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By going through the manual & comparing it to the EU version I've compiled a list of things tmous has changed on the phone. (in case anyone was interested)
Removed:
Quick Lookup - ability to select something & choose lookup through Google, Wikipedia, etc
Show Me app
Ebook reader completely missing even though HTC widget is still there
Voice Recorder
Voice Dialer
Dock settings
Locations
The Device Setup on first boot is missing things
Added:
Wifi calling (Tmobile's UMA feature)
I wonder why Tmobile removed all of these?
Here is a Voice Recorder app in the market that someone recommended since ours is missing:
http://market.android.com/details?id=com.tokasiki.android.voicerecorder
Did they keep Locations? And the quick look up thing is actually useful...dumb.
aNYthing24 said:
Did they keep Locations? And the quick look up thing is actually useful...dumb.
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Ya, really dumb move by T-Mobile . Anyone know how to add quick lookup?
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voice recorder is in there I'm sure,I'm sure I seen it
voice recorder is not in there...ive searched for it..theres a widget for it but when you click it it doesnt do anything..
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Did they keep Locations? And the quick look up thing is actually useful...dumb.
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seems to be missing too. updated post.
Man why the **** is it 3 years since using a HTC Touch and they are still locking in bull**** accuweather with no zipcode search or cities that aren't major?
Ran into the voicerecorder bs.
Is there anyway to add any of those features back in or are they hard built into the rom?
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I wonder why Tmobile removed all of these?
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What do you mean by "wifi calling"? is it calling via wifi using SIP provider?
If so, we do have it on our Vodafone UK branded units.
If it's something else, please explain.
well I guess it's good I havn't waited for the 4G to come and pre-ordered the British version.. just one thing, the WiFi Calling looks good.. (first time with Android and HTC xD) is there any way to get it in the UK Sensation Z710e ?
paulmor said:
What do you mean by "wifi calling"? is it calling via wifi using SIP provider?
If so, we do have it on our Vodafone UK branded units.
If it's something else, please explain.
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T-Mobile is a pretty cool system. When you're at home (or on a WiFi network that doesn't do much filtering), phone calls, SMS, and MMS inbound or outbound route through WiFi instead of the cellular network. I've noticed this has the benefit of improving battery life while on WiFi, as it turns off the WCDMA (3G/4G) radio. It actually seems like it might turn off the cellular radio completely, I'll have to check when I get home.
The one downside is that if you are on the phone and walk away from your WiFi network, it will drop the call. It can't hand off.
I'm not sure if this is common in Europe, but in the states, many wireless carriers offer femtocell units that users can install in their home if they have bad reception. WiFi calling eliminates the need for that.
Wifi calling will notify you of a mms but it will not download the message. At least that's my experience with the G2x.
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TheBigSaxon said:
Wifi calling will notify you of a mms but it will not download the message. At least that's my experience with the G2x.
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ah sorry was just going off what I've been told regarding MMS. I actually don't use SMS or MMS, I use google voice for "SMS" purposes and don't have any use for MMS (if someone wants to send me a photo they just email it).
I have an unbranded phone from HK but also have Show Me and Locations. (Maybe the other stuff too - didn't check).
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I've noticed this has the benefit of improving battery life while on WiFi, as it turns off the WCDMA (3G/4G) radio. It actually seems like it might turn off the cellular radio completely, I'll have to check when I get home.
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I think it shuts off the radio as well. My buddy had it turned on by accident & was freaking out because he was on wifi & showed no signal bars.
_kansei_ said:
T-Mobile is a pretty cool system. When you're at home (or on a WiFi network that doesn't do much filtering), phone calls, SMS, and MMS inbound or outbound route through WiFi instead of the cellular network. I've noticed this has the benefit of improving battery life while on WiFi, as it turns off the WCDMA (3G/4G) radio. It actually seems like it might turn off the cellular radio completely, I'll have to check when I get home.
