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Just curious as the thought had run through my head (I'm always looking for something new to try) - is anyone going to return their MT4G and go back to the dark side of M$ ?
I'd say the chances of me doing it are extremely low though, as this phone actually is the first I've been completely happy with in a long time.
I'm very happy with this phone. Even everything stock simply works well. Battery time is excellent and that is the most important to me.
I'm 50/50 in trading for the HD7.. but I'm concerned the battery will not get me thru a whole day with heavy use.
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Yea I'm leaning toward the HD7 this week. Although I don't think I would root it (MyTouch4G) even with permanent root. Phone is pretty complete. Makes me wanna see if HD7 can top it.
The HD7 is a fantastic device. I think a lot of folks are wrong in their premature dismissal of WP7. Microsoft has done a great job with WP7's UX and I definitely suggest actually trying it before automatically assuming it's crap just because it's made by MS.
Having said that, WP7 is going to take some time to mature. Many of our favorite apps won't be ported/rewritten right away. That's what holds me back from switching. I also want my free GPS (which WP7 doesn't have) and copy-paste before I'll even consider WP7.
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Definitely not as I am very impressed with my mytouch 4g. Please don't take offense but I honestly don't understand why anyone would get the HD7. I would much rather get the Dell Venue Pro which brings something new to the table; the HD7 is basically a HD2 with a new chassis, kickstand, and WP7. For people that are assuming that games on WP7 are going to be incredible, this likely won't be the case for these first gen devices which all have adreno 200 (a pretty bad integrated GPU).
No offense taken at all - actually your responses are educating me a bit Plus swaying me more and more to stay with Android for the time being.
Keep em coming!
What about open source maaan. You gotta go with Android. It's more fun for nerds like us. Besides, what ever happened to MS is evil?
No I'm good and done with Windows Mobile phones! Android is the future!
I'm sure android could be ported to the hd7 eventually.
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I'm sure android could be ported to the hd7 eventually.
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The first generation processor makes it a bad decision like the person mentioned above. the processor on the myt4g is sick. On par if not better than the hummingbird. (debatable)
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The first generation processor makes it a bad decision like the person mentioned above. the processor on the myt4g is sick. On par if not better than the hummingbird. (debatable)
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Is it indeed the first generation snapdragon and not the same as the one we have?
The processor in the MTG4G is the same one in the G2, only clocked at 1ghz, instead of 800mhz.
The processor in the HD7 is the first gen snapdragon. Essentially, the hardware in the HD7 is all old tech. The only thing it has going for it is WP7. If I could get the Samsung Omnia 7 on T-Mobile, then I might have thought about going WP7, since I think that is a beautiful device. But still, give WP7 about a year to mature. That is my opinion anyways.
i thought about it from a media player standpoint i think the music player on WP7 phones might be just a lil better but ill wait it out still waiting on Google Music Service
I had a brain fart and considered going to look and play with the HD7 today. I was getting ready to go, but decided to check the forums to see if anyone was "in love" with there phone or saying it's the best thing ever. I didn't see any of that, just questions and problems. The day I got this phone we were all over bragging about it to eachother. It's a week later almost and I like this phone more today than the day I bought it.
I would never go back to MSFT for anything. (Well unless it's free, then I might consider it before I trashed it)
Screw that... windows fail phone with a 1st gen 1ghz snapdragon. I'll stick to my MyTouch4G
Sticking to the MT4G
Like a Few ppl said in the post above, 1st gen snapdragon CPU 512MB of ram NTY... i will stick to my MT4G with a 2nd Gen snapdragon and 768MB of ram
I would like to give the phone a try(that when my mom buy it) but other than that i would hold off on it
I bought my MT4G on sunday but while in the store they had the hd7 turned on and playing with it and i checked it out before i bought my MT4G i spent prolly a good 20 to 30 minutes messin with it cause there was a line and i was waiting to buy my phone and honestly i can say that i was extremely impressed with the phone. The interface was extremely clean and quick, a little confusing at first but the more you play with it the easier it gets.The interface is pretty much just like the zune hd interface. The looks of the phone were actually the biggest draw to the phone. Its an incredibly sweet looking phone. But at the end of the wait though, as impressive as it was it wasnt impressive enough for me to give up on getting android and the MT4G.
Why would u even want to consider returning this phone I gotta say never been so satisfied with a device like this in AWHILE. Like the other person said the hd7 is just a replica of the hd2 which I owned too and is nothing to be blown away by either. Android ftw!!!
