[Q] Would my theory work? - General Questions and Answers

Okay, say I bought a galaxy s2 skyrocket without a plan. Then I rooted it and downloaded a wireless tether app to make my phone a wireless hotspot. I then downloaded a VoIp app like (textPlus).
What I'm wondering is will I be able to talk anywhere like a regular cell phone but without the charge? Because the VoIp app needs internet to receive/send calls and texts. And the wireless tether will provide that. So yeah, I'm just wondering if its possible to make it a phone without call/texting/data charges.
Thank you.

katukutu said:
i dont think so .lol
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Oh damn. Haha well okay thanks.

When you say tether....
Dont you mean just turn on the Wifi - therefore using it on a WiFi connection?
THAT should work - in theory.

REGonz said:
When you say tether....
Dont you mean just turn on the Wifi - there ore using it on a WiFi connection?
THAT should work - in theory.
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Well I meant to activate the wireless hotspot device in the phone. Thus allowing you to use internet anywhere and letting you use the VoIp app (textPlus) anywhere.

The wireless hotspot uses the cell service for the internet connection. So if the phone is not activated then no it won't work. You could use the voip to make calls when you have access to someones wifi or using an open connection by wardriving.

85gallon said:
When you activate wifi tether the phone needs to be activated because cell service is used for the data connection. So the answer is no.
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Oh okay I see. Thank you

google voice over 4g data
Search on play store for GrooVe IP. It is a paid ($5) app that claims to route google voice calls over the phones data connection.

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roms that have wifi calling working

does anyone know of any sense 3.5 rom that has wifi calling working correctly? I am currently on miui and love it but the wifi calling kills it.
MESALLEM said:
does anyone know of any sense 3.5 rom that has wifi calling working correctly? I am currently on miui and love it but the wifi calling kills it.
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Correct me if i'm wrong.
But as far as i know wifi calling isn't supported on Sense 3.5.
Because the Tmouse app isn't compatible with GB2.3.5
I'm using InsertCoin's Sense 3.5 Rom and Wifi Calling works flawlesly.
It doesn't crash on phonecalls?
mattjorgs said:
I'm using InsertCoin's Sense 3.5 Rom and Wifi Calling works flawlesly.
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How do I set it up for tmobile USA? If my plan don't include wifi, it was just count the minutes toward my plan, if I understand correctly. The feature could still be useful in a location of poor cell signal.
MESALLEM said:
It doesn't crash on phonecalls?
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Never crashed. (Yet!)
tk_xda said:
How do I set it up for tmobile USA? If my plan don't include wifi, it was just count the minutes toward my plan, if I understand correctly. The feature could still be useful in a location of poor cell signal.
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What do you mean wifi is not included in your plan? As far as I know wifi has nothing to do with T-Mobile's plans. And to set it up all I had to do was connect to a wifi network and the wifi calling app prompted me that i can make calls over wifi.
I can upload the .apk from my phone if you don't have com.android.kineto.apk in /system/app
Does the error also occur on viber calls?
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mattjorgs said:
What do you mean wifi is not included in your plan? As far as I know wifi has nothing to do with T-Mobile's plans. And to set it up all I had to do was connect to a wifi network and the wifi calling app prompted me that i can make calls over wifi.
I can upload the .apk from my phone if you don't have com.android.kineto.apk in /system/app
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I was referring to the fact the TMobile provides for routing of calls dialed over wifi and for some plans, these calls do not count as minutes. An example is their hotspot at home plan.
Please send your .apk.
If your apk is not using the carrier, how does it route calls to other phones? Do you have to pay a third party to ring landlines,etc from it, like internet VoIP services work?
tk_xda said:
I was referring to the fact the TMobile provides for routing of calls dialed over wifi and for some plans, these calls do not count as minutes. An example is their hotspot at home plan.
Please send your .apk.
If your apk is not using the carrier, how does it route calls to other phones? Do you have to pay a third party to ring landlines,etc from it, like internet VoIP services work?
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Well, when you make a call it goes through T-mobile and then whatever carrier the other end has and etc. This all happens just eh same except on your end, you're reaching T-Mobile through the internet, not the mobile network.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/18343305/com.android.kineto.apk
wifi calling is exclusive to carriers T-mobile and Orange - if you don't have one of those two carriers, and an approved phone (such as HTC Sensation ) then you won't get past Kineto's gateway, no matter what apk is loaded on your phone.
One of the best deals for wifi calling is T-Mo's Monthly 4G $60 prepaid no-contract plan, it includes:
- unlimited voice calling
- unlimited wifi calling
- unlimited SMS & MMS texting
- unlimited 4G data (but throttled after 2GB/month)
- unlimited tethering (but throttled after 2GB/month as above)
- unlimited mobile wifi hotspot (but throttled after 2GB/month as above)

