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Thunderbolt envy

I went to the Verizon store today thinking that I would trade up on my HTC Incredible only to find out that Verizon got rid of the upgrade anytime ability. They said I could get a Thunderbolt, but it would cost me $600.
Oh how nice it would be to have a Thunderbolt. Anyone have any ideas to fight this with Verizon?
Maj

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Adding to the envy I just got mine Saturday... Kernals.. omfg.. I'd missed them so much when I went from D1 to DX.
newalker91 said:
Seeing as promotions are not contractual, there's not really anything you can do. All I can suggest is seeing as the T-bolt is SIM based, see if you can get someone to do an insurance claim on theirs saying they lost it and buy it off of them. They might try to blank out the IMEI but the SIM should counteract that.
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He would have to activate the "lost" phone to even get a SIM card, which wouldn't happen because the IMEI would already be flagged. Since this is Verizon's only 4G device, how would he go about getting a SIM card? The SIM cards are useless once they've been activated on an account and then replaced with a new one, so using the other person's old one isn't an option.
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Actually if he found someone to do the lost phone deal. he could then go buy the cheapest sim-based phone outright,have it set to his account then take the sim card and put it in the t.
But the cheapest one i think is about 200.00 plus any changes it does to the contract (if any) and the at least 90.00 cost for the t's replacement. would end up costing over half the cost of the t and that's only if he gets lucky on the cost of the t

tumbleweed65 said:
Actually if he found someone to do the lost phone deal. he could then go buy the cheapest sim-based phone outright,have it set to his account then take the sim card and put it in the t.
But the cheapest one i think is about 200.00 plus any changes it does to the contract (if any) and the at least 90.00 cost for the t's replacement. would end up costing over half the cost of the t and that's only if he gets lucky on the cost of the t
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How do you then get a 4G SIM? Verizon's only other SIM based devices are all 3G "world phones" that I'm pretty sure only use the SIM cards when not in the US. Verizon's not gonna say "oh, sure, you want a 4G SIM for your Blackberry.. no problem". Unless, of course, he just never wanted to utilize LTE. I don't know enough about Verizon to be certain, but was an AT&T Mobility Resolution Specialist for a while.. and what you're suggesting would definitely not work with AT&T(given the same conditions of them only having 1 device using the new network). However, how much is an outright USB 4G Modem? NVM, that would not include voice plans, and they'd know something was up when he tried to add one to a modem LOL.. seriously, I dunno if this is possible. Even if it was, would possibly just be easier to save for a bit and just buy the phone.
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Actually if he found someone to do the lost phone deal. he could then go buy the cheapest sim-based phone outright,have it set to his account then take the sim card and put it in the t.
But the cheapest one i think is about 200.00 plus any changes it does to the contract (if any) and the at least 90.00 cost for the t's replacement. would end up costing over half the cost of the t and that's only if he gets lucky on the cost of the t
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You are confusing gsm and lte. They arebnot the same. DON'T DO IT! won't get you anywhere + it's insurance fraud.
Could maybe add a line to your acct. Essentially paying $240 over the course of your contract plus $250 for the phone... It's a little cheaper.
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Well, I logged into my Verizon account and saw the following:
You are eligible to upgrade with an additional loyalty discount on 4/27/12 You may upgrade now at full price.
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Hooray. Only another year of this phone!!

Ad a line to ur account assuming ur on a family share plan and don't already have five lines. Ull pay ten extra dollars a month then have to do a device change from one mtn to another.
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stayin100 said:
Ad a line to ur account assuming ur on a family share plan and don't already have five lines. Ull pay ten extra dollars a month then have to do a device change from one mtn to another.
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He'll be getting new phones every year.
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Buy a phone off craigslist or ebay and then sell your Incredible. I got $170 for my Inc with ebay's buy back program. I bought my TB off ebay for $500.

There's a thunderbolt locally on CL for 500.
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Sell that **** man!!
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ddgarcia05 said:
There's a thunderbolt locally on CL for 500.
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You can normally talk people down a bit on CL too. So if you sell your phone for almost $200.. you're really only paying $300 for the phone which isn't bad at all with no contract!

newalker91 said:
Seeing as promotions are not contractual, there's not really anything you can do. All I can suggest is seeing as the T-bolt is SIM based, see if you can get someone to do an insurance claim on theirs saying they lost it and buy it off of them. They might try to blank out the IMEI but the SIM should counteract that.
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I am not an attorney ... but this seems like quite a fraud. You have to ask (and convince) a 'friend' to lie that they lost their phone. Then you have to lie during the activation process. Seems like a heck of a conspiracy for a few hundred dollars. I would NEVER ask a friend to participate in this type of scam.
On the other hand ... I 'lost' my Thunderbolt.

