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So I wanted to know some people's opinions about what kind of phone I should look at for T-Mobile. I currently have a HTC Glacier, but I'm looking to upgrade. I would obviously want something that will handle ICS and have a healthy dev section on XDA. Everyone seems to be pushing the Samsung S II, but I'm frankly scared of Samsung and their quality.
Am I unfounded in this perception?
What do you think?
Don't be scared of Samsung, be scared of HTC, I read more people complaining about there HTC phone then any other brand.
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No problems with my GS2. But maybe you just need to wait, surely there will be new offerings this summer.
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No problems with my GS2. But maybe you just need to wait, surely there will be new offerings this summer.
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Yeah I agree, if you're going to upgrade and extend your contract, might as well wait to see what comes out during the summer.
Really HTC huh? I suppose it's one of those things that are hard to gauge and highly anecdotal. I love my HTC Glacier and it's been one hell of a phone, but with CM9 not being released directly for it and the new gen of dual core processors I kind of wanted to upgrade.
I will probably wait it out though like some of your have suggested. In the mean time I think I need to find a better ROM for my current one though.
Alot of people have different opioinns about phone brands, Some HTC models are great! and then some are ok...but none the less I would wait untill late spring or summer and see what new devices are coming out
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To make this simple, I've always wanted a nexus phone. I came from having an iPhone, where everything was uniform, same hardware, and consistent updates were expected. The only time you didn't get an update the day it came out was if your phone was at it's end of life update cycle. But this is the reason I've always wanted a nexus phone. There's something about having a pure google experience that can't be mucked around by manufacturers.
However I am at a dilemma. When the Galaxy Nexus was first announced I was immediately sold. I wanted that phone. Then the sad news came that AT&T was not getting a subsidized version. I could not afford to drop $500 (At the time, yes I know it has droppped) on a phone, especially one without LTE.
But now I have my HOXL and I do love it, I just wish this amazing hardware could actually be put to good use. Probably my number one issue is the fact that there is no google wallet, which I have been dying for. What's the point of AT&T not allowing it when the reason for it (ISIS) has not even been released? And the other huge problem I have is Android Updates, who knows how quickly this phone will get updated. Most phones don't even have ICS yet, and before someone claims to just use a ROM like AOKP or CM9, I would, gladly, but because the kernel is not released, those ROMS don't work with 100% functionality like I need.
This all being said,
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I want a Nexus phone. Probably wont trade for Galaxy Nexus because the hardware is already outdated, but maybe one of the 5 nexus' phones in November. Do you guys think someone will trade after the phone is 6 months old?
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To make this simple, I've always wanted a nexus phone. I came from having an iPhone, where everything was uniform, same hardware, and consistent updates were expected. The only time you didn't get an update the day it came out was if your phone was at it's end of life update cycle. But this is the reason I've always wanted a nexus phone. There's something about having a pure google experience that can't be mucked around by manufacturers.
However I am at a dilemma. When the Galaxy Nexus was first announced I was immediately sold. I wanted that phone. Then the sad news came that AT&T was not getting a subsidized version. I could not afford to drop $500 (At the time, yes I know it has droppped) on a phone, especially one without LTE.
But now I have my HOXL and I do love it, I just wish this amazing hardware could actually be put to good use. Probably my number one issue is the fact that there is no google wallet, which I have been dying for. What's the point of AT&T not allowing it when the reason for it (ISIS) has not even been released? And the other huge problem I have is Android Updates, who knows how quickly this phone will get updated. Most phones don't even have ICS yet, and before someone claims to just use a ROM like AOKP or CM9, I would, gladly, but because the kernel is not released, those ROMS don't work with 100% functionality like I need.
This all being said,
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I want a Nexus phone. Probably wont trade for Galaxy Nexus because the hardware is already outdated, but maybe one of the 5 nexus' phones in November. Do you guys think someone will trade after the phone is 6 months old?
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Android phones are hard to predict.
6 Months is half a product cycle of an iPhone.
The HTC One X(L) is a fantastic device. We don't even have Kernel Source yet and look at the development we've seen so far. Sit tight.