The one downside is that if you are on the phone and walk away from your WiFi network, it will drop the call. It can't hand off.
I'm not sure if this is common in Europe, but in the states, many wireless carriers offer femtocell units that users can install in their home if they have bad reception. WiFi calling eliminates the need for that.
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A similar feature to the TMOUS "wifi calling" is offered in the UK by BT Mobile. They call it BT Fusion.
Fem2cell is available here from Vodafone, known as Sure Signal
Subscribed in case someone posts the APKs to port over these missing features
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Subscribed in case someone posts the APKs to port over these missing features
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Good call, I'm gonna need wifi calling at the very least before I'll hop over to an alternate ROM (who am I kidding I'm sure I won't be able to resist). The my account app is handy but it's in the market anyway (there was an update a day or two ago).
When you say Dock Settings is there a separate App/Icon for the EU version or are the settings completely gone from withing the Settings Menu?
setzer715 said:
When you say Dock Settings is there a separate App/Icon for the EU version or are the settings completely gone from withing the Settings Menu?
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It's in the settings menu & is gone from the US version
Guys, try installing these apk's for loacations . Not sure about last 2, try firs 2 at first, and then add last two if needed. Not sure if it will work, but worth a try
Okay, say I bought a galaxy s2 skyrocket without a plan. Then I rooted it and downloaded a wireless tether app to make my phone a wireless hotspot. I then downloaded a VoIp app like (textPlus).
What I'm wondering is will I be able to talk anywhere like a regular cell phone but without the charge? Because the VoIp app needs internet to receive/send calls and texts. And the wireless tether will provide that. So yeah, I'm just wondering if its possible to make it a phone without call/texting/data charges.
Thank you.
katukutu said:
i dont think so .lol
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Oh damn. Haha well okay thanks.
When you say tether....
Dont you mean just turn on the Wifi - therefore using it on a WiFi connection?
THAT should work - in theory.
REGonz said:
When you say tether....
Dont you mean just turn on the Wifi - there ore using it on a WiFi connection?
THAT should work - in theory.
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Well I meant to activate the wireless hotspot device in the phone. Thus allowing you to use internet anywhere and letting you use the VoIp app (textPlus) anywhere.
The wireless hotspot uses the cell service for the internet connection. So if the phone is not activated then no it won't work. You could use the voip to make calls when you have access to someones wifi or using an open connection by wardriving.
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When you activate wifi tether the phone needs to be activated because cell service is used for the data connection. So the answer is no.
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Oh okay I see. Thank you
google voice over 4g data
Search on play store for GrooVe IP. It is a paid ($5) app that claims to route google voice calls over the phones data connection.
ok, so on my tmo plan i got a deal where if i got the 5gb plan for 30 a month they threw in free tethering and free wifi calling
my question is, with using rooted roms, do i need to have those on my plan? in other words, if i drop my data plan to 2gb a month i loose the free wifi and tethering but i though or read somewhere that using a rooted rom i have those functions anyway
wifi calling is a free utility with this phone I thought (stock or not, doesn't matter) the tether is something they are cracking down on, ways around it with root and something to do with chrome look in the threads around about tethering stopped.
so if i used a wifi tethering app i would not need to have tethering on my plan with t-mobile?
they may still catch it and block you but I read there is a setting oyou can change within your desktop browser to allow it.
you mean the browser on the device you are connecting to your phone?
I don't know if they have started charging for free Wi-Fi Calling. That sounds like an oxymoron, but it isn't quite. "Free Wi-Fi Calling" means that minutes used during Wi-Fi Calling are not counted against your monthly allotment. The last I heard (as recently as January, when I had it turned on for my account), they didn't charge for it. If they've changed, it should be called "unlimited Wi-Fi Calling" instead of "free". In either event, you can use it if you have the app in your ROM; the only difference is whether the minutes get charged against your monthly allotment or not.
