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hi, i want to try blacktrack in my ds, i download the bt5 image file from official website, but it larger than 4gb, about 4.8gb, and fat32 doesn't support that, i mean i cann't copy a file larger than 4 gb on fat32, and when i format my sdcard to NTFS the phone cannot recognize it, which filesystem android can support except fat32?
thanks, and sorry if my eng is bad
You can use ext3 or 4 to hold files that large, however Windows dosnt natively support these formats you have to use Linux
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thanks, android recognize that like before? i mean can i use that as defult filesystem for sdcard?
and another question, how can format to ext4 directly from the phone? any app?
and another! can i make several partition and if i can,how can i use them?where can i find them? and i read somewhere that it can break the phone, is that dangerous?
Android does recognize this as standard yes.
You can format the sd card and make partions in 4ext recovery.
It wont damage your phone but could wear out the sd card after lots of use
i don't understod!! if it can recognize that how can i use my files on it?
u say that i can format sdcard to ext4 but it doesn't show in sdcard?it show like internal memory? and cannot use by app like gallery or music or camera?
i found a partition sdcard option in recovery, but it up to 4gb
can i do that with acronis partition?!
It should still see it as a sdcard. But im not 100% sure and dont have a sdcard spair to try.
If you cant format the sdcard in recovery you will need to do it in linux or find a program that can do it under windows
i formad sdcard with ext2 and3, doesn't work, is there anyway to mount sdcard which format ed with ntfs or ext as sdcard? it most be possible
i'm going to get angry,why android just support fat32 for sdcard? this is a huge problem
it is very ridiculous that i cant do this just because i cant have a 5 gb file in my phone, specially in 2011!!!
i'm sure that chinese phones (those which have not operating system and have analog tv tunner!!) can support NTFS!!!
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the developers in here cant answer me, u expect that i get my answer there?
i cant find my answer there, mybe that is impossible to use another filesystem, and in that position we must decrease image size, this is not a dump simple question, please understand
sorry,im in bad condition
Hi all,
Is it good to partition my SD card? What is positive and negative ?
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Hi all,
Is it good to partition my SD card? What is positive and negative ?
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meaning what? swap and ext4?
swap reduces your sd battery life, but it's said that it's not very noticeable, and it's needed with sense 3.5
ext4 just adds space for apps on sdcard as if they were on phone's rom
I mean swap, sorry.
What do you mean with reduce? And how can i swap my sdcard? Can you post me a thread please ? )
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This will tell you everything you need to know to get started.
Okey thanks
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I just partitioned my MicroSD card with MiniTool.
First Partition: FAT
Second Partition: Ext2
My laptop recognizes the card through card reader and I can see the two partitions in MiniTool, but my phone (HTC Explorer) does not recognize it. Any suggestions?
Well how are you checking if your phone sees it. Some roms can't use sd2ext. Take a good file explorer like root explorer ans see if there's a folder names sd-ext
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I just partitioned my MicroSD card with MiniTool.
First Partition: FAT
Second Partition: Ext2
My laptop recognizes the card through card reader and I can see the two partitions in MiniTool, but my phone (HTC Explorer) does not recognize it. Any suggestions?
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I simply use the phone's recovery (in my case 4EXT) , which will walk me thru everything, I didn't bother with a swap partition but rather a dataswap option (specific to my rom), and a 2GB sd-ext (Again supported by default on my rom). And used 4EXT to convert all my internal file systems to ext4 filetype instead of ext3 (again my rom supports it, but not all roms do).
Essentially you can partition SD and most everything else via ClockworkMod or 4EXT.
PS: Generally sd-ext should be the FIRST partition. (or second in the case of swap, sd-ext and fat32), since some Roms will not automatically recognize it if not placed in that order. thus another reason to do it via recovery.
Use the recovery on your phone to partition your SD card then plug your SD card into a Linux box and check to see if it's EXT4 using Gparted.
how to get sd-ext before fat32 in 4ext?
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I simply use the phone's recovery (in my case 4EXT) , which will walk me thru everything, I didn't bother with a swap partition but rather a dataswap option (specific to my rom), and a 2GB sd-ext (Again supported by default on my rom). And used 4EXT to convert all my internal file systems to ext4 filetype instead of ext3 (again my rom supports it, but not all roms do).
Essentially you can partition SD and most everything else via ClockworkMod or 4EXT.
PS: Generally sd-ext should be the FIRST partition. (or second in the case of swap, sd-ext and fat32), since some Roms will not automatically recognize it if not placed in that order. thus another reason to do it via recovery.