I bought an hd2 and wasnt happy with it so I took it back and swapped it out for a mt4g and I cant believe how much better android is. For a while I couldnt decide if I should wait a bit and get the hd7 or get this phone. I played with an hd7 at the tmobile store. Couldnt get the supposed stereo speakers to work, and those 2 vents just seemed like they would get clogged with this after 1 single day of use. Aside from the metal ring around the front it felt identical to the hd2. Tell me what u guys think about the kickstand, I would never use it and it just feels cheap, like it will over time not stay shut and catch on your pocket etc. dont get me wrong, the screen is huge and the think just looks and feels really expensive. Played with it for about 3-4 min and that used used 3% of the battery which is also just like the hd2, they neeed to jam a 1600 in there stock at least or what good is all the eye candy if you find yourself disabling it all to get through one day if use. The OS is cool. Screen is big. Thats just my opinion but based on battery life and the fact that its windows I wouldnt buy it. It cant even copy/paste on release day are you serious?
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The first generation processor makes it a bad decision like the person mentioned above. the processor on the myt4g is sick. On par if not better than the hummingbird. (debatable)
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this is one big tipping point for me...but then again -WP7 is designed specifically to that driver so it is said to work just as fast or just about.... idk?
Well, after 3 weeks of trying the Inspire and Atrix, at the end of the day I am back on the Captivate! I think the AT&T store are sick of me becuase I got the Inspire then returned it for the Atrix, then returned the Atrix for the Inspire. Why? Sound quality, video quality, size, screen quality, buttons and ease of use.
So thats my 2c.
It is interesting to see how many people also own, or have all, all three devices.
Note that my Captivate has a custom ROM.
Lol, As much as people diss the captivate it's hard to find another android phone that can match it.
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Do all your reason apply to both the Atrix and the Inspire?
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Do all your reason apply to both the Atrix and the Inspire?
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I returned the Inspire because of all of those reasons, but the Atrix had even more problems than that.
I had the atrix...it may be better on paper but I'll stick with the captivate
You guys are all smoking bad crack. The captivate blows. Down with samsung
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I got my Atrix, and no way am I going back to my Captivate full time... I'll miss the Captivate's screen, but in the end, the Atrix is a superior phone. Just waiting for my unlock code now so I can actually use it on my carrier, but damn, its insanely fast! Still keeping my Captivate for backup purposes and to satisfy my flashing addiction.
One thing I wish manufacturers would include, dual sim slots... Then I wouldn't need 2 separate phones, one for home and one for work... Seems simple enough and wouldn't be very costly to add, considering all the cheap Chinese knockoff phones come with dual and even triple (dual GSM and a single CDMA) sim slots which all work simultaneously.
Other than that and the inferior screen compared to the Captivate, it's pretty hard to complain about the Atrix, I hope the devs get around the bootloader or Motorola finally caves in and decides to let us unlock it if we chose to (like the Xoom), but I won't complain if it doesn't happen... I can get rid of the stock launcher easily and replace it with Launcher Pro Plus, Zeam or ADW, which is really my only complaint about Blur. I'm happy it doesn't include Gingerbread yet, as it's still quite buggy and really doesn't offer much over Froyo anyways... Besides, that leaves at least 1 update that will arrive soonish where Motorola may throw in the bootloader unlock if people complain enough. ... Of course I won't be holding my breath, but it would be nice.
Overall, I'm happy with my purchase, I'll put it through more rigorous testing in the coming weeks after I get my unlock code, I'm sure it'll perform just fine though.
I went into the store to play with the Atrix...To be honext it is an nice speedy phone. BUT with a custom rom (paragon 6.0) I did not really notice that much speed difference. I enjoy the captivate's screen MUCH more than the Atrix. Benchmarks I have seen, in some cases the Galaxy S comes out over the Atrix. I am sure when dual core is optimized via the o/s that will change, but for now...I am sticking with the captivate. I know many are down on Samsung, but i must say a Galaxy S 2 with the tegra 2 looks very tasty to me...
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I went into the store to play with the Atrix...To be honext it is an nice speedy phone. BUT with a custom rom (paragon 6.0) I did not really notice that much speed difference. I enjoy the captivate's screen MUCH more than the Atrix. Benchmarks I have seen, in some cases the Galaxy S comes out over the Atrix. I am sure when dual core is optimized via the o/s that will change, but for now...I am sticking with the captivate. I know many are down on Samsung, but i must say a Galaxy S 2 with the tegra 2 looks very tasty to me...
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I'd be all over the Galaxy S 2 if it still had a 4" screen (and possibly a higher resolution), but the 4.3" screen is the deal breaker for me. Yes, I realize that the screen's quality is far superior to the Atrix's, but when all things are considered, the Atrix makes up for it in raw specs and awesome accessories...
The Captivate is already huge for a phone (in my opinion), I can't imagine using anything bigger than that. Thickness isn't a big concern for me (I don't see why people are so obsessed with how thin phones are, a mm or 2 really doesn't make a huge difference... But meh, to each his/her own), but the overall height and width is what really bothers me, at 125mm (~5"), it's huge compared to the Atrix's 117mm (~4.5") or even the Captivate's 121mm (~4.7")...