Will it work I bought one from internet?!

Hi guys, how are you doing?
Excuse me for my English
I've HTC Incredible S, I bought it from UK before a year ago.
I'm in US right now and get a simcard from At&T and paid for the Data plan but unfortunately it doesn't work!
the seller told me it should be American phone or from At&T :/
So, If I bought the Samsung Galaxy S II SkyRocket from eBay or Amazon, will it work perfectly and the data plan will work or not?!
(because I've found it from ebay $205)
I hope I can an answer for this question
Amjad

The HTC Incredible S should work with the AT&T sim. Did you take it to a AT&T store? They probably have to adjust your settings for you to use it.
If you get the Skyrocket, make sure its an AT&T version.

my Incredible S work perfect with AT&T but the data plan doesn't work because the seller told me (the phone must be from America or from AT&T) :/
So, because of that I'm asking, If I bought the Galaxy S II Skyrocket AT&T (at&t logo on the phone) from eBay, will the data plan will work or not?!
I want to change my phone because of the Data plan. I need Internet in my phone everywhere I go.

Yes the skyrocket will work on at&t its an at&t phone

I'm sorry I didn't reply to you silver03wrx
So, did you recommend me to buy it from ebay? (Here is the link)
because it's cheaper than the store + in the store I must bay $500 deposit :/
Q: If I bay the phone from the link, How much will I bay monthly?
I hope you understand me
and I hope you can help me

Depends on what phone plan you go with. Most plans for just 1 smart phone will cost around $80 to $100.
It all depends on how many minutes you want and how much internet you want (200mb or 2gb).
Just to let you know, that link you posted requires a contract. So you would likely still need a deposit to get it.
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Yeah, if I bought it I'll bay monthly around $85.
Just to let you know, that link you posted requires a contract. So you would likely still need a deposit to get it.
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Oh no, Is there anyway can I get the phone without a deposit?!
I have $250 (the phone price) but cannot bay for the deposit
any other websites you suggest for me to buy the phone...

Check out www.ebay.com. To get a brand new smart phone like the skyrocket you'll be likely paying at least $400. You may want to think about getting a less expensive phone for your price range.
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On your incredible s all you have to do is input the at&t apn settings manually to pick up data and mms
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gr8hairy1 said:
Check out www.ebay.com. To get a brand new smart phone like the skyrocket you'll be likely paying at least $400. You may want to think about getting a less expensive phone for your price range.
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Actually, I'm starting to keep on my HTC IS until the HTC Ville came ^_^
I'll keep searching...
Thanks
sh4dow1 said:
On your incredible s all you have to do is input the at&t apn settings manually to pick up data and mms
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Really, Can you please help me on this one?
If it works I'll be the happiest guy ever ^_^
I enter Settings>>Wireless & networks>>Mobile networks>>Access Point Names
and found MediaNet as my APNs and under it there is wap.cingular in a very small font
like this
MediaNet
wap.cingualr
I hope you can give me the details so I can create a new APN or edit the MediaNet
Waiting for you post

I found two apn settings for you. Try them and see what happens.
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I tried it and onther one, both didn't work

Then I would take it to the at&t store and let them get it going.
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That's wiered that does settings didn't work normally those work right away on any phone overseas or T-Mobile
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tomorrow I'll go and ask them how to do it
Q: I've see the new Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket in eBay, this is the link
They wrote "Early Termination Fee $325". What does it mean?
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I complete every thing, like chosen New Customer and Individual (24-Month) and I've choose the plan (Nation Talk Individual - 450), DataPro 2GB and Messaging Unlimited
before I checkout, in table there are:
1/ One Time Charges* = $36.00
*One time activation fees applied to your first month's bill only.
Q: Does it mean that I'll pay for this just one time?
Q: when I should pay for it?
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2/Monthly Charges† = $84.99
†These items will be billed by your carrier and do not include all fees, taxes and surcharges.
Q: Does it mean that this is my bill each month?!
When I click Next and wrote my address info, in the last there are:
NOTE: Early Termination Fee of up to $325.00 may apply.
Q: What does it mean?
Q: Will I going to pay or give them the $325.00 or what?
But in the last they ask me for the Social Security and I don't have one! I just have an US ID card.
I hope you can answer the questions, and forgive me if it's long questions
last question: What if someone (American person) give me his/her Social Security number to put it in the website to buy the phone. What will happen?!
Thank you for helping me, and i'm sorry to take your time

