[Q] iPAQ 110/111 turns on only when plugged in, battery is fine. HELP! Please! - General Questions and Answers

I have an iPaq 111, part of the 110 series. It's been stored in a closet for over two years. I hooked a batter charger to the battery itself (outside of the device) to charge it up enough to be able to take a charge once I put it back inside the device.
Once I did that, it powered right up, and everything worked perfectly. Then I went to unplug it, and surprise to me, it shuts off.
I've tried EVERYTHING, HP doesn't even publish there ROM. Found a setup utility to download to my PC to access my iPAQ, but it's in German, and high school was a long time ago so it's hard to understand; but what I can understand enough is that it cannot find a device. Same goes with the extension I installed through HP's website, it only finds my HP computer.
I've plugged it into my computer and the light is GREEN, suprisingly, but it does not turn on. If I plug it into the AC power adapter, it DOES turn on, stays green, and once on the homescreen, shows battery at 100% (was 23% onwards today when I was charging it). My voltage meter shows about 4 volts coming from the battery. Contacts on all ends are clean. ROM issue? Yes, I have tried soft and HARD resets.
Any help will be much appreciated. Please please please! THank you!

Battery is not fine, its dead. The proof is the fact that on AC power it turns on, but not when connected to.USB. AC power has enough amps to directly power the device, USB does not. When connected to USB power is indirectly drawn, as the phone attempts to use battery power for operation while charging it at the sametime, thus lessening the total draw. It still however needs battery to work.
Basically, the battery is dead. By a new one of eBay.

icenight, THANK YOU for the reply, it was so quick. I have figured it was the battery, BUT:
I've checked the battery with a voltmeter and it shows over 4V- using my good Fluke. Also, when it's plugged in, it progressively showed the battery charging and it's now at 100%...
Are you still thinking it could be the battery? Not enough amps from the battery? I hate to sound cheap, but it's more about the wait- I want to eBay this iPaq since I don't use it and it keeps getting in the way!
Thanks again

iPaq still not working
New battery arrived. Still does the same thing. I've read around and it could be the ROM, but it wont stay on when plugged into the PC USB port. Computer sometimes makes a noise when I plug and unplug it though. Even put a homemade "in-line" power supply to it using a 5V 1.5A adapter. This allows it to stay on when plugged into the PC usb, but there is no communication. This thing is a pile of **** I tell ya.
Any help would be so much apprecaited. Thank you so much. I can barely get past these "captcha" thingys.
Regards,
Robert