Being rooted has no effect on the T-Mobile enforcement of your Terms of Service that forbid you to use tethering without a tethering plan. They are apparently now detecting some PC browser user agent strings (reportedly Internet Explorer and Chrome, but not Firefox, for some reason) and blocking access via those browsers by redirecting you to an advertisement for their tethering plan. If you're doing non-browser things (ssh, email, etc.), they probably won't detect that you're tethering. It's reported that changing the browser's user agent string to something other than the default circumvents the T-Mobile detection, although if you use an android browser string, naturally you'll end up on mostly mobile versions of the sites you visit. It's also likely that if you're using a VPN and proxy, that will also prevent their detection of your tethering.
I'm still using 2.2.2 stock. When I connect via WiFi, a banner pops up stating calling on WiFi counts against your normal minutes. In other words, your call plan minutes apply with either their towers or WiFi. Makes some sense, as you have to use their Call Manager/Session Manager to route the call...
Just port your number to Google Voice and use Groove IP or Talkatone, currently the top VoIP apps for Android.
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I don't know if they have started charging for free Wi-Fi Calling. That sounds like an oxymoron, but it isn't quite. "Free Wi-Fi Calling" means that minutes used during Wi-Fi Calling are not counted against your monthly allotment. The last I heard (as recently as January, when I had it turned on for my account), they didn't charge for it. If they've changed, it should be called "unlimited Wi-Fi Calling" instead of "free". In either event, you can use it if you have the app in your ROM; the only difference is whether the minutes get charged against your monthly allotment or not.
Being rooted has no effect on the T-Mobile enforcement of your Terms of Service that forbid you to use tethering without a tethering plan. They are apparently now detecting some PC browser user agent strings (reportedly Internet Explorer and Chrome, but not Firefox, for some reason) and blocking access via those browsers by redirecting you to an advertisement for their tethering plan. If you're doing non-browser things (ssh, email, etc.), they probably won't detect that you're tethering. It's reported that changing the browser's user agent string to something other than the default circumvents the T-Mobile detection, although if you use an android browser string, naturally you'll end up on mostly mobile versions of the sites you visit. It's also likely that if you're using a VPN and proxy, that will also prevent their detection of your tethering.
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that makes the most sense and i have also read that about changing the user agent string. but if im tethering an android tablet would there be anything to change? that was my goal with wifi tethering, use my phone as a hotspot for my tablet (when i finally get one)
dodgefan67 said:
ok, so on my tmo plan i got a deal where if i got the 5gb plan for 30 a month they threw in free tethering and free wifi calling
my question is, with using rooted roms, do i need to have those on my plan? in other words, if i drop my data plan to 2gb a month i loose the free wifi and tethering but i though or read somewhere that using a rooted rom i have those functions anyway
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T-Mobile is cracking down lately. Regardless of what ROM you are running, if you drop your free tethering plan, you are going to have to screw around with changing the User Agent on your laptop/tablet to avoid being blocked.
I use my phone for tethering with the tablet. You'll use the 5gb once you start doin it. They charge for the tethering plan now, so you're better off leaving it so you'll be grandfathered in for next upgrade.
holy flying tacos batman
Probably a dumb question but what is the benefits of tethering vs wifi hotspot?
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xBkKx said:
Probably a dumb question but what is the benefits of tethering vs wifi hotspot?
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You may not always be near a WiFi hotspot. The park, the beach, working in your car, etc.
xBkKx said:
Probably a dumb question but what is the benefits of tethering vs wifi hotspot?
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there are two ways to tether a device, usb and wifi. usb is obvious, you connect your phone to your laptop and your laptop uses your phone like a modem or router to get internet access
wifi hotspot is the same just through wifi, its like your wireless router at home
think usb tethering=network cable, wifi tethering=wireless router
Well I meant this phone has wifi hotspot on it why not use that vs tethering or does it still amount to that in terms of data usage?
