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is there a odin similiar software flash for g2x

When flashes go wrong things can get bad.with the vibrant I just odined to stock...through download load. Will we get something similiar for the greatest smartphone ever LG g2x

Luthien1 said:
When flashes go wrong things can get bad.with the vibrant I just odined to stock...through download load. Will we get something similiar for the greatest smartphone ever LG g2x
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NV Flash

its not the same. odin was a backup in case you couldnt even get into recovery, so there was download mode as a failsafe....which was through odin.. there has to be something like this available... anyone know.. or are we sol if we mess up bad

Im wondering this as well...my friend flashed a rom on the G2x and the wifi is broken. Rom manager won't flash into recovery. Used my Sim card which has internet but the phone won't recognize the internet. Tried the power+ volume buttons on boot up but nothing happens. Any idea on how to get back to stock? Rom is eagle's blood

You would need to flash CWM through NVflash
ROM manager will not flash CWM, it looks like it did but is actually a fake flash. That's why you need to do it through nv flash.
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Yes. You flash back to stock with the KDZ file and the KD flasher program.
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downloaded nvflash and drivers, have usb debug mode on but when i do anything on nvflash it says no usb connected?

nvm got everything done thanks a lot!

I believe that there's the program used to flash KDZ files, I guess that could restore EVERYTHING back to stock.

moshe22 said:
You would need to flash CWM through NVflash
ROM manager will not flash CWM, it looks like it did but is actually a fake flash. That's why you need to do it through nv flash.
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Koush and Cyanogen said ROM Manager is not doing a fake flash. After flashing the rom you have to immediately boot into recovery using rom manager. It them flashes the new recovery right after boot. The recovery partition is not available when the phone is in normal mode. If you don't do an immediate boot into recovery through ROM Manager then the recovery is not properly flashed. If you have updated to GB then the first time you must do the NVFlash method as there is no way to root the phone any other way at this time.

jboxer said:
Koush and Cyanogen said ROM Manager is not doing a fake flash. After flashing the rom you have to immediately boot into recovery using rom manager. It them flashes the new recovery right after boot. The recovery partition is not available when the phone is in normal mode. If you don't do an immediate boot into recovery through ROM Manager then the recovery is not properly flashed. If you have updated to GB then the first time you must do the NVFlash method as there is no way to root the phone any other way at this time.
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It is fake in the sense that no matter what you do it isn't on the actual recovery partition and if the phone goes to hell in a handbasket then you have to flash one through NVFLASH anyways. Koush just happens to have a vested interest in people using Rom Manager.

Yes, STAY THE HELL AWAY FROM ROM MANAGER. Seriously, you're just asking for trouble.

I use rom manager all the time. It works great for downloading and flashing roms on the fly... but just NVFlash first.
NVFlash takes like 3.5 seconds and your done. Nandroid backup and your good.
Then either download Rom manager or manually download and copy it to your SD card. Very very simple. Easiest phone ever to get going. You don't even need to worry about rooting first.
You'll gain root after flashing s custom rom. MIUI is my choice right now. CM7 is having problems after they merged the LG GB source.
MIUI 8.19 is found in the rom forums. Weapon is also nice but lacks some extras I'm used to.
LG G2x - 2.3.5 MIUI Love
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Rooted i9023, some help needed please!

Ok guys so I have managed to root my i9023 and flash clockwork recovery which was all good, I set about flashing some new roms via rom manager, again, all good.
So now I settle on this cm7 based rom which I love, used anim mod to get some nice transitions, then I used font changer.
All was good, then I decided that the font I was using was a bit ott so I decided to change it again, upon reboot it starts boot looping, bollocks !!!
So I try to get into clockwork recovery, and it seems to have gone back to the stock bootloader, grrrrr
I re flash clockwork, wipe / clear etc... then flash the rom again, but it would not flash, so I went to my backup of stock n flashed that, all good.
I then install rom manager again and flash the rom I liked again, this time no problem, but when it loads up the home button and search button are not working
So i decide on a factory reset, I select wipe everything including sd just to be sure but it comes up "error null"???
So now I wipe the sd manually and then do the reset and it works, ok, I re load everything on from scratch and all is good, but when I installed rom manager it says that clockwork recovery IS NOT installed again
Can anyone here work out from my ramblings WTF is going on???
I dont get why the font changer all of a sudden caused a boot loop, as I had changed font about 15 times with it without issue, also why clockwork recovery will not stick anymore after a reboot, when before it did and I have not changed a thing!
Cheers!!!

