Is there any MicroUSB to AV TVout that can work on the ATT Infuse... i was to hook it up to my Double Din Pioneer Radio in my car. Is there any out there that u guys know of
lafastfords said:
Is there any MicroUSB to AV TVout that can work on the ATT Infuse... i was to hook it up to my Double Din Pioneer Radio in my car. Is there any out there that u guys know of
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More likely that you'd find something with HDMI in and AV out... Like this:
http://www.dinodirect.com/HDMI-to-VGA-3-RCA-Audio-Video-AV-Adapter-Cable-1-5M.html
how would that even work? hdmi carries a digital signal, and vga and rca an analog one.
The Jack of Clubs said:
how would that even work? hdmi carries a digital signal, and vga and rca an analog one.
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My guess is that some devices can repurpose the pins on their HDMI port to output component video or VGA instead.
I'm fairly certain our devices don't fit into this category.
im surprised ours can even fit hdmi into micro usb.
It's not a Micro USB port, it's an MHL port.
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oh i thought that was a brand. interesting. seems to have everything hdmi and usb. wonder why we bother with mini hdmi and pdmi.
Was anyone ever able to solve this?
My goal is to play the movies off of my Samsung Infuse in my Toyota Prius Plug In during long trips.
I found a company in Japan that sells a video in adapter for the Prius but its only a Composite RCA input (Yellow, Red, White).
That means I have to use the MHL adapter on my infuse, into an HDMI cable, into a video converter box, then composite rca's from the converter box to the Prius adapter.
or
MHL adapter connected to a HDMI/Composite RCA cable, then straight into the Prius adapter.
I dont know if this second option would work though. Do I need a converter to go from HDMI (digital) to composite (analog).
or
If I could actually use a micro usb to composite rca cable that would be ideal! A lot less parts but I bet this option would be the least likely to succeed.
Need help.
So I went and did some research into this. Here's what I found so that others can avoid the issue that I ran into.
MHL is connection agnostic. It does not have a standard connector, which is both good and bad.
The original Galaxy S II MHL adapter was a 5-pin design. Samsung still sells it, but there is no point in buying it (keep reading)
Samsung HDMI Smart Adapter - $39.99
Later products, like the S3, Note II, and S4 use the 11-pin design. Samsung also sells an adapter for this, but again, not worth buying (keep reading).
Samsung MHL HDTV Smart Adapter (11 pin) - $39.99
For those using the old 5-pin design (or a monitor/HDTV with native MHL support and a 5-pin cable), Samsung sells a 5 to 11 pin converter, which is smaller than a thumb drive. This is worth buying if you already have the 5-pin cable(s). Otherwise, keep reading.
Samsung HDTV Adapter Tip (5 to 11 pin converter) - $9.99
Next up, Samsung now sells a universal kit, which is a combination of the 5-pin cable and the 5 to 11 pin converter. This is the best deal for those with mixed devices as it will work with anything, and costs the same as the single cables (best deal, this is why you kept reading!).
Samsung Universal HDTV Adapter (5-pin) w.5-pin to 11-pin MHL Conversion Tip - $39.99
Lastly, Samsung now sells the MHL 2.0 adapter. My understanding is that this will ONLY work with 11-pin devices, so mixed-device owners may want to stick with the 5-pin + converter combo. However, MHL 2.0 does a few advantages over the prior spec. MHL can only pass 0.5a to charge the device while in use. This isn't enough to sustain a charge in most cases given that the screen remains on, so the device will eventually run out of juice even when plugged in. MHL 2.0 nearly doubles this to 0.9a, which is enough to run and slightly charge the device in most cases. Also, MHL is limited to [email protected] MHL 2.0 does [email protected]
Samsung MHL 2.0 HDTV Smart Adapter - $39.99
Keep in mind that while the S3/Note 2 can use this adapter, those devices are not MHL 2.0 compatible, which leads to the other advantage of MHL 2.0. The S4, being MHL 2.0 compliant, can power the adapter, meaning that an external charger is not needed. For the S3 and Note 2, the external charger will still be needed, because while the adapter is MHL 2.0 compliant, these devices are not.
Here's some more information on the subject.
http://blog.clove.co.uk/2013/03/28/which-mhl-cable-should-i-buy/
Do you have the 11pin adapter?
IamPro said:
Do you have the 11pin adapter?
