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ROM flashing and Titanium backup - found where I went wrong

This is my first post here so it'll probably be in the wrong spot and say something everyone already knows etc etc
I recently battled through an installation of the CM-6.1.3 ROM and when i restored apps using titanium backup/restore I kept getting force closes using the camera and even when trying to choose a ringtone.
The mistake i was making is that you can't just restore all apps with titanium. Your old versions of apps will over-write the CM-6.1.3 versions and cause issues. I had to go and restore only the minimum number of my user apps making sure i wasn't over-writing an app already built into the ROM.
If this is so basic as to not be worth sharing....sorry. But I imagine a lot of noobs like me with new ROM problems could trace it back to improper titanium use?

Some things to consider:
1. What was the last ROM you backed up your apps on.
2. Did you enable application moving in CyanogenMod Application settings.

cruzin_cruzing said:
Some things to consider:
1. What was the last ROM you backed up your apps on.
2. Did you enable application moving in CyanogenMod Application settings.
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1) the original SE 2.1 (xperia x10)
2) No

jeffne said:
1) the original SE 2.1 (xperia x10)
2) No
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You cannot backup your apps from Android 2.1 and restore them to Android 2.2 (CM 6.1.3), the data will not be compatible. And make sure you do enable Application Moving or else you may run out of space on your phone's internal storage.
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cruzin_cruzing said:
You cannot backup your apps from Android 2.1 and restore them to Android 2.2 (CM 6.1.3), the data will not be compatible. And make sure you do enable Application Moving or else you may run out of space on your phone's internal storage.
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really?.....the few i did restore do work

i was about to say the same.. most of the things i did were fine 2!
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do what i do when i am instaling a new rom... write in notepad everything u had installed then install rom and apps
my luck is that i don't use much app

I just restore my apps and their data with tb. Always works fine for me.
I dont restore any built in stuff at all, it only takes a few minutes to run through the settings.
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[APP] IF YOU FLASH YOUR PHONE REGULARLY CHECK THIS OUT, Zemna App List Back Up

Hey guys,
Im sure many of you know about the problems which can be caused backing up apps and restoring them to different android versions (problems with force close, reboots, general instability / compatibility).
I found this great free app which makes a list of all your apps you have installed into an XML on your sd card (so it wont get wiped when flashing your phone) and will allow you to open the XML and select an app and it will take you to the market place page for your selected app to download it again.
I find the market place 'my apps' will only remember my paid apps after changing roms and this is a much more reliable way and safer way to get your apps back, plus its just easier to have all your old apps in a list ready to download and not searching for ages right?!
I flash my phone quite regularly and with this app you can be sure you get the correct version of your apps not restoring one that's not compatible and cause problems.
Here's the App Brain link http://www.appbrain.com/app/zemna-applist-backup/net.zemna.android.applistbackup. I don't expect this to changes lives buts its a helpful tool, for free!
I'm not the dev for this app and take no credit for his / hers / their work! Feel free to hit 'THANKS' if this is useful to you.
Enjoy ;-)
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to be honest not much usefull,but still appreciated...!!

I found it good, each to their own opinions I guess. Just thought I'd share cos my market never shows my free apps after flashing and its just easier to use this than spend ages searching for the all again, there're just there in a list ready to download
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Many thanks,,
Very useful for me

gregbradley said:
Many thanks,,
Very useful for me
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Hit 'thanks' on the OP, glad to of helped ;-)
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The Gingerbread Man said:
Hit 'thanks' on the OP, glad to of helped ;-)
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Already done

easiest way is to copy /data/app to your sd card. then copy all the apks from there to your computer and put them into flashtool's "/custom/app" folder. then after flashing your new rom, click "customize" in flash tool. bam, all your apps are installed without having to wait for downloading.
biggest downfall is losing app's saved "data". ei highscores and settings.
you can back these up by copying the program's data folder from /data/data to your sd card. the data folder for the program will look like this:
come.rovio.angrybirds (angry birds)
inside the data folder you will find different data files, some will be settings, highscores, etc. it will be different for every program. once you reinstall the app. you can copy JUST the data files to replace settings, scores, etc. don't copy the entire folder or you will get FC's.

