex.
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software update for the one x fixes all issues, im on it now, could not be happier
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1649658

thatg said:
software update for the one x fixes all issues, im on it now, could not be happier
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1649658
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Lots of people have also reported problems with the update, plus you can't revert back, which might make it difficult to return the phone. Gotta wait for the official but hopefully it will be out before my 30 days are up.
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I'm returning the GNex today but am a little sad to see it go. I bought the nexus as soon as it hit the Play Store but for all it has going for it, the HTC is better where it really counts.
On the Nexus the UI is really smooth and I like the look of stock ICS. But I've had radio issues and the speed on AT&T is so much faster on the HOX and I'm not in an LTE area. Add in the better screen (way way better in sunlight and no fringing from Pentile) better camera, louder and clearer speakerphone, and you have a great phone that works very well.
Of course everyone has their own opinion and needs. For me this is finally the one that got me off the Apple cart.
(seriously the HSPA+ Nexus got around 4-6 down and the HOX gets up to 11+ (10 consistently with 4 bars at my office.) Plus AT&T will only give you 3G unless you give them a bogus IMEI since the Nexus is unlocked.)
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thatg said:
one x, better screen, battery life, camera. just use apex launcher until we get bootloader unlock and cm9. theres a bunch of mods out there too, you can swap the multitask button with menu and long press home becomes multitask, my favorite
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the LTE version has this mod now??..i thought they couldn't do the long press home?

Thanks for the reply's guys. It's looking more and more like it will be One X. Now I just gotta wait for paypal to release my cash and I'll be hitting amazon up immediately.
If anyone has any further opinions please share them.

i came from the Gnex using it since it came out. One X is just plain better.

I've had the gnex for a few months now and just purchased the HOX. Trying to decide which one to keep. I unfortunately don't live in an lte market so that's really not an issue at this point.
They both have their pros and cons but the one thing I can't seem to get past is the screen on the HOX...it's awesome! For me that might ultimately be the deciding factor.
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Rickinsav said:
I'm returning the GNex today but am a little sad to see it go. I bought the nexus as soon as it hit the Play Store but for all it has going for it, the HTC is better where it really counts.
On the Nexus the UI is really smooth and I like the look of stock ICS. But I've had radio issues and the speed on AT&T is so much faster on the HOX and I'm not in an LTE area. Add in the better screen (way way better in sunlight and no fringing from Pentile) better camera, louder and clearer speakerphone, and you have a great phone that works very well.
Of course everyone has their own opinion and needs. For me this is finally the one that got me off the Apple cart.
(seriously the HSPA+ Nexus got around 4-6 down and the HOX gets up to 11+ (10 consistently with 4 bars at my office.) Plus AT&T will only give you 3G unless you give them a bogus IMEI since the Nexus is unlocked.)
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lol my GNex was doing good if it got 4 down. on AT&T LTE here i get 20 down easy. just kills the GNex when it comes to network speed. this is also faster than Verizon's LTE network here in Charlotte.
but yeah, as others have said, better camera and better screen. then throw in a better SoC and i don't see why you'd want a GNex. the only thing i miss about my GNex is it felt better in my hand and i loved having the sleep/wake button on the side versus the top. i'm a leftly and having it placed there had me handling the phone more with my right hand just because it was so easy to turn on and not have to re-adjust my hand. always have to re-adjust with the HOX no matter which hand i'm using. if the bootloader ever gets unlocked and we have s-off, though, wake can be re-mapped to the volume rocker which would make this tiny complaint non-existent.

Crew, I hope I am not hijacking this thread but....
I still use the HTC HD2 running WinMo 6.5. I don't want to own an apple product and I am a bit leary of the Win7 platform. Have not met an unhappy Android user and so I am leaning toward the HOX (ATT).
Though I tricked out my HD2 it has been a while and I am sure there is some learning curve to tricking out a new HOX. I've read about some drawbacks but some seasoned users seem to play them down.
I use my phone primarily for business and my current homescreen gives me weather, msg icons (vm, txt, missed calls, email), a multi day agenda for my calendar, a number of favorite caller buttons, all of my most used programs. This set up allows me to work 90% of what I do right off the home screen without going to a 2nd level screen or 3rd level screen. I want to be sure I can do this with ICS
Also, I was looking at another droid forum and it seems to show that the dpi's could be easily adjusted and same with processor....maybe it was the HP tablet. Are these things people are doing with the HOX?

I'm also voting for the One X , it's by no means the perfect phone, but I got my gnex the day it came out on Verizon and also got my HOX the day it came out and the One X is a superior device in every way except for MT but that should be fixed with a software update.
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Droidz said:
I'm also voting for the One X , it's by no means the perfect phone, but I got my gnex the day it came out on Verizon and also got my HOX the day it came out and the One X is a superior device in every way except for MT but that should be fixed with a software update.
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You are also comparing the weaker Nexus to the superior One X.
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mrvirginia said:
lol my GNex was doing good if it got 4 down. on AT&T LTE here i get 20 down easy. just kills the GNex when it comes to network speed. this is also faster than Verizon's LTE network here in Charlotte.
but yeah, as others have said, better camera and better screen. then throw in a better SoC and i don't see why you'd want a GNex. the only thing i miss about my GNex is it felt better in my hand and i loved having the sleep/wake button on the side versus the top. i'm a leftly and having it placed there had me handling the phone more with my right hand just because it was so easy to turn on and not have to re-adjust my hand. always have to re-adjust with the HOX no matter which hand i'm using. if the bootloader ever gets unlocked and we have s-off, though, wake can be re-mapped to the volume rocker which would make this tiny complaint non-existent.
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Exactly what I wanted to say. Only thing I miss on gnex is the ergonomics. It felt much better holding it while in use. Other than that (well maybe vanilla ics, but will eventually happen with hox), I prefer hox. Hope this helps.
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SGIII? Sweet, but not... quite... enough to break up me & my Sky

