I rooted my Epic 4G a few weeks ago. I had problems with the 3G, so I eventually had to do a full wipe with Odin (just flashing the kernel never worked, it kept failing. Only a full wipe worked.) So I re-rooted so I could restore all my backups with Titanium Backup and just kept root.
Well, today I went back into Titanium Backup only to discover that it said I was NOT rooted. This didn't make any sense...I did get one OTA update to my phone, but I was under the impression that these didn't remove root.
So I thought maybe it was my BusyBox...I used the link within Titanium to DL BusyBox. Went into the BusyBox installer, and it's main screen said I WAS rooted...the Heck?
So I tried to install, but I got the error saying it failed. The exact wording was "The application failed, either because your device is not nand unlocked or we were unable to remount."
So what gives?
I tried to re-root using the one-click, that didn't work. I tried to uninstall the root using the one-click uninstaller, that didn't work. The windows just hang up and don't do anything. I tried to re-flash the kernel with Odin and, just like last time, it didn't work. I get the feeling I'll have to do what I did last time and do a complete wipe with Odin, which will really suck because I'm not able to recreate any backups this time around.
sounds like a superuser permission issue to me.
ota removes root, always, just reroot
I should phrase the question, "Can I lose root if I do not update with an HTC/TMO update?".
I walked through guide (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300) to root my Sensation and it worked with no issues. I had the root phone for several weeks and decided to try a couple new ROMs. I did my due diligence and did a full backup with Titanium and then a CM backup. The problem arose when I flashed in the Revolution HD ROM. Once installed, I could not get Titanium to work. It kept saying it could not get root permission. I checked SuperUser, and it was there, but would not prompt to allow root access for any of my apps. I restored back to my original ROM and again, I do not seem to have root. All my applications are there, SuperUser is set to prompt me when an app requests root, but none of the root apps will work anymore. I grabbed a root checking app off the market, and it says it cannot obtain root too. I checked fastboot and it still shows S-OFF. I've never had this issue with any of my other Android devices once I rooted them. I was able to get my root access back by following step 3 of the guide, but I'm curious how I lost root by flashing in another custom ROM. Any ideas?
You didn't lose root you lost root access. It happened with two of my nandroids from CWM. I just erased them and started over from a fresh rom install and everything was fine. It kinda suxs though lol when SU tells you it can't get access. There are a few if us that this happened too. Its been mentioned in yje Clockwork thread.
I did the update just now and thought everything went well. This is my first time. Someone else put infused 2.1.0 on phone and everything that goes along with that. I followed the directions in beginning of post to manually do the update. Now all my root apps are telling me i'm not rooted. I rebooted, took battery out and back in. I have read entire Infused post and no one has had this issue? Before i started i went into ROM manager and made a back up first.
Not sure what to do now??
R you doweling of a OTA update or rom update I'm assuming rom. Is your supper user still available in your app drawer if so go into the setting and make sure its on. If not I recommended unbrick to stock and re-flash make you directions are followed to the T
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Um SU is still in app drawrer. Not sure how to turn on or off. It is working ...that is, it is denying everything.
LG_iiNsTiiNcT said:
R you doweling of a OTA update or rom update I'm assuming rom. Is your supper user still available in your app drawer if so go into the setting and make sure its on. If not I recommended unbrick to stock and re-flash make you directions are followed to the T
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Can i restore the backup i did before the update? Will that take me back to 2.1.0 where all was well?
Just do a reboot, all your app will work after that
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I did reboot. I have NO ROOT after this update but everything else is fine. All apps are there...but my root apps say i don't hve root. I d/l root checker from mkt and it says it;'s there but the binary isn't up to date or installed incorrectly. within SU i tried updating the binary and it fails.????
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I did reboot. I have NO ROOT after this update but everything else is fine. All apps are there...but my root apps say i don't hve root. I d/l root checker from mkt and it says it;'s there but the binary isn't up to date or installed incorrectly. within SU i tried updating the binary and it fails.????
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does anyone know anything about the issue?? Please. When i was rooted of course i got the SU app. I updated the SU app on mkt recently.to 3.0 .a week or so ago..everything was fine and working. Does anyone know ..maybe uninstall the updates to SU and see if it works? I am really stumpd as to why i lost root.