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What I have is this:
http://www.expansys-usa.com/samsung-mhl-micro-usb-micro-hdmi-adapter-for-galaxy-s-ii-217883/
I'm guessing that I need this:
http://www.amazon.com/Original-Sams...59471&sr=8-1&keywords=samsung+5+pin+to+11+pin
I believe so
IamPro said:
I believe so
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What you really need is this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYX0Q-E31yk
I know for a fact that one works. I got mine on ebay actually, and was worried it might not be legit but it works for my s4 on any hdmi tv, without having to connect external power.
This is the one I bought: http://www.ebay.com/itm/271221429430?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
Cheaper, seemingly same one and more importantly it says: "no external power source needed"
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MHL-2-0-AV-...Phone_PDA_Cables_Adapters&hash=item3f272962c4
I know it sucks, but I've been through multiple adapters and had problems with all of them. Only a genuine s4 mhl adapter worked for me in an acceptable manner.
Updated OP with better information.
kudosmog said:
What you really need is this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYX0Q-E31yk
I know for a fact that one works. I got mine on ebay actually, and was worried it might not be legit but it works for my s4 on any hdmi tv, without having to connect external power.
This is the one I bought: http://www.ebay.com/itm/271221429430?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
Cheaper, seemingly same one and more importantly it says: "no external power source needed"
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MHL-2-0-AV-...Phone_PDA_Cables_Adapters&hash=item3f272962c4
I know it sucks, but I've been through multiple adapters and had problems with all of them. Only a genuine s4 mhl adapter worked for me in an acceptable manner.
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eBay one works properly like genuine? 1080p at 60fps?
As far as I remember yeah. I'll plug it up again and test. I was more concerned with it working without needing an external power supply, which it does. I played a few games on it and it was working without any disconnects or lag.
I've also not tried plugging my ps3 controller into the extra micro port to see if it will work through it. I assume it won't, but I'll try it anyway!
my query with these MHL adapters is with regards playing back 24p movies. touched on this in another thread. most mkv movies are 24p (actually 23.976). does the MHL 2.0 adapter ONLY output at 60p? or can it also output 24p? if the MHL 1.0 adapter does output 24p, then bizarrely it may playback 24p mkv files better...
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...also, can anyone confirm that these 2.0 adapters do actually pass charge to the s4 while attached? i don't mean whether they need a charge supply to operate, i mean if they actually charge the phone on their own when connected to the TV? there seem to be conflicting reports on this.
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my query with these MHL adapters is with regards playing back 24p movies. touched on this in another thread. most mkv movies are 24p (actually 23.976). does the MHL 2.0 adapter ONLY output at 60p? or can it also output 24p? if the MHL 1.0 adapter does output 24p, then bizarrely it may playback 24p mkv files better...
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...also, can anyone confirm that these 2.0 adapters do actually pass charge to the s4 while attached? i don't mean whether they need a charge supply to operate, i mean if they actually charge the phone on their own when connected to the TV? there seem to be conflicting reports on this.
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I can't confirm it, I don't have a TV that can do it but here's a list of the TV's that can supposedly provide a charge through the hdmi port: http://www.mhlconsortium.org/productlist/display-devices/
Normal HDMI ports won't pass power as far as I understand but an MHL compliant TV will.
I found these two adapters from MonoPrice. Will they work on my Microsoft Surface Pro?
Mini DisplayPort | Thunderbolt® to HDMI®, DVI & DisplayPort Adapter
Mini DisplayPort | Thunderbolt to VGA Adapter
gksmith said:
I found these two adapters from MonoPrice. Will they work on my Microsoft Surface Pro?
Mini DisplayPort | Thunderbolt® to HDMI®, DVI & DisplayPort Adapter
Mini DisplayPort | Thunderbolt to VGA Adapter
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Neither one as they are both thunderbolt plugs *NOT* mini display port, poor advertising on their part. A thunderbolt plug contains electrical signalling for both thunderbolt and mini display port but does not share the same physical connector.
SixSixSevenSeven said:
Neither one as they are both thunderbolt plugs *NOT* mini display port, poor advertising on their part. A thunderbolt plug contains electrical signalling for both thunderbolt and mini display port but does not share the same physical connector.
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One of the Apple FAQs I read indicated that DisplayPort will work with devices with a Thunderbolt port but not the other way around and that the wiring on Thunderbolt was bi-directional.