any way to make calls on xoom using network

Any way to do this? I've only got SMS and mms working using mod but wanted to make calls using my simcard in the xoom
Look into groove IP and Google voice....
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Glock stole my thunder. Groove IP and Google Voice works like a charm.
What about just actually making calls using my sim card without data on the mobile network itself
i would like to know this as well
I had it working from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21812012 the patch here...tho it kinda made the system unstable ...when id open phone (the dial pad? It would always force close....also the speakers & mic arent active so may be you could try ur luck with a bluetooth headset !
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mox123 said:
What about just actually making calls using my sim card without data on the mobile network itself
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Do you mean calling off wifi as opposed to using a 3g or 4g network? If so, then yes you can with groove ip. I have the mz602 without mobile data enabled, and am able to call people off my google contacts with my tablet. To disable mobile data I believe you just swap your tablet to airplane mode. I havent been able to recieve calls but, from what I understand, that is just a matter of changing the settings and enabling google chat.... it is somewhere in the forums, another thing in my list of things to do
Hope this helps
Draxin said:
Do you mean calling off wifi as opposed to using a 3g or 4g network? If so, then yes you can with groove ip. I have the mz602 without mobile data enabled, and am able to call people off my google contacts with my tablet. To disable mobile data I believe you just swap your tablet to airplane mode. I havent been able to recieve calls but, from what I understand, that is just a matter of changing the settings and enabling google chat.... it is somewhere in the forums, another thing in my list of things to do
Hope this helps
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Can my motorola xoom wifi work with my sim card because i wanna make phone calls with it and also receive sms and mms on, as my mobile phone