1) Early Termination fees apply when you cancel ur plan before it expires. Like if you cancel ur phone line within next 24 months att will charge you fees up to $325.
2) $36 You will pay only one time. You have to pay when you get new plan.
3)$84.99+tax is ur monthly bill.
4)If you use someone's social than you will need to get their info. Their info will be used instead of urs.
a.2mjed.a said:
tomorrow I'll go and ask them how to do it
Q: I've see the new Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket in eBay, this is the link
They wrote "Early Termination Fee $325". What does it mean?
+
I complete every thing, like chosen New Customer and Individual (24-Month) and I've choose the plan (Nation Talk Individual - 450), DataPro 2GB and Messaging Unlimited
before I checkout, in table there are:
1/ One Time Charges* = $36.00
*One time activation fees applied to your first month's bill only.
Q: Does it mean that I'll pay for this just one time?
Q: when I should pay for it?
--
2/Monthly Charges† = $84.99
†These items will be billed by your carrier and do not include all fees, taxes and surcharges.
Q: Does it mean that this is my bill each month?!
When I click Next and wrote my address info, in the last there are:
NOTE: Early Termination Fee of up to $325.00 may apply.
Q: What does it mean?
Q: Will I going to pay or give them the $325.00 or what?
But in the last they ask me for the Social Security and I don't have one! I just have an US ID card.
I hope you can answer the questions, and forgive me if it's long questions
last question: What if someone (American person) give me his/her Social Security number to put it in the website to buy the phone. What will happen?!
Thank you for helping me, and i'm sorry to take your time
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IMEI Barred Samsung Galaxy ALIVE!!!

I recently bought the Samsung Galaxy S2 i9100 from a pal of mine.
He is a bit of a shady character sometimes but he has always been pretty straight with me so when he told me he was selling his phone for £120 (including the box & manuals) I trusted him that it wasn't stolen or reported lost etc.
However...LOL! Apon inserting a new T-Mobile UK SIM card into it (It was a T-Mobile branded phone) I found it saying Emergency Calls Only!
He says that he got the phone on contract, which I believe and from what I have discovered on the t'internet, T-Mobile are pretty 'trigger happy' at IMEI blocking phones that don't get the bill paid on time.
But not being quite as trusting as I may seem and being the chairman of the self preservation society, I decided to get a CheckMend report.
Sure enough it was not stolen (report uploaded) or reported lost but it was reported as being blocked by one or more networks and was currently being blocked by one or more networks.
I asked my pal about this and he said that one of his dodgy buddies had tried to steal it from him once so he asked at the T-Mobile shop that they block it, which according to him, they did.
He then apparantly caught up with this bloke and massacred his face (I got the whole exaggerated story) and got the phone back and the T-Mobile twonks to 'de-barr' it again.
Now I don't know if any of that's true, it probably is actually but I'm pretty sure the main reason it's locked out is because the bruiser didn't pay his bill.
Anyway that didn't help me any so before congratulating myself on buying a small Android tablet PDA I decided to have a stab at trying to somehow make it function as a phone.
I flashed it with Odin and a non T-Mobile stock ROM, rooted it, stared at the nv_data.bin in Hex Workshop untill I couldn't see straight then had a shot at those app's that apparantly extract the SIM unlock number which failed to work either.
I thought I would add a further £16 to my loss by buying an unlock code in the slim-arse chance that it being locked out of 'one of more networks' meant that it wasn't all of them. Yeah, that was a long shot!
How-bloody-ever... After going through lots of old SIM cards that I have hoarded over the years (verifying first that they worked in another phone - der!) I wasn't having much luck.
Gif-Gaf, No! O2, No! Vodafone, No! Tesco, No! Virgin (Ah-Ha?), No! Lycos (it's gotta, what do they care, no one has even heard of them anyway), No! T-Mobile, Pass! 3UK, No! Orange...
Now I had about 20 Orange SIMs that looked like they had just rolled off the production line and not one of them worked. Likely they expired through never being activated but at the bottom of the baggie with the Orange SIMs in it was an Orange SIM dating back to around 1400 B.C.
I stopped worrying about my loss then as I thought I was soon to be in the money with my new found relic. Reluctantly I got some wire-wool and removed the surface rust (OK now I'm exaggerating) and popped the manky old thing into the nice shiney white S2!
That was the first time I have ever seen the 'Emergency Calls Only' dissapear but I had read somewhere that different networks block in different ways. i.e. some show a signal but won't connect, some won't show any signal but will dial then hang up etc. etc. so I didn't start jumping for joy untill I rang 453 and heard the voice of that patronising bi**h tell me I had £1.10 credit!
Then I rung my landline and... it rang! LOL! Happy Day's! The future is bright, the future is Orange and trust me that aint going to change either! Although I will be looking at my signal meter with some dreaded forboding over the next few days!
Now I have no idea if this will work with a brand new Orange SIM, I assume that it will though. In any case it would appear that as long as your phone is not nicked or reported lost, Orange don't give a damn if you want to connect to their PAYG network and give them cash - and rightly so!
Well done Orange for having some judgement and not blindly barring expensive phones that I got cheap!
Now does anyone want to buy a white S2 for £300? Problem is it is locked to Orange....
P.S I have uploaded a PIC of the email I got from the site I bought the £16 unlock from. They were really quick (out of hours too I assumed) and they give you all the codes including the freeze code and 3 others that I have no idea what they are for.
P.P.S No I don't know what 'summarize' means! I was just pleased dude!
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Need Help!
Hi mate, im in a very similar situation to yours where i think the original seller has claimed insurance on his phone after selling it to me. It was on ebay and he deleted the listing so there is no way i can trace it back to him. I did a checkmend report and got the same exact result as yours. The phone is locked to 3 and i am an existing customer to 3 so i was wandering if i should go and speak to them, but im afraid they may take it off me since i have no proof of purchase. Really stupid on ebays behalf to delete my older messages otherwise there would be hope. I dont think telling the police would help much either. i paid £350 for it and it came boxed up, and i bought it last year december/Jan.
Ok so i found his username and asked for the receipt which he said he dont have, also my hotmail has some 'little evidence' of us exchanging emails from his ebay account on my hotmail, do you think i can try and contact paypal? and have something done? it has been 11 months, my main concern is they might ask me to hand it in to the police and i dont want to lose out on £350!
Id like to know did the orange sim card work for you? did you manage to sell your phone?
Thanks in advance i know its a long story and ive asked so many questions but i thought you might understand my situation since you've gone through something similar.