I'm more interested to see how well Samsung's dual core Exynos processor performs than the Tegra 2 on the Galaxy S 2, knowing how snappy the Hummingbird currently is and how long it kept the performance crown, I have no doubts that the Exynos will be able to hold its own against, and possibly even beat the Tegra 2.
And yes, I completely agree, until we see some optimizations in the OS and apps for dual core SOCs, there really won't be a huge difference between single and dual cores in terms of performance... Thankfully, Tegra 2 optimized apps and games are starting to pop up on the Market, so it's only a matter of time. Benchmarks really aren't a good way to measure performance between single and dual cores, they're not very accurate with single cores either (they vary greatly between different kernels, yet real world performance remains the same), so I take synthetic benchmark results with a grain of salt.
Either way, dual cores are still very much in their infancy, it can only get better from here, and if past phones are any indication, we're in for a hell of a year in terms of Android goodness.
Well I have played with an Evo, 4.3 inch screen, and I can handle it pretty nicely in my hands. I can't imagine much bigger though for a phone myself.
Phones and basically netbooks now. Not quite up to the power a laptop, but soon that will change. I do like the docks for the Atrix, but do not really want to pay $500 for it. I can get a good laptop for the price now. I want portable power in a small package.
I would say that the tegra will have a slight advantage only on the fact that there will be more software optimized to run on it most likely. Nvida is a big company imop that leads the pc gpu market.
Certainly going to be a GREAT YEAR for 'smartphones'...(almost think the name needs to change soon...
I have the captivate and nexus one right now, had the Atrix when it came out but took it back.
now I only use the Captivare to either play games or as a backup if the Nexus 1 dies on me.
Played with an atrix. Couldn't find a justification to buy it. Not very impressive. Liked the inspire more, but still not enough to give up the captivate
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You guys are all smoking bad crack. The captivate blows. Down with samsung
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it blows so much you have to spend time in our forum instead of the streaks...oh wait there isn't much to see in the streak forum is there
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Well, after 3 weeks of trying the Inspire and Atrix, at the end of the day I am back on the Captivate! I think the AT&T store are sick of me becuase I got the Inspire then returned it for the Atrix, then returned the Atrix for the Inspire. Why? Sound quality, video quality, size, screen quality, buttons and ease of use.
So thats my 2c.
It is interesting to see how many people also own, or have all, all three devices.
Note that my Captivate has a custom ROM.
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No wonder there are so many "refurbs" out there...
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i was going to get the Atrix because of the lapdock but i read its not very functional as for the trackpad and a bit too pricey. still happy with my cappy, good thing we have developers busy making our captivate better everyday, since at&t is too busy with the iphone
For the first 4 months, I hated it. For the next 2, I thought it was alright. Since then it grew on me.
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For the first 4 months, I hated it. For the next 2, I thought it was alright. Since then it grew on me.
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Mikey, that was almost complimentary. You must be in a good mood for a change.
there are so many of these threads and soo many people have things they like about the captivate over there other phone. i messed with the atrix and like the webtop view but wish it did more than run firefox and web apps. it would be great if the phone view could be opened in multiple windows having all the active apps open at the same time if you wish but i guess you cant get everything. also a full text editor would be cool. i know it has office apps but a more desktop worthy app would be awesome in the webtop. but hearing that the inspire and atrix have lesser call quality makes me shy away from the atrix. the call quality is one of the best things about the captivate. plus the atrix does look a bit cheap with the back cover though i am gealous of the fingerprint reader and hdmi port.
now i want to put ubuntu on my phone so i can out do the atrix in the "hey my phone is a computer" catagory. my graphics benchmarks are already better. now we just need to find someone who can write a driver to get hdmi out from the usb port... hmmm i need to get my brother to stop playing wow, quit his night job and dev for android..
My friend bought and HD7, and as I played with it, the same charm the captivate had when I first saw it was pretty much non-existant. The Captivate is anything but perfect, but it is also anything but terrible. Oh, and it looks really bad ass too
Hi there, im just wondering which phone is more future proof, i MIGHT be getting rid of 1 of them so i need 2 know which 1 i should keep. Which one of the phones is more future proof in terms of gaming?
By future proof i mean i dont want 2 upgrade in 2 years when my contract ends, i want the phone for about 3 yrs atleast.
I know Galaxy S2 has 4G and a bigger screen but on the other side of the coin the iphone 4S has a better graphics chip(dont know how much by) and i know games are always continually developed for iphones....hard decision, someone please help me make one lol
I want facts not just fanboy opinions for either device. 10 points best answer.
P.S: I already know that Andoid has less apps/games but most the ones i play are on Android.. so that particular issue aint really an issue for me.