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Usb fast charging

I can't understand why it is so slow to charge!
I tried also nuePower... but with no results.
The phone charge slow (in the same usb port where other htc phones charge quickly!)...
Do you have suggestions?
usb charging is just like that.. if you want it to charge faster, use the wall charger. although, from what i've heard, slow charging is better for the battery anyways.
yes but I usually use my tp as modem and happens that phone discharge quickly than what it charges!!! so after 3 hours phone is completely discharged!!!
This happens only with tp and not with touchHD neither with TytnII!
Incredible!
Although the voltage is the same on a PC USB port as on the wall charger, the amperage is much lower. Thus, the phone will charge significantly faster on the wall charger.
However...
I also use my TP as a modem, and I can leave it on the web indefinitely. If yours is running down, perhaps there's a different issue at play - if you don't have any power hungry apps running in the background you might just have a borked battery or USB port...
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Just put your phone off... the charching goes much faster...
enigma243 said:
Although the voltage is the same on a PC USB port as on the wall charger, the amperage is much lower. Thus, the phone will charge significantly faster on the wall charger.
However...
I also use my TP as a modem, and I can leave it on the web indefinitely. If yours is running down, perhaps there's a different issue at play - if you don't have any power hungry apps running in the background you might just have a borked battery or USB port...
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I tried just after hard reset without installing any application before.
I'm using Energy ROM and I'm quite sure ROM doesn't have any problem...
I do have the same problem with my Touch Diamond. When connected to my PC or even using my car charger, it will discharge completely after 2 or three hours of using, say, GPS and a few 3G connections to check traffic.
I can't use my Diamond as a modem for the same reason... I have flashed several roms and radios, nothing changed.
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Check if the TP really charges! The unit switches off the charging mode when it gets too hot or better too warm. So e.g. when in use as a GPS in car typically mounted on the windshield, it gets too warm pretty easily as GPS is quite an energy hungry application and quick discharging also heats up the battery.
CU,
Cactus World
P.S. If you are using the TP in car and have aircon, then try to direct one of the cold air streams to the TP to keep it cool. That helps to prevent the switching off of charging mode.
Try tbattery
I use the Energy Rom and it has a utility called tbattery that can show you whether the phone is charging or not and at what rate. Would at least tell you what's happening in the phone. Also gives you the internal temperature of the phone. I've found anything higher than 41 degrees c causes the phone to go into a slower charge mode; it's possible that a higher temp could stop charging altogether - however it should still allow you to power the phone and not use the battery....
I can use phone as modem and still charge it via usb. maybe try a different rom?
I can do that, too ! The problem is the phone charges too slowly, so that the actual power consumption is higher than the charging...
I think that it depends on how you use your phone as an Internet source. I use wmwifirouter, and last time I plugged into ac, my batery still ran down. If your phone lasts 4 hours as a wifi router with no power and charging takes 5 hours, you are operating at a defecit.
I'm using 3G and Internet Connection Sharing through USB cable.
And my diamond charges completely in less than two hours using the wall charger.
Normal behavior, USB port doesn't have enough "juice" to charge it faster.
If you want a quick charge - use wall charger.
1) I can't use tethering through USB if I use the wall charger
2) I use tethering when i'm NOT near a wall power outlet, obviously
3) I don't want a "quick charge"... I just want the phone not to loose charge.
4) I have owned many WinMo devices and this is the first one that will not hold charge while connected to USB
Start -> Settings-> System tab -> Power
There will be a check box that says "When device is turned on, do not charge the battery when connected to the PC." Make sure it isn't checked.
That's the only thing I can think of right now. If I think of anything else, I'll post it.
bassman79 said:
Start -> Settings-> System tab -> Power
There will be a check box that says "When device is turned on, do not charge the battery when connected to the PC." Make sure it isn't checked.
That's the only thing I can think of right now. If I think of anything else, I'll post it.
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Thanks for the hint, but it isn't checked.
I think it's just that the phone requires too much power
And it's getting very hot very fast, which will hinder proper charging, too.
I wonder if other modern HTC devices have the same overheating problem...
hello
sorry for pushing up the topic with no sloution but new question, but yesterday i get mad when after two hours of playing streamed music + being connected to wifi my TP battery died :/ Phone was connected to wall charger (oryginal from HTC) and still i was not enough. Damn it didnt happent ever to my blueangel/eten/hermes or any other earlyer device i had. Really im starting to be angry on my latest choice of this phone i should have stay with kaiser
sorry for spelling mistakes but my English is more verbal than writable

Can usb charging damage the baterry?