question about wifi calling and tethering

ok, so on my tmo plan i got a deal where if i got the 5gb plan for 30 a month they threw in free tethering and free wifi calling
my question is, with using rooted roms, do i need to have those on my plan? in other words, if i drop my data plan to 2gb a month i loose the free wifi and tethering but i though or read somewhere that using a rooted rom i have those functions anyway
wifi calling is a free utility with this phone I thought (stock or not, doesn't matter) the tether is something they are cracking down on, ways around it with root and something to do with chrome look in the threads around about tethering stopped.
so if i used a wifi tethering app i would not need to have tethering on my plan with t-mobile?
they may still catch it and block you but I read there is a setting oyou can change within your desktop browser to allow it.
you mean the browser on the device you are connecting to your phone?
I don't know if they have started charging for free Wi-Fi Calling. That sounds like an oxymoron, but it isn't quite. "Free Wi-Fi Calling" means that minutes used during Wi-Fi Calling are not counted against your monthly allotment. The last I heard (as recently as January, when I had it turned on for my account), they didn't charge for it. If they've changed, it should be called "unlimited Wi-Fi Calling" instead of "free". In either event, you can use it if you have the app in your ROM; the only difference is whether the minutes get charged against your monthly allotment or not.
Being rooted has no effect on the T-Mobile enforcement of your Terms of Service that forbid you to use tethering without a tethering plan. They are apparently now detecting some PC browser user agent strings (reportedly Internet Explorer and Chrome, but not Firefox, for some reason) and blocking access via those browsers by redirecting you to an advertisement for their tethering plan. If you're doing non-browser things (ssh, email, etc.), they probably won't detect that you're tethering. It's reported that changing the browser's user agent string to something other than the default circumvents the T-Mobile detection, although if you use an android browser string, naturally you'll end up on mostly mobile versions of the sites you visit. It's also likely that if you're using a VPN and proxy, that will also prevent their detection of your tethering.
I'm still using 2.2.2 stock. When I connect via WiFi, a banner pops up stating calling on WiFi counts against your normal minutes. In other words, your call plan minutes apply with either their towers or WiFi. Makes some sense, as you have to use their Call Manager/Session Manager to route the call...
Just port your number to Google Voice and use Groove IP or Talkatone, currently the top VoIP apps for Android.
wmm said:
I don't know if they have started charging for free Wi-Fi Calling. That sounds like an oxymoron, but it isn't quite. "Free Wi-Fi Calling" means that minutes used during Wi-Fi Calling are not counted against your monthly allotment. The last I heard (as recently as January, when I had it turned on for my account), they didn't charge for it. If they've changed, it should be called "unlimited Wi-Fi Calling" instead of "free". In either event, you can use it if you have the app in your ROM; the only difference is whether the minutes get charged against your monthly allotment or not.
Being rooted has no effect on the T-Mobile enforcement of your Terms of Service that forbid you to use tethering without a tethering plan. They are apparently now detecting some PC browser user agent strings (reportedly Internet Explorer and Chrome, but not Firefox, for some reason) and blocking access via those browsers by redirecting you to an advertisement for their tethering plan. If you're doing non-browser things (ssh, email, etc.), they probably won't detect that you're tethering. It's reported that changing the browser's user agent string to something other than the default circumvents the T-Mobile detection, although if you use an android browser string, naturally you'll end up on mostly mobile versions of the sites you visit. It's also likely that if you're using a VPN and proxy, that will also prevent their detection of your tethering.
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that makes the most sense and i have also read that about changing the user agent string. but if im tethering an android tablet would there be anything to change? that was my goal with wifi tethering, use my phone as a hotspot for my tablet (when i finally get one)
dodgefan67 said:
ok, so on my tmo plan i got a deal where if i got the 5gb plan for 30 a month they threw in free tethering and free wifi calling
my question is, with using rooted roms, do i need to have those on my plan? in other words, if i drop my data plan to 2gb a month i loose the free wifi and tethering but i though or read somewhere that using a rooted rom i have those functions anyway
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T-Mobile is cracking down lately. Regardless of what ROM you are running, if you drop your free tethering plan, you are going to have to screw around with changing the User Agent on your laptop/tablet to avoid being blocked.
I use my phone for tethering with the tablet. You'll use the 5gb once you start doin it. They charge for the tethering plan now, so you're better off leaving it so you'll be grandfathered in for next upgrade.
holy flying tacos batman
Probably a dumb question but what is the benefits of tethering vs wifi hotspot?
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xBkKx said:
Probably a dumb question but what is the benefits of tethering vs wifi hotspot?
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You may not always be near a WiFi hotspot. The park, the beach, working in your car, etc.
xBkKx said:
Probably a dumb question but what is the benefits of tethering vs wifi hotspot?
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there are two ways to tether a device, usb and wifi. usb is obvious, you connect your phone to your laptop and your laptop uses your phone like a modem or router to get internet access
wifi hotspot is the same just through wifi, its like your wireless router at home
think usb tethering=network cable, wifi tethering=wireless router
Well I meant this phone has wifi hotspot on it why not use that vs tethering or does it still amount to that in terms of data usage?
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xBkKx said:
Well I meant this phone has wifi hotspot on it why not use that vs tethering or does it still amount to that in terms of data usage?
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i think it doesnt matter
but some devices cant connect to a wifi hotspot, granted most laptops or handheld devices do have wifi, some older laptops may not and may be able to use usb tethering. you can also use it on a pc that probably doesnt have wifi
Ah alright, never used either of them so wasn't sure why everything I see is about tethering on the phone and nothing about the hotspot
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no worries, they are in the same place in the settings, under tethering and wifi hotspot, they kinda do the same thing. i use my wifi hotspot with my kindle fire
I believe on stock ROMs (including rooted), unless you freeze or uninstall some app that TMobile installed that monitors whether you're using tethering or hotspotting. That's their easy way to detect whether you're tethering, they may also sniff your packets for the user agent info, but I'm not sure if they go through that much trouble. Besides most data plans have limits now, they shouldn't care how those gigabytes are used.
namklak said:
I'm still using 2.2.2 stock. When I connect via WiFi, a banner pops up stating calling on WiFi counts against your normal minutes. In other words, your call plan minutes apply with either their towers or WiFi. Makes some sense, as you have to use their Call Manager/Session Manager to route the call...
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In more recent stock ROMs the message has changed to read, "may use minutes with certain plans." As I said, at least as recently as January, free Wi-Fi Calling was a no-charge add-on to the plan -- just call up customer service and ask to have it turned on. (I hadn't bothered before then because I never came close to using up all my minutes, but in January I added my son to my family plan when he switched over from AT&T, and at that point it became important. )