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I'm running mimicry-1.4.0, 4ext touch, same as you. When I ask it to partition my new, 16gig, class 10 card, it asks:
size of first sd-ext, to which I reply 2048
size of second sf-ext, to which I reply skip
size of swap, which I also skip,
and then it does the remainder as fat32.
BUT...the fat partition is at the beginning of the card...not the order the app asked for my input...and I don't see how to change them.
Maybe not being first is okay with mimicry?
thanks for your help,
p-d
ps all my file systems are ext4 on the phone itself.
prairie-dad said:
I'm running mimicry-1.4.0, 4ext touch, same as you. When I ask it to partition my new, 16gig, class 10 card, it asks:
size of first sd-ext, to which I reply 2048
size of second sf-ext, to which I reply skip
size of swap, which I also skip,
and then it does the remainder as fat32.
BUT...the fat partition is at the beginning of the card...not the order the app asked for my input...and I don't see how to change them.
Maybe not being first is okay with mimicry?
thanks for your help,
p-d
ps all my file systems are ext4 on the phone itself.
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you'll be just fine, this is normal
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you'll be just fine, this is normal
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Older s2e may need a specific partition order but both clockwork and 4ext arrange in this order, and the enabler script in my signature needs no apps and works fine with mimicry.
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Hi my wonder is "can i use ext4 format for my SanDisk 64GB sdxc class 10 ?"to make it as a storage memory for miusc , images and videos. Or should i use the ntfs or exfat or fat32.
With thanks
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deutsh said:
Hi my wonder is "can i use ext4 format for my SanDisk 64GB sdxc class 10 ?"to make it as a storage memory for miusc , images and videos. Or should i use the ntfs or exfat or fat32.
With thanks
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Hi,
Fat32 is universal partition for your music, ,video etc....
ext3 ext4 are used for android/unix/linux application storage...
be careful while partitioning you SD card...
read it before executing partiotion....
""forums.androidcentral.com/general-help-how/85809-tutorial-everything-you-wanted-know-about-app2sd-ext3-ext4-partitions.html[/url]"
-rkk
rkk253755 said:
Hi,
Fat32 is universal partition for your music, ,video etc....
ext3 ext4 are used for android/unix/linux application storage...
be careful while partitioning you SD card...
read it before executing partiotion....
""forums.androidcentral.com/general-help-how/85809-tutorial-everything-you-wanted-know-about-app2sd-ext3-ext4-partitions.html[/url]"
-rkk
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Thanks for replying.
I don't want to partition the memory card i just want to format it as the best storage file system .
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deutsh said:
Thanks for replying.
I don't want to partition the memory card i just want to format it as the best storage file system .
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hi,
ok then use FAT32 is good enough for you...
-rkk
But think about the max. filesize with FAT32 (4 Gigabyte). If you don't want to use so large files, I would prefer FAT32 in all cases.
Good... But the question is : the ext4 working as fat32 as storage for files
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I think the best way is to try it, but I have read somewhere that ext should go, depending upon the android-version.
Accesing files via USB (in the phone) shouldn't be the Problem, but accesing via cardreader directly on windows did not (or rather not without special ext-drivers for windows).
Well, I think ext3 is the best option if you are going to have media files which are bigger that 4GBytes...
well... The other question is :what is the best for non-damage of microsd ?
I mean the card will minimize the ability to get a damage. What the file system type is best.?
Whith thanks
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hmmm, file system organization cannot damage your card, it is only a logic 1 or 0 on the electronics cells.
Maybe there is a difference between frequency of read/write operation. The more the bigger chance to damage a card... of course after a long, looooong time. I would recommend using ext3 as it's more scalable and stable than FAT32.
FAT32: File Allocation Table, 32-bit
Introduced: August 1996 (Windows 95 OSR2)
Directory contents: Table
File allocation: Linked list
Bad blocks: Cluster tagging
Maximum number of files: 268,435,437
Maximum file size: 4GB
Filenames: 8.3 or 255 characters, ASCII except for "'*/:<>?\|
Attributes: Read-only, hidden, system. volume label, subdir, archive
Ext3: Third extended file system
Introduced: November 2001 (Linux 2.4.15)
Directory contents: Table, tree
File allocation: Bitmap, table
Bad blocks: Table
Maximum number of files: number of bytes in volume/2^13.