Samsung, in certain areas such as display technology, and their Exnyos Quad Core Processors is unsurpassed. They are not "Perfect" but have as much of a claim to "Best Mobile Phone Available" as HTC does with the One X. Each have their strengths, but I see Samsung as a better device overall, a really close call, and a tough choice since I am, and have been an HTC fanbboy all the way back to HD2, a game changing device, as the first 4.3" large screen device in the US, and one of the 1st Gig Processor's (THE first in a Windows Phone. A device so awesome, I switched carriers to get it.
But yeah, Samsung should team up with an Audio brand like HTC did with Beats, and a get a bit more high end material into their designs (read aluminum, ceramic, etc.) would really sweeten what's obviously top gear gear, LOL! I now have to make a choice between the SGIII or the Galaxy Note, two amazing devices, OR... waiting on Galaxy Note II. Sigh, such a tough situ to be in, LOL. As long as I am daydreaming, can I wish that somehow Samsung (or ANY SOC manufacturer) licks the LTE on Quad Core incompatibility? I need to do more reading to understand why this is so, I mean that the current crop being incompatible with LTE is what it is, but the fact no one is touting a new, compatible quad core/LTE is what I need to understand better, but whatever the reason, it is seriously messing with my mobile nirvana. But for that, the SGSIII might be our next President; it sure would have capabilities beyond the current candidates, that much is obvious. Sigh.

I have an S3 right next to me and its blazing fast, display looks really nice and overall better to have it in person rather than just looking at pics. The audio on this thing is really loud when put on max and the display @720p watching videos is pretty nice as well.
What kinda sux is the box is "black" but the pebble blue model comes with white earbuds, slightly modified one than the skyrocket's, thought it would come with black ones , the white model actually looks nice too.

UZ7 said:
I have an S3 right next to me and its blazing fast, display looks really nice and overall better to have it in person rather than just looking at pics. The audio on this thing is really loud when put on max and the display @720p watching videos is pretty nice as well.
What kinda sux is the box is "black" but the pebble blue model comes with white earbuds, slightly modified one than the skyrocket's, thought it would come with black ones , the white model actually looks nice too.
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What kind of finish does it have? Glossy?
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What kind of finish does it have? Glossy?
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lol sorry for my bad pic skills, running on the new leak so didnt change the settings

I love my skyrocket as well. My upgrade wont happen until May of next year, so I will see what samsung has available at that time. Depending period on the release of the G Note 2 which is what I am leaning towards. Also waiting on the confirmation of the nexus models coming out later this year.

dxwilliams40 said:
I love my skyrocket as well. My upgrade wont happen until May of next year, so I will see what samsung has available at that time. Depending period on the release of the G Note 2 which is what I am leaning towards. Also waiting on the confirmation of the nexus models coming out later this year.
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Yeah theres really no big reason to get the S3 as the Skyrocket is still a fully capable phone +/- features that we probably won't use a lot yet and knowing Samsung they'll pump out new revisions by the end of the year. Also waiting on that new Nexus model, want to see whats new with Jellybean
My bro and his gf both got S3s last night as their upgrade contract ended, they were both iphone4 converts and they both really like the new phone, mainly because of how big the screen is and the quality of the phone overall, it doesnt feel as expensive as the iphones but they sure beat it in everything else

Might not be the best comparison pic but this is:
Skyrocket vs Iphone4 vs S3
No doubt the iphone will have the most neutral color (IPS). The blacks on S3 is pretty crazy. When we compared whites Skyrocket vs S3, the Skyrocket seemed to have a more "cool" temperature while the S3 was closer to neutral.
Wifi Analyzer, this is AOKP (Skyrocket) vs Stock ICS (S3) so not sure if there are any custom settings thats causing the lighter black.
Another comparison pic of the colors.
Again both are pretty good with colors in comparison but remember the S3 has a higher pixel density as well as a 720p display and... I don't really have a DSLR to get accurate shots so it can be a little bias, just a rough comparison. But you just have to see it in person if you want to see real comparison.

