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Is Touch Flo3D silly junk?

I disabled touch flo 3d right away because it seems like pointless eye candy. It seems like a sloppy rough integration that is a greater impedance than an assistant. Or is it just me

Have you modified it with the tweaks to enhance the performance? All it is is really just another shell, your preference there.

its the first thing i disabled. in my opinion its pretty darn ugly...except for the weather thing, its kind of cute. but i like having all my stuff on the home screen where i can see it all at once

As you can see, you are clearly outvoted. They had the same poll over at ppcgeeks (How many are still using TouchFlo3D) and of the 320 people who participated,80% were still using it.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?p=482651
TF3D brings an essential level of style to Windows Mobile.
Surur

Style, schmile!
If I wanted style I'd have the Jesus phone that Apple makes - with one of the great cases from Vaja.
Instead, I want to look at my screen and gain information. On my day, on the stock market, on the weather and on the number of messages I am currently blowing off.
I too liked the weather bit. I also appreciated that TF3D goes a good job at memory management. Maybe when I get the time to learn how to customize it, I'll return to TF3D.
For now, though it is back to WinMob running Pocket Breeze in full screen mode with panels for pA and Pocket Weather.

I really like it. It gives me access to what I need to see when I glance at the screen (except tasks) and finger-touch access to programs.
It does screw up maybe once a day though requiring a soft reset. I applied the mods recommended and they made my TP freeze a lot so I changed them back to default.

It's actually a great enhancement to WM. almost everything that needs to be readily accessible is "touchable" no need to get irritated and use the tip of my nail to make sure I press it just right. Even the corner X close button works almost flawlessly because the screen touch area is now flush.
I know there has been some whining but this really is the best match, easy touch interface for the simple phone stuff, and the ability to use a keyboard and a stylus for things that just aren't feasable to use efficiently with a finger on a touch screen.
I'm a very happy camper with the Fuze... well except for that ****ing GPS crap.
I'd also like to add that I think most of us really created and adapted ways to be able to not use the touchscreen for a lot of things, and with good reason considering how much I hate using a stylus to navigate a UI. So I think a ton of us bring a certain baggage about using our fingers because it just really did always suck that bad. Which thanks to HTC it really doesn't now. Plus this screen may not be like the capacitive Iphone but man it's definitely a lot smoother, the word "silky" comes to mind with how it feels compared to my Tytn.

I'm not sure which one of the 2 voting options is meant to be good

Some people are just afraid of change. As there still millions of windows 98 users out there. LMAO, people need to move with the times

Touchflo3d is indeed the most beautiful interface I've ever seen. It remained for about one month on my mobile phone. After that I still installed pocket plus (the program who puts icons dirrectly on screen and used only one tab in which I put all my programs).
Reason 1: functionality. It takes several moves in TF3D to do simple tasks. For example if I am in the home screen I cannot start with a single click an app. I have to scroll (and be quite carrefull to go in the desired position) and after that start a program etc. Imagine if in Windows you would be forced to use start, programs every time if you wanted to use an program...it'll kill you. That's why we activate programs by clicking the icon on the screen after all...it's the fastest way. All in all, to be clear, if it would be a contest between a TF3D and a Pocket Plus-type of program, everytime the pocket plus device will "click" the application faster, while in TF3D depends on where TAB are you..
Reason 2: familiarity with Windows way of activating programs. As I said before it's more simple for me to simply activate the icon on screen and not bother with some paradigm of displaying emails or SMS (and related to that, do you want to be able that someone can take a look at your info by simply scrolling to that tab? I don't)
Reason 3 -not quite a reason, but a proof that this a better interface in my opinion: the simple-icon-on-display type of interface is actually validated by the Iphone which we all know as a beautiful device at least.

I like Touchflo3d, but I missed my usual today screen setup.
The easy answer is to use secondtoday, that way I get the best of both worlds, one tap on the screen switches between them.