Rename install-recovery.sh in system/etc to something else, flash cwm recovery again, this time it'll stick until you install a stock rom again.
Rom manager is causing more problems than it's saving time, hence I don't use it.
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Thanks for the reply, can you go into detail on what exactly I need to do to get clockwork to stick? I still hold noob status!
Thanks!
Also rom manager seems fine, I flashed loads of roms with it with no issue, I also rebooted a few time at least between flashes so I dont get why clockwork suddenly decided to jump ship.
It was the font changer that f&%ked it all up for me, or anim mod (which I wont touch now even tho I miss the wicked transitions).

When using Font Changer, it's better to do a reboot manually instead of selecting Reboot from within the program. That sometimes cause me a boot loop too. But after turning the phone off / on a.k.a. "reboot manually", the phone boots fine.
To elaborate what rentaric said, use Root Explorer and go to /system/etc/, there should be a file named install-recovery.sh. This file is responsible for flashing the stock recovery every time the phone boots. If you rename it to something else e.g. install-recovery.sh.bak then CWM will stick on reboot.

Thanks, but when I get into the /system/etc/ there is not file called install-recovery.sh.
The only .sh in there is init.goldfish.sh
Any ideas???

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Flash cwm rec and either stock or custom rom.
Stock rom incl the .sh you want.
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I've read on these forums that using Clockwork on the I9023 is a no-go. Serves up incompatible ROMs, etc.
BTW, I'm looking to root my I9023. Can the OP please point me to the method he used.

athani said:
I've read on these forums that using Clockwork on the I9023 is a no-go. Serves up incompatible ROMs, etc.
BTW, I'm looking to root my I9023. Can the OP please point me to the method he used.
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LINK: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1007782
Please read the whole thread, if I had it would have saved me half a night scratching my head...lol

rentaric said:
Flash cwm rec and either stock or custom rom.
Stock rom incl the .sh you want.
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Yeah I have a custom rom installed, supercm7, but the install-recovery.sh. that I have been told is causing the problem of clockwork disappearing is not in the /system/etc/ folder, so I am asking if there is anything else that could be causing me to have to re flash clockwork via my pc every time I want to change rom?
I will tell you exactly what happens.
1. I go into rom manager
2. download a rom and choose flash rom from sd card
3. it asked if I want to wipe etc, i select yes
4. phone re boots and I get ! with an android
5. I pull the battery, hold volume up n power and boot / connect to my pc
6. re flash clockwork via SDK
7.the phone then load the new rom on its own
Before it would just flash the rom without me having to install clockwork again.

install-recovery.sh is only there if you're using a stock android rom.
"so I am asking if there is anything else that could be causing me to have to re flash clockwork via my pc every time I want to change rom?"
ROM Manager.
It's not a reliable working tool for ME as I'm changing ROMs/kernels on a regular basis and it might not work reliable the one time you need it.

Thanks for that, I may just sack rom manager then.
Its a shame as I flashed several roms with it without issue.
Oh well, loving this supercm7 so gonna stick with it untill an update comes out.
Many thanks to all who have replied, clicking the thanks buttons now!

I had the same problem but i installed a previus recovery and works fine formeforme
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Backing up.

Ok, so I searched all the threads that came up and no luck in answering my question.
When I do a back up in CWM under "back up" on restore/backup, what does it back up? Is it an exact copy of my phone? Just the ROM?
Please and thank you

Think of a backup as an exact snapshot of your phone at that moment. All of your apps, settings, messages, everything is saved. If you restore a backup it will restore your phone to exactly the same state it was when the backup was created.

phburks said:
Think of a backup as an exact snapshot of your phone at that moment. All of your apps, settings, messages, everything is saved. If you restore a backup it will restore your phone to exactly the same state it was when the backup was created.
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How sure are you of this? lol..

Well we have all trusted this method forever but here u go
Think of it as basically turning ur phone off and then ****ing around with someone elses phone then turning ur phone back on
So its is a 100 percent copy of ur phone
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Paul Nur said:
How sure are you of this? lol..
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I do it all the time. Several times per week as I try out different roms, kernels, edits, etc. Works fine for me. But I guess there's only one way you'll know for sure. Lol
One suggestion: make sure you are making your backups from the copy of cwm you nvflashed to your G2X, not rom manager.

phburks said:
I do it all the time. Several times per week as I try out different roms, kernels, edits, etc. Works fine for me. But I guess there's only one way you'll know for sure. Lol
One suggestion: make sure you are making your backups from the copy of cwm you nvflashed to your G2X, not rom manager.
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I only use ROM manager to boot into recov. i'm to lazy to hold buttons and ugh i'm already tired talking about it, lol.