Samsung will have another flag ship phone by September.if we try and keep up we would go broke.within 4 months last year they released infuse galaxy s2 and then the skyrocket...thanks Samsung
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jaythaovadose said:
Samsung will have another flag ship phone by September.if we try and keep up we would go broke.within 4 months last year they released infuse galaxy s2 and then the skyrocket...thanks Samsung
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I hear Korea's S3 will have quad core + LTE + 2gb ram

jaythaovadose said:
Samsung will have another flag ship phone by September.if we try and keep up we would go broke.within 4 months last year they released infuse galaxy s2 and then the skyrocket...thanks Samsung
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lol, so true

True, but it's not like the consumers (us) are really complaining. Those of us that can afford it, change our phones like crazy. The frequent releases of new Android phones, and better technology in them, also converts more iPhone users
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Yes international versions have quad Att doesn't because if the lte chip.honestly I highly doubt that we would actually feel the difference because this skyrocket is super smooth and I'll trade two cores for the lte speed any day IMO
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I would trade LTE speeds for more ram
Most phone apps barely even use more than one thread yet alone 2, quad core would just be overkill. But I do like the S4 chip, its power efficient, fast and runs cool. :good:

Those of us less fortunate than others can't afford a new phone every few months so we have to wait until we can get 2 year upgrades enjoy you're 4.8 inch galaxy s2
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You have a point but that lte on the go is awesome but only if you live in a lte area.I'm in the SF bay area and I get lte everywhere
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Yeah, my area doesn't even have LTE so its kinda useless right now, some areas though have them but I'm also limited with the data plan as I was late in getting one so I have to pay new prices. My bro is paying the same as I am and he gets 2GB data while I get 300mb I'll try to see if they can change me to the old 2GB but paying this much for 300mb is a rip. Yes I'm still a poor college student and I will be eating ramen all this year :silly: . Some people are crazy enough to go with the International version (buy it) and get the $10 data plan (ATT might catch on to this).
And yeah there really isnt any big reason to upgrade as the Skyrocket is a fast phone. The more phones they dish out the better your next one will be :good: For example with computers I went from an i7 1st gen to an i5 2nd gen. 2nd gen run faster per clock, less heat, more power efficient and can OC higher.
3 different versions of the S3 on first release is just silly.
International: Quad Core + Non-LTE + 1GB RAM
US/Canada: Dual Core + LTE + 2GB RAM
Korea's special edition: Quad Core + LTE + 2GB RAM
But overall I prefer the S4 Snapdragon 28nm over the Exynos 32nm. The 2GB of ram helps a lot especially with multitasking and loading videos. Even with the stock ICS it loads about 1.1~gigs of the 1.6gb available which means the phone doesnt always have to stress on clearing the ram as fast as the 1GB versions.

Ya all of that lol
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UZ7 said:
Yeah, my area doesn't even have LTE so its kinda useless right now, some areas though have them but I'm also limited with the data plan as I was late in getting one so I have to pay new prices. My bro is paying the same as I am and he gets 2GB data while I get 300mb I'll try to see if they can change me to the old 2GB but paying this much for 300mb is a rip. Yes I'm still a poor college student and I will be eating ramen all this year :silly: . Some people are crazy enough to go with the International version (buy it) and get the $10 data plan (ATT might catch on to this).
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Since you don't have LTE, have you considered T-Mobile? If you're willing to wait and buy a phone outright after it's been out for awhile, you can usually find a good deal (or just get a G-Nex from the play store). From there, their value plans are pretty cheap... even better if you can get in on a family plan. Here in west LA, T-Mo's HSPA+ speeds are actually on par w/ AT&T's LTE.
I'm thinking of waiting for my ETF to get low enough, and then bail for T-Mo (unless ATT improves their speeds and coverage in LA and/or SF). Right now, my family plan is 500 min (total) anytime minutes and 2GB for $55/person. On T-Mo, 1000 min and 2GB = $35/person. That's a $480 saving over two years! The wildcard is how cheap you can get your phone for.

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Since you don't have LTE, have you considered T-Mobile? If you're willing to wait and buy a phone outright after it's been out for awhile, you can usually find a good deal (or just get a G-Nex from the play store). From there, their value plans are pretty cheap... even better if you can get in on a family plan. Here in west LA, T-Mo's HSPA+ speeds are actually on par w/ AT&T's LTE.
I'm thinking of waiting for my ETF to get low enough, and then bail for T-Mo (unless ATT improves their speeds and coverage in LA and/or SF). Right now, my family plan is 500 min (total) anytime minutes and 2GB for $55/person. On T-Mo, 1000 min and 2GB = $35/person. That's a $480 saving over two years! The wildcard is how cheap you can get your phone for.
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Yeah for where I live right now ATT has good signal but if I were to move then I would probably consider another carrier, when I was living in Gainesville, FL the signal for ATT wasnt that great so most people went for T-mobile, some areas have worse signal. All my cousins are on Sprint and whenever I call them with my cellphone/house phone it takes like 4-5 rings = 1 ring for them so most of the time I pick carriers based on the area After I graduate (in a year? ) I'll probably switch over to another carrier or if I decide to move to another state I'll consider it. :good:
For now I guess I'm okay with wifi since I'm around school/home/public wifi a lot I don't have to worry as much on the data usage. Still going to try to go to the ATT store to see if they can give me the 2GB plan that my bro pays for +$18 while I'm on the 300mb and I pay +$25 hope they'll be lenient since we've been customers since Cingular days.

I am mixed on the S3 honestly. I know that it is a better phone than my Skyrocket, but I am sure the Quad core phones will be out later this year. I keep telling myself to wait, but then again I do not game on my phone at all so will the quad core really make that big a difference? I can only imagine that there will be a lot of great ROMs for the GS3 as well. I have yet to play with a GS3 yet, so I am sure that will help my decision.