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does anyone know anything about the issue?? Please. When i was rooted of course i got the SU app. I updated the SU app on mkt recently.to 3.0 .a week or so ago..everything was fine and working. Does anyone know ..maybe uninstall the updates to SU and see if it works? I am really stumpd as to why i lost root.
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Uninstall the update
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ok. i uninstalled the update to SU. rebooted. all Root apps still don't work and say i'm not rooted. NOW though. SU doesn't even come on and say denied. ....
Rooted just means you have the su app and can give su permissions to apps. If apps are asking for su permissions and not getting them it's the same as not being rooted as far as the app is concerned. Go into you super user app and see what has permissions and what doesn't, try to reset the settings.
update 2.1.0-2.2.3 LOST ROOT???
Just a recap...i was rooted running infused 2.1.0 and had and used rooted apps. I did the update 2.1.0-2.2.3 infused update then all of a sudden i couldn't get into titanium backup or any of my rooted apps. every time i open one SU denies it. I d/l root checker from mkt and it finds SU 3.0 on phone but says im either not rooted correctly or not at all. it gives me a log but i can't make heads or tails of it..so , if someone could I can PM you the log. I checked my SU permisions/settings...it should work...doesn't ands won't allow a thing. How did I lose ROOT? I followed the manual instructions in post.
All of this is related to me updating to 2.2.3 infused ROM. however, i have read the eintire forum front to back twice and no one has lost root because of the update...I even tried installing busybox but it fails because it says i am NOT rooted. I uninstalled the update to SU 3.0..that didn't work.
GTG-- I PM'd you days ago asking for your input on the upgrade but didn't hear back...upgrade done...issue...lost root....any ideas??
upgrade infused 2.1.0-2.2.3
Anyone out there with an idea? I haven't heard of anyone losing root having done this upgrade. Could i possibly still be rooted but maybe a setting got messed up somewhere? a file moved??
Still looking for answers...thanks
I have been through this many times before, you can do two usually the root access comes back after a reboot, since it didn't for you here are couple things you should consider to do
1) uninstall superuser than download again from market. Or
1) flash the rom again from scratch
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I have been through this many times before, you can do two usually the root access comes back after a reboot, since it didn't for you here are couple things you should consider to do
1) uninstall superuser than download again from market. Or
1) flash the rom again from scratch
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well, since SU came from root and is a system app and apprently i am not rooted so i can not remove a system app I can uninstall the SU upgrade i did from mkt...which i did and rebooted, no luck. are you or anyone familiar with the "root checker" app? i can send a log if anyone can make sense out of it.
maruf010 i earlier post i said this is the first time i have tried anything like this with my phone ...i had soneone else root and install infused 2.1.0...i only attempeted the upgrade so...wonder if you can PM me and if you can maybe walk me through your second option?
I'm running out of ideas bro, I consider my self a "Rom flashing junky " flashing from one rom to another since my first captivate! let's do this again step by step, hoping this time it'll work..... make sure to transfer "titanium backup " folder to your computer before doing this. You can use it back later.
1) run gtg's back to stock using Odin
2) root the phone using super one click
3) drop all three the the new rom(2.1.0),
update v2.2.3, and the community kernel
4) download sgs kernel flasher from market
5) flash the community kernel, wait about 10 min let it do its thing till your phone comes back to live
5) power off the phone
6) using 3 button combo go to RED clockworkmod
7) install zip from SD card (flash the actual rom 2.1.0)
8) flash the update ( from 2.1.0 to v2.2.3)
8) finally do a wipe/factory reset
9) install titanium backup from market
10) restore your "missing app with data" only.
I know you did everything what i just said but my suggestion is to you ,do this again.
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upgrade 2.1.0-2.2.3 LOST ROOT
Well, lesson to all. make a back up no matter what you do. Shouldn't of had to with an update but....since i did do a back up ..I AM BACK to 2.1.0 where i guess the saying is true...if it aint broke don't fix it. all is well..root back!. If I try going back to 2.2.3 i will do full install.
Thanks to everyone who had an opinion. weirdest thing ever...still bugs me why the ONLY this wrong with the upgrade was i seemingly lost root.