When i plug my samsung omnia to the usb port it starts charging automaticly. This can be turned off with a third party app but it is really a pain in the butt as it makes me change the registry every time.
Anyway, i read somewhere that nowadays batteries won't get damage if you start charging them even if they aren't fully drained. Something like "baterry memory effect is a thing from the past."
Is this true?
Thanks in advance!
No, USb charging is the best way to charge your phone according to sticky over in the Nexus One forum. It emits the least ammount of energy to your phone making it less damaging to the battery. Car charging is the worst due to such a fast and high volume transfer rate.
I would agree, usb charging is much better than using the mains and heaven forbid using a car charger.
The usb does not give out the full 5v and while this may be a problem for usb cd-dvd’s or usn hard drives it is an advantage to us as this has the effect of trickle charging the battery and if done correctly this will in time condition your battery.
Many years ago I had the old SPV E100 and this came with a desktop cradle and I used to leave my cradle at work and drop my phone in to the cradle and use the activesync remote control to respond to texts or ‘play’ with my phone.
The E100 would barley last a day on a full charge and the cradle could not charge directly and you had to plug the charger into the cradle to make it charge. Then posts started appearing stating that with a single wire you could make the cradle charge from usb and I quickly made this mod to my cradle and hey presto I was charging from usb while at work.
I did not realise at the time the benefits of usb charging but I used to put my phone on the cradle in the morning, take it out during lunch, plug it back after lunch and take off when I go home and I used to do this almost every day and after six months or so I noticed that I could take my phone off the cradle at 5:00pm on Friday and it would still be running by Sunday lunchtime and all through usb charging.
I think I was lucky as the battery would only last a day and if you did the same on a modern device with a battery that lasts say three or four days it may not work out the same. I now have the TG01 and you will see by the reviews it has a very low capacity battery and using the same kind of trick it seems to be doing the same, its early days but so far so good.
What about day to day random connecting the phone to the pc via usb?
What about day to day random connecting the phone to the pc via usb for any other purposes than charging? Like activesync?
I use to connect a few times a day for periods of 4 or 5 minutes and then disconnect, and i am afraid of batterry side effects.
Should i be worried?
Hi again, officially speaking it should not make any difference but I would avoid plugging in for such short periods of time.
If you have a newer HTC device you may be lucky enough to have an option in the power settings something like ‘disable charging while plugged into pc’ if you tick this box you can plug and unplug to your hearts content but you will not charge.
If you anticipate being plugged in for quite some time then disable this option (if you have it). The only other way to avoid this is to look on Ebay and you will find usb sync/charge leads but you will find some with two usb connectors. One for data only and one for power only so you can charge without syncing or sync without charging or plug both in and sync and charge.
Fortunately for me once its plugged in it tends to stay plugged in for the rest of the day.
dr_strangetrick said:
Hi again, officially speaking it should not make any difference but I would avoid plugging in for such short periods of time.
If you have a newer HTC device you may be lucky enough to have an option in the power settings something like ‘disable charging while plugged into pc’ if you tick this box you can plug and unplug to your hearts content but you will not charge.
If you anticipate being plugged in for quite some time then disable this option (if you have it). The only other way to avoid this is to look on Ebay and you will find usb sync/charge leads but you will find some with two usb connectors. One for data only and one for power only so you can charge without syncing or sync without charging or plug both in and sync and charge.
Fortunately for me once its plugged in it tends to stay plugged in for the rest of the day.
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Thanks you so much for replying back. I don't have that option you mentioned but i downloaded a app that turns off usb charge. But thats a pain to do because it makes me mess with the registry everytime i want to turn that option off.
I would use bluetooth but i can't make my phone sync with my pc with it. I even created a thread asking for help but i got no awnser back http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7257183#post7257183
I am a bit lost here. Anyways thank you for the help. At least now i know that it isn't that risky, although sometimes i need to connect my phone to the pc for text messaging or any other stuff that doesn't take more than 10 minutes.
Damn i would love to sync my phone with pc via bluetooth or wi-fi..
Noob here, not the OP, but thanks for this info. I had no idea car charging was a bad thing. Will make a habit of charging from the USB in the future.
Hi again, just read your other post and I remember when I got my Omnia I had to use bluetooth sync as it did not come with a cable.
I used this http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?contentid=3163 guide.
I know it says Windows XP but once I had my phone set and I plugged my bluetooth dongle into my work machine and set the comm port it worked and that was Windows 7 also.
On the downside syncing via usb will suck your battery pretty quickly (about the same as being on a call)