Gigs said:
Touchflo3d is indeed the most beautiful interface I've ever seen. It remained for about one month on my mobile phone. After that I still installed pocket plus (the program who puts icons dirrectly on screen and used only one tab in which I put all my programs).
Reason 1: functionality. It takes several moves in TF3D to do simple tasks. For example if I am in the home screen I cannot start with a single click an app. I have to scroll (and be quite carrefull to go in the desired position) and after that start a program etc. Imagine if in Windows you would be forced to use start, programs every time if you wanted to use an program...it'll kill you. That's why we activate programs by clicking the icon on the screen after all...it's the fastest way. All in all, to be clear, if it would be a contest between a TF3D and a Pocket Plus-type of program, everytime the pocket plus device will "click" the application faster, while in TF3D depends on where TAB are you..
Reason 2: familiarity with Windows way of activating programs. As I said before it's more simple for me to simply activate the icon on screen and not bother with some paradigm of displaying emails or SMS (and related to that, do you want to be able that someone can take a look at your info by simply scrolling to that tab? I don't)
Reason 3 -not quite a reason, but a proof that this a better interface in my opinion: the simple-icon-on-display type of interface is actually validated by the Iphone which we all know as a beautiful device at least.
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Pocket Plus sound like exactly what I need!
nuke1 said:
I'm not sure which one of the 2 voting options is meant to be good
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Bunk = bad and handy gooey is handy GUI or handy Graphical User Interface
migsims said:
It's actually a great enhancement to WM. almost everything that needs to be readily accessible is "touchable" no need to get irritated and use the tip of my nail to make sure I press it just right. Even the corner X close button works almost flawlessly because the screen touch area is now flush.
I know there has been some whining but this really is the best match, easy touch interface for the simple phone stuff, and the ability to use a keyboard and a stylus for things that just aren't feasable to use efficiently with a finger on a touch screen.
I'm a very happy camper with the Fuze... well except for that ****ing GPS crap.
I'd also like to add that I think most of us really created and adapted ways to be able to not use the touchscreen for a lot of things, and with good reason considering how much I hate using a stylus to navigate a UI. So I think a ton of us bring a certain baggage about using our fingers because it just really did always suck that bad. Which thanks to HTC it really doesn't now. Plus this screen may not be like the capacitive Iphone but man it's definitely a lot smoother, the word "silky" comes to mind with how it feels compared to my Tytn.
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maybe thats why I'm having so much trouble with the touch screen. I tap something,,,, wait 5 seconds,,, tap again,,,, wait 6 seconds then give up and get out the stylus. Maybe I should re-enable touchflo to stop this problem
surur said:
As you can see, you are clearly outvoted. They had the same poll over at ppcgeeks (How many are still using TouchFlo3D) and of the 320 people who participated,80% were still using it.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?p=482651
TF3D brings an essential level of style to Windows Mobile.
Surur
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Thats interesting. Thanks for the link. Maybe I should give touchflo 3D a another shot.
chetmichaels said:
its the first thing i disabled. in my opinion its pretty darn ugly...except for the weather thing, its kind of cute. but i like having all my stuff on the home screen where i can see it all at once
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Me too. Thats why I copied and pasted the links that are in folders within the program folder back up to the program folder. I like having everything in 1 spot. I wish it was alphabetized though.
kareem9nba said:
Have you modified it with the tweaks to enhance the performance? All it is is really just another shell, your preference there.
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Performance wasn't really the issue for me. It just seemed like pointless eye candy.

James, you'll really find SPB Pocket Plus really nice. The thing with it is to remove all the tabs, as they really only generate useless clicks to navigate where your program is, and in final squeeze in one tab only the icons you need. I have 3x5 icons(with no text and large size enabled) and if I really think some of them I don't really need - like powerpoint and so on.To give an exameple this is what I consider usefull:Comunication Manager, Resco Explorer, HTC Album, Igo, Camera, Excel, Word, Coreplayer, sms, activesync,radio, opera, 1-calc (a very nice calculator) and notes. And supplimentary I have enabled the calendar and date plugins in today screen. This is a very nice setup - eficient - and if you set a non transparent background, very nice, kinda stylish look. Now, I have seen that you complained about precision of tapping - beware that in the margins and corners of display you'll have sometimes to get out the stylus. Give that pocket plus a try.It really made my days.

kareem9nba said:
Have you modified it with the tweaks to enhance the performance? All it is is really just another shell, your preference there.
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Care to share those kareem?

jamespaulritter said:
I disabled touch flo 3d right away because it seems like pointless eye candy. It seems like a sloppy rough integration that is a greater impedance than an assistant. Or is it just me
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Definitely NOT at all. We must be on different spectrum of the universe. I like TF3D a great deal, make navigating the phone intuitive and seamless. It is just you.
Without TF3D, my Sprint TP would just be any other run of the mill Win Mobile big screen phone. My 39 cents.

