ROM Manager has an option to "Backup Current ROM" and "Manage and Restore Backups". Can all that be used on stock (odexed), rooted ROM?
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I noticed this feature as well. I personally never tried but i am not sure how it would work. It might create a file in the the clockwork mod folder. But i doubt it works. You could always try it out. the worst it could do it bootloop your phone and you can just fxz? haha.
I don't have a method yet for flashing a fxz file. I'm on linux. Ive never been forced to learn how to do it. You try. ;-)
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Haha. That is a great challenge. My phone is charging right now. We need to find another "victim" to do it. I don't think ROM toolbox is very reliable though. Or at least not as reliable as CWM
I use this app to backup and restore apps.
Don't know for sure to backup and restore rom.
Need someone who has warranty to try this though LOL
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kindacrazyazn said:
Haha. That is a great challenge. My phone is charging right now. We need to find another "victim" to do it. I don't think ROM toolbox is very reliable though. Or at least not as reliable as CWM
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We're talking about ROM Manager by Koushik Dutta. Not "ROM Toolbox". Right?
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As far as backing up and restoring a stock rom, I fairly certain that it will. However, it depends on a CWM mod recovery and at the moment all we have is a frankinmod recovery and Rom Manager doesn't even acknowledge it.
So, if we had CWM in better shape, or a way for Rom Manager to see it, then everything else would fall into place.
On a random note, Rom Manager will boot into recovery with our frankinmod, but that's about it.
@41rw4lk
These are exactly the concerns i have.
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I was referring to ROM Toolbox but i personally never trusted ROM Toolbox or ROM manager. But that is just me personally.
ROM Manager makes things a whole lot easier for flashing ROMs and backing up/restoring. It's developed by koushikdutta, the same person that develops CWM, so everything should be seamlessly integrated. But as 41rw4lk stated, ROM Manager only partially detects our modified, bootstrapped recovery (it can boot into it but no automation). However, you can get it to work on the A2 . Apply the A2 bootstrap, then flash the Bionic recovery from ROM Manager, then re-apply the A2 bootstrap.
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kindacrazyazn said:
I was referring to ROM Toolbox but i personally never trusted ROM Toolbox or ROM manager. But that is just me personally.
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Using ROM Toolbox for flashing/restoring/backing up/etc only works if you have the premium ROM Manager. It uses methods from the premium ROM Manager to do just what ROM Manager does. So ROM Toolbox works although there isn't really a reason to use it.
I did away with the bootstrapper and use the cwm on every boot method, which is built into the Sonya rom now I believe. Can I flash the Bionic recovery still without messing everything up?
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I did away with the bootstrapper and use the cwm on every boot method, which is built into the Sonya rom now I believe. Can I flash the Bionic recovery still without messing everything up?
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yes it will work finr as i have done so. Also, the options in rom manager that alow you to backup or restore a rom do work as i have used both mutiple times with out a problem. I just flashed the new lithium rom today right after i backed up my atrix sonya rom using the backup option.
@cogeary
Is there a method to remove the Bionic Recovery? When the Atrix 2 Recovery becomes available would we install that over the Bionic?
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rob219 said:
yes it will work finr as i have done so. Also, the options in rom manager that alow you to backup or restore a rom do work as i have used both mutiple times with out a problem. I just flashed the new lithium rom today right after i backed up my atrix sonya rom using the backup option.
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I just flashed the Bionic recovery and it works perfectly with Rom Manager. One click backup. Thanks for the tip.
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@cogeary
Is there a method to remove the Bionic Recovery? When the Atrix 2 Recovery becomes available would we install that over the Bionic?
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im not sure about removing it from out phone, but i do know if we ever get an officail or unofficial recovery made just for the atrix 2 you would just either flash it using rom manager (if its in the list of devices) or flash the zip in recovery and reboot into your rom or reboot recovery to check it out.
Technically, the recoveries we're flashing now aren't replacing the system recovery, they're just put in the system and loaded like any other script. If you try to get to recovery manually with buttons, you hit the default system recovery. If we ever get an unlocked bootloader and an official CWM then we're golden and can overwrite the system recovery. So uninstalling everything else should be a matter of deleting scripts, or just not build them into roms anymore since we won't need to.