I also want a phone that will continue running super smooth over the time also...the reason why i have both is because something about the largeness of the galaxy s2 screen keeps me coming back 2 it, but the games seem 2 run smoother on iPhone so its a hard decision
1. If i not mistaken Galaxy S2 has been awarded "The Phone of the Year",
2. S2 is more durable when come to drop test, you can easily find relevant video on youtube.
3. S2 has 1GB RAM, I4 has only 512MB, my guess is program run smoother on S2
4. Android Platform can multitask, I4 can't
5. Camera on S2 is 8MP while I4 is only 5MP.
6. S2 support 1080p while I4 support 720p
That all i can think of for the moment...
Definitely the s2. There's just more you can squeeze out of it in terms of gaming performance.
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I have to go with the Galaxy S2. Its just so nice looking.
lol are u guys just android fanboys?
gaming performance apparently the iphone 4s beats the galaxy s2 in gaming benchmarks..so how could u squeeze more out of it??
You didn't mention what iPhone you have. Anyway assuming it's at least an iPhone4 then you can bet your ass on it: iPhone all the way. It's not a matter of hardware, it's a matter of optimization: Modern Combat 2 runs much better on a 3gs rather than on an overclocked SGS2, just go on youtube and see it yourself. Every iOS game has better textures and better smoothness compared to its Android counterpart, regardless the hardware you're running it on; just have a look at some youtube game reviews and compare: it's really easy to see. Even Shadowgun, designed to take advantage of dualcore cpus still runs better on the iPhone4 rather that on my SGS2 which is tweaked like hell. There is no comparison: also, if i had to pick an Android right now mainly for gaming purposes (which is imho a bad idea anyway) i'd go for a Tegra device: sure they have their flaws and are overall slower compared to the Exynos chipset, but if you only care about games Nvidia makes good drivers and i'm pretty sure there is much headroom for improving the performance of this soc in terms of gaming.
On the other hand, talking about real life usage and overall performance and functionality the SGS2 is a much better device compared to the iPhone4, even slightly ahead of the 4s. Think about it, is it really worth it to pick up a device just because of the "gaming factor"? Not really imho. At the end of the day iPhones have more or less the same price of a decent desktop gaming rig: does it really have sense to throw so much money on a phone, if you really love games? Wouldn't you spend that money otherwise?
Edit: woops i missed the "s" in your post.
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You didn't mention what iPhone you have. Anyway assuming it's at least an iPhone4 then you can bet your ass on it: iPhone all the way. It's not a matter of hardware, it's a matter of optimization: Modern Combat 2 runs much better on a 3gs rather than on an overclocked SGS2, just go on youtube and see it yourself. Every iOS game has better textures and better smoothness compared to its Android counterpart, regardless the hardware you're running it on; just have a look at some youtube game reviews and compare: it's really easy to see. Even Shadowgun, designed to take advantage of dualcore cpus still runs better on the iPhone4 rather that on my SGS2 which is tweaked like hell. There is no comparison: also, if i had to pick an Android right now mainly for gaming purposes (which is imho a bad idea anyway) i'd go for a Tegra device: sure they have their flaws and are overall slower compared to the Exynos chipset, but if you only care about games Nvidia makes good drivers and i'm pretty sure there is much headroom for improving the performance of this soc in terms of gaming.
On the other hand, talking about real life usage and overall performance and functionality the SGS2 is a much better device compared to the iPhone4, even slightly ahead of the 4s. Think about it, is it really worth it to pick up a device just because of the "gaming factor"? Not really imho. At the end of the day iPhones have more or less the same price of a decent desktop gaming rig: does it really have sense to throw so much money on a phone, if you really love games? Wouldn't you spend that money otherwise?
Edit: woops i missed the "s" in your post.
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i actually did state what device i had... the 4S
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You didn't mention what iPhone you have. Anyway assuming it's at least an iPhone4 then you can bet your ass on it: iPhone all the way. It's not a matter of hardware, it's a matter of optimization: Modern Combat 2 runs much better on a 3gs rather than on an overclocked SGS2, just go on youtube and see it yourself. Every iOS game has better textures and better smoothness compared to its Android counterpart, regardless the hardware you're running it on; just have a look at some youtube game reviews and compare: it's really easy to see. Even Shadowgun, designed to take advantage of dualcore cpus still runs better on the iPhone4 rather that on my SGS2 which is tweaked like hell. There is no comparison: also, if i had to pick an Android right now mainly for gaming purposes (which is imho a bad idea anyway) i'd go for a Tegra device: sure they have their flaws and are overall slower compared to the Exynos chipset, but if you only care about games Nvidia makes good drivers and i'm pretty sure there is much headroom for improving the performance of this soc in terms of gaming.
On the other hand, talking about real life usage and overall performance and functionality the SGS2 is a much better device compared to the iPhone4, even slightly ahead of the 4s. Think about it, is it really worth it to pick up a device just because of the "gaming factor"? Not really imho. At the end of the day iPhones have more or less the same price of a decent desktop gaming rig: does it really have sense to throw so much money on a phone, if you really love games? Wouldn't you spend that money otherwise?