I think ISIS will be a huge fail and Google Wallet will be allowed eventually.
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To make this simple, I've always wanted a nexus phone. I came from having an iPhone, where everything was uniform, same hardware, and consistent updates were expected. The only time you didn't get an update the day it came out was if your phone was at it's end of life update cycle. But this is the reason I've always wanted a nexus phone. There's something about having a pure google experience that can't be mucked around by manufacturers.
However I am at a dilemma. When the Galaxy Nexus was first announced I was immediately sold. I wanted that phone. Then the sad news came that AT&T was not getting a subsidized version. I could not afford to drop $500 (At the time, yes I know it has droppped) on a phone, especially one without LTE.
But now I have my HOXL and I do love it, I just wish this amazing hardware could actually be put to good use. Probably my number one issue is the fact that there is no google wallet, which I have been dying for. What's the point of AT&T not allowing it when the reason for it (ISIS) has not even been released? And the other huge problem I have is Android Updates, who knows how quickly this phone will get updated. Most phones don't even have ICS yet, and before someone claims to just use a ROM like AOKP or CM9, I would, gladly, but because the kernel is not released, those ROMS don't work with 100% functionality like I need.
This all being said,
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I want a Nexus phone. Probably wont trade for Galaxy Nexus because the hardware is already outdated, but maybe one of the 5 nexus' phones in November. Do you guys think someone will trade after the phone is 6 months old?
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Probably not only because those phones will be unsubsidized, meaning that they will be dropping the money on those phones, going out of their way to buy one off-contract, rather than simply paying less for a subsidized one. I feel like whoever is going to buy those phones will actually really want them. If they wanted the One X, they would have dropped the money on that (and probably for a cheaper price)
And I agree with you that you never know when you will get an official update for Androids, however I honestly couldn't care less if our phone never gets an official update again, so long as we have the source code.... Once we have that we will ALWAYS be on the cutting edge of the Android platform...(and yes...it will be stable as well...like the previous poster said...our phone is only a month an a half old and we do not have the source yet...once we get that you will see much much much improvement.)
It does concern me that the fact that the SGSIII is now out and uniform amongst all US carriers AND they have the source....I just hope that some good devs still decide to get the One X
And HTC really ought to open their eyes to the fact that they are going to have to release the source eventually, and they are only shooting themselves in the foot by not releasing the source now, now that SGSIII is out WITH source...
People have mentioned all kinds of crazy trades, so anything is possible, I guess. But as mentioned in above responses, I wouldn't bet on a straight out one-for-one trade. Trading what is probably going to be a flagship phone, for a phone that is 5-6 months old is probably not going to be considered a fair trade by most people. You may have to sweeten the deal by throwing in something extra, or extra cash to make it a fair trade. Or sell the One X for whatever you can get for it, then buy the Nexus of your choice.
Yeah it bugs me too that Samsung has a better rep with developers than HTC does. Of course with past phones they had to. Imagine the Captivate with locked bootloader and no source (shudder)
I miss my Galaxy Nexus. I didn't think it'd take so long for us to get the kernel source code and that's holding back development. No CM9 = no care.
This is an awesome phone stock and with the mods and customizations it's a lot better, but I can't even get full contact pictures without a ton of pixelization and that's annoying. Can't undervolt or use any of the fantastic kernels that devs release, because they can't work on this damn phone. HTC are being assholes to their loyal devotees so it's pretty disappointing.
Awesome phone, but no where near the level of homebrew/hobby development because of HTC. I want to love this phone but when I see what the HTC One X guys have with their Tegra 3 chip I get so jelly
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I miss my Galaxy Nexus. I didn't think it'd take so long for us to get the kernel source code and that's holding back development. No CM9 = no care.
This is an awesome phone stock and with the mods and customizations it's a lot better, but I can't even get full contact pictures without a ton of pixelization and that's annoying. Can't undervolt or use any of the fantastic kernels that devs release, because they can't work on this damn phone. HTC are being assholes to their loyal devotees so it's pretty disappointing.