It's late, so if I'm talking out my ass I apologize. I will say, I appreciate all the work and help from everyone here.
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Is anyone else using Rom Manager to install ROM'S? I have a DX 2.2 froyo rooted and wanted to know if any other DX'ERS have used it and what they think about it. If you have any step by step or recommendations, I'm all ears. Oh, I'm a newbie at this so keep it simple please. Thanks
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Best app PERIOD for your DX. Just make sure you get the bootstrapper app from koush also as Rom Mngr needs bootstrap. Can back up your entire phone in its current state to restore to later. Highest of recommendations from a long time user here.
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So I have downloaded this app and cannot get any of the ROM's to actually load in. I need to purchase bootstrap to get it to be fully functional? Sorry but I am fairly new to this as well and am tired of all the Blur on the phone and it eating up my battery. I am running 2.2 rooted.
Yeah you need to get the bootstrapper.
I kept doing backups, but could never see them in the Rom Manager.
After I got the Bootstrapper, did the bootstrap recovery, then reboot recovery. It booted into the typical recovery like on the D1, then you can do a backup.
By the Way Great App Koush..
good advice.. I was in the same boat but just installed koush's bootsrapper.. gonna try it later - quick question - do you boot into recovery to do the backup? I am getting confused on what to do when - my goal is to back the phone up and them wipe it and put on some custom roms but have the ability to get the phone back to where it is today - my assumption is if I backup then wipe I can do that.. just trying to soak it all in
thanks
jim
darby427 said:
good advice.. I was in the same boat but just installed koush's bootsrapper.. gonna try it later - quick question - do you boot into recovery to do the backup? I am getting confused on what to do when - my goal is to back the phone up and them wipe it and put on some custom roms but have the ability to get the phone back to where it is today - my assumption is if I backup then wipe I can do that.. just trying to soak it all in
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jim
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heres how i do it: i go into the bootstrapper and bootstrap the recovery; i dont reboot to recovery from bootstrap. then go to rom mngr and go to the backup and restore section, backup current rom. i rename it to something relevant to the current state of my phone like "ApexClean" or ApexNameofTheme" and backup. since i went to bootstrap just before rom mngr i have bootstrapped the recovery already and rom mngr does its thing. you can do everything from bootstrap by rebooting recovery in the bootstrap app, but i choose to bootstrap then interface with recovery via rom mngr. just a personnal preference. just reread this before posting and hope this makes sense to you. i will be happy to walk you through this if you need some help. Good luck!
Great instructions - I just backed it up - took about 4-5 minutes. Your steps worked like a champ - so my assumption is that I can restore the phone to this state at anytime. Now here is a question - If I wipe the phone to install a new rom - I am assuming rom manger will not be there. So I would need to reinstall rom manager and koush's bootstrapper to then put the backup back on to return the phone to this state?
thanks
jim
lu270bro said:
heres how i do it: i go into the bootstrapper and bootstrap the recovery; i dont reboot to recovery from bootstrap. then go to rom mngr and go to the backup and restore section, backup current rom. i rename it to something relevant to the current state of my phone like "ApexClean" or ApexNameofTheme" and backup. since i went to bootstrap just before rom mngr i have bootstrapped the recovery already and rom mngr does its thing. you can do everything from bootstrap by rebooting recovery in the bootstrap app, but i choose to bootstrap then interface with recovery via rom mngr. just a personnal preference. just reread this before posting and hope this makes sense to you. i will be happy to walk you through this if you need some help. Good luck!