That makes sense although iv never tried it. In theroy you could use the flashtool to put all the apps back on the phone and then with titanium back up restore data only and it not cause problems?
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why not just use titanium backup? there's a free version. it needs root, but if you're flashing roms so often, you would already have root. you can back up everything, and batch restore everything. better than clicking 1 app at a time imo

tookieboy said:
why not just use titanium backup? there's a free version. it needs root, but if you're flashing roms so often, you would already have root. you can back up everything, and batch restore everything. better than clicking 1 app at a time imo
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I see where your coming from but backing up and restoring apps between different versions of android isn't really a good idea and there is different versions of apps for different android versions which is where the compatibility issues and stability problems come in.
The idea of this is it saves all your apps and you can download the right version for your particular configuration on your phone.
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tookieboy said:
why not just use titanium backup? there's a free version. it needs root, but if you're flashing roms so often, you would already have root. you can back up everything, and batch restore everything. better than clicking 1 app at a time imo
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i hate restoring with titanium. you have to confirm each individual reinstall.

There is a batch mode you know and just leave it to do its thing automaticly. Batch restore brings everything back, I only had to confirm once at the start of the process
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I use android injector from a windows based pc, very handy

The Gingerbread Man said:
There is a batch mode you know and just leave it to do its thing automaticly. Batch restore brings everything back, I only had to confirm once at the start of the process
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batch mode asks me every app

thanks for recommending this app, as it is really useful
i do not recommend tb/mybackup if you are switching between android versions as some apks might not be compatible
using this you can link to the market really easy and it ensures you having apps installing in the right way =)

boooo...
use Titanium Backup and be happy

XteNce said:
boooo...
use Titanium Backup and be happy
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You should read the OP again, TB isn't always the best choice. Especially between different roms and versions of android.
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I use TB and restore just the app, no data.
For games like AB there are back up apps available on the AM and I've not had any problems using this method!
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The Gingerbread Man said:
You should read the OP again, TB isn't always the best choice. Especially between different roms and versions of android.
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hmm, I have never had any problems while restoring apps + data using TB on any roms

XteNce said:
hmm, I have never had any problems while restoring apps + data using TB on any roms
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Your lucky then I guess. Really the idea of this is if your changing your android version though, ie; going from 2.1- 2.2 ,2.2 - 2.3 or down grading your android version. It helped me anyway....
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How to backup all your data

Some ROMS require you to wipe /data as well as /system. So how would i backup all my stuff so that I can simply restore all my stuff after the changes. Like lets say im running on weapon G2x right now but I want to change my ROM to PhoenixBlood, but i dont want to lose my GTA 3 saves (true story XD). Would be greatly appreciated. And pleas don't tell me just to wipe dalvik cache and /cache. Im going to be using G2X scrubber before the install. Thanks!
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Titanium Backup Pro lets you backup all apps along with their data. You can also backup system data too, but you might run into problems trying to restore Weapon's system data to PB. Basically I just use the default batch backups under "Schedules"
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Will the backup work with the free version?
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zoppp said:
Will the backup work with the free version?
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Yes, backups work w/ the free version. But i highly recommend buying the PRO/Donate version. In the PRO version, it features 0-click batch restores, so you won't have to click "install" for every app you restore. Plus, the developer puts a ton of work into this app, and once you buy the PRO version, its yours for life, no matter how many times it updates. Just a suggestion

zoppp said:
Will the backup work with the free version?
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It works great on the free version. Also you may want to then copy your TI backup to your PC. One time I formatted one too many things including my SD card. Lost everything, which really sucks if you play games.