Awesome phone, but no where near the level of homebrew/hobby development because of HTC. I want to love this phone but when I see what the HTC One X guys have with their Tegra 3 chip I get so jelly
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At least our device isn't ridden with hardware defects (tegra3 one x)
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Galaxy Nexus just dropped to $350... don't know if I can resist...
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Galaxy Nexus just dropped to $350... don't know if I can resist...
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Funny, I left my GN to get the HOX because of the terrible radio. Although the software was great, I got really slow data speeds on the GN no matter what radio I flashed. My HOX gets fantastic speeds now.
Whether the radio is good or not is never one of the specs reviewers talk about but without a good radio, the phone is not much use. Do a few searches on Samsung radios and you will see that they have a poor reputation.
And as far as development is concerned, ask SG2 owners how long it took to get CM to work because of the weird blue tooth drivers Samsung used....
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I pre-ordered a Nexus 7 tablet to satisfy my craving for a pure android device.
Ordered my Nexus 7 as well. Probably going to sell my Prime, but we'll see.
As soon as source drops for this phone, it's going to be huge.
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Galaxy Nexus just dropped to $350... don't know if I can resist...
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I pulled the trigger. Bought the galaxy nexus. I have no plans to get rid of the one x even though it's buggy as hell so i'll probably end up getting straight talk on the nexus and use it as a toy. :laugh:
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I pulled the trigger. Bought the galaxy nexus. I have no plans to get rid of the one x even though it's buggy as hell so i'll probably end up getting straight talk on the nexus and use it as a toy. :laugh:
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wait a few more weeks and watch the "buggy" one x become godly and blow the nexus out of the water
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This is an awesome phone stock and with the mods and customizations it's a lot better, but I can't even get full contact pictures without a ton of pixelization and that's annoying. (
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Try using HD contact photos (app). Seems to work pretty well as long as you don't use the HD resolution feature in the advanced settings.
BTW that's a Google problem, not HTC problem.
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You guys are so rich, but the nexus is almost 7 months old.
Anyways the one x will jelly Bean
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expertzero1 said:
You guys are so rich, but the nexus is almost 7 months old.
Anyways the one x will jelly Bean
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Lol one x will jelly bean.
Im using jelly bean on my old deactivated nexus, and Im dying to have Google now on the one x. It blows all the voice assistants we currently have out of the water.
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wait a few more weeks and watch the "buggy" one x become godly and blow the nexus out of the water
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I can only dream of this happening. Stock nexus with inferior hardware is smoother than our one x. Sense uses way too much RAM.
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gunnyman said:
Yeah it bugs me too that Samsung has a better rep with developers than HTC does. Of course with past phones they had to. Imagine the Captivate with locked bootloader and no source (shudder)
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Samsung is a bigger company. They have leverage against carriers. HTC is desperate.
Another reason is, samsung is the biggest electronics manufacturing company in the world. This is why the nexus is able to sell at $350. There is no other company that can provide such cost efficiency. Only samsung has the infrastructure.
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Probably not only because those phones will be unsubsidized, meaning that they will be dropping the money on those phones, going out of their way to buy one off-contract, rather than simply paying less for a subsidized one. I feel like whoever is going to buy those phones will actually really want them. If they wanted the One X, they would have dropped the money on that (and probably for a cheaper price)
And I agree with you that you never know when you will get an official update for Androids, however I honestly couldn't care less if our phone never gets an official update again, so long as we have the source code.... Once we have that we will ALWAYS be on the cutting edge of the Android platform...(and yes...it will be stable as well...like the previous poster said...our phone is only a month an a half old and we do not have the source yet...once we get that you will see much much much improvement.)
It does concern me that the fact that the SGSIII is now out and uniform amongst all US carriers AND they have the source....I just hope that some good devs still decide to get the One X
And HTC really ought to open their eyes to the fact that they are going to have to release the source eventually, and they are only shooting themselves in the foot by not releasing the source now, now that SGSIII is out WITH source...
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I don't think we're gonna see anymore developers then what we currently have. They're gonna flock to the sgs3 and the nexus phones. Also, with another better One X supposedly rumored, why would they get this phone? We haven't reached the most roms well get but we've most likely seen which developers will work on them. This phone was doomed one the sgs3 and jelly bean came out. Source or no source.