[Q] [HELP]Phone will not charge

Today my Triumph seemed to be draining the battery faster than normal, though I was also making a lot more calls than normal. I have a cable plugged into my PC at work which I plugged into my phone but the driver install window didn't pop up like it normally does and my PC's network connection got very slow. I unplugged it and my PC connection was fine again. I left my phone unplugged for the most part after that though I did plug it in once or twice. I don't think it was ever truly recognized by my PC at work today (it has worked before) though I'm not certain.
When I was about to go home I noticed my phone was off. I knew it was low on battery so I assumed that it had turned off due to low battery. It couldn't have been off any more than 30-60 minutes. I didn't think it should have turned off already for low battery yet though.
I plugged it into my car charger and my phone refused to turn on. About 20 minutes later i unplugged my phone and the red charging light was still on. I had to pull the battery. I then turned on my phone and it was working, but low on battery.
About 45 minutes later I drove home with my phone plugged in, but I didn't check to see if the charging light was on. The phone was still on. When I got home I tried plugging in the phone and I noticed that it was not charging. It still isn't. I have tried the following:
Restarting phone
Plug in while it is turned off (charge light comes on but not charging animation, must pull battery for light to go off. phone will not start while plugged in or charge light is on)
Try plugging into computer rather than wall
Try car charger
Swap battery to stock battery (I use an Anker battery rather than the stock. I haven't used my stock battery for a few weeks to a month. It should have been fully charged but only had less than 50%) and try everything again with same results
Right now I have my Anker battery in which was nearly dead (below 10%) plugged into the wall with it off hoping it will charge. My phone is mostly stock other than I rooted it using the b_randon14's method, installed b_randon14's tweak mod, and flashed in the Sprint PRL using a method from howard forums with the 60681 version. I had links but had to remove them due to not previously posting on this forum.
I noticed the usb cable is not solid in the prot on my phone, but it never was and doesn't seem any different. For example I can move the cable back and forth a little bit while plugged in. It remains plugged in when I do this and while the phone is off it knows it is plugged in obviously. Any ideas?
Ok... I left it plugged in while off for an hour then it started working... very odd. Nevermind then I guess, lol.
Saw this thread, was going to suggest that. Your issue seems to be one that happens across all sorts of devices that have rechargeable batteries, even Android phones (and especially $&!t MP3 players that you'll find at K-Mart). I once made the mistake of buying a $30 MP3 player that refused to turn on once its battery dropped to a certain level. Twice. From K-Mart, of course.
Thank goodness for returns.
I am still having issues and it is really frustrating. Sometimes it will charge when on, some times it won't. The only thing I think MIGHT be common between when it does and doesn't work is how much battery is left. I think it might work more often when the battery is closer to a full charge. What I often do is plug in the phone, shut it off, it will charge but charging animation isn't there and I cannot turn it on until the charging animation shows up. I think it only shows up when the phone is fully charge or close to it (I've only ever seen it when it is fully charged).
Unfortunately I don't have a lot of concrete information on this as i haven't had much time to troubleshoot and verify any of my suspicions. I do know that USB Debugging has nothing to do with it and clearing my battery statistics didn't have any affect either. This issue is very frustrating and I believe are all software based, not hardware.
Any ideas or pointers?
Out of curiosity, have tried a different USB cable? I know that you talked about switching chargers, and I couldn't tell if this was just the base unit and you plugged the same cable in or, if it was a completely different charger and cable.
I have a wall charger with a usb cable at my office, a wall charger with a (different) usb cable at my house, and a car charger with its own non detachable usb cable. All have the same issue.

Why did it discharge, and why won't it charge anymore?