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darby427 said:
Great instructions - I just backed it up - took about 4-5 minutes. Your steps worked like a champ - so my assumption is that I can restore the phone to this state at anytime. Now here is a question - If I wipe the phone to install a new rom - I am assuming rom manger will not be there. So I would need to reinstall rom manager and koush's bootstrapper to then put the backup back on to return the phone to this state?
thanks
jim
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you would be correct about your question. once you get familiar and comfortable with how these recovery apps and interfaces work its really a piece of cake. i like using the rom mngr interface just because i can rename my backups to something i can recognize, instead of a bunch of numbers. glad it worked out for you. btw , as personal preference and a suggestion to you, i enjoy changing roms and themes quite frequently. i have gone thru all the steps to get root and froyo(leaked 2.3.15) on my phone. once i got a "baseline" system, i installed RM, Bootstrap, Astro File Mngr, and Terminal Emulator, then i did the steps mentioned in myh previous post and created a clean system backup and renamed it "froyocleanroot." with this "froyocleanroot" backup if i want to change anything, rom or theme, i just restore to this backup and, voila, i have a clean phone/system ready with the necessary root applications already installed!
hey guys a have problems with rom manager.
i was trying to do a backup rom. but rom manager gives me 2 different errors 2 different times.
first it tells me the i need to have cmw v4 and up and the other is it cant mount system so it only backup the bootlogo!!!
how can i fix this
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hey guys a have problems with rom manager.
i was trying to do a backup rom. but rom manager gives me 2 different errors 2 different times.
first it tells me the i need to have cmw v4 and up and the other is it cant mount system so it only backup the bootlogo!!!
how can i fix this
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Backup from recovery
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Backup from recovery
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i did that and got the same issues.
gypsy214 said:
i did that and got the same issues.
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Did you boot into recovery from rom manager? Or by holding power + volume down to boot into the nvflashed version? Make sure you're making backups by booting into the nvflashed recovery.
I've noticed that stock GB and ROM Manager do not get along. I'm forced to boot into recovery to do anything.
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Personally, I find Rom Manager to be completly useless and doesn't allow you to do anything right. Your best bet is to boot into recovery by holding power and vol down if you want something done right.
Tattooed5150 said:
Personally, I find Rom Manager to be completly useless and doesn't allow you to do anything right. Your best bet is to boot into recovery by holding power and vol down if you want something done right.
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Agreed I find rom manager totally useless too, I haven't even used it since my mytouch 4g days, no need to with the nvflash recovery, once flashed it is just about fool proof. I never. Ever had a problem. Using it, and to rename my backups I use andro zip from the market and its free, also nvflash gets updated in a timely manner.......great great tool and like I said no problems using it
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Agreed I find rom manager totally useless too, I haven't even used it since my mytouch 4g days, no need to with the nvflash recovery, once flashed it is just about fool proof. I never. Ever had a problem. Using it, and to rename my backups I use andro zip from the market and its free, also nvflash gets updated in a timely manner.......great great tool and like I said no problems using it
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ROM Manager works fine on phones where the recovery partition is accessible when the phone is booted into the Android OS. On my Nexus One it works great and flashes recovery to the recovery partition where it is supposed to go.
On the G2X, LG made the recovery partition non-accessible when the phone is booted into the Android OS. So ROM Manager cannot flash recovery directly to the recovery partition. It flashes it to regular phone memory and then tricks the phone into running it when you say reboot to recovery in ROM Manager. Because of this people call this a "fake flash" and is not as reliable as recovery flashed to the recovery partition where it should be. Therefore, it is not advisable to use ROM Manager with the G2X and just use NVFlash to flash Clockworkmod Recovery to the recovery partition where it should be.
Sorry for the noob questions but I can't seem to find a specific answer to my problem.
I am trying to create a backup of my stock Touchwiz ICS 4.0.4 using Rom manager premium v.5.0.2.1 so that I can flash CM10 to my Verizon S3. I have flashed the "ClockworkMod Recovery".
Current Recovery: ClockworkMod 6.0.1.2
Latest Recovery: ClockworkMod 6.0.1.2
Now when I try to "Backup Current ROM" my phone boots into a menu. I was under the impression that it should begin creating a Nandroid backup when I did this. It boots into Android system recovery <3e>
Word for word this is what I get
Volume up/down to move highlight:
Power button to select.
Reboot system now
apply update from external storage
wipe data/factory reset
wipe cache partition apply update from cache
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# MANUAL MODE #
--Applying Multi-CSC...