TF3D is totally kickass! I love it for everything. Althought I do wish they had the map intergration that they have in TF2D. I also want the stocks tab and am waiting for the hd manilla to be perfected . Other than that, the original htc theme, with q-style font, my personalized background, tweaks from diamond config, and stock fuze rom, it runs pretty darm fast. Only did a soft reset once and that waas because I was attempting to run a qvga application and it crashed.

Gigs said:
James, you'll really find SPB Pocket Plus really nice. The thing with it is to remove all the tabs, as they really only generate useless clicks to navigate where your program is, and in final squeeze in one tab only the icons you need. I have 3x5 icons(with no text and large size enabled) and if I really think some of them I don't really need - like powerpoint and so on.To give an exameple this is what I consider usefull:Comunication Manager, Resco Explorer, HTC Album, Igo, Camera, Excel, Word, Coreplayer, sms, activesync,radio, opera, 1-calc (a very nice calculator) and notes. And supplimentary I have enabled the calendar and date plugins in today screen. This is a very nice setup - eficient - and if you set a non transparent background, very nice, kinda stylish look. Now, I have seen that you complained about precision of tapping - beware that in the margins and corners of display you'll have sometimes to get out the stylus. Give that pocket plus a try.It really made my days.
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I agree. Let's not turn into a bunch of iPhone cattle. They stick to their phones like cult even when plagued with numerous problems.
Get SPB mobile. It blows TFTD out of the water.

dgduris said:
Style, schmile!
If I wanted style I'd have the Jesus phone that Apple makes - with one of the great cases from Vaja.
Instead, I want to look at my screen and gain information. On my day, on the stock market, on the weather and on the number of messages I am currently blowing off.
I too liked the weather bit. I also appreciated that TF3D goes a good job at memory management. Maybe when I get the time to learn how to customize it, I'll return to TF3D.
For now, though it is back to WinMob running Pocket Breeze in full screen mode with panels for pA and Pocket Weather.
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I didn't know the Lord makes phones
Back to the subject, it's all a personal preference. I think it's great, and makes the phone a lot more fun and a little easier to use, you don't, but nobody is right or wrong on this one.

ababrekar said:
Care to share those kareem?
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They are stickied in the Raphael subforum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=413562
BTW I have been using TFL3D since when I got my TP in August. SPB Shell seems outdated now but I have it installed anyway, accessible via Second Today

Why is there so much wasted space between icons/widgets on homescreens?

Is there anyway to make better use of the real estate available on the homescreens? The current setup with so much space between icons/widgest seems like a colossal waste of the real estate the higher res N1 screen offers.
IMO, it also detracts from the aesthetic appearance of the homescreens. Especially coming from an iPhone.
I'm hoping this is a legacy issue, due to previous phones having lower res screens and google wil fix this.

So you want them closer together so you can't see your desktop? It's not a "legacy problem", that's how it has always been. There may be a home replacement that will do what you want though.

I think a major effect that seperates the iPhone and android ui is android's spacious desktop. I may be misunderstanding you but it sounds like you're asking why the android desktop isn't more like iphone's cookie cutter application squares, which are somewhat claustrophobic in my humble and often stupid opinion. I personally like the desktop feel of android. Feels like I've got a computer in my pocket...

DMaverick50 said:
I think a major effect that seperates the iPhone and android ui is android's spacious desktop. I may be misunderstanding you but it sounds like you're asking why the android desktop isn't more like iphone's cookie cutter application squares, which are somewhat claustrophobic in my humble and often stupid opinion. I personally like the desktop feel of android. Feels like I've got a computer in my pocket...
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+1 Agreed.

Never run out of screen icon space again. Place 3 icons in the place of 1. Pay version has up to 16 icons in the place of 4!
Now with MyBackup support!
v2.2: Fast AppList, Preview mode, Redone Backup/Restore, Config all from main app!
Update your ratings to 5!
Contains: 1x1 (2x1 & 4x1 in pay version)
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http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-reeyees-moreiconsfreewidget-xjED.aspx

The space between icons is what expresses the live wallpaper & impresses me & others ...awesome looking!

DMaverick50 said:
I think a major effect that seperates the iPhone and android ui is android's spacious desktop. I may be misunderstanding you but it sounds like you're asking why the android desktop isn't more like iphone's cookie cutter application squares, which are somewhat claustrophobic in my humble and often stupid opinion. I personally like the desktop feel of android. Feels like I've got a computer in my pocket...
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+2 Agreed.