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bongd said:
I miss my Galaxy Nexus. I didn't think it'd take so long for us to get the kernel source code and that's holding back development. No CM9 = no care.
This is an awesome phone stock and with the mods and customizations it's a lot better, but I can't even get full contact pictures without a ton of pixelization and that's annoying. Can't undervolt or use any of the fantastic kernels that devs release, because they can't work on this damn phone. HTC are being assholes to their loyal devotees so it's pretty disappointing.
Awesome phone, but no where near the level of homebrew/hobby development because of HTC. I want to love this phone but when I see what the HTC One X guys have with their Tegra 3 chip I get so jelly
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I'm thinking it's more of that crappy company AT&T. Isn't the source out already for the evo 4g lte?
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expertzero1 said:
At least our device isn't ridden with hardware defects (tegra3 one x)
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You're kidding right?
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Hi everyone I'm thinking of trading in my One S for a Galaxy S II due to more support from Samsung for updates etc and the fact it has sd card support any thoughts on this would be appreciated
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I wouldn't trade it for a Galaxy SII. And don't be misled by the amount of updates, you're still stuck with a different layer on top of vanilla Android. And, personally, I'd rather be caught walking around with the HTC One S. Except for the loose SIM-cover, it's a very robust yet elegant device, whereas the GSII is still mostly iPhone-esque plastic. But that's just my taste. If you're willing to trade purely for support (and perhaps compatibility and other Android experience related things), I'd get the Galaxy Nexus. (Still Samsung and I still have my complaints about the hardware design, but it's not bad and software is definitely on the front. You'd get Jelly Bean very quick (roll-out started already) too, and that's by far the most stable and smoothest Android experience you're going to get this year, until the next Nexus comes out.
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Hi everyone I'm thinking of trading in my One S for a Galaxy S II due to more support from Samsung for updates etc and the fact it has sd card support any thoughts on this would be appreciated
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You dont need to wait for updates from HTC just use custom roms all the goodness of a stock rom with all the bloat taken out and much better battery life, Samsung are the worst for updates they never fix the major issues, im never buying a samsung product again, they are cheap and badly made
DONT DO IT !!!
Why trade it in for something older and of a lesser spec ?
If anything you should upgrade it, or trade for something of equivalent specs, Head over to the XDA market place, Im sure you could find some good deal there !
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DONT DO IT !!!
Why trade it in for something older and of a lesser spec ?
If anything you should upgrade it, or trade for something of equivalent specs, Head over to the XDA market place, Im sure you could find some good deal there !
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He won't on XDA. Had a guy trying to convince me that my One S was only worth 250-300 dollars. He'll get a lot of offers for GSII.
Better off doping someone to trade on Craigslist for a GSIII or waiting.
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This is the first time i am writing a post against an innovation, first of all i would like to mention that i like HTC ONE X that i own since May 2012 from AT&T, so this is not a hate post its more of an really upset post. HTC according to its promises during launch of one series was supposed to provide constant updates and bug fix for a group of satisfied customers, but it started making them unhappy once again when they were not releasing issues related to Wifi and calls with One X. After the release of Samsung S3 and Iphone 5 the company forgot its promises and stepped back and again changed their primary focus from Android to Windows, releasing a few window phones in Oct 2012 after iphone. Then they made a very huge mistake by releasing the HTC ONE X+ last week, where the specs of the phone are amazing for US market, but forgot to think about the 4 milllion users currently using the HTC One X. Did HTC really think we would be happy with the new phone or sad as the phones we use now are outdated within 6 months and are being sold at $29.99 and has no value of carriying it, which we bought for $149.99 or for some $199.99. And now we will have to see other people using the HTC One X at the cost of us as we tried the phone trusting the brand to keep it exclusive.
Less Battery Life, Slower CPU, Less Space, previous andrioid OS @ a higher Price. Welcome to HTC family of testers. I will make sure any product i buy next is not from HTC or its affiliates. I will buy a Samsung or an Iphone for sure, confident about them not releasing a similar product within 6 months.