Why do I always keep going back to the iphone?

This is my 4th HTC One X.
The first one I had was overheating, I took it an ATT store for replacement.
I went back to my iPhone 4s.
The second one was flawless at first, then I saw some spots on the screen that looks like dead pixel. It was like the size of a quarter, but you only notice it over a white background. It was also rebooting randomly. I took it back to the store for a replacement.
I went back to my iPhone 4s.
The 3rd one, I woke up one day, and it would not power up anymore. I took it to the store for a replacement and they told me to call At&T warranty department. They shipped me a new one.
I went back to the iPhone 4s while waiting for it.
This phone has all the bells and whistles, but when it comes to reliability, nothing beats the iPhone.
I have had my iPhone 4s for over 2 years now, and I never had any issues with it, and I believe this is what makes the iPhone great.
I am jut saying...

checksum123 said:
This is my 4th HTC One X.
The first one I had was overheating, I took it an ATT store for replacement.
I went back to my iPhone 4s.
The second one was flawless at first, then I saw some spots on the screen that looks like dead pixel. It was like the size of a quarter, but you only notice it over a white background. It was also rebooting randomly. I took it back to the store for a replacement.
I went back to my iPhone 4s.
The 3rd one, I woke up one day, and it would not power up anymore. I took it to the store for a replacement and they told me to call At&T warranty department. They shipped me a new one.
I went back to the iPhone 4s while waiting for it.
This phone has all the bells and whistles, but when it comes to reliability, nothing beats the iPhone.
I have had my iPhone 4s for over 2 years now, and I never had any issues with it, and I believe this is what makes the iPhone great.
I am jut saying...
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You've just been hit with a string of bad luck, but android ain't for everyone

How have you had a 4s for over 2 years? They were announced less than a year ago? :-\
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How have you had a 4s for over 2 years? They were announced less than a year ago? :-\
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lol clearly his Iphone does his math as well.
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Seriously, what's the point of starting flame bait threads like this?
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Good for you OP. I personally can't go back to the tiny screen. Once I've tried LTE & bigger screen, I just couldn't go back.

Just bad luck. The only reason to go back for me would be one handed use which comes handy during long commute. But, other than that, this phone is just awesome. And, once you get used to high quality 4.7 inch screen, there is no going back to 3.5.
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The HOX screen gives the impression that whatever it displays is literally on top of the screen. When you look at an iPhone, the display feels sunk in. The raw texture if this screen feels so much better IMO. I've almost switched to the iPhone multiple times but Android has just always been for me. So much more freedom.

Meh, it's no longer worth comparing Android and iOS devices in terms of hardware, but I will say that the One X has some pretty significant build quality issues, presumably an issue of needing tighter manufacturer specification and narrower acceptable tolerances in all parts. The base design is basically sound besides the flexible casing that seems to have some issues with expansion/getting looser, but otherwise it is a solid device.
I just hope that HTC learns from their lessons this year and makes a phone that can easily last 4 years or so.

achllles said:
Good for you OP. I personally can't go back to the tiny screen. Once I've tried LTE & bigger screen, I just couldn't go back.
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Truth. I used to make fun of bigger-screened phones, but now I am totally sold.
I doubt I'd want much bigger than 4.7...
...and I might be able to live with a 4 or a 4.5, but I'd definitely have a lot of trouble going back to 3.5.
I still think something like the Note would be overkill for me, though.

I tried the iPhone for the first time a few days ago before I almost threw it across the room cause it lags. Going from a hox to something that slow with no customization is extremely hard
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lmao whats an iphone?
might as well go back to a paperweight. useless things.

And after being an iphone user since the first one. I'll never go back.

Silellak said:
Truth. I used to make fun of bigger-screened phones, but now I am totally sold.
I doubt I'd want much bigger than 4.7...
...and I might be able to live with a 4 or a 4.5, but I'd definitely have a lot of trouble going back to 3.5.
I still think something like the Note would be overkill for me, though.
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truth! I have a big set of mitts, but that note is too big. The hox is right in that sweet spot imo
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You can't be ignorant and say an iPhone ain't good, it is, just no Better then HOX, especially after you root, over clock, delete bloat ware, run custom ROM and kernel, than an iPhone has no shot at being faster than a HOX

ECEXCURSION said:
To save myself from getting flagged I'm not going to write what I originally wanted.
Seriously, what's the point of starting flame bait threads like this?
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How do you know that was his intention? The OP seems pretty legit to me. It sounds like he just wanted to share his story and see if anyone else had the same experience. Looks like you are guilty of attempting to cause a "flame bait thread" by bringing it up.
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checksum123 said:
This is my 4th HTC One X.
The first one I had was overheating, I took it an ATT store for replacement.
I went back to my iPhone 4s.
The second one was flawless at first, then I saw some spots on the screen that looks like dead pixel. It was like the size of a quarter, but you only notice it over a white background. It was also rebooting randomly. I took it back to the store for a replacement.
I went back to my iPhone 4s.
The 3rd one, I woke up one day, and it would not power up anymore. I took it to the store for a replacement and they told me to call At&T warranty department. They shipped me a new one.
I went back to the iPhone 4s while waiting for it.
This phone has all the bells and whistles, but when it comes to reliability, nothing beats the iPhone.
I have had my iPhone 4s for over 2 years now, and I never had any issues with it, and I believe this is what makes the iPhone great.
I am jut saying...
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As much as I dislike the Iphone due to its small screen and multitasking and Im also a big HTC fan, I totally understand how you feel. A smaller phone w more limited multitasking is still better than a phone that doesnt function properly. HTC'd better pull their sh** together if they dont want to lose any more customers. That being said, I still commend them for taking the risk and going w such a drastic change in design and manufacturing, unlike some Android company that keeps recycling the same designs over and over again.
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dalvarez0312 said:
lmao whats an iphone?
might as well go back to a paperweight. useless things.
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Stop exaggerating. The Iphone despite its short comings is still a very good phone. A paper weight doesnt even have a screen. If you cant see the differences between them how can you have the mental capacity to even use an Android phone.