I think they could have a fifth row

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http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-reeyees-moreiconsfreewidget-xjED.aspx
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Awesome widget. Paid for it the second I found out about it.

djnutz said:
Awesome widget. Paid for it the second I found out about it.
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Been using it a while on one screen you can potentially have 60 apps or so!!!
Mwhahahahahha.........

Because if you add more rows, and then rotate the phone, you will not have enough room without rearranging your home screens.
4 rows in landscape dictates the 4 rows in portrait mode.

muncheese said:
Because if you add more rows, and then rotate the phone, you will not have enough room without rearranging your home screens.
4 rows in landscape dictates the 4 rows in portrait mode.
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But at the time of the phones launch and still, the home screens are portrait only unless you install the hacked mod.

Other android devices (droid/cliq/etc) support landscape views.
They're not doing seperate os's for seperate devices.

OrganizedFellow said:
moreiconsfreewwidget
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Thankyou for that, solves my problem for now

DMaverick50 said:
I think a major effect that seperates the iPhone and android ui is android's spacious desktop. I may be misunderstanding you but it sounds like you're asking why the android desktop isn't more like iphone's cookie cutter application squares, which are somewhat claustrophobic in my humble and often stupid opinion. I personally like the desktop feel of android. Feels like I've got a computer in my pocket...
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The aesthetic bit was just a secondary comment. I may well get used to liking the android layout as much, it may just be that i'm used to seeing the iPhone desgin/layout.
However, the bigger point for me was that I am unable to have anymore icons, despite the higher res screen. Which is particularly annoying when you can see all that space going to waste. It definately looks like another row would fit cofortably.
Only 5 home screens and limited folder functionality, make the problem worse for me.
Which brings me onto my second question, is there a simple app to skin folders and allow you arrange icons as you wish? If this were possible easily, I wouldn't need more homescreens. I don't want to use a new theme as I like the current one for now and would like to use it for a bit while I get used to the phone.

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http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-reeyees-moreiconsfreewidget-xjED.aspx
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Does the widget work with Bettercut? Am I able to customize the icons?

muncheese said:
Because if you add more rows, and then rotate the phone, you will not have enough room without rearranging your home screens.
4 rows in landscape dictates the 4 rows in portrait mode.
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Ok, so the height and number of rows is fixed so that they can be mapped without any manipulation to landscape mode. Which from rough measurement appears to be the case.
I guess the issue is not so much with icons/shortcuts which can be easily rearranged as they are 1 x 1 units. But moreso with widgets which may not be rearrangeable with a simple rotation. I.E. You couldn't fit five 4 x 4 widgets in landscape without altering the widgets dimensions.
Guess the simplest ways around it would be to prevent rotation if you select more then the standard 4 rows. Or enable scrolling of the home screen in Landscape.
Anyway, thanks for enlightening me.

5to1 said:
Which brings me onto my second question, is there a simple app to skin folders and allow you arrange icons as you wish? If this were possible easily, I wouldn't need more homescreens. I don't want to use a new theme as I like the current one for now and would like to use it for a bit while I get used to the phone.
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Try Apps Organizer.

so in another thread (which was closed and pointed here) similar to this, there was the following instructions
Edit /system/build.prop and change this line:
ro.sf.lcd_density=240
Try using 160 instead of 240. I don't think it allows you to fit more on the screen, but definitely changes the effective resolution.
which I used to increase the resolution of the system, it is BEAUTIFUL...but it doesnt map to well with the nexus tray, wondering is someone could point in me the right direction to get the tray to look better, maybe another value in build.prob that needs changing or....?

I would like to see a 5th row, is there an app for that ?

What are your favorite widgets?