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xBkKx said:
Well I meant this phone has wifi hotspot on it why not use that vs tethering or does it still amount to that in terms of data usage?
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i think it doesnt matter
but some devices cant connect to a wifi hotspot, granted most laptops or handheld devices do have wifi, some older laptops may not and may be able to use usb tethering. you can also use it on a pc that probably doesnt have wifi
Ah alright, never used either of them so wasn't sure why everything I see is about tethering on the phone and nothing about the hotspot
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no worries, they are in the same place in the settings, under tethering and wifi hotspot, they kinda do the same thing. i use my wifi hotspot with my kindle fire
I believe on stock ROMs (including rooted), unless you freeze or uninstall some app that TMobile installed that monitors whether you're using tethering or hotspotting. That's their easy way to detect whether you're tethering, they may also sniff your packets for the user agent info, but I'm not sure if they go through that much trouble. Besides most data plans have limits now, they shouldn't care how those gigabytes are used.
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I'm still using 2.2.2 stock. When I connect via WiFi, a banner pops up stating calling on WiFi counts against your normal minutes. In other words, your call plan minutes apply with either their towers or WiFi. Makes some sense, as you have to use their Call Manager/Session Manager to route the call...
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In more recent stock ROMs the message has changed to read, "may use minutes with certain plans." As I said, at least as recently as January, free Wi-Fi Calling was a no-charge add-on to the plan -- just call up customer service and ask to have it turned on. (I hadn't bothered before then because I never came close to using up all my minutes, but in January I added my son to my family plan when he switched over from AT&T, and at that point it became important. )
http://www.androidcentral.com/t-mobile-add-wi-fi-calling-support-its-nexus-6-model-early-2015
Shipping with Android 5.0, the new Nexus 6 gives customers the latest and greatest Google mobile experience, and seamless integration with the apps they love. Plus, this hot new smartphone is expected to support Wi-Fi Un-leashed beginning in early 2015 with an over-the-air update– making it the first-ever Nexus device that will support Wi-Fi Calling thanks to enhancements in Android 5.0. And only with the Un-carrier can customers use the latest, super-sized devices the way they were meant to be used – with no annual service contract, no domestic overages and unlimited music streaming all on the nation's fastest LTE network, plus unlimited data and texting in 120+ countries and destinations − and now, Wi-Fi Un-leashed.
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Will this be exclusive to the Nexus 6? If it is, surely it will be possible to port it to the Nexus 5?
Here's to hoping we get this included in our 5.0 update.
my first thought, which is nothing more than a guess, is that this will be hardware based on the N6 and "unlocked" with a T-Mo OTA and will not be able to be ported to the N5.
Lucke said:
my first thought, which is nothing more than a guess, is that this will be hardware based on the N6 and "unlocked" with a T-Mo OTA and will not be able to be ported to the N5.
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considering Tmobile is making this feature available in early 2015 with an OTA I think you are right in guess that this will be something Tmobile bakes into the OS and not functionality native in Android L
Edit: Unless Google has a planned update for L in early 2015 that Tmobile knows about (I highly doubt it)
Improved network handoffs resulting in limited interruption in connectivity. For example, continue your video chat or VoIP calls without interruption as you leave the house and switch from your home Wi-Fi back to cellular
thats from here https://www.android.com/versions/lollipop-5-0/
I think wifi calling and voLTE are going to be baked into 5.0 no matter the carrier
david279 said:
Improved network handoffs resulting in limited interruption in connectivity. For example, continue your video chat or VoIP calls without interruption as you leave the house and switch from your home Wi-Fi back to cellular
thats from here https://www.android.com/versions/lollipop-5-0/
I think wifi calling and voLTE are going to be baked into 5.0 no matter the carrier
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that's my suspicion as well..