Two days ago, I turned my Infinity off and docked it. Both batteries were fully charged. A few hours ago I picked it up again, and the tablet wouldn't turn on.
I plugged it into the wall outlet. It started charging and I was able to turn on the device. It had 0% charge, and the batteries on the dock were also dead. What I don't understand is: how can the Infinity and the dock discharge completely in that time even though it was supposed to be off?
I left it plugged in so that I could use it while it charges. After some time, it asked me to connect the charger and then turned itself off due to almost dead batteries. Cable was still plugged in, though the charging light was off.
Tried connecting the cable to the dock, no light. Tried connecting the cable to my computer, it didn't work. So, the cable must be faulty, right? I can still turn the Infinity on, it'll boot normally and turn itself off after it's reached the lock screen. There's a red exclamation mark on the battery icon that wasn't there in the first time I turned it on, does it mean anything serious?
I had it drain to zero once overnight. Wasn't completely charged but it was strange... hasn't happened since in fact it generally has very good battery life.
I would definitely try a new cable and or charger.
Yeah, I've asked the store for a new cable. They'll have to mail it to me, so my tablet will stay dead for a few days. Now I know why propietary connectors suck.
Anyway, it seems I'm not the only one that had problems with the charger. Many people have reported overheating, but that never happened to me. The adapter that came with my Infinity seems to be a newer model; the plugs can't be folded or detached.
Charger: I had that happened several times to the SL101. Turned out I had something else plugged into the USB and the adapter was overloaded and tripped. Unplugged for a little while for it to cool down and reset itself.
What do you mean you had something else plugged into the USB?
Anyway, I've left my adapter alone for quite some time. I'll go see if it works as soon as I get home.
Beibin said:
What do you mean you had something else plugged into the USB?
Anyway, I've left my adapter alone for quite some time. I'll go see if it works as soon as I get home.
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I was charging a small 700 mAh battery through the USB. That was enough to trip the AC adapter.