Let me apologize in advance for this first post in this thread, I didn't want to create a bunch of separate threads for my opinion and experience with the G Tablet, and I didn't want a bunch of threads about my uses for the tablet and the apps I use. So instead, I'll first ask the original topic and then I'll give you some information about how I use the tablet and the widgets/apps/etc. that I use. Hopefully someone from Google will find this insightful, because I think my setup could be a great generic "spring board" for anyone who wanted to use this tablet for taking notes on images, and personalize it to their needs.
What are your favorite widgets?
Does anyone know of some widgets that do the following (screenshots are greatly appreciated as well!):
- I wouldn't mind a news reader that displayed more than just the first line of the news article and/or title. Currently I am using Express News, but it only does one line... it's better than the others I've tested, but it doesn't even automatically scroll the news. You have to tap left/right to make it change.
- Is there some weather widget that perhaps does 5 or 7 day forecasts ? I'm using Fancy Widgets right now, it says the temperature, the high and low, and the time. I dont really need the time, not a big deal since it already says it on the top right.
- I wouldn't mind a task management widget, a decent sized one would be nice.
Some other thoughts:
With the new G Tablet I got yesterday, I've quickly discovered the screen is quite HUGE (obviously). I have a Evo 4G, rooted since the day I got it, and I've got some favorite apps. But being a tablet, it has some different purposes that it works better at, than a phone.
For instance, as a bathroom reader, the tablet works great. The phone is kind of small, hard to read a lot at a time, constant scrolling, etc. The tablet also makes playing games like Slice It, a lot more fun.
I'm a web developer and manager of a small team, so sometimes it's nice to be able to take screenshots of a site we're working on and add arrows and notes to it - the best solution I've found that lets you load images and write on them and save it, is called "Pocket Sketchbook Pro" - and it switches to landscape mode automatically THANK GOD! Honestly, one of the main reasons I bought a tablet is because I wanted to be able to sketch things on a "near" paper sized display, and then immediately share it via Bluetooth to my computer or Email it or print it. My printer is a HP Officejet Pro 8500A Plus, my point in telling you that is because it has its own email address. If I email my printer, it will print the email & attachment I send it. Very useful when I'm out with a client and I want to print off my notes or mockups, etc. so that I have it waiting for me when I get back.
Forgot to mention that I'm using Toshiba Home Launcher, on my phone I use LauncherPro (paid version) and I love both. They've both got their benefits, Toshiba Launcher is just amazing on a tablet. Vegan 5.1 Beta.
One of my few complaints (other than many apps not switching to landscape mode..) is that when I'm holding the tablet in portrait mode, sometimes my screen will turn off. I guess the power button is receiving enough weight/pressure on it that it's going off. And then sometimes it will reboot on me when I go to wake it up! How annoying is that?! I know that I could just switch the tablet upside down.. but I should be able to hold it any way I want.
Oh, and the Rain-X idea was great. Definitely fewer finger prints and my fingers seem to glide across the screen now.
Also, Multi Picture Live Wallpaper is great.. I was getting tired of seeing the scrunched/weirdly resized wallpapers!
Lastly, Dolphin HD with a few addons = awesome. Web2PDF so I can email the PDF to my printer, Screen cropper which lets me save as an image so I can write notes on it with Pocket Sketchbook Pro, and the Blue Theme make it really awesome.

Weather Widget
Weather forecast widget is free, but the text is too crumped together and the 4x1 just doesn't look right.
Then I tried "weather widgets", but it kind of sucked.
Then I found out that Fancy Widget has a Pro version which does what I need for $1.99 - works great.
Task Widget
Taskos looked very promising, as it syncs with Google Tasks and offers a 4x4 widget on the home screen - something I was excited about. What killed my excitement was placing the widget on my home screen and finding out that - yeah it's 4x4 alright, with only 2x2 actually having any freaking content!! The rest of it was black! On the phone it looks correct, so this is definitely a tablet issue. That sucks hard.
So finally I found one that actually works, it's called Ultimate To-Do List, the licensed version is $5 and it syncs with ToodleDo which costs $14.95/yr and up (if you require subtasks like me).
I haven't done any digging yet on a good news widget. With almost 100 page views I'm surprised nobody has any widgets they recommend

Scrollable news widget and a home launcher that allows you to change the number of rows and columns on your screen. I have mine set to 10 columns and 7 rows and I can make my news widget as large as I want and it will fill the Widgets space
Oh and springpad is one of the best to do lists ever with a very nice expandable widget as well

kpowr82 said:
Scrollable news widget and a home launcher that allows you to change the number of rows and columns on your screen. I have mine set to 10 columns and 7 rows and I can make my news widget as large as I want and it will fill the Widgets space
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LauncherPro lets you set your own # col/row and you can drag widgets to resize them on the screen, but I like the Toshiba launcher more because of the nice scrollable application list and they way they cleaned it up and put it at the bottom even though it's landscape mode - I love it. I can live with the defined # of cols/rows and screens, thats not a big deal. I know I'm limiting myself to just the widgets that exist that can take advantage of the tablet's size, but there has to be SOMETHING out there by now, right?