Thanks HTC for making me a tester, i will make sure i don't become again. Same for AT&T for releasing it in US. You just lost a cusomter for sure.
Name one company didn't do what HTC does. Let's face it, any Android phones can only have 3 to 6 months of shielf life.
I don't have any issues with WiFi or calling. I have no doubt you have a legitimate issue, but I also don't think its that widespread. HTC is a great phone company. I've stuck with them through 5 devices, since the old Windows Mobile days. The only beef I have with them, is their anti-development posture (despite their claims to the contrary) with the locked bootloaders, and their decision to cavort with AT&T to not allow a bootloader unlock for the One X. I'm willing to bet that future HTC devices on AT&T will be similarly locked down, and that if anything will prevent me from buying their devices in the future.
The One X is an amazing piece of hardware. Them offering an update to the device is logical business sense, and doesn't degrade the real value of my phone (how I use it every day). All Android devices drop in retail value. I don't resell my devices, so I can care less. The X+ is not even out yet. So the One X is still by far the best phone out there. The GS3 has a crappy cheap feel. The iPhone 5 has a dinky screen, and a funny candy bar shape, its a joke to me. The One X is the best there is.
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ChummyDays said:
Dude. Think about the life of the galaxy s2.. they are still updating it man!
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I think he was talking more about how long a phone stays the flagship, how fast the price drops, when it gets superceded by a new phone. HTC has a bit to be desired for updates, for sure. But all the Android manufacturers have a major hardware release every several months. GS3 is newer than the One X, and Samsung already has the Note 2 coming, and I think a smaller version of the GS3, as well.
htc could keep the bootloader how it is but allow htcdev for unlock on at&t, that would let use flash on all firmwares and still keep people from bricking their phones with tegra roms. i think that should be an acceptable compromise for the time being.
Care to tell us where to buy this magical One X+ thats supposedly for sale since last week? That would be great!
Also, its cell phones dude...
SGS2 - SGS2 Skyrocket - [email protected] Sky Rocket HD - Note 1 - SGS3 - Note 2
Razr - Razr Maxx - Atrix HD Razr M- Razr i - Razr HD Maxx
Insert 10 phones here - One X - One X+
I remember when I bought a SGS2 on AT&T and not even a damn 60 days later the LTE version was already out.
Its the name of the game. More and more people are jumping to the next phone just because its the latest and greatest. Why wouldn't a business capitalize on that?
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Dude. Think about the life of the galaxy s2.. they are still updating it man!
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Which ones: there are three different versions of GS2: Original GS2, GS2 LTE/Skyrocket and GS2 LTE with HD screen (Korean only). All released within 2 or 3 months of each other. Not to mention GS3 was released soon after that. As far as I know, other than ICS update, there is no other updates for AT&T versions.
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Which ones: there are three different versions of GS2: Original GS2, GS2 LTE/Skyrocket and GS2 LTE with HD screen (Korean only). All released within 2 or 3 months of each other. Not to mention GS3 was released soon after that. As far as I know, other than ICS update, there is no other updates for AT&T versions.
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I know the sprint GS2 is still getting updates, I just flashed a update to my mother phone last week. That is the only phone i know of that is getting updated at its age. well the Evo 4G OG too
Did they state the one x will stop getting updates all together when the + comes out?
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Did they state the one x will stop getting updates all together when the + comes out?
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I never seen that.
I'm not happy with the fact that the CEO of the company, Peter Chou said out his own mouth that an official bootloader unlock solution would be provided for every phone after late 2011. It's Oct now and this phone still does not have that. Because of that, this will more than likely be my first and last product I'll buy that's an HTC made product.
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I never seen that.
I'm not happy with the fact that the CEO of the company, Peter Chou said out his own mouth that an official bootloader unlock solution would be provided for every phone after late 2011. It's Oct now and this phone still does not have that. Because of that, this will more than likely be my first and last product I'll buy that's an HTC made product.
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He made an uneducated statement. Anyhow, all the mfr's are locking bl's now and relying on the carriers for approval to shipped unlocked devices. What brand will you go to?