SkizzMcNizz said:
How do you know that was his intention? The OP seems pretty legit to me. It sounds like he just wanted to share his story and see if anyone else had the same experience. Looks like you are guilty of attempting to cause a "flame bait thread" by bringing it up.
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You got my point, I wasn't trying to start anything, just sharing the experience I have had so far.
I mean, I love the HTC one X, that's why I bought it in the first place. I love the bigger screen, the nice looking HD screen, the level of customization, widgets, the beautiful camera, etc... as I said this phone have all the bells and whistles.
But it falls short in terms of reliability when compared to the iphone. As someone mentioned before:
I will say that the One X has some pretty significant build quality issues, presumably an issue of needing tighter manufacturer specification and narrower acceptable tolerances in all parts
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I totally agree with that.
I can guarantee that everyone in here has had some type of issue with their HTC one X, be it random reboot, freezing, overheating, WIFI disconnection, etc... and this is not only happening once, but enough to be noticeable and annoying. This is unacceptable, especially for something that costs over $600, and this is presumably the top of the line android phone. This phone is only a couple of months old, but if you google any of these issues, you will see a lot of discussions.
I can live with these issues for now, as long as the phone does not die on me, but in the future, I will think twice before buying one.
(NB: I have not rooted, or unlocked any of my HTC phones, everything was factory default)
Coming from an iPhone, I did set my expectation very high in terms of reliability.
BTW, I have owned an iphone 3, iphone 4 and iphone 4s, and I can tell you that I have never experienced any of the issues I listed above. I sold all of them except for the 4S that I keep as a backup.
I am a test engineer (QA) by the way, so I know a lot about build quality and testing a product (both harware and software) before releasing it to the public.
Months before releasing new iphone, Apple gives prototype to their engineer and regular people to test the phone in the real world and report back any issues.
I am pretty sure HTC engineers (ie:QA engineers) in some way or another were aware of at least some of these issues to some extend, but decided to release it anyway to the public.
Again, I love this phone, it is the best looking android phone I have had. I am just not very comfortable ( ?little bit scared? ) about the longevity, that's why I kept my iphone 4s as a backup phone just in case, otherwise I would have sold it a long time ago.
And remember, any new smartphone that comes out (android or windows) is going to be compared to the iphone. So if you want you product to stand out, study your competition and listen to your customers.

Your opinion on the S3

Hello all,
I currently have a HTC Thunderbolt on an unlimited data plan with Verizon. My phone is getting old, and is having a few problems. The screen has a few scratches on it, the battery life is poor, and I'm noticing that the speed isn't what I used to think it was. Consequently, I am thinking of purchasing a new phone and have given the Samsung Galaxy SIII some thought. I was wondering what you all thought about your phone and if there was anything you specifically disliked about it. I have been weighing my options, but have not made up my mind. Also, are there any other phones that you would suggest for me to investigate?
Thanks!

It's a good phone but I myself and my wife's phone suffer from poor signal reception and poor wifi signal. Not everyone experiences poor signal from what I've read on here and people I have talked to. Personally I'm about to leave Verizon or get another phone that's how bad the s3 signal reception is for me I can't speak for everyone else. If I can't make or receive phone calls or use my data, when where I had my HTC and Motorola devices i would have 2 to 3 bars more signal. I know a lot of people will come in and say that I'm full of crap but I'm just telling you my personal experience
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nothing but good things to say here. people complain about the reception, but i nor anyone else i know in person has these issues. ive the same or better service with the S3 versus my MOTO and brothers HTC phone.
does verizon still do 14 day test drives on phones? can see if it effects you or not.

I'm not sure if they do or not. I'm actually on my friend's plan (he added a line to his plan that I pay for) so that I could get the unlimited data option. So, I have to actually find out if I can "upgrade" or not. I was kind of planning on just buying the phone on ebay and then setting it up to use it on the account/network. Can I ask where you guys are located that you are or are not receiving signal?