Edit: woops i missed the "s" in your post.
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I dont buy a phone just for gaming, i want an all round, best featured phone with gaming as a major part of it but i also want a phone that will atleast last me 2-3 years without NEEDING an upgrade. iphones are closed soure and i dont use itunes i purchase my music from other sources so android seems 2 be the go, but then why is iphone so popular and why do games/updates come out on them first usually?
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I dont buy a phone just for gaming, i want an all round, best featured phone with gaming as a major part of it but i also want a phone that will atleast last me 2-3 years without NEEDING an upgrade. iphones are closed soure and i dont use itunes i purchase my music from other sources so android seems 2 be the go, but then why is iphone so popular and why do games/updates come out on them first usually?
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All in all it's a matter of personal preference: if you keep the GS2 now you probably won't *need* (unless you don't wanna use a case for it) an upgrade: the phone will still be overall fully functional and usable but i'm pretty sure that many console quality games coming out next year or so will lag on it, and probably software wise don't expect to go further than ICS...also, the lack of optimization within the Android platform makes you need better hardware in order to run the games that will be baked for the A5 chipset, wich is greatly superior to Exynos (about twice as powerful). Long story short this is what i mean: the phone itself won't be outdated soon, but the gaming part will take a severe hit quite soon (imho), because most of the games coming out will be first of all designed for the 4s, so they will obviously look worse on every other phone available at the moment. You will see that already when MC3 will hit the Android market: people will start complaining for the lag and the crappier textures compared to the iPad2/iPhone4s version.
Why do games come out on iOS first? This is pretty self explanatory: when developing a console quality game you have to take full advantage of the hardware of each device the said game will be released for. Doing this for nearly each Android device will be way too expensive for the software houses, and their income wouldn't improve much either: iPhone is still the most sold phone on Earth after all, and all together i'm pretty sure that Apple outsells Android talking about higher end devices, and games are meant mainly for those, so go figure... You also have to take into account that also the software differs quite a lot through androids, and i honestly don't know how well ICS will address this issue, we'll see. Another show stopper for devs is the fact that Android is easily hackable, so it's almost pointless to sell expensive high grade games on it. This said you're still right when you say that iOS is really locked down, but this is actually the price you have to pay for an unmatched software optimization. Oh, and about the iTunes thing, you don't need to buy music from itunes if you have an iPhone, just add the one you have to the library. Also, if you're an audiophile please note that the GS2 is very average (basically it sounds like a mid range phone) as a media player, while the 4s delivers much better sound quality.
the thing about the iphone's tho is that its a really small screen. so when playing mc3 i have 2 squint 2 see. whats the point on having console quality if its only on a small screen?
also, the gs2 has more RAM, double what iphone 4s has, that is another thing that gets me... but u are helping me a make decision.
To be honest, i dont think MC3 on the GS2 will be too much different graphically then it is on iPhone... thats why its not released yet, cos they need 2 optimize it for each and every android device hat is capable of playing it. All the faster GPU does is account for faster rendering, not better textures
i know you dont have 2 purchase music through itunes... but then u NEED a pc or laptop 2 be able 2 add the songs 2 the official music player library and playlists...do you not?
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the thing about the iphone's tho is that its a really small screen. so when playing mc3 i have 2 squint 2 see. whats the point on having console quality if its only on a small screen?
also, the gs2 has more RAM, double what iphone 4s has, that is another thing that gets me... but u are helping me a make decision.
To be honest, i dont think MC3 on the GS2 will be too much different graphically then it is on iPhone... thats why its not released yet, cos they need 2 optimize it for each and every android device hat is capable of playing it. All the faster GPU does is account for faster rendering, not better textures
i know you dont have 2 purchase music through itunes... but then u NEED a pc or laptop 2 be able 2 add the songs 2 the official music player library and playlists...do you not?
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Yeah i know, infact i got the GS2 because i wanted a big, badass amoled screen and didn't care too much about games. Audio quality was a big let down to me tho, i was expecting it to sound at least as good as the SGS, which was really boss. Actually i tried to play MC2 on a friend's iPhone a while ago and the screen felt like a joke, but i got big hands, so that might have been just me. I really hope MC3 will be good, but i'm not very optimistic because MC2 was delayed too and was still quite rushed when it came out, and right now the Android version still has poorer textures. But who knows after all: Tintin came out in two different versions, for both high and low end devices, so there might be hope.
Talking about music afaik there isn't a way to load it on an iPhone without a pc, but i'm not really into iOS (as many here) so i'm not sure, maybe you can if you're jailbroken.