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He made an uneducated statement. Anyhow, all the mfr's are locking bl's now and relying on the carriers for approval to shipped unlocked devices. What brand will you go to?
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One word: Nexus.
No wifi issues, No dropped calls here...
sure HTC falls behind a little on the update department but the HOX+ is not a mistake, the new flagship comes with JB which will be available a couple of weeks after the official release on the HOX and HOS, and every phone manufacturer releases an updated/better/newer version every 6 months or so.
About Samsung... 4 diferent types of S2 or something... maybe more on other carriers (who knows), Skyrocket couple of months after the release of the S2, then the Galaxy Note... Samsung made the same thing and considering the crazy amount of phones HTC released last year... this is an improvement... sort of xD
Hopefully JB will come out soon (if is not out alredy...havent look into it), and all your bugs will go away
BTW sorry about my English, doing my best!
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One word: Nexus.
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Really? All the nexus devices shipped with unlocked BL??
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beaups said:
Really? All the nexus devices shipped with unlocked BL??
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You're right they're not. Process of unlocking them isnt an issue though.
By HTC releasing a new, upgraded version of their flagship device during the same year, customers really feel like they have made a bad decision...
But....you could argue the one x plus is necessary, because the one x, one s, each sgs3 variant and countless others all are essentially the same device, with an s4 soc and at least a gig of ram.
the only variance is screen size, storage, and the materials used to build each device.
Nice to see a unique device on the market. Its not the same thing as every other phone out there.
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robstunner said:
Care to tell us where to buy this magical One X+ thats supposedly for sale since last week? That would be great!
Also, its cell phones dude...
SGS2 - SGS2 Skyrocket - [email protected] Sky Rocket HD - Note 1 - SGS3 - Note 2
Razr - Razr Maxx - Atrix HD Razr M- Razr i - Razr HD Maxx
Insert 10 phones here - One X - One X+
I remember when I bought a SGS2 on AT&T and not even a damn 60 days later the LTE version was already out.
Its the name of the game. More and more people are jumping to the next phone just because its the latest and greatest. Why wouldn't a business capitalize on that?
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Yep nailed it sounds like the op is just butt hurt that HTC released a new phone...
Btw op I've had non Wi-Fi or calling issues phones been rock stable
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If you must have the latest and greatest phones as they release quit buying carrier subsidized phones. I could care less if the price drops $0.99 subsidized, I guarantee I'm still going to get $400 for mine and will have upgrade for a couple hundred dollars. In 5-6 months, I will do it again.
That's how it is
In Android world if your phone stays on top for 6 months...consider yourself lucky...new phones launch every week...and samsung is no different...Galaxy S (Vibrant) was awful...no updates except from 2.1 to 2.2 and it had very bad firmware...thanks to CM...I am running 4.1 on it now
Wait, is my One X going to explode when the One X+ comes out?
Maybe not, but it will be REALLY embarrassing to be seen holding one
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According to Koush on his G+ apparently the AT&T and Verizon S4 will be bootloader locked. Whilst the Verizon one probably will be the AT&T one would be a shock. I can't imagine this is true as the other galaxy devices on AT&T haven't been but I thought I'd let people know if this is the case I imagine it will be bypassed .
UPDATE: according to the engadget review they contacted Samsung who confirmed the s4 is bootloader locked. http://www.engadget.com/2013/04/24/samsung-galaxy-s-4-review/
UPDATE2: according to many sources one being Steve Kondik on he G+ the AT&T S4 is bootloader locked.
https://plus.google.com/u/0/100275307499530023476/posts/b4AqTzzVKVS
ste1164 said:
According to Koush on his G+ apparently the AT&T and Verizon S4 will be bootloader locked. Whilst the Verizon one probably will be the AT&T one would be a shock. I can't imagine this is true as the other galaxy devices on AT&T haven't been but I thought I'd let people know if this is the case I imagine it will be bypassed .