Applied the CSC-code : VZW
Succesfully applied multi-CSC
From there I didn't see an obvious Create backup type of option so I chose "Reboot system now" which then booted up normally. In Rom manger there is no file under Manage and Restore backups. Do I need to choose a different option in the boot menu. I could manually make a nandroid backup I think, but I'm not sure if it would work properly since I flashed the ClockworkMod Recovery.
Sorry, I am very new to this!
How did you flash your recovery? Was it through rom manager or through ez recovery?
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Yeah you have the stock android recovery. (3e) Try using the "EZ-recovery for VZW Galaxy S3" app from the play store. I have always heard ROM manager can be kind of buggy.
JBO1018 said:
Yeah you have the stock android recovery. (3e) Try using the "EZ-recovery for VZW Galaxy S3" app from the play store. I have always heard ROM manager can be kind of buggy.
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No, not at all, Rom manager works fine, but only if you flashed your recovery through it. If you used ez recovery, rom manager does not know that it has cwm recovery on it and will not operate correctly. Flash recovery through rom manager and it will work correctly. EZ is a foundation app intended to simplify recovery without rom manager. Not good if you know what your doing.
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annoyingduck said:
No, not at all, Rom manager works fine, but only if you flashed your recovery through it. If you used ez recovery, rom manager does not know that it has cwm recovery on it and will not operate correctly. Flash recovery through rom manager and it will work correctly. EZ is a foundation app intended to simplify recovery without rom manager. Not good if you know what your doing.
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He said he did use ROM manager to flash recovery and that it says he has CWM installed. Yet from his descripton when his phone reboots into recovery he is getting Android recovery 3e. (stock recovery) So something isnt working right. That's why I suggested ez recovery and mentioned ROM manager has been notoriously unreliable in the past for me and many other I know. It may work fine for this phone. I just, out of habit, tend to stay away from it.
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He said he did use ROM manager to flash recovery and that it says he has CWM installed. Yet from his descripton when his phone reboots into recovery he is getting Android recovery 3e. (stock recovery) So something isnt working right. That's why I suggested ez recovery and mentioned ROM manager has been notoriously unreliable in the past for me and many other I know. It may work fine for this phone. I just, out of habit, tend to stay away from it.
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Good call!
I didn't see any mention of how he flashed his recovery, just assumed it was not through rom manager due to the issues he's having.
My experience with ez recovery made rom manager (an app I like alot) not work correctly. As soon as I re flashed through rom manager, all was well. Not knocking ez, just trying to get his rom manager app working for him.
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I am having the same problem. I flashed mine through Rom Manager also. It worked on the first reboot in recovery and has worked one other time in touch. Here's my thread. - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32795611#post32795611
Solutions?
If I install ez Recovery, how will that effect CWM?
I'm running the premium version of rom manager. Are you guys running the free version? I can't imagine why your having these issues, could it be related?
I originally used ez to install cwm 6.0.1.2, then used rom manager to flash the touch version of 6.0.1.2. Have not had these issues.
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annoyingduck said:
I'm running the premium version of rom manager. Are you guys running the free version? I can't imagine why your having these issues, could it be related?
I originally used ez to install cwm 6.0.1.2, then used rom manager to flash the touch version of 6.0.1.2. Have not had these issues.
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I got premium, I thought the same cause mine wont let me download roms either. It tells me to upgrade to the latest version.
Should we maybe uninstall and try a different install method, such as yours. Would there be any consequences?
I don't see any issues with that. To get touch through RM, there are 2 ways. One is in app purchase (don't do this, it's a one time, one use add on. Does not stay if you install a different recovery. Kind of a scam). The other is in RM you can link directly to cwm site and dl the apk for free. Just be sure you get the one for our phone, the site page is a little weird to navigate. Then you have it forever.
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This might be your problem, see if you gave the file mentioned in the last post and delete it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32346811
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kintwofan said:
This might be your problem, see if you gave the file mentioned in the last post and delete it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32346811
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What file? Im still noob confused about all of this. S-P-E-L-L it out. Can I just go ahead and do ez now or do I need to do anything to RM
Thanks for your help, its greatly appreciated.
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What file? Im still noob confused about all of this. S-P-E-L-L it out. Can I just go ahead and do ez now or do I need to do anything to RM
Thanks for your help, its greatly appreciated.