None of the above
Quad cores phones (HTC Edge) already made it on the stage, so that means everything dual core and single core will be obsolete or abandoned soon after, probably in a year or two
and there's no such thing as futureproof
when i7 CPU extreme black edition was the top of the line 3~4 years ago, now has been far surpassed by its younger brothers with 12 cores 2 years later (from 8 cores...)
so, just buy what you can afford today, and what you like best today.
if you are not in a hurry to get a new phone, then wait for as long as you can wait before getting a new phone, because 3 months down the row, a new and better phone is waiting for you
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Hi there, im just wondering which phone is more future proof, i MIGHT be getting rid of 1 of them so i need 2 know which 1 i should keep. Which one of the phones is more future proof in terms of gaming?
By future proof i mean i dont want 2 upgrade in 2 years when my contract ends, i want the phone for about 3 yrs atleast.
I know Galaxy S2 has 4G and a bigger screen but on the other side of the coin the iphone 4S has a better graphics chip(dont know how much by) and i know games are always continually developed for iphones....hard decision, someone please help me make one lol
I want facts not just fanboy opinions for either device. 10 points best answer.
P.S: I already know that Andoid has less apps/games but most the ones i play are on Android.. so that particular issue aint really an issue for me.
I also want a phone that will continue running super smooth over the time also...the reason why i have both is because something about the largeness of the galaxy s2 screen keeps me coming back 2 it, but the games seem 2 run smoother on iPhone so its a hard decision
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My example
i switched phone provider, i needed a new phone, there was nothing decent at the time, i was forced to pick up the Nexus S with all its downside
so now that the SGS2 finally made its way, i switched to it right away, because that's the phone that can actually accomplish what i needed to do
but say for example if the Nexus S was able to meet all my needs, i wouldn't have bothered to upgrade to the SGS2, i'd probably have waited for Nexus 4 or SGS3 before getting a new phone
so it all comes down to your needs, and what you want to do with it, and if the phone is able to do what you want
@AllGamer: i agree, but we must not forget that it's not just a matter of hardware: most games still run better on an old as **** 3gs rather on the latest Android superphone. If the software (games or whatever) isn't optimized all the cores in the world won't make our gaming experience better, and this is especially true on a mobile platform.
lol its funny how ppl think old android devices will become obsolete. as th guy under all gamer.stated they still optimize games for older phones. my brother has a htc legend and most of the games are playable on that still through optimization and besides if needed u can overclock android devices cpu and gpu.
With that being said. Do ppl think games will still be made and optimized for dual devices like the
gs2?? As it would still be a very capable phone? Im new to android so what are peoples experience with past android game compatibility with phones??
i would go with the sg2... i will give advantage to the android system in general... even now it show its supremacy over iOS... and with no doubt it will become better
Well simply the iphone im a android fan at heart. But even I know the apple has the best reselling value for devices period. By the time the new iphone 5 comes out most people would of sold their iphone 4 or 4s by then to get it. You can get unreasonable amount of money for devices which are last gen on various selling sites.
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games that works in one phone will not work on another
mainly due Tegra, Exynos/Hummingbird, Qualcomm
then it comes the RAM sizes
so it's up to the game developer to provide support or not for their games
good example
Gameloft said they will no longer update Dungeon Hunter 1, which i paid for, but is not compatible with newer phone
other typical example Tegra games will not run on non tegras phones
some games are only available in certain models, some other are available in all, so it really depends on which games you plan to play, or might play in the future
depends
I think hardware wise, you're better with the android phone....
is you want to keep up with software, the iphone.
as an owner, for a year now, of a SGS1, and having it abandoned, if you're ok with the software that comes on it possibly being the only os update you get, and nearly no luck of them quickly releasing patches for bugs, then the SGS would be ok...
I'm not a big iFan, so am a little biased, but am jealous of the control apple has over their software updates...with the Iphone, you'll likely get fairly quick bug fixes pushed to your phone, and good chance your phone will get the next 1 or 2 os updates apple releases.
I think with the SGS, you'll be better with the larger screen...as I think phones are trending that way...and the more memory..and of course you get the future speed bumps as the carrier's 4g (3g+) tech gets updated and expanded....
personally...ny next phone is the nexus prime. updates straight from google, in a timely manner, and many of the specs similar to the sgs2.
just my 2 cents
So where is one to draw the line with phones. Im currently running a CDMA Desire on uscc. I know its nothing special but im really content with this phone. I have it rooted with cm7.1 and a custom vork kernel. Im really happy with this phone but like most im kind of ready for something new. There has been a little rumor going around that us cellular might get the galaxy nexus. (i know i know, Who is us cellular, this is bull crap if they get it! I have heard it all just bear with me) if us cellular does get the galaxy nexus or the rumored samsung galaxy s2 lte version i would be more than content with either of these phones. Both are dual core with 1gb of ram and 720p resolution screens ect...... Now there are a lot of rumors going aroudn that quad core phones are not that far away. WTF. Where do we need to draw a line. What application does a galaxy s2 have trouble loading. How fast do you need to scroll through a webpage? My Deisre will load apps, play games, and scroll through web pages faster than you can think about reading them. Is a quad core phone really necessary? Sure its cool yeah who wouldnt love one but is it really worth waiting for? I know there are some that would buy and galaxy nexus and a day later sell it just to buy a quad core. How do you guys feel? Is a quad core phone really needed at this day and age with what the dual core phones are capable of? Im not opposed to the idea that i may be wrong or out of line, just show me where.