Maximum file size: 16GB (1KB block) to 2TB (4KB block)
Filenames: 255 bytes long, all bytes except \0 and /.
Attributes: no access time logging, append-only, synchronous write, no-dump, h-tree, immutable, journal, secure-delete, top, allow-undelete.
Journal: metadata and file contents
There is no "best" filesystem, they are all optimized, to some extent, for different things.
Without lots more info, fat32 is relatively efficient and has far and away the best compatibility. For most users the compatibility makes it the winner.
Hi... I try the ntfs but.... But its incompatible with android.... So sad
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NTFS is an windows-filesystem, and is only write- and readable on windows. Yes. linux can read it, but needs secial drivers for that and isn't realy fast. It is the worst filesystem for android or linux.
Use fat32 and ready!
Its fast, its compatible, and can be used in/ with most devices. The only disadvantage for you will be the filesize-maximum (4 GB).
SaschaBr said:
NTFS is an windows-filesystem, and is only write- and readable on windows. Yes. linux can read it, but needs secial drivers for that and isn't realy fast. It is the worst filesystem for android or linux.
Use fat32 and ready!
Its fast, its compatible, and can be used in/ with most devices. The only disadvantage for you will be the filesize-maximum (4 GB).
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O.K. I'll take your advice but I have a little question "how could I protect the micro sdcard from damage ? I suffered from a damge of micro sdcard several times.
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Until now I never had an damaged sd-card. And if it will happen, I have an backup of my important data. So I simply will buy a new one and play back this backup. Nothing is forever.
EDIT:
Ok, this 64 GB-SD-Cards are not realy cheap, but under normal conditions it won't faile for a long time, whatever filesystem you will use.
Thanks for everyone ....indeed
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rkk253755 said:
Hi,
Fat32 is universal partition for your music, ,video etc....
ext3 ext4 are used for android/unix/linux application storage...
be careful while partitioning you SD card...
read it before executing partiotion....
""forums.androidcentral.com/general-help-how/85809-tutorial-everything-you-wanted-know-about-app2sd-ext3-ext4-partitions.html[/url]"
-rkk
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hey buddy,
can u tell me i going to partition of memory card for music nd video i'll use FAT32 but second partition what should i do..ext3 or ext4 i ma using motorola g3 stock android is supported ext4 partition on android 5.1.1 or not cz plz tell me .
thanks in advance
shailesh406 said:
hey buddy,
can u tell me i going to partition of memory card for music nd video i'll use FAT32 but second partition what should i do..ext3 or ext4 i ma using motorola g3 stock android is supported ext4 partition on android 5.1.1 or not cz plz tell me .
thanks in advance
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Android supports Ext4 so I'd rather use Ext4 than Ext3
you can format it by Fat32
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Hi all,
I am wondering about the partitioning of my new external memory card manufactured by Samsung Electronics.
The very same manufacturer initially develop F2FS, the Flash Friendly File System for the Linux Kernel.
F2FS was expected to be the fastest F.S. for solid-state disks, eMMCs, and SD cards.
Initial tests confirmed it. Nevertheless posterior tests reveal that ext4 beats F2FS (...).
My guessing is that not enough research/test have been done in the matter.
Im going to set the following layout in order to test the speed for each partition:
1._ 34,7G EXT4 -> pictures, movies, backups, etc... AND/OR moved: APPs by hard/sym links; DATA by folder mount
2._ 65,0G FAT32 -> pictures, movies, backups, etc...
3._ 19,5G F2FS -> moved APPs by hard/sym links; moved DATA by folder mount
Depending on the results (specific for my phone and configuration) included in the reports from Antutu, A1SDBenmarch (possibly others too), I will most likely either:
1._ format whole microSD as F2FS -> roms,apps,data,pics,movies,etc; access using the phone (adb, usb, wifi)
2._ format whole microSD as EXT4 -> roms,apps,data,pics,movies,etc; access using any type of linux and many others
3._ format 32G as F2FS -> apps; format 64G as EXT4 -> roms,data,backups,movies; format 32G as FAT32 (any file smaller than 4G I want to be directly accessed from any device through any card reader using any OS)*
* I won't use fat32 as ext4 read/writes speeds are bit faster and i dont need to access the sd using any device
My goal is to format the external microSD card as F2FS and internal storage. F2FS is not only supposed to be better in performance but also it is supposed to expand it's lifespam
Note: Regarding partitioning the microSD in the computer, only linux will allow resizing F2FS filesystems; windows software doesnt recognize it yet, therefore it treats the partition as unformatted, neveertheless it's possible to move it.