google may bake hangouts code (or the hangouts dialer code) into the native dialer, making them one & the same -
http://forums.androidcentral.com/google-nexus-5/436152-nexus-5-likely-see-wi-fi-calling-over-t-mobile-soon-4.html#post3918556
david279 said:
Improved network handoffs resulting in limited interruption in connectivity. For example, continue your video chat or VoIP calls without interruption as you leave the house and switch from your home Wi-Fi back to cellular
thats from here https://www.android.com/versions/lollipop-5-0/
I think wifi calling and voLTE are going to be baked into 5.0 no matter the carrier
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but that doesn't necessarily mean that t-mobiles wi-fi calling feature, or VoLTE compatibility is baked into 5.0. VoLTE is too new to test fully, and while that may work, you can't use VoLTE on wi-fi. the features you're talking about is the issue of dropping signal for that split second when you leave your house (the time where wi-fi drops off and cell doesn't re-establish itself instantly) for the purpose of hangouts (voice or video).
i still think that since the N5 isn't compatible with t-mo's wi-fi calling, it's not just a software thing.
that is talking about network handoff in general, nothing about hangouts. And the ota to enable this feature will be released next year so its probably being tweaked now to be ready for next year.
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also wifi calling has never been a hardware feature, its all software. back in the day of early CM(7 or 8) wifi calling was added to all the T-mo htc phones and it was the same as its being done today. A apps and a couple of libs in /system.
in other words, the feature doesn't need a carrier add -on (ims core registration), if it's OS software based..
even right now, we *have it* on the nexus 5, with gv / hangouts / number integration, on wifi & lte & I can stream a youtube vid & be on a call at the same time, so right now, it's a given in the userspace via apps, as an over the top solution (works dam well too)
a revision of android L may deeply provide a seemless solution with it's update; I suspect this much.. (the carrier's ims' Ok on data voice is only complementary) but, can be worked around..
j'vai said:
even right now, we *have it* on the nexus 5, with gv / hangouts / number integration, on wifi & lte & I can stream a youtube vid & be on a call at the same time, so right now, it's a given in the userspace via apps, as an over the top solution (works dam well too)
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its not the same thing. you go from cell signal call to a wifi call with the same number. it is not VoIP.
Zepius said:
its not the same thing. you go from cell signal call to a wifi call with the same number. it is not VoIP.
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even currently, hand-offs isn't reliable, votle / wifi calling is more, stationary than anything, from what I've been reading from the experiences of users on tmobile & Verizon..
with the over the top solution now on the nexus 5 (or many adroid devices), same difference;
one better, technically the nexus 5 isn't even supported on Verizon, but yet, can have voice over lte on Verizon (AWS) with a lte data only connection ..
on other networks, it matters not what the data air interface is, the call can be made, with one solution..
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even currently, hand-offs isn't reliable, votle / wifi calling is more, stationary than anything, from what I've been reading from the experiences of users on tmobile & Verizon..
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this is impossible. Verizon does not have wifi calling at this time.
you cannot compare VoLTE to tmobile's WIFI calling as they are not the same.
VoLTE is only VoIP over LTE. nothing more.
tmobile's wifi calling is a regular cell signal call that can become a VoIP call but still use the original tmobile number.
Zepius said:
this is impossible. Verizon does not have wifi calling at this time.
you cannot compare VoLTE to tmobile's WIFI calling as they are not the same.
VoLTE is only VoIP over LTE. nothing more.
tmobile's wifi calling is a regular cell signal call that can become a VoIP call but still use the original tmobile number.
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look at what you've typed, & go back & re-read what you quoted from me...
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"Keyan X
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The nexus 5 can access and use Verizon LTE its been proven and confirmed"
"iavaj jj
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+Keyan X I'm not disagreeing with you that it DOESN'T work; just expanding that, from my prior post, one can have unfettered data & voice on Verizon's LTE band 4, where coverage is..
Google gave the nexus 5 a backdoor with the new hangouts dialer.."