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Just try ez recovery first and see if it works, its in the play store. If it doesn't I'll try to find the exact path of the file. I'm not stock so its hard I'll have to search for it
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kintwofan said:
Just try ez recovery first and see if it works, its in the play store. If it doesn't I'll try to find the exact path of the file. I'm not stock so its hard I'll have to search for it
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It worked the first time I rebooted from RM, then I tried to enter manual recovery and it went to android recovery, then I tried RM reboot to recovery and it went into android recovery. Do I need to back it up before I reboot? It seems like the reboot in recovery right after a flash works, but then looses it after reboot.
I still have the problem also of it not allowing me to download roms, says I need to upgrade to latest version.
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It worked the first time I rebooted from RM, then I tried to enter manual recovery and it went to android recovery, then I tried RM reboot to recovery and it went into android recovery. Do I need to back it up before I reboot? It seems like the reboot in recovery right after a flash works, but then looses it after reboot.
I still have the problem also of it not allowing me to download roms, says I need to upgrade to latest version.
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Then that file needs deleted. I'll try to find it.
But the easiest fix would be to download whatever ROM you want directly from the forum. Use Ez recovery and in that first boot into recovery flash the ROM you downloaded following the instructions in the ROMs post.
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kintwofan said:
Then that file needs deleted. I'll try to find it.
But the easiest fix would be to download whatever ROM you want directly from the forum. Use Ez recovery and in that first boot into recovery flash the ROM you downloaded following the instructions in the ROMs post.
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ok... Thats probably what ill do then. I have to do some more reading on flashing roms... I dont want anymore problems. I got three more questions for you since youve been so helpful.
1. Any idea why its not letting me get into the download ROMS in RM. Saying I need to upgrade to the latest version of RM
2. Im sure I could find the answer to this but Ill ask since I got you here. I just went through over the last few days adding a lot of customizations, like nova, widgets, widgetlocker, tasker, etc. When I do flash a new rom whats the most efficient way to transfer apps, settings, designs, etc
3. If I was to keep the stock ROM what happens with VZW OTA updates. Doesnt it mess things up. This last update has messed everything up for GS3's and I bet the next will have even more "restrictions"
Thanks again
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ok... Thats probably what ill do then. I have to do some more reading on flashing roms... I dont want anymore problems. I got two more questions for you since youve been so helpful.
1. Any idea why its not letting me get into the download ROMS in RM. Saying I need to upgrade to the latest version of RM
2. Im sure I could find the answer to this but Ill ask since I got you here. I just went through over the last few days adding a lot of customizations, like nova, widgets, widgetlocker, tasker, etc. When I do flash a new rom whats the most efficient way to transfer apps, settings, designs, etc
Thanks again
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1. I don't use RM so can't be much help there.
2. I personally use titanium backup to back up and restore user apps. I don't recommend restoring system settings.
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One either thing make sure you backup your imie...there's a guide in the development section.
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I figured it out earlier. When you do the first reboot the recovery menu gives you the option to disable stock recovery from flashing. Select it and it's been working fine since.
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I figured it out earlier. When you do the first reboot the recovery menu gives you the option to disable stock recovery from flashing. Select it and it's been working fine since.
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Good. I don't remember seeing that option, but I've been rooted for a while.
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I've looked all over this forum and I hope that I can get a definitive answer here. I don't feel like my use case is that unique but I'm going to be as specific as possible and hopefully get as concise and complete an answer as possible.
Until recently, I was running a custom GB-based ROM. When I was running GB, I used the Atrix 2 Bootstrapper and RAZR-CWM-Recovery-on-boot-J.Y.Daddy (or whatever it's called) to get CWM Recovery on boot and make backups and so on.
I ran the return to stock script from my GB ROM and am now running the stock ICS ROM that I got from the official OTA upgrade from AT&T. I've obviously rooted it.
I want to make a backup of my current stock rooted ROM with CWM Recovery. To my knowledge, the old bootstrapper method does not work on the official ICS OTA upgrade. I don't want to multi-boot with BMM, I just want a custom recovery so I can run CWM Recovery to backup/restore/possibly flash a new ROM.