GS3 on Verizon is a great phone. No signal or wireless radio issues for me. It's a little better than my previous Razr Maxx radio which surprised me.
It's still a beast phone though it's dual core. Don't get too caught up in how many cores the phone has. I've played with both the DNA & Note 2 and I saw tiny bit of lag. Wouldn't think I did with quad core processors and project butter Jelly Bean. I feel it's fluidity, speed, functionality is more about how the software is optimized with the hard ware that's running it.
If the Note 2 isn't too big for your liking, I'd get that but the S3 is still a boss. I think some people who have radio problems may be having defected hardware or something where they live is blocking or affecting the phone's signal.
I'm leaning more towards they received a GS3 with bad hardware, antenna, something of that nature. Samsung has been known to make crappy wireless radios on a couple phones like the Epic Touch (GS2) and I heard Galaxy Nexus had a bad one too.
I don't think the S3 has a bad one though? I good great service on mines. Maybe I live near good towers? But then again even when I go places and I'm not home I get good reception. But like I said maybe Samsung did produce some with poor or defected radios?
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Thank Me Later said:
I heard Galaxy Nexus had a bad one too.
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The Galaxy Nexus had a terrible 4G radio in the ones I owned, so I can attest to that. GS3 though has been great reception-wise, so it sounds like the reception issues others have seen is most likely hardware-related.
I have a GS3 for work and I really enjoy it. I'd say go for it.

Go with the GS3 dude! U won't regret it. I heard the DNA was locked down so I'd either go with the GS3 or Note 2. If you want something managable when in comes to phisical size, I have the GS3 with an otterbox commuter case and it fits nicely in my pocket and I can easily navigate with one hand, the Note 2 may be a bit more difficult
. The stock software is excellent although I highly reccomend unlocking and rooting. Its a kickass phone no doubt!
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Came from the g nex and the s3 is better in every aspect
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infinit22 said:
Came from the g nex and the s3 is better in every aspect
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Shibby87 said:
Go with the GS3 dude! U won't regret it. I heard the DNA was locked down so I'd either go with the GS3 or Note 2. If you want something managable when in comes to phisical size, I have the GS3 with an otterbox commuter case and it fits nicely in my pocket and I can easily navigate with one hand, the Note 2 may be a bit more difficult
. The stock software is excellent although I highly reccomend unlocking and rooting. Its a kickass phone no doubt!
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The note2 is also locked down...still much better choice than the DNA.

I personally would go with the DNA. I'm getting rid of my S3 for the DNA.
It has no SD slot and you can't remove the battery but I don't need those options.
The DNA is an amazing phone.
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I'm coming from a droid x & my GS3 is light years ahead of it!! No reception problems or anything bad to report at all. This baby only has a dual core processor but yet it smokes my Transformer Prime that had a quad processor! So yea cores mean nothing in most cases..found that out the hard way lol. As far as the DNA goes I hear the screen is nice but I also read on another site that the Samsung Galaxy 4 will supposedly be out Feb 2013.. Rocking a 13mp camera,1080p screen & a quad core processor. I was originally going for the note 2 but I'm absolutely loving the GS3...& I'm not even rooted yet lol.

I saw a DNA today at the verizon store. Not really impressed. S4 is going to blown it out the water.
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The only issue I have had with the S3 was it would take forever to refresh my widgets when I restarted the phone. After spending some quality time with a Verizon tech who was actually very knowledgeable and helpful, we figured out setting Power Saving to "off" solved the problem. I am now using Clean Rom 4.5 (soon to be 5.0) and I can set Power Saving to "on" without a problem if I want. Weird.
My daughter is having issues with her current phone on Verizon and spoke to a couple Verizon staff on what they would recommend for a reliable phone. They all said Galaxy S3 was their top recommendation. Since they knew they weren't selling her a phone (they told her she should go through support and get a new phone for free given her continuing issues) I think they were being very honest with her.

I'm gonna laugh so hard if the S4 has no SD slot and a non removable battery. I can see them going that route to make the phone thinner and more durable
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josh995 said:
I'm gonna laugh so hard if the S4 has no SD slot and a non removable battery. I can see them going that route to make the phone thinner and more durable
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And if they don't go that route?
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I came from the Galaxy Nexus and the only issue I had wiht that is battery life which was managable but don't expect to go more than 8-10 hours with it. Even still it was worth it to have a pure google phone. I got the SGS3 only because I got a killer deal on it off contract. So I'm rocking that now. If anything I would say go this way:
Galaxy Nexus (Cheap and Pure Google Experience with Roms)
Galaxy S3 (Great Battery Life all around great phone)
Galaxy Note 2 (If you don't mind the screen and want Quad Core)
Wait for Galaxy S 4 which should be out sometime next year if you can wait.
I haven't had poor reception with my GNex or my S3 so all is good there. Depending on how much money you have either of the above will be great phones.