I was hoping to get a couple of adapters instead of a bunch of cables.
Just done some research. Thunderbolt and displayport sockets and plugs are very much related it turns out. The thunderbolt cable uses a displayport socket with additional contacts added in locations which shouldnt interfere with displayport wiring. So you should be able to plug a mini displayport straight into a thunderbolt socket, but you cannot necessarily plug a thunderbolt cable into a displayport, but a "thunderbolt" > HDMI adaptor would most likely just use the cheaper displayport plug for maximum compatibility. So it should work, but it might not, depends on whether the company is genuinely using a displayport plug or a thunderbolt plug.
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Just done some research. Thunderbolt and displayport sockets and plugs are very much related it turns out. The thunderbolt cable uses a displayport socket with additional contacts added in locations which shouldnt interfere with displayport wiring. So you should be able to plug a mini displayport straight into a thunderbolt socket, but you cannot necessarily plug a thunderbolt cable into a displayport, but a "thunderbolt" > HDMI adaptor would most likely just use the cheaper displayport plug for maximum compatibility. So it should work, but it might not, depends on whether the company is genuinely using a displayport plug or a thunderbolt plug.
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I spoke with MonoPrice and they claim they will work - I'm going to give it a try. If they don't work I'll ship them back. If they do, they are a nice alternative to the Microsoft ones which are pricey.
I'll post a review of the adapters when they come.
Now I'm searching for a AC charger for the unit. I need a spare and I don't want to pay the $80 Microsoft wants.
I use this one from amazon. its a good price and worked instantly out the package. very good quality picture and sound connection.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003XCVQ3C/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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I use this one from amazon. its a good price and worked instantly out the package. very good quality picture and sound connection.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003XCVQ3C/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Is there one like this W/ out audio?
ericerk said:
Is there one like this W/ out audio?
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Not sure what you mean. I plug my hdmi cable into the adapter and plug into tv. Video and sound is automatic. Now if the tv has a dvi port on back, you can get the display port to dvi adapter. Then I guess you'll have no sound then and have to route sound through headphone jack or so on the pro ?????
demandarin said:
Not sure what you mean. I plug my hdmi cable into the adapter and plug into tv. Video and sound is automatic. Now if the tv has a dvi port on back, you can get the display port to dvi adapter. Then I guess you'll have no sound then and have to route sound through headphone jack or so on the pro ?????
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The RT, Basically I'd want to plug it into my monitor (no speakers).
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The RT, Basically I'd want to plug it into my monitor (no speakers).
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These are for the pro not the RT. The RT does *not* have a display port. It has HDMI instead (which I also think the pro should have had, seriously, who the hell has a display port, I have *never* in my life seen one, plenty of HDMI, DVI and VGA ports though).
I dont have an HDMI device without speakers sadly so I dont know how windows would handle sound. But I do know that if you plug an HDMI device into windows, and then plug in separate speakers (USB or 3.5mm audio jack) then windows outputs to the external speakers by default. Or you can right click the audio icon on your system tray, Playback devices, change it so that the RT speakers are in use and not HDMI speakers or whatever.
If your monitor is not HDMI, you can buy an HDMI>DVI cable, or external HDMI>VGA adaptor units. Contrary to the above, DVI *DOES* contain audio, source: I have an NVidia GTX460 with twin DVI ports on the back, I have a DVI to HDMI cable which connects to the HDMI on my TV, there are no other speakers connected and no other cables between TV and GPU, I get audio from TV fine, therefore DVI must be carrying the audio signal just fine and dandy (and windows does indeed say that the audio device is a TOSHIBA HD TV or something like that).
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These are for the pro not the RT. The RT does *not* have a display port. It has HDMI instead (which I also think the pro should have had, seriously, who the hell has a display port, I have *never* in my life seen one, plenty of HDMI, DVI and VGA ports though).
I dont have an HDMI device without speakers sadly so I dont know how windows would handle sound. But I do know that if you plug an HDMI device into windows, and then plug in separate speakers (USB or 3.5mm audio jack) then windows outputs to the external speakers by default. Or you can right click the audio icon on your system tray, Playback devices, change it so that the RT speakers are in use and not HDMI speakers or whatever.