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I don't think we should be all that concerned if this is true. I am coming from the HTC One X, which was rooted on day 1 on XDA and the bootloader was unlocked on day 3 or day 4 on XDA. If it is locked, it is only a matter of time.
if its locked im pretty sure adam will be more than willing to help unlock it like he did for the vzw s3 and note2 considering his main carrier is att
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rsmolen said:
I don't think we should be all that concerned if this is true. I am coming from the HTC One X, which was rooted on day 1 on XDA and the bootloader was unlocked on day 3 or day 4 on XDA. If it is locked, it is only a matter of time.
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completely different than a htc. they are in no way locked the same way the htc unlock was basically a bypass of how htcdev worked. this will actually take hardware level scanning etc. and then finding an exploit somewhere in the bootloader or the pit
Wait, what? Link?
Yeah, where are you getting your information?
EDIT: Sorry, just saw the line about Koush on G+.
If true its going back and ill pick up the htc one or just keep my note 2.
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If true its going back and ill pick up the htc one or just keep my note 2.
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Now thats a bit drastic lol. By no means does this mean, if its true, that it wouldnt be unlockable very shortly. I'd just like to read something about it though.
I love rumors that people randomly make up.
SysAdmNj said:
Now thats a bit drastic lol. By no means does this mean, if its true, that it wouldnt be unlockable very shortly. I'd just like to read something about it though.
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I guess its just me but i cant do phones that dont have root. But i heard this a week ago on android central too that the verizon & at&t models will be locked up. I was hoping it was wrong.
fix-this! said:
If true its going back and ill pick up the htc one or just keep my note 2.
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if the bootloader is locked you'll go to HTC Lololololol - you are aware that HTC locks all their bootloaders right?and if you wanna flash roms on the go you have to also s-off the device...otherwise you will need a computer for every Rom flash...or flashimagegui.apk if it supports your phone. And lately HTC s-off has required hardware tampering like my HTC vivid...you literally to short the phone while running a program with a wire...HTC is the worst android company (nice phones tho...) But they just lock everything down so hard
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mg2195 said:
if the bootloader is locked you'll go to HTC Lololololol - you are aware that HTC locks all their bootloaders right?and if you wanna flash roms on the go you have to also s-off the device...otherwise you will need a computer for every Rom flash...or flashimagegui.apk if it supports your phone. And lately HTC s-off has required hardware tampering like my HTC vivid...you literally to short the phone while running a program with a wire...HTC is the worst android company (nice phones tho...) But they just lock everything down so hard
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Im thinking about grabbing the GS4 on my other line, which I'm sure i will...I already bought a few cases for it.. But anyways, I currently have the HTC One and its unlocked and rooted and I can flash roms on the go. I can also flash international roms as they also work on the ATT HTC One with no issues. And for everyone that likes CM, it was posted on G+ that almost the entire CM team grabbed a HTC One.
mg2195 said:
if the bootloader is locked you'll go to HTC Lololololol - you are aware that HTC locks all their bootloaders right?and if you wanna flash roms on the go you have to also s-off the device...otherwise you will need a computer for every Rom flash...or flashimagegui.apk if it supports your phone. And lately HTC s-off has required hardware tampering like my HTC vivid...you literally to short the phone while running a program with a wire...HTC is the worst android company (nice phones tho...) But they just lock everything down so hard
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Koush said he had a source I do not know who it is & the HTC One is open after you use HTC Dev. The only disadvantage being you can't hide the fact you have done it until you get S-Off. Older HTC devices I agree flashing the boot.img on the One X was very annoying but the one isn't like this.
ste1164 said:
Koush said he had a source I do not know who it is & the HTC One is open after you use HTC Dev. The only disadvantage being you can't hide the fact you have done it until you get S-Off. Older HTC devices I agree flashing the boot.img on the One X was very annoying but the one isn't like this.