I know that most of the new ROMs include their own custom backup, but that leaves me with no way to get back to the new stock ICS ROM (to my knowledge, I may be wrong).
If the simple solution is not possible and the only solution is to install Numa or Paranoid or the unofficial CM ROM, that's fine, I'd just like to know.
Thanks in advance.
My advice would be to just use BMM from the play store, edit the recovery.fstab as shown in that thread.. And make a backup with that.. Use tar format I think (if there's a choice - sorry I have not made a backup on this phone in a while).
That should be good to restore with other recoveries.. Plus you can uninstall BMM and don't need to multi-boot..
But, wait, I thought the old a2 bootstrapper worked fine on ics...?
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alteredlikeness said:
But, wait, I thought the old a2 bootstrapper worked fine on ics...?
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I actually haven't tried it yet, that's just the general "feeling" I got from what I had read thus far. I was up super late last night fixing three or four soft bricks before I got my phone to a working state again and now I'm taking the cautious route. The bootstrapper doesn't count as a custom recovery, though, for the purposes of creating a backup with CWM Recovery, right? As in I'll still need to find a custom recovery to run a backup.
That is, of course, assuming I don't just use BMM to take my backup now. I suppose I had planned to go with a custom ROM eventually anyway, probably Numa, or maybe the CM ROM (if it gets a little more stable here pretty quickly, I suppose).
I'm pretty pleased with the stock ICS ROM over my old custom GB ROM (SCv6), which is why I'm now circumspect about trying out a new custom ROM without having a way to easily get back to where I am now (because I lost my backups the first time, like an idiot).
Thanks for the reply.
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I actually haven't tried it yet, that's just the general "feeling" I got from what I had read thus far. I was up super late last night fixing three or four soft bricks before I got my phone to a working state again and now I'm taking the cautious route. The bootstrapper doesn't count as a custom recovery, though, for the purposes of creating a backup with CWM Recovery, right? As in I'll still need to find a custom recovery to run a backup.
That is, of course, assuming I don't just use BMM to take my backup now. I suppose I had planned to go with a custom ROM eventually anyway, probably Numa, or maybe the CM ROM (if it gets a little more stable here pretty quickly, I suppose).
I'm pretty pleased with the stock ICS ROM over my old custom GB ROM (SCv6), which is why I'm now circumspect about trying out a new custom ROM without having a way to easily get back to where I am now (because I lost my backups the first time, like an idiot).
Thanks for the reply.
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why not multi boot using BMM? checkout Numa, it has all the stock ICS goodness but debloated and much faster. see for urself
i'm using it and its much better than ICS stock
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To my knowledge, the old bootstrapper method does not work on the official ICS OTA upgrade.
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The bootstrapper does work with ICS.
I don't want to multi-boot with BMM, I just want a custom recovery so I can run CWM Recovery to backup/restore/possibly flash a new ROM.
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Well apart from bootstrapper and BMM we don't have any other custom recovery for Atrix 2.
I know that most of the new ROMs include their own custom backup, but that leaves me with no way to get back to the new stock ICS ROM (to my knowledge, I may be wrong).
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Well there's always the fxz way
alteredlikeness said:
My advice would be to just use BMM from the play store, edit the recovery.fstab as shown in that thread.. And make a backup with that.. Use tar format I think (if there's a choice - sorry I have not made a backup on this phone in a while).
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Yup as altered said.But from my understanding you don't want to multi-boot right? Then you don't need to edit recovery.fstb.Just install it from play store install the hijacks and make a backup(in tar format preferably you'll find the option in there)
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that is assuming I don't just use BMM to take my backup now.
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I really don't see logically why would you be so hell bent to avoid BMM.
I'm pretty pleased with the stock ICS ROM over my old custom GB ROM (SCv6), which is why I'm now circumspect about trying out a new custom ROM without having a way to easily get back to where I am now (because I lost my backups the first time, like an idiot).
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You can do two things:
1.Install BMM make a backup of your current system.Install the custom ROM you want.Restore whenever you feel like.