If your monitor is not HDMI, you can buy an HDMI>DVI cable, or external HDMI>VGA adaptor units. Contrary to the above, DVI *DOES* contain audio, source: I have an NVidia GTX460 with twin DVI ports on the back, I have a DVI to HDMI cable which connects to the HDMI on my TV, there are no other speakers connected and no other cables between TV and GPU, I get audio from TV fine, therefore DVI must be carrying the audio signal just fine and dandy (and windows does indeed say that the audio device is a TOSHIBA HD TV or something like that).
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I Think I need to go back to kindergarden and learn how to read again, I'm missing everything...
SixSixSevenSeven said:
These are for the pro not the RT. The RT does *not* have a display port. It has HDMI instead (which I also think the pro should have had, seriously, who the hell has a display port, I have *never* in my life seen one, plenty of HDMI, DVI and VGA ports though).
I dont have an HDMI device without speakers sadly so I dont know how windows would handle sound. But I do know that if you plug an HDMI device into windows, and then plug in separate speakers (USB or 3.5mm audio jack) then windows outputs to the external speakers by default. Or you can right click the audio icon on your system tray, Playback devices, change it so that the RT speakers are in use and not HDMI speakers or whatever.
If your monitor is not HDMI, you can buy an HDMI>DVI cable, or external HDMI>VGA adaptor units. Contrary to the above, DVI *DOES* contain audio, source: I have an NVidia GTX460 with twin DVI ports on the back, I have a DVI to HDMI cable which connects to the HDMI on my TV, there are no other speakers connected and no other cables between TV and GPU, I get audio from TV fine, therefore DVI must be carrying the audio signal just fine and dandy (and windows does indeed say that the audio device is a TOSHIBA HD TV or something like that).
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The reason for display port is its the newer high standard in media transfer or whatever. Hdmi "supposedly" tops out at 1080p content. Display port can put out 4k or higher content. All or most apple devices use display port also. Its just including the latest and greatest like the pro usb 3.0 port.
Display port is a higher functioning port than just plain hdmi. For example hdmi does not support daisy chain devices but display port does. This means you can run multiple displays from a single port, with the right adapter.
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Neither one as they are both thunderbolt plugs *NOT* mini display port, poor advertising on their part. A thunderbolt plug contains electrical signalling for both thunderbolt and mini display port but does not share the same physical connector.
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gksmith said:
I found these two adapters from MonoPrice. Will they work on my Microsoft Surface Pro?
Mini DisplayPort | Thunderbolt® to HDMI®, DVI & DisplayPort Adapter
Mini DisplayPort | Thunderbolt to VGA Adapter
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I forgot to come back and post my results. Both adapters work just fine. They appear to be 100% compatible with the Surface Pro.:good:
demandarin said:
The reason for display port is its the newer high standard in media transfer or whatever. Hdmi "supposedly" tops out at 1080p content. Display port can put out 4k or higher content. All or most apple devices use display port also. Its just including the latest and greatest like the pro usb 3.0 port.
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Hmm, the new Haswell based Dell's we got at work are all Display Port based. I guess it's something we're going to see more and more of. The new video card I got for my PC at home also came with Display Port along with all the other types.
DisplayPort appears to be intended more for the computer industry (for connecting to computer monitors, primarily), while HDMI appears to be intended more for most other consumer electronics (for connecting to TVs, primarily). I imagine that Microsoft figured that the Pro would more likely be used for real work, including in business environments, so DisplayPort made more sense, whereas the RT is more of a personal media consumption device (the kind that you use in front of the TV), so HDMI made more sense.
demandarin said:
The reason for display port is its the newer high standard in media transfer or whatever. Hdmi "supposedly" tops out at 1080p content. Display port can put out 4k or higher content. All or most apple devices use display port also. Its just including the latest and greatest like the pro usb 3.0 port.
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FWIW, the new HDMI 2.0 spec (I believe announced a few days after your post) supports 4K content. We ought to start seeing products with it by the end of the year.
Just an FYI but display port and thunderbolt both support daisy chaining devices, HDMI does not. This means you can attach multiple monitors to a single display port with the correct adapter.
HDMI is limited to a single output. You can amplify and split the output but it will not allow multiple independent displays.
I would much rather have a display port than an HDMI port.
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I still have never in my life seen a display with displayport as an option here in the UK with my own eyes.
I can confirm that I have both of these adapters, and they work just fine with my Surface Pro.
gksmith said:
I found these two adapters from MonoPrice. Will they work on my Microsoft Surface Pro?