[Q] Using the phone as a modem

Is there a way to use the Samsung Galaxy S III as a modem without using the USB Tethering option, but setting up a new connection through a modem in windows. If it is possible what should be the settings for the connection such as the dialing number and the modem initialization string?
Thank you.
Are you trying to use your Galaxy S 3 as a dial-up modem? just trying to clarify if this is what you are asking, I don't know if it's possible. Can I ask why you would want this?
darkhawk3383 said:
Are you trying to use your Galaxy S 3 as a dial-up modem? just trying to clarify if this is what you are asking, I don't know if it's possible. Can I ask why you would want this?
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Yes I want to use the phone as a dial-up modem. I want to connect it to a dd-wrt router as a usb device so that the router can use it as an external dial up modem to give access to the internet for a home network. (for both wired and wireless devices)
Humm I don't think it is possible my guess is your having unlimited voice and thinking that if I dial out that is all that will be used. Well your idea would need some sort of virtual dial up modem on the phone which it doesn't have. An app would need to be created just to do this also you would still need dialup ISP service. If I was you I would look into other options like NetZero 4g hotspot.
mirrin said:
Humm I don't think it is possible my guess is your having unlimited voice and thinking that if I dial out that is all that will be used. Well your idea would need some sort of virtual dial up modem on the phone which it doesn't have. An app would need to be created just to do this also you would still need dialup ISP service. If I was you I would look into other options like NetZero 4g hotspot.
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It has absolutely nothing to do with the unlimited voice. It still would work as data connection. Like for any other provider all you need is the correct number to dial (for example for T-Mobile it is #99*) and the proper access point name (for example for T-Mobile it could be internet2.voicestream.com). May be I did not state is clearly I want to use it as a 3g/4g dial-up modem, not a simple over voice dial-up modem.
Now the hotspot would not work. I need a unified connection for both wired and wireless devices. If I use a hotspot device than the wireless clients and the router would have to be connected to the hotspot network wirelessly and the wired clients would still be connected to the router which would make it two different networks. More over if the hotspot would to be removed than the whole system would have to be set up again.
It should be #777
[email protected]
Password: vzw
That's what it was with my wife's old pantech.
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kintwofan said:
It should be #777
[email protected]
Password: vzw
That's what it was with my wife's old pantech.
Sent from my SGS3 running Eclipse 2.1
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Thanks. And what about the APN?
I don't know that, all I needed was the number username and password. Just Google the Verizon APN that should work.
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[Q] Texting and/or Calling App that works without wifi or mobile network!

I am looking for a app that works without a wifi or a mobile 3G network. I have three different smartphones that I need to install this app on: One is a Galaxy S3, the other is a BB, and the last one is a Virgin Mobile Venture. I need a app that will allow me to communicate to the phones that require no wifi or mobile network access. Is there any out there?
So you want it to work via Bluetooth ?
Are these phones always going to be near each other with BT turned on ?
Can it use mobile data, just not "3G" ?
What are you trying to accomplish ?
wndrwmn87 said:
I am looking for a app that works without a wifi or a mobile 3G network. I have three different smartphones that I need to install this app on: One is a Galaxy S3, the other is a BB, and the last one is a Virgin Mobile Venture. I need a app that will allow me to communicate to the phones that require no wifi or mobile network access. Is there any out there?
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I don't know how or what you want them to "communicate". But you could definitely hook them all up to the computer through usb and they would "communicate".
Wireless communication will not be possible without some sort of transceiver. And Bluetooth may be a possible solution for file transfers. It will really depend on your capabilities and knowhow.
The more I think about it, the more I feel that this post is a prank.
How do you plan on sending a call without a network or any type of wireless signal transfer you can't use Bluetooth because that would only allow you to call people right next to you or in the same room maybe a couple rooms over your voice travels farther then a Bluetooth connection does. And connecting it to your computer to call someone does you know good without and internet connection. So your back to your voice again....its kind of impossible to do what you are trying to do.
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basketthis said:
The more I think about it, the more I feel that this post is a prank.
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I think that a lot, but I've seen people come up with some truly unique questions.
basketthis said:
I don't know how or what you want them to "communicate". But you could definitely hook them all up to the computer through usb and they would "communicate".
Wireless communication will not be possible without some sort of transceiver. And Bluetooth may be a possible solution for file transfers. It will really depend on your capabilities and knowhow.
The more I think about it, the more I feel that this post is a prank.
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Thank you, This is not a prank, I am looking for something that will be able to communicate without a mobile network, I seen someone had at least a texting app that worked, but i am looking for one that you can call as well as text without the mobile network. I see now that it is unrealistic to say without wifi or mobile network.
Pennycake said:
So you want it to work via Bluetooth ?
Are these phones always going to be near each other with BT turned on ?
Can it use mobile data, just not "3G" ?
What are you trying to accomplish ?
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Thank you for the response. They are not all going to be in the same area at the same time, and I am unable to use the mobile network.
Pen, paper, and a stamp?
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I think the app you're looking for is KakaoTalk https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kakao.talk&hl=en
It's a cross-platform (Android, iOS, BlackBerry) free texting and calling app.
Of course, you need some kind of data connection, either WiFi or 3G.
I assume you're travelling out of your country and don't want to pay roaming fees, so you would have to find a WiFi hotspot to use this app.
a app that works without a wifi
just have a try of Xender,it can transfer pictures, videos, documents even contact list to friends at a moment! one of its most important advantages is it runs without wifi. so i want to suggest it because it is very convenniet .
if you like it, please share it with your friends~
wndrwmn87 said:
I am looking for a app that works without a wifi or a mobile 3G network. I have three different smartphones that I need to install this app on: One is a Galaxy S3, the other is a BB, and the last one is a Virgin Mobile Venture. I need a app that will allow me to communicate to the phones that require no wifi or mobile network access. Is there any out there?
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