Just draw the line where you need it...
snoprosledneck88 said:
quad core phones are not that far away. WTF. Where do we need to draw a line. What application does a galaxy s2 have trouble loading. How fast do you need to scroll through a webpage? My Deisre will load apps, play games, and scroll through web pages faster than you can think about reading them. Is a quad core phone really necessary?
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There are SO many reasons. Did you ever try a cell phone in the 90s? Sure, they didn't have any or many apps, but ALSO, even given "excellent" reception, the audio quality in a phone call was not quite what it is or could be today. Now, you can also use a fast connection and phone to stream live video and audio which to be high quality and low lag requires a great deal of processing and connection speed. The faster the mobile network and faster the phone, the more stable every single communication you make. On these grounds alone, I support technological improvement in mobile phones.
On the other hand, people do play their games, and the more going on in a game, the more speed you need in the system for it to both look good and be functional, and perhaps to store your game data or even let it keep running fully during a phone call that is also clear and stable, if it's that kind of game you are often waiting for a clock to tick or do not want to disconnect or disappear if it's an MMOG for instance.
Not only that, my 1 Ghz, single chip DOES get laggy and is slow to boot and be fully smooth running, and then if I move around too fast or have a few apps running/updating, can be quite laggy.
The line is where you need/want/care to push it...
i aagree I want to see technology evolve, just not all in a six month time frame. Yes I had several phones in the 90s and even have a low end phone administered by my employer. Even that phone with a 1x connection and a processor I'm guess that is equivelant to that found in a automatic papertowel machine has good audio quality. I guess where I was originally going in this post is, the sheer frustration that mounts on one when you are trying to get a phone that is not going to be a pos (for the lack of a better word) in 3 months. I know that I'm stuck with my next phone for 2 years and that's a long time for one phone in this industry. Dual core phones we're introduced about 8-10 months ago and are now already going to be replaced.
I currently have the S3, i have previously owned the S2 and S1 and was hoping for a simply upgrade process again, Sammy bring out a storming phone, I buy it and nobody else gets a look in.
However tsamsung have overcomplicated what should have been an easy decision to the point when I am now considering a HTC one, crazy I Know. The HTC one is a beauitiful looking phone and it is pretty much as powerful as the snap S4 600 so why shouldnt I buy it?, this is where sammy has failed to me, they let HTC get in on the high end.
However, the Ones's screen for me isnt even as good as my s3's, the colours are much richer and the blacks blacker, no contest for me (personal Taste).
So with the one out of the window do I wait for the Octa or get the 600 version, I just cant decide, will I really me missing something if I get the 600 version?
Since you posted in S4 forum I think you unconsciously already made a decision. The most answers here will be biased towards S4 (mine included). If you really wanted HTC One you'd posting there.
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Since you posted in S4 forum I think you unconsciously already made a decision. The most answers here will be biased towards S4 (mine included). If you really wanted HTC One you'd posting there.
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I your read I have already kind of ruled out the One, i just cant decide whether I should go 600 or wait for the OCta.
Both are good phones and at this point I think the choice is even more (compared to other comparisons where the race was not this close) about personal preference than which phone is better.
If you are talking about samsung offering different processors which complicates things, maybe my thoughts help:
- Unless you make the effort of importing a foreign phone at increased cost you typically do not have the choice between the I9505 and the I9500. You get the one samsung chose for the region (the i9505 for the US and central Europe), at least for the next few months (for me it's just speculation if/when the Exynos gets available genarally).
- Both pocessors are decent and I think for most users it makes no real difference. They would likely not notice the difference. The Exynos seemes to have an edge in speed and possibly battery life, but also consider that the snapdragon is more open and developers are more willing and able to develop/optimize for it. And since the snapdagon will be more wide-spread you'll also find more roms for it (assuming the rom's will only work on the model they are built for).
- It is not that Samsung created the 'choice' of processors willingly, they are forced to it since they cannot produce enough Exynos processors to meet the demands. If they could, Samsung would only use it's own Exynos.
If you meant other aspects that make the choice for difficult for you, please go ahead and mention them
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I your read I have already kind of ruled out the One, i just cant decide whether I should go 600 or wait for the OCta.
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If you don't have LTE in your country or is just too damn expensive (like in my country) and you don't care to much about custom development then go for the Exynos because it will be probably cheaper and possibly better in performance/battery. Otherwise go for the Snapdragon.