Okay, thanks for the input, im going to buy the pro version
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Yeah titanium backup is the way to go. Run the batch action for user apps system apps wont do ya any good and can cause issues. I would make a Android backup also can't be to careful
Making bad decision's one at a time.

jcbofkc said:
It works great on the free version. Also you may want to then copy your TI backup to your PC. One time I formatted one too many things including my SD card. Lost everything, which really sucks if you play games.
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Done that more then 1nce, I learned the hard way to backup to external hdd as well lol
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And as clarification, does the g2x scrubber wipe my internal SD and my External SD?
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jcbofkc said:
It works great on the free version. Also you may want to then copy your TI backup to your PC. One time I formatted one too many things including my SD card. Lost everything, which really sucks if you play games.
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You can also backup to dropbox from within the app.
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doesnt cwm restore your entire system? I just restored mine from a recovery file cuz i softbricked my phone today and i am getting all the apps with proper setting from before.

hhwong said:
doesnt cwm restore your entire system? I just restored mine from a recovery file cuz i softbricked my phone today and i am getting all the apps with proper setting from before.
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Yes it does, but i want a different rom, CWM also restores the ROM
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Mr. Apocalypse said:
Yes, backups work w/ the free version. But i highly recommend buying the PRO/Donate version. In the PRO version, it features 0-click batch restores, so you won't have to click "install" for every app you restore. Plus, the developer puts a ton of work into this app, and once you buy the PRO version, its yours for life, no matter how many times it updates. Just a suggestion
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+1
As a recent convert to habitual rom flashing, the pro version of titanium and clockwork mod have been super useful. And I've always believed in rewarding people/companies that produce useful tools

duckjob said:
+1
As a recent convert to habitual rom flashing, the pro version of titanium and clockwork mod have been super useful. And I've always believed in rewarding people/companies that produce useful tools
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+1
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Great app wish I knew about it sooner lol, PRO version of titanium backup is great
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Stock ICS without bloat?

Just upgraded from the Infuse and HOLY CRAP what a difference. The Infuse, in some ways was really a misstep for Sammy. Hardware just didn't really work well. Anyway...
Looking through ROMs I was hoping to find a stock ICS where someone had pulled out the bloat. I didn't see it, but I may have missed it.
Thanks, and glad to have switched forums! Ha.
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Check out mohans embryo It is a stock based rom that is properly tweaked the way it should have been. Its up to 5.3.
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Tweakecho said:
Check out mohans embryo It is a stock based rom that is properly tweaked the way it should have been. Its up to 5.3.
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Agreed - it's a good ROM if you are looking for something close to stock with options. Only a few small issues of stability so far.

Root the stock ROM then debloat (disable apps first) yourself

would agree about embryo. stock, debloated.. unless you choose to add it. he built in a nice rom customizer as well. personally, didnt have any problems with it.

Sky Jellybean, come to the candy plus s3 touchwiz is way better than skyrocket touchwiz

danaholic86 said:
Sky Jellybean, come to the candy plus s3 touchwiz is way better than skyrocket touchwiz
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He wants stock ics, not jacked up jb.
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Bloat
Just root and install Titanium Backup. There should be a freeze list in one of the stickies. You do not have to install a different rom at all.
I recommend that you just freeze the apps. If you uninstall them, you will have to reflash your phone with the stock rom if you want to send to Sammy or take it back to AT&T...
You can also just make a complete TiBU of the entire phone and save on your computer then restore them when you want to get rid of the phone in a legit way...

onealvideo said:
Just root and install Titanium Backup. There should be a freeze list in one of the stickies. You do not have to install a different rom at all.
I recommend that you just freeze the apps. If you uninstall them, you will have to reflash your phone with the stock rom if you want to send to Sammy or take it back to AT&T...
You can also just make a complete TiBU of the entire phone and save on your computer then restore them when you want to get rid of the phone in a legit way...
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No need for a titanium backup or anything...I just disable an app (like yahoo finance or whatever crap) from all apps section in settings ..then I delete the .apk file from /system/app (and the .odex if the rom is not deodexed)..After any debloat you will have to flash the whole stock rom anyway if you get a big system problem (or restore a nandroid if you made a backup .. Which I hugely advice to do before messing with the phone)