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And if they don't go that route?
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If they don't then I won't be upset
If they want to make the phone thinner, however, those 2 options are things that would help big time.
If they do get rid of the SD slot, they should be smart enough to offer high internal storage, but you know that Verizon will try and stop them.
Verizon is most likely the reason the DNA doesn't have an SD slot, they want people to use more data to stream and download
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Honestly this will probably be my last Samsung product.
The amount of bugs on this phone is inexcusable. On stock ICS TW:
- Can't use aux input with Bluetooth calls. This means if I was listening to music in my car through aux input and I got a Bluetooth call, I'd have to yank out the audio cord in order to hear the caller. Seriously, what the hell. I had this functionality working perfectly on a two year old phone.
- Google Music oddities. Sometimes when changing tracks the music stops playing. Turning on the screen resumes playing though. On the JB leaks this bug manifests in an even worse way and I have my doubts that it will be fixed for OTA.
And this isn't really a bug, but there's no way to disable the volume reduction upon plugging in an aux cable and that makes me sad.
So the answer lies in AOSP... thank god for our African Canadian sock monkey friend for leaking our unlocked bootloader... only...
- IMEI loss. Seriously Samsung? This is a huge oversight and is NOT the first time a bug like this has escaped their QA testing. Samsung products have been riddled with stories of bricks and poor code management across many of their devices, as one CM dev recently talked about.
- Real Time clock is oh-so-wrong. We're making CWM backups in the 70s! This one isn't too bad but its still annoying. Again, Samsung is to blame here.
- CM10 still early in development. I don't really know whose fault this is, whether it be Samsung for making things hard for CM devs to get things working on AOSP or a lack of attention for our device. Despite having a "stable" release, CM10 still has a number of known issues that I won't go over here. I still use CM10 and am eternally grateful to the person who pours their free time into giving our device AOSP (I love you, whoever you are) because those aforementioned issues are better than the alternative. It's still a situation where no matter which way I turn I have a buggy phone.
On my O.G. Incredible the only choice I had to deal with was having TV-Out and 720p video recording support or having ps3/Wii controller Bluetooth support. No matter which ROM I chose (AOSP or Stock) everything WORKED. With this phone I have to weigh the evils of each path and simply choose the lesser one.
I'm not really impressed with the DNA either. They do have an unlock (a very brick-prone one at that) but the hardware itself is riddled with issues (No SD card or removable battery, power button hard to press and is on the top of the very long device).
I'll probably get a lot of flak for this post, but its just my opinion. Aside from what I mentioned, I do enjoy the GS3. I just feel I could do much better
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Everyone has their needs. This phone doesn't fit yours. Good luck with whatever you choose in the future!
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Sales

I was just curious if anyone knew or has a link that would show how the relay has sold (units) worldwide? Especially versus other phones. I ask this because my hunch is that initially sales were slow for this phone, but I'm willing to bet sales have doubled or tripled since being offered to other countries.
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chuckiev79 said:
I was just curious if anyone knew or has a link that would show how the relay has sold (units) worldwide? Especially versus other phones. I ask this because my hunch is that initially sales were slow for this phone, but I'm willing to bet sales have doubled or tripled since being offered to other countries.
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And I have goggled this to no avail. ?
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chuckiev79 said:
And I have goggled this to no avail. ?
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This is the kind of data you never get... Manufacturers are more interested in doing curved-screen phones that nobody wants than having a single qwerty model.
I'm in Europe, where there haven't been new qwerty models for 2-3 years now, and I get people asking my about my phone all the time. There is a market, manufacturers just don't care...

rad30n said:
This is the kind of data you never get... Manufacturers are more interested in doing curved-screen phones that nobody wants than having a single qwerty model.
I'm in Europe, where there haven't been new qwerty models for 2-3 years now, and I get people asking my about my phone all the time. There is a market, manufacturers just don't care...
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This. A 100x this. I'm still rocking my Epic 4G for now, and I still get people asking me about my phone, what is it, where I got it from, etc. And I'm talking both here in the US and in Mexico. There is a market for it. I think the manufacturers, instead of listening to what consumers want, are trying to steer consumers in a certain direction. But if there was a keyboard version of the Galaxy S4 or Note 3 (and not some crappy bluetooth addon), I'd figure out a way to buy it asap, and so would a lot of other people.
But to answer the thread, that's a good question and something I've been wondering myself. This seems like a great mid-range phone.

I just got mine for $160 new on ebay, so I'm guessing the demand for the phone wasn't as big as they were hoping (it came in a sketchy opened Samsung box with no manual so it may actually be a refurb but still I'd say it should be selling for more than that since it's not that old). Kind of depressing because so far it seems like a really nice phone, aside from all the bloatware it comes with stock. Just really irritating how all the new phones coming out are pretty much all the same - thin touchscreen only phones with slightly varying sizes and specs.

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I just got mine for $160 new on ebay, so I'm guessing the demand for the phone wasn't as big as they were hoping (it came in a sketchy opened Samsung box with no manual so it may actually be a refurb but still I'd say it should be selling for more than that since it's not that old). Kind of depressing because so far it seems like a really nice phone, aside from all the bloatware it comes with stock. Just really irritating how all the new phones coming out are pretty much all the same - thin touchscreen only phones with slightly varying sizes and specs.
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Agreed.
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I'm in the market for a new phone and sadly I feel as though my QWERTY reign may come to an end. I've owned just about every gsm qwerty phone over the past 3 years and there's absolutely nothing to choose from anymore.
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gtmaster303 said:
I'm in the market for a new phone and sadly I feel as though my QWERTY reign may come to an end. I've owned just about every gsm qwerty phone over the past 3 years and there's absolutely nothing to choose from anymore.
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I feel your pain. I've come to the conclusion that the Relay 4G may be the last qwerty phone I ever get myself. The only thing that can be done now is to develop a decent bluetooth keyboard/case, similar to what is available for the Galaxy S4.
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QWERTY isn't completely dead yet... T-Mobile is now offering LG's F3Q. That being said, I'd love to see a true high-end QWERTY, but I'm not holding my breath.