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Oh and springpad is one of the best to do lists ever with a very nice expandable widget as well
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Hmm I will check that out, thanks

For weather related Widgets I recommend this app:
Palmary weather app. Tried to paste the appbrain link here but my GTab wont let me!

For the Artists

Here are some art applications that make use of the S-pen Pressure Sensitivity:
Sketchbook Pro
Infinite Painter
Papyrus Beta
FlipAClip
TVPaint Beta (external download)
Omnisketch
LayerPaint
Drawing Pad
Markers
Quill
Canvas Pro
Plouik
Una Paint (Graffiti)
LayerDraw
VoytPaint
DoodleDroid
Sketch 'Em (Samsung App Store)
CloverMemo (Not sure if S-Pen Capable)
Sketch Free (Not sure if S-Pen Capable)
There are more but I can't think of them at the moment. If you have any let me know and I will update the OP.

*****reserved for op*****

LayerPaint is awesome.
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cmunho said:
LayerPaint is awesome.
Sent from my Galaxy Note
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Great app! just added it to the OP.

markers is a good one also that seems to react to the S Pen pretty well..

Just Recived mine , and this is what i made, after i purchased sketchbook pro, btw with the new update, it looks unlike most reviews, that the pen is abit quicker. I might have a bad pen, due to the canvas not picking up the lightest pressure. But thats easily replaceable, everything else is great!:good:
It's a lil dumb drawing, but i wanted to try it out.

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markers is a good one also that seems to react to the S Pen pretty well..
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It does show that it has pressure sensitivity. Added to OP.

The TV Paint app looks really just like a port From the PC version. Which is really nice actually! The downside... if you aren't familiar with the software, you aren't going to have a good time..
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Yeah. It is very specific type of drawing program. For example (don't know if in this version) cutting something out makes a brush out of it immidiately.

Actually.. it isn't even meant for drawing stills I believe.. It's main target is animation. Seeing (as far as I looked) this being a full port, you can create reaallllyy awesome animation **** with this! Might give it a go

Oh wow... played around with the brushes... did a quick drawing for a nice screenie
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Great list youve got there. I would just add Quill, its a great one as well

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Oh wow... played around with the brushes... did a quick drawing for a nice screenie
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Office Ninja said:
Great list youve got there. I would just add Quill, its a great one as well
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Added. Thanks for the suggestion.

Hmmm... sorry about the previous image failing..
Edit: did a really quick and rough animation test with tv paint..
I'm not really familiar yet with tv paint, but wanted to take a quick look at the export features..
The software looks like a port with some touch control related improvements.. shortcuts are still available in their classic pc form, which might actually be great if you would use a bluetooth keyboard to operate this program. Considering my and co-students animating experience, it's almost a MUST to be able to easily use many shortcuts, which makes getting such keyboard (almost) a must-buy to fully utilize this programs potential on any tab and get the best experience with it.
There's the possibility to export to Quicktime MOV, AVI, MP4, PNG/JPG/other image sequences.. Unfortunately only container options with 3 possible bit-rate settings (namely: .2, 1 and 5 Mbps) and no real codec settings. (eg. MPEG-2, H.264, etc...) (Something I really miss!!!!! )
Framerate is ofcourse controlled by project settings, but they have the ability to export to various custom settings as can be seen in the screenshot.
Video test: http://youtu.be/neZDRf8bvv8
I might review this program thoroughly in this thread in the near near future when I have some more time on my hands...
And lastly;
TV Paint is one of THE drawing apps currently on the play store for serious content creators..... DISCUSS!
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(never mind, I thought maybe Windows version has more options but from what I remember it was EXACTLY the same)