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Zepius said:
this is impossible. Verizon does not have wifi calling at this time.
you cannot compare VoLTE to tmobile's WIFI calling as they are not the same.
VoLTE is only VoIP over LTE. nothing more.
tmobile's wifi calling is a regular cell signal call that can become a VoIP call but still use the original tmobile number.
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"on other networks, it matters not what the data air interface is, the call can be made, with one solution.. "
I'm on sprint, with gv integration, all I'd need is data -
http://forums.androidcentral.com/google-nexus-5/436152-nexus-5-likely-see-wi-fi-calling-over-t-mobile-soon-5.html
anywhere in the world, I'd have the same 202 (wash dc) area code calling out..
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even currently, hand-offs isn't reliable, votle / wifi calling is more, stationary than anything, from what I've been reading from the experiences of users on tmobile & Verizon..
with the over the top solution now on the nexus 5 (or many adroid devices), same difference;
one better, technically the nexus 5 isn't even supported on Verizon, but yet, can have voice over lte on Verizon (AWS) with a lte data only connection ..
on other networks, it matters not what the data air interface is, the call can be made, with one solution..
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nexus 5 does not work on voice over lte(volte) that verizon has. yes, verizons volte just began. no, the nexus 5 does not work on it. only thing that the n5 can do on verizon is get data.
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nexus 5 does not work on voice over lte(volte) that verizon has.
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if it can ALREADY obtain the lte data service ( as in the youtube video) what would hinder gv from making & receiving calls with an over the top solution, with just Verizon acting as a dumb pipe?
it hasn't stopped me on sprint, nor tmobile, I guess it wouldn't stop me on att..
what would stop it on Verizon?
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look at what you've typed, & go back & re-read what you quoted from me...
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"Keyan X
3 hours ago
The nexus 5 can access and use Verizon LTE its been proven and confirmed"
"iavaj jj
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+Keyan X I'm not disagreeing with you that it DOESN'T work; just expanding that, from my prior post, one can have unfettered data & voice on Verizon's LTE band 4, where coverage is..
Google gave the nexus 5 a backdoor with the new hangouts dialer.."
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"on other networks, it matters not what the data air interface is, the call can be made, with one solution.. "
I'm on sprint, with gv integration, all I'd need is data -
http://forums.androidcentral.com/google-nexus-5/436152-nexus-5-likely-see-wi-fi-calling-over-t-mobile-soon-5.html
anywhere in the world, I'd have the same 202 (wash dc) area code calling out..
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you still do not understand the difference between VoIP, VoLTE, and wifi callling
I guess the majority are stuck on the schematics of volte, as only being ims based implemented by the carrier, also wifi calling or it ain't real -
"VoLTE, Voice over LTE is an IMS-based specification. Adopting this approach, it enables the system to be integrated with the suite of applications that will become available on LTE."
http://www.radio-electronics.com/info/cellulartelecomms/lte-long-term-evolution/voice-over-lte-volte.php
I'm not swayed by market speak, when the solution is at hand already, market speak sways many to purchases not needed, wen what they had in hand already could have done the job perfectly..
j'vai said:
if it can ALREADY obtain the lte data service ( as in the youtube video) what would hinder gv from making & receiving calls with an over the top solution, with just Verizon acting as a dumb pipe?
it hasn't stopped me on sprint, nor tmobile, I guess it wouldn't stop me on att..
what would stop it on Verizon?
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thats fine, use your google voice number on the data only connection. you said that voice calls work over volte. when in fact they do not. older lte tech did not allow voice calls over lte, so when you made calls, you switched to H or 3G. this new tech allows calls over lte now, which needs a device that can call over lte. the nexus 5 can not call over lte, but most new phones will be able to now.