I saw that, but its got almost the same specs as the relay, droid 4, and the photon q. ?
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Bobby Tables said:
QWERTY isn't completely dead yet... T-Mobile is now offering LG's F3Q.
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I'm not crazy about the color (blue? ), but otherwise that seems pretty cool. I'll keep my eye on it. Looks like it will come out tomorrow.
That being said, I'd love to see a true high-end QWERTY, but I'm not holding my breath.
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I saw that, but its got almost the same specs as the relay, droid 4, and the photon q. ?
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Yeah I doubt we'll ever get a keyboard phone as powerful as an S4 or Note 3. That's why I think the answer is to make bluetooth keyboard peripherals. Though at least mid-range (i.e. affordable) keyboard phones aren't completely going away. I'm guessing the LG F3Q will be the new standard barer for [GSM] keyboard phones.

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I saw that, but its got almost the same specs as the relay, droid 4, and the photon q. ?
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It has a huge battery. specs look great. What most people don't realize is the specs have far exceeded our needs for some time now. So even a "basic" dual core is more than you'll ever need
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It has a huge battery. specs look great. What most people don't realize is the specs have far exceeded our needs for some time now. So even a "basic" dual core is more than you'll ever need
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I have the non-QWERTY F3, and the battery is amazing indeed. Even if I use the phone fairly heavily, it's rare for me to see the battery below 50% at the end of the day, and I often see it over 75%. It puts the lie to the whole "we can't put a big enough battery in it and make it replaceable" schtick that we keep getting from the likes of Motorola and Apple. I will not buy a phone with a non-replaceable battery.
The only real negative for the F3 is that it has very limited internal flash, but it does at least have a MicroSD slot. Some apps can be moved to the SD card, but others have the "Move to SD" button grayed out. My guess is that apps that (may) run services at startup can't be moved.

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It has a huge battery. specs look great. What most people don't realize is the specs have far exceeded our needs for some time now. So even a "basic" dual core is more than you'll ever need
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actually, the only thing i really dislike and would like to improve in relay is the terrible screen resolution. still, it was not enough to convince me to buy galaxy s4 with this keyboard
i wonder why samsung did not make a decent bluetooth/nfc keyboard for galaxy s4. many people would buy it and buy s4 - double profit at half cost
lg f3q - apart from the battery, specs are not really an improvement from samsung relay and the same terrible screen resolution. unimpressive

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lg f3q - apart from the battery, specs are not really an improvement from samsung relay and the same terrible screen resolution. unimpressive
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Actually there are improvements, just not as obvious ones.
The F3Q compared to the Relay has:
Bigger battery
Physically smaller size (even though screen is the same size)
Better graphics
Bluetooth 4.0
Better camera (supports 1080p)
Newer generation processor
Dual band wifi
And of course newer and shinier
These are all small differences alone, but they add up to a decent upgrade.
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gtmaster303 said:
Actually there are improvements, just not as obvious ones.
The F3Q compared to the Relay has:
Bigger battery
Physically smaller size (even though screen is the same size)
Better graphics
Bluetooth 4.0
Better camera (supports 1080p)
Newer generation processor
Dual band wifi
And of course newer and shinier
These are all small differences alone, but they add up to a decent upgrade.
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1080p is a big deal. I can't find anything about internal memory, though, but I would assume its at least the same as the Relay 4G.
Like I said, this may be the new standard barer for keyboard cell phones. Just wish it came in black.

gtmaster303 said:
Actually there are improvements, just not as obvious ones.
The F3Q compared to the Relay has:
Bigger battery
Physically smaller size (even though screen is the same size)
Better graphics
Bluetooth 4.0
Better camera (supports 1080p)
Newer generation processor
Dual band wifi
And of course newer and shinier
These are all small differences alone, but they add up to a decent upgrade
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cpu&gpu - i do not have enough data to directly compare msm8260a (relay) to msm8930 (f3g ? ). still, without bigger resolution the improvement may be difficult to notice. lower energy consumption maybe?
camera - i do not really care
bluetooth, wifi and battery are an improvement, but with the appalling 480x800 not enough to encourage me to upgrade.
improvement, yes, but still not impressive.

We're supporting Bluetooth 4.0 and upgraded wifi on CyanogenMod. The only thing that in my mind stands out about the F3Q is the better gpu, not for performance's sake (at 480x800 it's not gonna make much of a difference) but the fact that qcom is barely supporting the old gpu anymore (the drivers we're using on CyanogenMod are 9 months old, badly outdated)
The other thing is the F3Q is reputed to only have 1 gig of free internal storage (as opposed to 5 gigs on the Relay)

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We're supporting Bluetooth 4.0 and upgraded wifi on CyanogenMod. The only thing that in my mind stands out about the F3Q is the better gpu, not for performance's sake (at 480x800 it's not gonna make much of a difference) but the fact that qcom is barely supporting the old gpu anymore (the drivers we're using on CyanogenMod are 9 months old, badly outdated)
The other thing is the F3Q is reputed to only have 1 gig of free internal storage (as opposed to 5 gigs on the Relay)
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Ah ok. Yeah Internal Storage is a big deal, even with an SD Card. Thanks for putting things in perspective.

What happened to the F3Q launch?
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