Im a bit investigating similar topic so maybe I will help you somehow. Basically it looks like this:
- htc one is a great looking phone with top-notch lcd display and it will be probably the area you will love
- performance wise - htc looks average, s4 lte seems to have better ram and is overclocked, octa is expected to be benchmark king. octa is full a15 architecture but a bit old overclocked GPU
- if you like sense - new sense looks different. well sense 5 looks interesting but it seems it eats standby time and for me is a first feature to be disabled. I use nova + my set of widgets/apps so basically I dont give a f*** if its a sense or TW based firmware
- htc seems to be fragile and difficult to repair. top and bottom panels drops off quite often, aluminium body is not so hard and can be broken/dented
- screen in htc is smaller but as I said its a top lcd screen for now (there is a topic that htc use different screen suplier with quite different brighness/color setup) - some screens look poor
- if you like amoled or you are used to amoled - you will notice poor black in htc and probably also notice better brightness in s4 (around 25%-30% more than s3)
- qualcomm SOC seems to be prefered platform for now so if you are CM lover, it looks like the only choice. Exynos is the worst enemy of entropy512 so dont expect much of teamhacksung
- exycon is supposed to have wolfson DAC, but s600 is getting great sound reviews too. Htc one seems to be really well configured in audio department
- battery wise - htc one has smaller battery, smaller lcd screen which means better browsing time. s4 has bigger batter, bigger amoled screen but suprisingly similar browsing time and great stand by time
- base on s3/hox experience - htc looks pretty bad in soft update area but it doesnt mean htc one will have to wait years for 4.2. if htc one+ will apear in following 3 months - expect crap soft updates
- button layouts - if you are galaxy user, expect frustration in two-buttons HTC setup. Only back on the left and home on the right with useless giant htc label in the middle
- htc - no sd card and no battery. I basically watch movies/tv series and play games in free time beside usual stuff so no sd card is a no go. Big screen + sd card is a must have
- octa seems to be a lot more interesting, bit.LITTLE can be tweaked to operate on 8 cores, can be separately overclocked on a7/a15 cores - sounds like a lot of fun
these are just some subjects that I noticed and I may be totally wrong
Dont get me wrong its going to be an S4, my friend sat next to me at work has a ONE and the screen is nice but isnt as nice as my Galaxy S3 in my humble opinion.
If I knew how long I'd have to wait to get my hands on the OCTa, lte or not in the UK then I might be able to make a decision, hence why i feel Sammy has dropped the ball her for high end users.
I wonder which will get more development. The international version or the US version. I know there are some ROMs that are only available for the international version of the S3.
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da.trute said:
I currently have the S3, i have previously owned the S2 and S1 and was hoping for a simply upgrade process again, Sammy bring out a storming phone, I buy it and nobody else gets a look in.
However tsamsung have overcomplicated what should have been an easy decision to the point when I am now considering a HTC one, crazy I Know. The HTC one is a beauitiful looking phone and it is pretty much as powerful as the snap S4 600 so why shouldnt I buy it?, this is where sammy has failed to me, they let HTC get in on the high end.
However, the Ones's screen for me isnt even as good as my s3's, the colours are much richer and the blacks blacker, no contest for me (personal Taste).
So with the one out of the window do I wait for the Octa or get the 600 version, I just cant decide, will I really me missing something if I get the 600 version?
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I would stick with the S600 variant S4. More development and the enhanced Adreno 320 is proving to be a beast. If I decided to get an S4 it would be hands down the S600 for me.
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I wonder which will get more development. The international version or the US version. I know there are some ROMs that are only available for the international version of the S3.
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it has been suggested that there will be more Dev on the 600 version as there will be more of them which makes sense, however I always use tweaked sammy based ROMS rather new DEV stuff like cyanogen than so there will be more than enough Dev on the OCTA for me.
Unfortunately i have to understand S4 S600 LTE version is more complete than Exynos without LTE.
At moment here we pay in any plane more €10\month to have 4G with extra 3Gb, but I think sooner or later 4G will be free.
Between have a slightly higher value in bench's i'd rather buy a phone that will not let me down on LTE question.
Conclusion:
With LTE i have a much faster phone than a higher bench without LTE ... looool
Now with this in mind in can buy a S4 S600 in peace with Sam.
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da.trute said:
it has been suggested that there will be more Dev on the 600 version as there will be more of them which makes sense, however I always use tweaked sammy based ROMS rather new DEV stuff like cyanogen than so there will be more than enough Dev on the OCTA for me.
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The main issue for me will be when Sammy stops updating the S4 maybe 1.5-2 years down the line. The S4 has great hardware and should run well into 3 years of use, and the only thing that will keep it updated is dev support and aosp/aosp-derivative ROMs. I'll wait till i decide which variant to buy depending on how open each variant turns out to be for dev-work.
Was wondering if starting a petition this time might help. Before, petitions were started after people bought the phones so sammy already made the sale. This time, it could mean a loss of customers for sammy if they don't release complete and updated code and documentation.