Verizon Early Termination Fee is $175 - Stick it to the man

Verizon has made a critical error in giving us our phones. They made the contract early termination fee dependent on the device being on the advanced devices list, but then forgot to put it on. That means that the early termination fee is $175 not $350.
So I say...cancel your phone. Put it on ebay. Buy another. Make sure they know it's because of the locked bootloader. Make them hurt. And go buy a developer edition off contract.
Here is the advanced devices list. www.verizonwireless.com/advanceddevices and the SGS III is not on there.
And here is what you signed
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walkingagh said:
Verizon has made a critical error in giving us our phones. They made the contract early termination fee dependent on the device being on the advanced devices list, but then forgot to put it on. That means that the early termination fee is $175 not $350.
So I say...cancel your phone. Put it on ebay. Buy another. Make sure they know it's because of the locked bootloader. Make them hurt. And go buy a developer edition off contract.
Here is the advanced devices list. www.verizonwireless.com/advanceddevices and the SGS III is not on there.
And here is what you signed
Boosh. Stick it to the man.
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So are you doing that?
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I don't know about anyone else but my receipt for my pre-order phone shows an ETF of $0. That certainly falls within the phrasing of "up to $175" or "up to $350" which I believe is what one agrees to when signing the new contract.

tgmorris said:
I don't know about anyone else but my receipt for my pre-order phone shows an ETF of $0. That certainly falls within the phrasing of "up to $175" or "up to $350" which I believe is what one agrees to when signing the new contract.
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I actually had the same thing too. I will be doing this if we can't get an unlocked bootloader by the first week in August.

walkingagh said:
I actually had the same thing too. I will be doing this if we can't get an unlocked bootloader by the first week in August.
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While no one devs for the developer edition? I'm not going out and wasting that much on a cellphone and most wont.

I'm not returning mine but I'd just call and refuse to pay that they miss-sold us and did not notate any differentiation from the Galaxy S3 experience.

the galaxy nexus is not on that list either?

Neither is the Razr Maxx. Must be outdated.

Interesting...
Does anyone have a new customer agreement in their "My Documents and Receipts" area?
I do not. I have my previous agreement, which expires 7/6/12. I also have an equipment upgrade document for the S3 which specifies an ETF of up to $175, but has a disclaimer stating in case of an error, my customer agreement will govern over that document.
Did anyone get a new customer agreement in that section, maybe it isn't available until the first bill after the upgrade.
For the record, despite the GNex not being on that document, my customer agreement for when I purchased that phone states an ETF of up to $350.

Verizon's etf on sgs 3 is 350. I just checked a handful of my customers accounts(I work for Verizon) and they all said 350 for termination fee. I've seen Verizon do worse though

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While no one devs for the developer edition? I'm not going out and wasting that much on a cellphone and most wont.
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The dev edition will run all the roms the other us carriers do
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Upgrading to Moto G worth it?