xperia XZ charging problem

Hi, I am a novice in phone repairs though I have successfuly replaced the screen and charging ports on a samsung s6 and note 4.
I am requiring some expert advice on this problem, I was given an XZ from my friend with a cracked screen and charging problem, the charging port became temperamental and failing (at least I think it was that) and eventually wouldn't charge at all. The charging port was handled a bit harshly toward the end, for example the charging cable lifted up and down to try to get a charging response.
Anyway I ordered a screen/digitizer and charging port flex for it, and fitted them, following a guide. Before this, the phone had around 2% charge. After the repair, I switched it back on and conncted the charger, the screen was fine, however there was no response from the charger. The phone then ran flat and eventually ran flat enough to not be able to show the "low charge" symbol when the phone is off. Then after plugging and unplugging the cable (via USB in the pc) it would charge for what seemed a second then stop, the red charging notification light was lighting up. The same happened with a wall charger. I then stripped it back down and back together again. This time there was no response if I remember right, then I connected it to the wall charger and left it for 3 hours or so. I went back to it and it had charged up to 15%.
Now i'm at the point where the phone is working, it's on 90% now, but it charges very slowly, around 60-350 mA per hour on Ampere app. So a full charge is around 12+ hours. This is in the wall socket with a fast charger. Additionally, it takes 10 seconds for the phone to recognise the charger after is is plugged in and that is consistent each time I plug it in. The phone now isn't recognised by my PC via USB, and also won't charge that way also, it just doesn't do anything if I plug it in there. Other than that, the phone works and it holds its charge well.
Any ideas? Thank you.
2 Pics of battery app:
imgur.com/a/YnNtp
pick up an original sony charging cable - no idea why it makes such a difference, but.........
Hi, thanks for the reply, I bought a sony charger but it's still the same, drawing about 50-300 milliamps from wall charger, not recognised by PC and takes 10 secs exactly for the phone to recognise it's being charged. It's just odd how it stopped charging before the "fix", now the new flex lets it charge slowly. Can a battery problem cause this? It still holds its charge well. Maybe this problem is recognisable by some phone repair experts around here? any ideas?
Thanks
Noticed the phone only draws charge from a 3amp charger, anything less isn't recognized. And the power drawn from a 3amp can be 30-1000ma but averages around 300 ma. Can anybody point me to a hardware forum maybe? I can't find any, i guess it need taking to a phone expert but it's gonna end up costing more than its worth with the stuff i have done already.
Aukey Quickcharge 3.0 is working fine. It is cheap too.
I have just purchased a aukey charger, but my XZ seems to be taking longer to charge than the UH20 charger that came with my XZ. Any suggestions guys?
dibdin said:
I have just purchased a aukey charger, but my XZ seems to be taking longer to charge than the UH20 charger that came with my XZ. Any suggestions guys?
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Buy a UCH20
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Have you tried cleaning/replacing the charging port itself? As i see, you replaced only the flex cable.
There's probably extremely weak contact somewhere in the charging hardware i think, because you need 3.0 A charger to get any kind of charging response. Weaker current probably gets lost at that 'weak contact'.
Buying new chargers won't fix that if you ask me
I have exactly same problem with you
I am about to buy a new charger, yet I saw your post
At first I thought it was the cable. Then my cable work normal with other phone. So does my charger, it connect perfectly with other phone (xperia xz premium and xiaomi mi5)
It seems that our phoneis the only one who can'y charge normally.
I am quite depressed, also looking for solution. Mind if you share if you have succedeed? Thanks before
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Try plug in and plug out. My phone sometimes charge a normaxl. But need a lot of effort
Solved
Use the the detect usb in the notification keys before connecting the charger,, this will solve the fast recharging issues
Did you solved problem? I have same issue. Changed battery, usb-flex, no luck
Hi,
I have bought an used XZ.
The owner sold me this phone because he need new battery. I have replaced the old one after a week of test. The old battery works only for 6/10h and drain totally during night even if the phone is turned off. The new one have the same problem. I try to solve with an other battery, and nothing same problem. 12h of standby, after is totally drained. The strange thing is that I have the same battery life even when the phone is turned off, but not only this. If the phone is in 0% he charge without problem. If we have any % of battery I need to connect and disconnect the charger from a wall plug many and many times before he start charging. Phone give me the charge icon for a second and after nothing until I disconnect the charger from a wall plug(I have tested different charger and cable). During my investigation I have found that this phone results every time a little bit hot even if turned off. I have try to disconnect all is possibile, but the heat is from CPU! Now I know that this is the cause of fast discharging in all conditions.
Now I need to know if anyone with a "normal" unit feel the phone heat while turned off and while is on wich temperature have. Mine is every time on 34/35° in standby. Let me know,
thanks
i have same problem . sony xperia xz and sony corp is very very Rubbish
Hi Guys,
I found a way to charge my Xperia XZ with the same loop problem.
Try to push upper volume pad together with power button and plug in the charging cable.
Hold the buttons for 3-5 minutes - you will feel vibrating signals like 3 short and 1 long.
so hold it and then simply leave it for a several minutes and it should start to accept the charge.
Alex Kutikhin
Yes - I had this problem...fixed it by holding in POWER UP and OFF button for 120 seconds.
Do not let go...you will feel vibration (1 short, 3 short). Keep holding for 120 seconds.
Device should now be powered down. Plug in charger cable and leave device off until 100% charged.
Still no fix for the original post’s problem? Having the exact issue with my xzs right now.
lstic said:
Have you tried cleaning/replacing the charging port itself? As i see, you replaced only the flex cable.
There's probably extremely weak contact somewhere in the charging hardware i think, because you need 3.0 A charger to get any kind of charging response. Weaker current probably gets lost at that 'weak contact'.
Buying new chargers won't fix that if you ask me
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Thanks for the hint...
Old Thread, I know, but I encountered this issue today on an Sony X compact - F5321. Fixed it and want to report back for the next guy.
Same symptoms, noticed first a slow charge, phone was drawing low current and only responding to cable after 10 seconds of plugging in. I than checked for data connection, couldn’t get any. Opened it changed the USB port - BINGO - that fixed the issue, everything working nice.
TLTR: no Solution in Software, it’s a faulty USB-port. change it.
Have a nice day.

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