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you still do not understand the difference between VoIP, VoLTE, and wifi callling
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market speak aside the division of wifi, lte, voip calling, is calls over data - which I expressed my sentiment here (posted for the second time)-
http://forums.androidcentral.com/google-nexus-5/436152-nexus-5-likely-see-wi-fi-calling-over-t-mobile-soon-5.html#post3929214
guess I need to copy & paste w/o the pics -
"have a hacker mindset, & push things to work how you want them;
forget simply wifi calling, I want it all, *data calling* irrelevant of the air interface used;
I have a truphone sim, that was collecting dust in my wallet for the longest, last night I decided to try something,
*use it*, lol
it had like $39 odd on it in credit, as stated, I'm a current sprint sub, with google voice integration, I've gave the truphone number to no one, it's basically dormant, minus test calls to keep the account alive, but it's no contact number for me..
what I'm did last night was swap my sprint sim, for the truphone sim, to utilize it's data, while still having my main sprint number via google voice, which I can receive & make, calls, videochat, mms, sms via hangouts, I've set hangouts to *receive incoming calls* since the native dialer isn't tied to the sprint sim anymore (so no double rings from hangouts & the native dialer)...
I want to see how far that $39 will take me..
at home & at work, I'm connect to wifi, so only in between, out & about am I utilizing truphone AKA tmobile's hspa data service-
all calls via the hangouts / gv / sprint number are nothing but data calls, ither on tmobile's hspa or wifi, likewise with sms, mms, & of course video chat.."
I won't have to upgrade from the nexus 5, for the same feature set..
j'vai said:
market speak aside the division of wifi, lte, voip calling, is calls over data - which I expressed my sentiment here (posted for the second time)-
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I won't have to upgrade from the nexus 5, for the same feature set..
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congrats. you discovered VoIP.
VoIP is not the same as VoLTE
VoIP is not the same as WIFI calling.
i'm correcting you because you are spreading mis-information.
simms22 said:
thats fine, use your google voice number on the data only connection. you said that voice calls work over volte. when in fact they do not. older lte tech did not allow voice calls over lte, so when you made calls, you switched to H or 3G. this new tech allows calls over lte now, which needs a device that can call over lte. the nexus 5 can not call over lte, but most new phones will be able to now.
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*my voice calls over lte with google voice on the nexus 5 works wOnders*
& I can use the browser, stream from youtube while on a call.. I don't have to wait for the carriers to *OK* the phone from their IMS core.. I simply go over the top of it, for the same functionality..
I've posted about this throughout the board, but I figured it would be better to make a thread since everyone keeps asking about it.
You'll need to install Google Voice and Hangouts Dialer and set them up. That's it. Just use the Hangouts dialer when making a call and it will do it over WiFi. If you wish to have people call you over WiFi, they'll have to call your Google Voice number.
This is a workaround, so you will be dealing with two numbers. Your carrier assigned number and your GV number. In my GV settings I have chosen to use GV for all calls, now I just have to get the number out to people. The other option is to port your current cell number over to GV, and then you won't have to notify anyone.
The VZW signal at my house is terrible, so this is what I do, and I can tell you it works perfectly. Hope this helps some of you with poor wireless reception.
Cheers.
This works so well, and I love the features that GV offers, call screening, texting from your computer, etc, plus the fact that I plan on buying unlocked phones going forward, that I decided to port my number over to Google Voice. Now it doesn't matter if the phone I buy supports my carriers WiFi calling or vice versa, and I'm only dealing with the one number I've had for years. Couldn't be happier.
Yeah, I just called ATT for help provisioning my daughter in law's replacement iPhone and while I had support on the phone I asked them about Wifi Calling and she said that our phone is not on the BYOD list for wifi calling. She said that very few phones are, it;s pretty much the iPhone 6 and 6s at this time.
Which is weird, because wifi-calling isn't even going through their network. That's the point of wifi calling, that you are using your phone on someone's wifi, so why does AT&T even give a rat's a$$ if you do that? So weird...
So if my network provider has WiFi calling as part of my deal as standard will it work without the work around?
combat goofwing said:
So if my network provider has WiFi calling as part of my deal as standard will it work without the work around?