Hi guys
Would it be worth going from Samsung Galaxy SII to a Moto. It seems like a grea but Im not sure its worth it. Is the camera better or worse then
current GSII.. Don't need it for music youtube alot..
Thx guys.

Well Moto G is an upgrade from the GSII, specially if you consider that the Motorola hardware and bechmarks are compared to the GSIII, although Moto G is 175$ cheaper. The only thing that you would miss upgrading is the camera, the GSII camera is pretty good even these days.

Touch control the only bit
It is worth it, cheap, unlocked and feels great in my hands if I could install touch control I would no miss my nexus 4 at all. The battery seems to be better than the nexus 4 too.
I say go for it.

Is ti worth paying $275 cad for it with in store activation.Activation is $35. Either that or Telus charges $60 to take device without activation.

SimpyD said:
Is ti worth paying $275 cad for it with in store activation.Activation is $35. Either that or Telus charges $60 to take device without activation.
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Another Canadian user here -- depending on where you are, you can buy an unlocked Moto G from the US website (can't post a link, but google "Moto G" and it's the first or second result), as long as you can get it shipped to a US address. Then it's just a hop across the border away.
Other thing is, I don't know about Telus, but I did call Koodo when this phone came out and the rep said that if I bought the phone from them, it'd be SIM-locked to Koodo. I see that you're on Telus, but if having an unlocked device is important to you, you might want to get it elsewhere.

RTKfan said:
I did call Koodo when this phone came out and the rep said that if I bought the phone from them, it'd be SIM-locked to Koodo. I see that you're on Telus, but if having an unlocked device is important to you, you might want to get it elsewhere.
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I bought from Koodo for $200 outright, plus tax, the week it came out. The Telus stores refused to sell outright, and when I pushed it I was told I could buy outright from the Telus website, or wait a few months. A 2nd store said they could sell outright in a week or so.
I think Google/Motorola's deal requires carriers to sell outright if asked, which is why Telus website outright buys had to be allowed.
Here in Canada we're SUPPOSED to have new regulations in place requiring carriers/sellers to unlock them on demand, more or less immediately I think, with no charge, if you buy a phone outright.
That's my read on the new regs, I'm not sure how right I am or how well that's going yet.
Anyway, it's only a few bucks to get an unlock code on EBay or wherever.

SimpyD said:
Is ti worth paying $275 cad for it with in store activation.Activation is $35. Either that or Telus charges $60 to take device without activation.
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Do not get it from Telus, try going to FutureShop, Best Buy, or The Mobile Shop. Buy it from Koodo on a $150 tab, activate, get $100 in gift cards, then cancel after 30 days. It's a lot cheaper and you don't need to sign a conttract.

audit13 said:
Do not get it from Telus, try going to FutureShop, Best Buy, or The Mobile Shop. Buy it from Koodo on a $150 tab, activate, get $100 in gift cards, then cancel after 30 days. It's a lot cheaper and you don't need to sign a conttract.
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Neither or those stores are close but I live in a smaller town, with none of big box stores anywhere close buy.. Telus lady said either I pay $35 in store activation cause of new sim and such or $60 to leave store with phone and sim and activate at home..

SimpyD said:
Neither or those stores are close but I live in a smaller town, with none of big box stores anywhere close buy.. Telus lady said either I pay $35 in store activation cause of new sim and such or $60 to leave store with phone and sim and activate at home..
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That definitely sucks. Buy it direct from Koodo with free shipping for $150?
https://shop.koodomobile.com/koodo-cell-phones/android/moto-g/prodKHMOXT1032.html

Says only available in store for Moto G.

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Says only available in store for Moto G.
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Damn, I guess they have switched to in-store only pricing.
For the money that Telus wants, I would look into getting it from the US via Amazon or Motorola. It should be unlocked and you could get the GSM or international version.
I'd say the Moto G is a definite upgrade over the S2.

Been looking at ebay I may just bite the bullet and pay $200 for phone $10 for sim and activation fee. I guess Moto G is considered a contract phone as live chat says I should not pay either of those fee's.

SimpyD said:
Been looking at ebay I may just bite the bullet and pay $200 for phone $10 for sim and activation fee. I guess Moto G is considered a contract phone as live chat says I should not pay either of those fee's.
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i think it worth
clean,0 lag,acceptable camera with flash,1 giga ram,1,2 ghz nice on real racing,fifa,asphalt 8 o other heavy games,good speed on Google browser ,good battery,nice feeling.what u want more at 199 euro?