[Q] Downgrade from CM10.1 nightlies

Hi All,
I have to go back to an older version of Android on my phone... so I'm thinking of choosing GB v/s ICS:
1) GB has an obvious advantage of GPS and if I'm not mistaken, battery
2) ICS has an aesthetic advantage, and it just 'feels' better than GB
Negative points about GB/ICS:
1) ICS ghost call problem (?) --> Cannot compromise on this anymore, and I'm not happy with using Nokia as my main phone anymore (tried for 2 weeks; I'm angry at Nokia now )
2) ICS GPS problem
3) GB Apps problem -> No Chrome, Nova, Apex etc (maybe some more)
What I need from the downgrade:
1) A supremely stable phone without random reboots
2) No ghost calls
3) Working GPS
4) Solid battery (like Stock GB offered when I first bought my phone 1.5 years ago)
5) Basically every functionality that AdAway and LBE Security Master offer right now
6) Apps like Cerberus and Avast! should work too
I know there are lots of threads weighing the pros and cons of every ROM, I'd like a crowd sourced reply as to which ROM I should choose.
Also, if possible, the steps (is it the normal ""(1) Clear cache/dalvik (2) Clear Data and flash ROM (3) Flash GApps (4) Clear cache/dalvik (5) Profit"" process?)
Any help will be very much appreciated from the bottom of my heart.
Thanks in advance! (Will 'thank' on replies too)

You are asking about Yes or NO.?
Then go to GB-> There would be no Ghost calls. No GPS problem. Battery power is great. NEOROM Would be the best. Why choose Chrome when you have Opera.?
try GB & Forget anything
OR
Just install GB using ODIN (Clean all data & caches first, Also take backup). Then just install fresh ICS ANGEEK ROM.
Choice is yours.

Disturbed™ said:
You are asking about Yes or NO.?
Then go to GB-> There would be no Ghost calls. No GPS problem. Battery power is great. NEOROM Would be the best. Why choose Chrome when you have Opera.?
try GB & Forget anything
OR
Just install GB using ODIN (Clean all data & caches first, Also take backup). Then just install fresh ICS ANGEEK ROM.
Choice is yours.
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Thanks Vikesh! I'll install Neo ROM v3
Which App do you recommend for back-up? I am thinking of buying Titanium Backup PRO
Does TiBu have a full Nandroid backup, or is that done by some other app?

kaustubhkul said:
Thanks Vikesh! I'll install Neo ROM v3
Which App do you recommend for back-up? I am thinking of buying Titanium Backup PRO
Does TiBu have a full Nandroid backup, or is that done by some other app?
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Why you buy.? What backup you want to restore?
Applications, Messages, contacts.?
Use Superbackup application for the same or flash V4 CWM & take backup. Then you can extract the Application from out of backup zip file. But I would recommend super backup.

Disturbed™ said:
Why you buy.? What backup you want to restore?
Applications, Messages, contacts.?
Use Superbackup application for the same or flash V4 CWM & take backup. Then you can extract the Application from out of backup zip file. But I would recommend super backup.
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No, I meant only the app Cerberus. I have it and I'd like to use it after installing the new ROM too.
SMS, contacts etc are all taken care of: SMS Backup+ and Google respectively.

kaustubhkul said:
No, I meant only the app Cerberus. I have it and I'd like to use it after installing the new ROM too.
SMS, contacts etc are all taken care of: SMS Backup+ and Google respectively.
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You can copy source of cerberus app from /data/app/ and keep backup in sdcard or you can download again from playstore. Since you have paid for that app, you can use it in any mobile in any rom.
as mentioned by vikesh, superbackup does take care of all things(apps,contacts,sms)..you dont even need SMS backup+..
kaustubhkul said:
Any help will be very much appreciated from the bottom of my heart.
Thanks in advance! (Will 'thank' on replies too)
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"Will thank on replies too"!!
Buddy, no offence but this should not be there..everyone here is kind and helpful, u dont need this to get responded..!

You can also try the backup tool using your pc or helium app (another excellent backup app)
Im using titanium free ever since I rooted and it works just fine as well..
In the end the choice is yours
(didn't reply for the thanks as well)
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Does cm10.1 still has the issue in which one does not receive calls??
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Bhavik Jain said:
Does cm10.1 still has the issue in which one does not receive calls??
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Am using cm for almost 2 weeks.. I don't have such issues...
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rohithksaj said:
Am using cm for almost 2 weeks.. I don't have such issues...
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On which nightly r u on
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Bhavik Jain said:
On which nightly r u on
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17th..
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