2.Install BMM.Edit recovery.fstb(don't go after the name you just have to edit some text).Leave your current system on system 1.Install any ROM you like on system 3 and/or above.No need to restore.Switch between your choice of system whenever you wish.
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May the -Mass times Acceleration-be with You...
Just got my first device rooted.
Now i have installed a ROM.
I feel awesome.
But then i read this
"With ROM Manager you can back up your existing ROM, flash new ROMs, and install custom themes or kernels. It features a long list of ROMs which is frequently updated and you can install ROMs to the SD card or OTA (over the air). If you want to unlock features like premium ROMs, update notifications, and automatic backups, then you’ll need to spring for the premium version."
So now i am trying to figure out what custome themes are and what custom kernels are compared to the Avatar ROM i installed.
behedwin said:
Just got my first device rooted.
Now i have installed a ROM.
I feel awesome.
But then i read this
"With ROM Manager you can back up your existing ROM, flash new ROMs, and install custom themes or kernels. It features a long list of ROMs which is frequently updated and you can install ROMs to the SD card or OTA (over the air). If you want to unlock features like premium ROMs, update notifications, and automatic backups, then you’ll need to spring for the premium version."
So now i am trying to figure out what custome themes are and what custom kernels are compared to the Avatar ROM i installed.
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Now let me put this simple. The ROM is the operating system of your device (OS). You know what a theme is. Its just changing the way things look can be your icons, interface shade/colour,etc. Its just visuals. And the next is kernel. Kernels are the thing which links your OS and hardware. Literally they are responsible for the way your phone behaves. Custom kernels has tweaks whicj can improve your device's performance, the battery drain, way your processor's I/O works.. It helps you to do things like over clock and under clock,etc. But it is risky as your manufacturer has made a stable kernel for your device and these custom kernels may be unstable. Sure thing you dont want to mess with em unless you know what you are doing. Now as you have choice to do things like changing ROMs and Kernels using Rom manager, i would recommend you to use CWM and flash zip files which has ROMs and Kernels made specifically for your device as this is more safe. But be sure to have a backup as installing something not meant for your device will brick it. Dont worry. Have a backup and also Odin with stock rom incase its really hard bricked. If it helped hit thanks button plz..
haridevil99 said:
Now let me put this simple. The ROM is the operating system of your device (OS). You know what a theme is. Its just changing the way things look can be your icons, interface shade/colour,etc. Its just visuals. And the next is kernel. Kernels are the thing which links your OS and hardware. Literally they are responsible for the way your phone behaves. Custom kernels has tweaks whicj can improve your device's performance, the battery drain, way your processor's I/O works.. It helps you to do things like over clock and under clock,etc. But it is risky as your manufacturer has made a stable kernel for your device and these custom kernels may be unstable. Sure thing you dont want to mess with em unless you know what you are doing. Now as you have choice to do things like changing ROMs and Kernels using Rom manager, i would recommend you to use CWM and flash zip files which has ROMs and Kernels made specifically for your device as this is more safe. But be sure to have a backup as installing something not meant for your device will brick it. Dont worry. Have a backup and also Odin with stock rom incase its really hard bricked. If it helped hit thanks button plz..
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Awesome now i have a good hint of what each thing are.
Now this lead me to some more questions.
Since i have already rooted my device. I have installed Avatar ROM and tested some others...
But i never made any backups... Is it to late for that?
Is my best choice to download Titanium Backup and backup everything with that application?
You said something else about Odin, how to backup aswell with that?
What is CWM and how does it differ from Rom Manager?
When i install a ROM i download a zip file, put it on my device SD card
Boot the phone in and wipe data, wipe cache, wipe delvik (or whatever it is called) and last install the new .zp file.
behedwin said:
Awesome now i have a good hint of what each thing are.
Now this lead me to some more questions.
Since i have already rooted my device. I have installed Avatar ROM and tested some others...
But i never made any backups... Is it to late for that?
Is my best choice to download Titanium Backup and backup everything with that application?
You said something else about Odin, how to backup aswell with that?
What is CWM and how does it differ from Rom Manager?
When i install a ROM i download a zip file, put it on my device SD card
Boot the phone in and wipe data, wipe cache, wipe delvik (or whatever it is called) and last install the new .zp file.
