I just downloaded the android SDK, and I must say it's pretty cool, I don't know anything about writing code, but it has an emulator so you can play around with android. I'm pretty sure we gonna be able to run android on our kaisers, so maybe some of you with the know-how could start messing about with writing some good stuffs for us to use in the future. The kaiser is already an all-around bad ass device, but if these drivers we've been waiting for come out soon (i think they will), and android gets implemented on our kaisers (i think it will), just imagine the possibilities. Thanks to everyone on this forum, our devices just keep getting better and better. I think we've all got a lot to look forward to in the next few months. I can't frickin wait this is gonna be awesome. The Iphone is gonna be pwnt once and for all!!
here's the link for the sdk:
http://code.google.com/android/download.html
I'd love to see Android on our Kaisers also
Adobe also will launch adobe device central CS for developing a mobile software
device central
I never knew what device central was until you mentioned it. So I googled it. It looks pretty damn cool. For those of you who don't know what it is, it's a mobile application design app. I guess it's kind of like visual basic for mobile apps. A way for the not-so-code-savvy amongst us to design, preview, and test mobile content. Looking at the site has inspired me to give it a try, and see if my dumb ass can develop a little something. I had an auto-update today for photoshop today and I remembered seeing something about mobile devices in the update list. Start...Programs...Adobe... Lo and behold, I have adobe device centraal already installed on my computer. Whooda thunk. Guess I'll start tinkering
I'm much like several of the people who bought TouchPads in the recent firesale. I absolutely love WebOs and the device in general but the thing that's bothering me is that the app selection is absolutely horrible! I know that there is an Android App Emulator on the PlayBook, is it possible for something like that to show up on the TouchPad? I love WebOS and I don't really want to give it up for only Android. I'm sure tons of people would really like something like this on their new Touchpads. Thanks!
Sounds like a great idea hmm...
I agree. I think that porting Dalvik to WebOS might be the best move to give us the Android apps and still let us easily use Linux, including ubuntu apps.
Well the problem would be the license..
lol...good point
license issues?
I thought it was opensource/freeware? How else could Cyanogen, etc., do what they do?
is it possible to port alien dalvik to the TouchPad? We should get some developers on this.
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is it possible to port alien dalvik to the TouchPad? We should get some developers on this.
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You took the words right out of my mouth!!
I'm actually trying to find developers for the exact same thing. It should be doable. Alien Dalvik was made in Qt which was ported to WebOS so in theory it's entirley doable. the only question is if there are any developers free to take it on that aren't currently working on a full Android OS port.
I'd really like to get a development team set up for this because alot of people would like to keep WebOS and just have a larger app catalog.
Yeah, exactly what I was thinking. We should look for a dev who could possibly have experience it Qt, though that's not completely necessary. If we gain more support, I'll post a dev thread.
I can't offer anything other than Beer/Pizza money but this is a great idea. WebOS is generally well reviewed and not looked at as a problem so much as a benefit. The OS is solid. The App Catalog is not.
Android Emulator :-D
I would love see a emulator on my TP. I would like to be able to place Android on the device I still much prefer the UI and design on WebOS even though Android is far more capable.
I'm happy to donate to this cause should someone take it up
alien dalvik is not open source, however, dalvik in general as well as the whole android os is under the apache license, this can be modified, forked and reworked (such as myriad turbo/alien dalvik) without having to release the source, its obviously possible... But you know what would be easier, porting android as a whole... Even dual booting would be easier.
Well the allure of this is having the superior Android app selection on the arguably better tablet experience of WebOS. If that were made possible - I wouldn't care about having Android on the device.
I couldn't agree more. As an OG Pre owner I love webOS but couldn't fight everything I can do with Android.
If I could get all my Android apps and keep my TP the way it is would be perfect.
The problem with porting Android right now is we have to use 2.3 which is for phones and not 3.2. I would rather either wait for ICS/4.0 for a port or just get the app market working.
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That settles it there are enoght people interested in having a standalone WebOs android app emulator without having full android.. I'm starting a development thread, doing some preliminary work, and going to look for a few interested developers to work with on getting this going. My touchpad comes tomorrow so then i can really get into it..
Thanks Roto I was just about to do the same.
also, Roto post a link
Up. Beer on me
Here is the link to the development thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16904876#post16904876
Failhard since you and I were the first to put in work on this idea i'd like you to help me head the project and find volunteer talent if you're up to it.
I took a look into what goes into a Dalvik port... it's TOTALLY doable just a matter of time and effort..
Unfortunately after i return to college in a week time will be in short supply for me so ALL help is appreciated!
I had never used WebOS before getting a tablet this last weekend. I have been an android fan for smartphones for now (I am willing to move to something better when it is available, otherwise stick to what works). I am a web designer/user interface designer and since starting using WebOS this last weekend, when it comes to the OS and its default apps that come with it, it is clear WebOS has the best user interface of the tablets (I used both iOS and Android OSes 1.5-3.2, Windows 7 tablets don't really count as a tablet OS and that is clear when using it on tablets).
The Android Emulator would be a great idea, but if you want quick development specifically for WebOS, we need to get a program created that can easily and painlessly port android apps to WebOS apps. Also it will take HP courting and reassuring the big players like Netflix, Hulu, Corporate IT Software Development companies that WebOS is viable and have continued support.