Note2: there are programs that allow the user to mount linux partitions and read/write data on them.
Phone: Samsung Galaxy Note 3 SM-N9005, rooted, resurrection remix 5.6 (current,next5.8)
Card: Samsung EVO Plus 128Gb microSDXC UHS-I Class 10 U3 Card
ROM: Resurrection Remix v5.6 (Marshmallow)**
S.Soft: Apps2SDpro: Linked -hardlinks/symlinks- apps to F2FS partition on ext.SD. App data (TuneIn Radio recordings) moved -foldermount- to F2FS partition on ext.SD.
** I am currently designing the multiROM layout which will probably include the current ROM, plus Resurrection Remix v5.8 (Nougat) kali and some others
cheers
Hey guys,
I was hoping someone with some experience with Android M could help. After installing the OTA update and upgrading to Marshmallow, it seems that the OS makes you format microSD cards as either portable or internal storage. The issue that I'm running into is that after formatting the memory card as portable storage, the system formats it as Fat32 so I can no longer transfer large MKV files to play in Kodi. Prior to installing the 6.0 OTA, I had no issues transferring the files to my microSD card.
As a workaround, I tried using my USB OTG drive to play the videos but I can't get Kodi to recognize the drive as a source for my video files. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to get around these new memory card complications that Android 6.0 has introduced?
I would greatly appreciate some help on this as this was one of the main reasons I purchased this tablet so that I could use it as a temporary HTPC when I'm traveling. Thanks in advance!
Have you tried removing the SD CARD and formatting on a PC?
Seems that Marshmallow's not all it's cracked up to be.
Don't have marshmallow, but have you tried reformatting the SD card on your PC using exFat or NTFS instead?
I don't know if marshmallow will prompt you to reformat again when you put the card back in the Shield though...
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You didn't mention what size of card, but if it is larger than 32gigs you will need to put the sd card in a computer and format as NTFS. Android doesn't support exfat, only fat32 and NTFS. Try that and let us know what happens!
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You didn't mention what size of card, but if it is larger than 32gigs you will need to put the sd card in a computer and format as NTFS. Android doesn't support exfat, only fat32 and NTFS. Try that and let us know what happens!
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Funny...running a 64GB SDCard formatted exFat right now on my original ST8 (Lollipop)...and also a 16GB SDCard formatted exFat on my old Samsung S4 (also Lollipop).
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Try to restart tablet? The best is using es Explorer to transfer files. Fat32 do not accepted file over 4gb. Try format back exfat
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Funny...running a 64GB SDCard formatted exFat right now on my original ST8 (Lollipop)...and also a 16GB SDCard formatted exFat on my old Samsung S4 (also Lollipop).
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Oh, wow! Your personal experience with two different phones made by two different manufacturers running an old system that was never designed for what Marshmallow does obviously contradicts and demolishes what I said.
(/sarcasm)
ExFat support can be added to android kernels, if the manufacturer decides to do so. Samsung, a maker of sd cards ranging from 4gigs to 200+gigs, has an interest in making sure that their devices work with their cards that also work in a variety of consumer computers. ExFat support can also be added in customer kernels, should the maintainer decided to do so (in fact, many kernels that I see for modern devices that also support an external sd cards proudly show that they support ExFat).
Android AOSP, without any mods or other built in support, does not support ExFat well, if at all. It may or may not work. The fact that nVidia has written that any cards over 32gig must be formatted to NTFS tells me that they have not chosen to build in ExFat support into their devices. Should someone desire to flash a different rom or custom kernel that support ExFat, that is their business. But since the OP didn't list what size of card they used, or if they were using any mods or a different kernel, I had to go with the most basic support.
hbar98 said:
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Oh, wow! Your personal experience with two different phones made by two different manufacturers running an old system that was never designed for what Marshmallow does obviously contradicts and demolishes what I said.
(/sarcasm)
Android AOSP, without any mods or other built in support, does not support ExFat well, if at all. It may or may not work. The fact that nVidia has written that any cards over 32gig must be formatted to NTFS tells me that they have not chosen to build in ExFat support into their devices. Should someone desire to flash a different rom or custom kernel that support ExFat, that is their business. But since the OP didn't list what size of card they used, or if they were using any mods or a different kernel, I had to go with the most basic support.
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ST8 = Shield Tablet 8" (original vs. K1 model).
Point is, this goes against your open ended and incorrect "Android doesn't support exfat, only fat32 and NTFS" statement.