Mini DisplayPort | Thunderbolt® to HDMI®, DVI & DisplayPort Adapter
Mini DisplayPort | Thunderbolt to VGA Adapter
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SixSixSevenSeven said:
I still have never in my life seen a display with displayport as an option here in the UK with my own eyes.
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HP sells 24" monitors with display port and DVI connections. They sell these globally.
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Hi, I'm thinking of purchasing a Tab S 10.5 and also looking for an MHL to VGA adapter that works for the tab. Does anyone know of any that work?
The approach that I took was to get the Samsung MHL to HDMI adapter and then plug an HDMI to VGA adapter into that. The Belkin HDMI to VGA adapter (AV10145BT) works well.
I had first tried a Startech HD2VGAMICRO adapter but it would not work. I went to BestBuy and they let me try the Belkin adapter with my tablet and one of their monitors. It worked so I bought it.
Pete.
PeteAlleman said:
The approach that I took was to get the Samsung MHL to HDMI adapter and then plug an HDMI to VGA adapter into that. The Belkin HDMI to VGA adapter (AV10145BT) works well.
I had first tried a Startech HD2VGAMICRO adapter but it would not work. I went to BestBuy and they let me try the Belkin adapter with my tablet and one of their monitors. It worked so I bought it.
Pete.
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Hi - so you have this working? did you have to do anything special to get this working? like press buttons/settings on the Tab?
I brought the same adaptors as above and all I get is a blank screen! I then disconnected the HDMI-VGA part and tried using the MHL-HDMI into my PS screen and it still was blank
DynamicDusa said:
Hi - so you have this working? did you have to do anything special to get this working? like press buttons/settings on the Tab?
I brought the same adaptors as above and all I get is a blank screen! I then disconnected the HDMI-VGA part and tried using the MHL-HDMI into my PS screen and it still was blank
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Just plugged it in and it worked. I tried it on several projectors and monitors. It worked on an old 1024x768 projector and various 1080p monitors and projectors.
There are several models of Samsung MHL to HDMI adapters. I have model # ET-H10FAUWESTA. That might make a difference.
Pete.
i bought THIS one on Amazon and it works fine
fletch33 said:
i bought THIS one on Amazon and it works fine
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Billant guys thanks!
@fletch33 thanks for the link - with that cable do you have to have it plug it into the USB charger as well to get it working? or does it work without...
One Option I have Tried
DozerD88 said:
Hi, I'm thinking of purchasing a Tab S 10.5 and also looking for an MHL to VGA adapter that works for the tab. Does anyone know of any that work?
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I have successfully connected my Tab S 10.5 LTE to a VGA projector. I purchased a Samsung HDTV Adapter that was designed for the S4 phone. I plugged the micro usb connector into the Tab S. I then connected a generic HDMI to VGA converter to the HDTV adapter. The HDMI to VGA converter I purchased has an audio output jack so you can connect speakers. The adapter is able to get the audio directly from the HDMI port. One thing you need to know is that the HDTV Adapter requires you to plug in the power cable that comes with your tablet. You could also plug the USB cable into a battery pack if you want to make it truly portable. Good luck!
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PeteAlleman said:
Just plugged it in and it worked. I tried it on several projectors and monitors. It worked on an old 1024x768 projector and various 1080p monitors and projectors.
There are several models of Samsung MHL to HDMI adapters. I have model # ET-H10FAUWESTA. That might make a difference.
Pete.
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I went to a Samsung store and asked which HDMI adapter would work with a Tab S. They told me to use the HDTV Adapter that was designed for the Galaxy S4 phone (Model: ET-H10FAUWEGWW). I purchased the adapter at the shop and tried it on my Tab S. It works! I also plugged in a generic HDMI to VGA converter to it and was able to connect to a VGA projector. There is an audio output jack on the HDMI to VGA converter and it successfully sent the audio to the plugged-in speakers.
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PeteAlleman said:
Just plugged it in and it worked. I tried it on several projectors and monitors. It worked on an old 1024x768 projector and various 1080p monitors and projectors.
There are several models of Samsung MHL to HDMI adapters. I have model # ET-H10FAUWESTA. That might make a difference.
Pete.
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I am from India cannot buy ET-H10FAUWESTA cause it is not sold here suggest me another .Please
How did you do it?? I have the same adapter an it didnt work