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Well thank god HTC finally has started to get the idea of what android is all about-great to know you no longer have to flash the boot.IMG separately
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Wow I'm glad I never got an htc. I did hear they locked all bootloaders. I also heard that all verizon phones have locked bootloaders not too sure if that is true. But All I know is I have had the galaxy s, the galaxy 2 and 3 and the galaxy note 2. And oh yea then there was my first android phone the g2x (I wonder why I almost forgot about that one) I got to say I love my note2 it kicks ass and it sounds funny but my favorite was the s2 I don't know why but I just love that phone. Right now I am using the s3 because I dropped my note2. Its a nice phone but just not as good as the others. Plus its a picky processor. Unfortunately I regret the fact that I will not be getting an s4 because I am going to be tied up medically for the next year or so by the time I am around there will probably be an s5 or note 3 or 4 if they even go that far with them. Or who knows maybe samsung will start a new flagship. Sorry to go off topic fellas
mojorisin7178 said:
Wow I'm glad I never got an htc. I did hear they locked all bootloaders. I also heard that all verizon phones have locked bootloaders not too sure if that is true. But All I know is I have had the galaxy s, the galaxy 2 and 3 and the galaxy note 2. And oh yea then there was my first android phone the g2x (I wonder why I almost forgot about that one) I got to say I love my note2 it kicks ass and it sounds funny but my favorite was the s2 I don't know why but I just love that phone. Right now I am using the s3 because I dropped my note2. Its a nice phone but just not as good as the others. Plus its a picky processor. Unfortunately I regret the fact that I will not be getting an s4 because I am going to be tied up medically for the next year or so by the time I am around there will probably be an s5 or note 3 or 4 if they even go that far with them. Or who knows maybe samsung will start a new flagship. Sorry to go off topic fellas
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The S2 was a perfect phone for the time. It's also been my favorite Android phone ever...but hopefully the S4 takes that title soon.
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plmiller0905 said:
Im thinking about grabbing the GS4 on my other line, which I'm sure i will...I already bought a few cases for it.. But anyways, I currently have the HTC One and its unlocked and rooted and I can flash roms on the go. I can also flash international roms as they also work on the ATT HTC One with no issues. And for everyone that likes CM, it was posted on G+ that almost the entire CM team grabbed a HTC One.
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While yes Steve Kondik himself got the AT&T HTC One... He also said he's going to carry both the S4 and the One in his review of the One. That being said... HTC has pissed away their chances with me. The One in my humble opinion is fugly, and the thing feels like a cheap toy.. I'm way more impressed by the build quality of my Nexus 4 or Optimus G.. Also I love having the ability to swap out the battery something I've missed having sold my S3 as well as the fact it has an SD card slot.. But that's just my opinion..
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While yes Steve Kondik himself got the AT&T HTC One... He also said he's going to carry both the S4 and the One in his review of the One. That being said... HTC has pissed away their chances with me. The One in my humble opinion is fugly, and the thing feels like a cheap toy.. I'm way more impressed by the build quality of my Nexus 4 or Optimus G.. Also I love having the ability to swap out the battery something I've missed having sold my S3 as well as the fact it has an SD card slot.. But that's just my opinion..
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Same here. I'm absolutely done with HTC as a company after the Raider.
Who'd have thought that my decision to go with them because of solidly built devices and a good out-of-box experience would go so awry? Here I come, crawling back to Samsung (had an SGS1 previously).
TemporaryTester said:
Same here. I'm absolutely done with HTC as a company after the Raider.
Who'd have thought that my decision to go with them because of solidly built devices and a good out-of-box experience would go so awry? Here I come, crawling back to Samsung (had an SGS1 previously).
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The Nexus One was a great device, and I loved it.. But I've been quite disappointed with HTC ever since.. I like to give every company a fair shot, The One X (international version) was the last straw for me.. To be completely honest.. IF the Sony Xperia Z or ZL had the snapdragon 600 chipset, I would most likely be getting one instead. I can't justify spending more on that device with an older chipset for more money off contract. S4 is $639 before taxes.. Though I do have a Premier acct, so I'm going to TRY to get them to give me the $100 discount as well.. Never hurts to ask, ended up getting my launch date S3 for $49.99 after they matched Best Buy, and gave me the premier discount.. It's all in whom you talk to...
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mg2195 said:
Well thank god HTC finally has started to get the idea of what android is all about-great to know you no longer have to flash the boot.IMG separately
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Yeah agreed that was stupid.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/04/24/samsung-galaxy-s-4-review/ looks like Koush was right samsung confirmed it in engadgets review.