HP/WebOS only has a short amount of time to really establish itself. Next summer is rumored to be Windows 8 release and Windows 8 tablets coming. If Windows 8 can create a good tablet interface (WebOS is the one to beat imo atm as it has the number 1 interface), plus it's strong backing of games, program/application support and being able to integrate phone, xbox, tablet, and PC (Desktops and Laptops). Windows 8 is the biggest threat to anyone in the tablet market at the moment imo and they have been very successful in many of their endeavors as of late ("don't poke the sleeping giant" comes to mind, google and Apple have done that).
Due this short Window of time (pun partially intended), we have to establish WebOS as a main competitor to Google and Apple and prepare it for the onslaught of Windows 8. We need to work as a community to get things rolling and we need to push HP to court the big players in the industry to produce apps and content for WebOS and to continue further development on the operating system on their end. If we as a community and HP execute right, it will be a very exciting year coming up.
hey all. I've been using this forum for info for many years but never got around to signing up for an account. In retrospect I really should have taken care of this, as I cannot post this thread in the correct location
Anywho, I've been looking all day pretty much as to whether a gamepad is compatible with WP8. I read the xbox controller works on RT. I also saw many youtube videos of people playing GTAIII on their android phone with an xbox controller.....
I also could not find anything showing that ANY USB device would would work on WP8. I've found nothing. I tried searching this website as well. could not find anything. I'm aware that WP8 is a new OS, but I am just surprised that no one thought about that (not surprised if MS didn't think about it :silly: )
Can anyone confirm or deny this?? emulating games on wp8 with an xbox controller would be awesome.
Thanks for the help, and have a great day!
I really don't like Apple at all because of their proprietary and self obsessed tendencies. You can't do much of anything that they don't allow you to do. I have been on an Android platform since it came out years ago. That being said I am now producing music and I have been seriously considering getting an Ipad because they have several top notch synth apps and DAW's like Garage Band. The only thing I can find for Android is things that you hit a button and it makes a sound. You can't record into the program or do much of anything. Am I missing something? I would love to stick with Android, but Apple is beckoning me after all these years.
Obviously I am new to the forums, I was discussing this with a guy who told me to come here and if there was a DAW type app you guys would know about it or at least know what is in the works or why it is not coming out.
As a sidenote I have been following this thread on the android Google support forum about this very issue.
If you look up in the android code developers board at code.google dot com /p/android/issues/detail?id=3434 (won't let me post outside links so I had to separate a bunch of stuff .. just fix it to go to the link. it isn't a nefarious link it is google.
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I really don't like Apple at all because of their proprietary and self obsessed tendencies. You can't do much of anything that they don't allow you to do. I have been on an Android platform since it came out years ago. That being said I am now producing music and I have been seriously considering getting an Ipad because they have several top notch synth apps and DAW's like Garage Band. The only thing I can find for Android is things that you hit a button and it makes a sound. You can't record into the program or do much of anything. Am I missing something? I would love to stick with Android, but Apple is beckoning me after all these years.
Obviously I am new to the forums, I was discussing this with a guy who told me to come here and if there was a DAW type app you guys would know about it or at least know what is in the works or why it is not coming out.
As a sidenote I have been following this thread on the android Google support forum about this very issue.
If you look up in the android code developers board at code.google dot com /p/android/issues/detail?id=3434 (won't let me post outside links so I had to separate a bunch of stuff .. just fix it to go to the link. it isn't a nefarious link it is google.
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No suggestions yet?
Weather you need to make music entirely on phone or you have a studio and you just need more functionality with android devices, I think these two apps can help you.
I'm pretty sure you must have heard of FL Studio Mobile, I've been using it for a long time now and I can say it is the best DAW for Android. It has all the features that you will need as a producer. If your phone is powerful enough then you can produce any genre, there's a few things missing though, like orchestral instruments (there's a very few of those), also synths are not like top notch but they does the job if you are skilled, also Auto-Tune isn't that good yet.
Or you could also try Cubasis 3, it has a free demo version on play store, known as the Cubasis LE. This one is way better and powerful in terms of features but the only reason I wouldn't say it as the best one is that
1. It's not available for all devices.
2. It's really expensive.
But if that doesn't sound like much of a problem, you can try Cubasis, it has more orchestral instruments, better synths, better visuals.
Hey everyone! So apparently I don’t post a lot so I couldn’t post in the development section (guess they don’t like to provide help to noobs, oh well) so Im gonna ask here.
Are there ANY emulators for the Surface RT 2 running 8.1? Yes, I have the Test Mode thing installed as well as Win86Emu, however Im finding less of a use for this thing everyday. I got it for $70 bucks used and was going to use it for Photoshop and drawing, but apparently the Surface RT is the unwanted autistic offspring of the Surface family. Why didn’t I buy a new Surface? Not everyone is a millionare, and I have cancer so I can’t afford anything like over $80 bucks.
Im tired of not being able to use this how I want. Its almost 2018, why hasn’t the Surface been FULLY hacked yet? I want to be able to run apps like Photoshop, Nestopia, Mupen64, Chrome, etc. Microsoft’s a bunch of ******* for taking the emulators off of the Windows Store, too bad there’s no way to get them anymore.
Any ideas? Reallllly don’t want to let this tablet go to waste if I can find DECENT drawing/photo editing software as well as emulators that LET ME USE a controller. Thanks!
****ty I am in the same boat
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2092348 and https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63360780&postcount=3