Supporting exFAT in Android makes sense as it's the recommended file system by the SDCard association for SDCards larger than 32GB.
NTFS is in the same boat - it's also not officially supported by all Android implementations.
Marshmallow formats SDCards to Ext4 (and encrypts) when configured as internal storage. When configured as portable both exFAT and NTFS (and Fat16/32) may all be an option - OP can try both if using the portable option.
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Similar problem with lg g2 on marshmallow
Hi,
Having a related problem with kodi on my phone.
On lollipop, kodi found my 16gb Fat32 otg USB drive as a source, but won't show up now I'm on marshmallow. I can still play video through mx player, fx explorer media viewer, and os video player. I searched around storage and mount folders, but can find no access to the external drive browsing the file system unless I'm using the native file browser.
Marshmallow detects partition very different with Lollipop. on Marshmallow your device can use sdcard with 128 GB like internal
its mean sdcard needed change partition format to another type (not FAT, NTFS or exFAT) the matter here then you plug that sdcard to windows, windows wont detect your sdcard but you can see it through another program like MiniTool Partition Wizard.
The problem with marshmallow and this partition used to drop out connect with your sdcard. only one way to fix it reboot your device. also, sometime they cant turn wifi on then you just needed to reboot again to let your device working normally.
We needed to wait for a new patch.
Considering Android is based on Linux, albeit with an ancient kernel, does it support XFS file system? I'm guessing it formats the microSD card as any of the extended file systems (2, 3 or 4) but if it does support XFS, I'd prefer to format it as that FS.
Xfs on android (ported for sdcard)
Update: I've attached clockworkmod with support for xfs(or any other file system the kernel supports) all i did is put my kernel and modify /etc/recovery.fstab ). just untar it ,go to bootloader menu and do fastboot flash recovery...
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I saw that topic but it's 10 years old. I was hoping for more recent answers.
Why ? For what purpose exactly ? If you want better performance use an A2 microsd card. If you want a better filesystem try exfat , the xfs you can try to format it on Linux and see if the Android will work with it, however I don't recommend that, could introduce risk.
Check out ssdfs if you are into dev stuff however without GPT-5 I can't foresee much interesting happening in filesystems and storage handling due to complexity.
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Why ? For what purpose exactly ? If you want better performance use an A2 microsd card. If you want a better filesystem try exfat , the xfs you can try to format it on Linux and see if the Android will work with it, however I don't recommend that, could introduce risk.
Check out ssdfs if you are into dev stuff however without GPT-5 I can't foresee much interesting happening in filesystems and storage handling due to complexity.
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For faster uploading of files. Ever since I formatted my storages to XFS they move/copy files between each other with the maximum speed their manufacturer says they can do. When they were ext4, copying 50 GB from one device to another was like on Windows - start fast then drop to a ridiculously slow speed, like 20 MB/sec, for instance. And I'm getting the same slow performance RN with the microSD card formatted by Android 12. I wanna upload 400 GB to the SD card but with the current file system I'll never have the 150 MB/sec the card's manufacturer says it can reach for writing. Which means I'll be uploading these 400 GB a whole year. I barely managed to upload my music which is 85 GB and it took me 3 hours to do that.
IDK how to format the microSD card on Linux. I don't even know if that's possible, bc GParted doesn't detect the phone as a device at all - even when it's mounted.
Ah here we are again trying to overcome corporations limitations they imposed on us by their retardation.
Well well well. Whos decision was it to Not use XFS in the first place? Give me a name... Someone from Google who was responsible for Android? Someone from the Phone Device manufacturer? The sd association for not informing developers about a correct filesystem? The makers of ext4 probably sponsored by Redhat ?
They are all GUILTY if you ask me. GUILTY !!!
They should give us our money back for all their crappy products !!!
We should start a class action law suit against all of them, for all of their bull**** limitations, separately for their retardation, and separately for their LIES in their advertising.
How do you know XFS is faster if you can not format the sdcard on Linux?
To format a sdcard on Linux - you connect Only the sdcard. After it's formatted - insert the sdcard in the phone and see if the phone can work with it, or not.
1.)SD cards are usually formatted with exfat.
2.)You will have to build your own kernel with explicit XFS support to enable XFS support.
Now I don't remember, but you can multipartition SD card
Keep the first partition as exfat, the second partition as XFS or ext4 or btrfs.
and loop mount it in a directory.
It's a convoluted process and not sure if it is worth the hassle.