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If Wifi calling shows up in the settings menu, you should be all set, and won't need this. However, if you're on Verizon, like me, or AT&T like the poster above, chances are it's not showing up in your settings menu. So, if you want to make calls over Wifi, this is the way to go.
In the UK on EE ,importing it via the outrageous Amazon cyber Monday deal
spotmark said:
If Wifi calling shows up in the settings menu, you should be all set, and won't need this. However, if you're on Verizon, like me, or AT&T like the poster above, chances are it's not showing up in your settings menu. So, if you want to make calls over Wifi, this is the way to go.
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I am on AT&T Mexico, wifi calling shows for me in settings but we dont have wifi calling over here yet.
TheDethEgineer said:
I am on AT&T Mexico, wifi calling shows for me in settings but we don't have wifi calling over here yet.
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That's a fine how-do-you. I guess that's another case for GV.
spotmark said:
If Wifi calling shows up in the settings menu, you should be all set, and won't need this. However, if you're on Verizon, like me, or AT&T like the poster above, chances are it's not showing up in your settings menu. So, if you want to make calls over Wifi, this is the way to go.
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I'm on AT&T and wireless calling is in settings. Haven't tested to see if it works yet though
immewnity said:
I'm on AT&T and wireless calling is in settings. Haven't tested to see if it works yet though
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I'm on Verizon so I can't speak for AT&T, but in my case I don't have the option in settings.
Frankly, I don't care about Wifi calling except for that once or twice a year I am both out of cell coverage, but somehow manage to have wifi and need to make a call. With unlimited minutes and data, the need for wifi calling is pretty slim, but it would be nice for that once in a blue moon where you do.
I don't see why AT&T has to "support" the one feature that doesn't go through their network anyway...
After using Google Voice for free home service for about eight years now, I've also gone all in with it on my cell phone. I ported my cell number over to Google Voice, so I don't have to alert anyone of a number change, and I love all the features it offers. I can make/receive calls from my cell, computer, or home phone ( my Wifi ONLY tablet, too, if I want). All using my cell number. The lone home phone will receive calls to both our home phone number and my cell number. Texting can be done from my cell or computer. It offers call screening, call recording, conference calling, visual voicemail, and do not disturb. Finally, it makes all my calls as VOIP (internet) calls. So as long as I have a data signal, be it from my carrier or WiFi, it makes crystal clear calls. I absolutely love it. I wish I had made the switch years ago.
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This works so well, and I love the features that GV offers, call screening, texting from your computer, etc, plus the fact that I plan on buying unlocked phones going forward, that I decided to port my number over to Google Voice. Now it doesn't matter if the phone I buy supports my carriers WiFi calling or vice versa, and I'm only dealing with the one number I've had for years. Couldn't be happier.
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This is Voice over IP (VOIP), not WIFI-Calling. WIFI calling is when your phone can seamlessly transition between cell network and WIFI, so you can receive network calls over wifi.
reverenddak said:
This is Voice over IP (VOIP), not WIFI-Calling. WIFI calling is when your phone can seamlessly transition between cell network and WIFI, so you can receive network calls over wifi.
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Thank you, I'm well aware of that, but as I stated in my OP, this is a workaround for those of us who don't have the WiFi calling option.
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I'm on Verizon so I can't speak for AT&T, but in my case I don't have the option in settings.
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Interestingly, after the most recent update, WiFi calling is an option in my settings menu. I'm on Verizon.
1901madison said:
Interestingly, after the most recent update, WiFi calling is an option in my settings menu. I'm on Verizon.
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Does it work?
I don't know. I'll try when I get home tonight.
I can confirm that Wi-Fi calling works for T-Mobile on Oreo beta 1.
I can confirm that too... it works also for t-mobile on 7.1.1 :good:
Works on EE in the UK ,had to switch it on in call settings but working fine