Glad u found a fix bro!
upgrade 2.1.0-2.2.3-LOST ROOT
Thanks!!! I'm all happy again. If anyone else has this issue...i really do beleive it is SU. Look at it on the mkt..since the 3.0 upgrade there have been many issues. I uninstalled the 3.0 SU upgrade and now i'm back to 2.6.3.1 BUT my binary is 3.0. I have yet to trythe infused upgrade again...IF (and when) i do it may not work because of my binary BUT all is well back on unfused 2.1.0!! No way to uninstall binary upgrade to SU i guess.
IF IT AINT BROKE--DON'T FIX IT..YEAH RIGHT ! LIKE WE ALL WON'T KEEP ROMMING!
upgraded infused 2.1.0-2.2.3 lost root
I am still having this issue when trying to upgrade infused from 2.1.0-2.2.3!!! Can someone answer this? The upgrade goes fine but then SU thinks im not rooted and then i can not restore any back ups cause titanium won't work. I haven't tried full zip only because i do not want to have to fetch all my apps again...zzz. I t looks like a lot of people have moved on to MIUI but i want to conquer this first..hahha
NOw, in the CWM instructions it says if you have a voodoo folder on your sd card delete it..well, that is for first time install....if i am trying the upgrade should i still delete the voodoo folder on my sd card? then move on to steop 7?? I reallly doi not want to delete something i may need. Inside that folder it is a log folder but in that log folder there are some CWM-recoveries..???
oh, and not sure if this matters all all but whn flashing upgrades or full ROM does it matter what you have your file system mounted as??
Anyone out there?? I just tried the update again and same thing...SU won't work...tried going into CWM and , download rom, super user, and i d/l SU from ther but then it says press ok to boot into recovery and finish unstalling...i press ok and nothing happens. I manually go into recovery...then what? Where did the download go and how do i finish installing SU??
PLEASE anyone...also, there is an option in recovery to "apply the update" Never used that one before...i just install from SD then pick the update...do i have to "apply update" after install then reboot?
i tried searching the forums and google and couldnt find much of anything. i rooted using he debugfsroot tool and unlocked with adams tool. ive been running fne for a week or so i still have superuser installed and it gives permissions to titanium backup but hwen i tried to run the battery calibration app it said im not rooted. i downloaded root check basic and it says im not rooted either... i confused as ive not received any updates to my knowledge.. i delted the process that supposedly checks for updates... any ideas? i did try to reroot with the debugfsroot tool again and it all went through teh same steps and said successful etc. but i have the same problem.
did you update super user to the latest?
Yes i updated superuser and binary
any other ieas? is rooting through odin any worse of a way to root besides the fact that it will wipe my phone? it just seems wierd that would have happened.
Got it resolved. Superuser was set to auto allow.. for some reaskn it denied a few apps. Set it to prompt i allow and it works
I have been rooted since I got my S3, when the jellybean OTA came I used voodoo OTA rootkeeper to keep my root, it seemed to work fine, all of my apps that used root still worked (root explorer, adfree), the other day I tried to use titanium backup and it said it failed to gain root so I checked my superuser app and everything there looked fine, I tried some googleing and came across threads where people said they uninstalled the updates and reinstalled and that worked so I tried it to no avail, then I found some who said clearing superusers cache would fix it, again nothing. (after performing these items none of my root apps were gaining root privileges) Then I noticed my binary was out of date so I went to update it and it got to acquiring root and said it failed. I am on a stock ROM any help would be appreciated so I can get my root access back
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I had the same problem. I ended up in the play store and downloaded Superuser. That did work, however I now have two - SuperSU and Superuser. I don't know which Titanium is using, but everything is working.
Bill
I tried installing supersu and that Told me the binary needed to be updated before i could use it and of course that failed to gain root
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I'm guessing root keeper didn't work. I believe if you had super su app it wasn't working. You're going to have to reroot
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It was working until i cleared the app cache though, here's a screen shot showing my root status, I'm too new to post an outside link so I can't link it (dropbox) db.tt/hAGblUCH
EDIT: I ended up just re rooting once I got on a decent pc, mine is a dinosaur and doesnt play nice with anything. Thanks for the help
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