Markers is awesome for simple sketching! the pressure detection is very good on the ink style brushes, too bad you can only pick from preselected colours. still, nice for making simple value sketches
others with pressure detection:
free:
canvas lite: (can paint quite nice sketch style paintings with the 2nd brush) kind of fun somehow. has long press = eyedropper function. in the pro version you can make your own brushes from 50px canvases, which works surprisingly well! it is very crashy though.
plouik: (stroke dies extremely quickly)
una paint: has pressure... i guess if you want to draw oekaki style stuff, sure
layerdraw: pressure makes the ENTIRE stroke fat uniformly. I have no idea what anyone would use this for
voytpaintfree: nice pressure! you can get very smooth strokes on it as long as you don't make very fast curves, but it's pretty limited (couldn't find an opacity setting). haven't tried the pro vers.
paid:
doodledroid: for 99 cents, it's okay. the pressure curve is pretty bad, width doesn't start at zero so you're limited to making somewhat chunky ink strokes. but you can make some painterly type sketches.
drawing pad: i regret this purchase, it's like a child's crayon. all of the tools.
stuff that is really useless or didn't work for me:
HTC Flyer Canvas and scribble
Paintbox for tablets (drawing a curve is so bad it draws a square when you try to draw a circle) pressure what pressure?
scribble: claimed to have pressure sens, didn't even get to draw anything before it crashed my note once, then crashed again after reboot. deleted!
crayondoodle: just don't bother.
other useful stuff:
overskreen - floating browser that uses your default 'internet' browser to make a popup window. resizes perfectly, great for popping up reference images over your painting app. there was a free popup browser app but I didn't think it worked very well in comparison.

fishgimp said:
Markers is awesome for simple sketching! the pressure detection is very good on the ink style brushes, too bad you can only pick from preselected colours. still, nice for making simple value sketches
others with pressure detection:
free:
canvas lite: (can paint quite nice sketch style paintings with the 2nd brush) kind of fun somehow. has long press = eyedropper function. in the pro version you can make your own brushes from 50px canvases, which works surprisingly well! it is very crashy though.
plouik: (stroke dies extremely quickly)
una paint: has pressure... i guess if you want to draw oekaki style stuff, sure
layerdraw: pressure makes the ENTIRE stroke fat uniformly. I have no idea what anyone would use this for
voytpaintfree: nice pressure! you can get very smooth strokes on it as long as you don't make very fast curves, but it's pretty limited (couldn't find an opacity setting). haven't tried the pro vers.
paid:
doodledroid: for 99 cents, it's okay. the pressure curve is pretty bad, width doesn't start at zero so you're limited to making somewhat chunky ink strokes. but you can make some painterly type sketches.
drawing pad: i regret this purchase, it's like a child's crayon. all of the tools.
stuff that is really useless or didn't work for me:
HTC Flyer Canvas and scribble
Paintbox for tablets (drawing a curve is so bad it draws a square when you try to draw a circle) pressure what pressure?
scribble: claimed to have pressure sens, didn't even get to draw anything before it crashed my note once, then crashed again after reboot. deleted!
crayondoodle: just don't bother.
other useful stuff:
overskreen - floating browser that uses your default 'internet' browser to make a popup window. resizes perfectly, great for popping up reference images over your painting app. there was a free popup browser app but I didn't think it worked very well in comparison.
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Updated the list. Here's a thanks for your time.

Jonphinguyen7 said:
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hey, no worries! Thanks for compiling the list, I'm hoping people will find something that works for them, buy it and support more development for android. The Note has so much potential... and I'm trying not to rely too much on the beta of TV paint, arg
It's a real shame most people's first experience will be with PS touch, because it really makes the Note look like crap.

fishgimp said:
hey, no worries! Thanks for compiling the list, I'm hoping people will find something that works for them, buy it and support more development for android. The Note has so much potential... and I'm trying not to rely too much on the beta of TV paint, arg
It's a real shame most people's first experience will be with PS touch, because it really makes the Note look like crap.
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Thats was my first experience and my gf's too. She said... well i don't know about this purchase.. so when it finally arrived home, i downloaded all the other apps, i wanted to try out, and well i felt in love . I had high hopes for PS touch but... nope lol.

Handrite - A different write experience with S pen

I really hate Snote because of it's slow interface. Lecture Notes and Papyrus are better choices and simulate much better real note taking experience. But I found this one as a better alternative than those, becuase you don't have to move around the screen (something quite unconfortable for me).
I know some of you already commented about this app but I think it deserves a post
I'll share a short vid to show you why I liked it so much: it resizes the text and lets you write more in the same page
PD: Sorry for my bad english!
Watch vid
I did it in horizontal mode but it works much better in vertical.

Hey, I don't know if you're aware, but Lecture Notes has a zoomed input mode that acts like that and perhaps offers a bit more ease in resizing with zooming in and out the area what you write is placed in. I wasn't at all aware until trying Handrite, then asking about it in the lecture notes thread. Maybe that's not what you're looking for, but I figured I'd mention it.