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CWM is clockword mod recovery. An advanced recovery which has more options than stock recovery. I guess you already has cwm. Probably it must be what you used to flash the Rom and clear cache. Now to Titanium backup, it backs up the whole phone, so do cwm. As we use CWM for our flashing and other things, cwm backups should be enough unless you got space on your sd to have many backup files. And if your phone is working perfectly right now then its never late to take a cwm backup as if you ever encounter a bootloop while tweaking, you can restore your phone. Sometimes even cwm fails to fix your phone. This is where Odin comes in handy. Odin is a pc software which can be used to flash the stock Rom of your device. You can search and find the Stock Rom for your device and region if you google. You can find how to flash using odin guides out there. Flashing stock rom via odin will remove every traces of ever tweaking your phone which includes rooting, flashing of custom roms and kernels,etc. Your device will be just like when you bought it. This is helpful when you want to take your phone to service centres as rooting and doing other stuffs will void your warranty. Hopes this helps...
haridevil99 said:
CWM is clockword mod recovery. An advanced recovery which has more options than stock recovery. I guess you already has cwm. Probably it must be what you used to flash the Rom and clear cache. Now to Titanium backup, it backs up the whole phone, so do cwm. As we use CWM for our flashing and other things, cwm backups should be enough unless you got space on your sd to have many backup files. And if your phone is working perfectly right now then its never late to take a cwm backup as if you ever encounter a bootloop while tweaking, you can restore your phone. Sometimes even cwm fails to fix your phone. This is where Odin comes in handy. Odin is a pc software which can be used to flash the stock Rom of your device. You can search and find the Stock Rom for your device and region if you google. You can find how to flash using odin guides out there. Flashing stock rom via odin will remove every traces of ever tweaking your phone which includes rooting, flashing of custom roms and kernels,etc. Your device will be just like when you bought it. This is helpful when you want to take your phone to service centres as rooting and doing other stuffs will void your warranty. Hopes this helps...
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Thank you.
I can tho not figure out how to know for sure if i have CWM or not. I have no apps called that.
And how do i do a CWM backup if i can start CWM some other way than using an app icon ?
behedwin said:
Thank you.
I can tho not figure out how to know for sure if i have CWM or not. I have no apps called that.
And how do i do a CWM backup if i can start CWM some other way than using an app icon ?
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CWM is a shell and not an app and it cannot be installed on android os so you cant access it through your Rom but you can run it whenever you need it but through stock recovery. CWM comes as a .zip file which should be selected from stock recovery or in other words flash it. It will open cwm recovery. And you can access advanced recovery options which stock recovery doesn support. Well search and download cwm for your device, place it sd card root(not inside any folder), run it using install update option on your stock recovery, it will open cwm which will be in yellow colour themed. Select backup and restore opt in it and select backup. That will take care of taking full backup of your device.
haridevil99 said:
CWM is a shell and not an app and it cannot be installed on android os so you cant access it through your Rom but you can run it whenever you need it but through stock recovery. CWM comes as a .zip file which should be selected from stock recovery or in other words flash it. It will open cwm recovery. And you can access advanced recovery options which stock recovery doesn support. Well search and download cwm for your device, place it sd card root(not inside any folder), run it using install update option on your stock recovery, it will open cwm which will be in yellow colour themed. Select backup and restore opt in it and select backup. That will take care of taking full backup of your device.
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Awesome, this thread have cleared many small things that come as so obvious for those that have done this for some time.
Perfect for me to quick understand what I am reading in threads and other sources.
I have now a CWM backup, Titan Backup and installed Odin and found my stock ROM to use if things goes to ****.
behedwin said:
Awesome, this thread have cleared many small things that come as so obvious for those that have done this for some time.
Perfect for me to quick understand what I am reading in threads and other sources.
I have now a CWM backup, Titan Backup and installed Odin and found my stock ROM to use if things goes to ****.
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Well.. Thats good to hear. And there was none other than me. And anyway a small precaution, never interrupt while you are flashing through Odin coz it will hard brick your device which is literally R.I.P to your device.