Paul Nur said:
I only use ROM manager to boot into recov. i'm to lazy to hold buttons and ugh i'm already tired talking about it, lol.
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The copy of recovery you boot into from rom manager is not the same one as if you nvflash it. If you use rom manager to boot into recovery and then make backups, you may run into issues when you try to restore that backup. Just a friendly word of warning.
Nvflash recovery if you haven't already, boot into recovery holding power + volume down, and then make your backups from there.

phburks said:
The copy of recovery you boot into from rom manager is not the same one as if you nvflash it. If you use rom manager to boot into recovery and then make backups, you may run into issues when you try to restore that backup. Just a friendly word of warning.
Nvflash recovery if you haven't already, boot into recovery holding power + volume down, and then make your backups from there.
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Yes! I noticed this, my CWM version is like 5. something, and when I boot (physically?) it is like 4. something and its orange vs. blue when I use ROM manager, what up with that?

Paul Nur said:
Yes! I noticed this, my CWM version is like 5. something, and when I boot (physically?) it is like 4. something and its orange vs. blue when I use ROM manager, what up with that?
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Rom manager only "fake flashes" recovery. What exactly that means? I'm not sure lol, but I do know that it's not a persistent flash. It seems to work fine for flashing roms but I've read about issues with performing nandroid backups with the rom manager clockworkmod recovery. I tried it once and couldn't restore the backup so since then I've always used the recovery that i installed with nvflash.
The nvflash method installs recovery so that it's persistent and can be booted into using power + volume down, even when your phone won't boot into the normal OS.

ROM Manager

ROM Manager has an option to "Backup Current ROM" and "Manage and Restore Backups". Can all that be used on stock (odexed), rooted ROM?
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I noticed this feature as well. I personally never tried but i am not sure how it would work. It might create a file in the the clockwork mod folder. But i doubt it works. You could always try it out. the worst it could do it bootloop your phone and you can just fxz? haha.

I don't have a method yet for flashing a fxz file. I'm on linux. Ive never been forced to learn how to do it. You try. ;-)
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Haha. That is a great challenge. My phone is charging right now. We need to find another "victim" to do it. I don't think ROM toolbox is very reliable though. Or at least not as reliable as CWM

I use this app to backup and restore apps.
Don't know for sure to backup and restore rom.
Need someone who has warranty to try this though LOL
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kindacrazyazn said:
Haha. That is a great challenge. My phone is charging right now. We need to find another "victim" to do it. I don't think ROM toolbox is very reliable though. Or at least not as reliable as CWM
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We're talking about ROM Manager by Koushik Dutta. Not "ROM Toolbox". Right?
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As far as backing up and restoring a stock rom, I fairly certain that it will. However, it depends on a CWM mod recovery and at the moment all we have is a frankinmod recovery and Rom Manager doesn't even acknowledge it.
So, if we had CWM in better shape, or a way for Rom Manager to see it, then everything else would fall into place.
On a random note, Rom Manager will boot into recovery with our frankinmod, but that's about it.

@41rw4lk
These are exactly the concerns i have.
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I was referring to ROM Toolbox but i personally never trusted ROM Toolbox or ROM manager. But that is just me personally.

ROM Manager makes things a whole lot easier for flashing ROMs and backing up/restoring. It's developed by koushikdutta, the same person that develops CWM, so everything should be seamlessly integrated. But as 41rw4lk stated, ROM Manager only partially detects our modified, bootstrapped recovery (it can boot into it but no automation). However, you can get it to work on the A2 . Apply the A2 bootstrap, then flash the Bionic recovery from ROM Manager, then re-apply the A2 bootstrap.
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kindacrazyazn said:
I was referring to ROM Toolbox but i personally never trusted ROM Toolbox or ROM manager. But that is just me personally.
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Using ROM Toolbox for flashing/restoring/backing up/etc only works if you have the premium ROM Manager. It uses methods from the premium ROM Manager to do just what ROM Manager does. So ROM Toolbox works although there isn't really a reason to use it.

I did away with the bootstrapper and use the cwm on every boot method, which is built into the Sonya rom now I believe. Can I flash the Bionic recovery still without messing everything up?

41rw4lk said:
I did away with the bootstrapper and use the cwm on every boot method, which is built into the Sonya rom now I believe. Can I flash the Bionic recovery still without messing everything up?
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yes it will work finr as i have done so. Also, the options in rom manager that alow you to backup or restore a rom do work as i have used both mutiple times with out a problem. I just flashed the new lithium rom today right after i backed up my atrix sonya rom using the backup option.

@cogeary
Is there a method to remove the Bionic Recovery? When the Atrix 2 Recovery becomes available would we install that over the Bionic?
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rob219 said:
yes it will work finr as i have done so. Also, the options in rom manager that alow you to backup or restore a rom do work as i have used both mutiple times with out a problem. I just flashed the new lithium rom today right after i backed up my atrix sonya rom using the backup option.
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I just flashed the Bionic recovery and it works perfectly with Rom Manager. One click backup. Thanks for the tip.

KEB64 said:
@cogeary
Is there a method to remove the Bionic Recovery? When the Atrix 2 Recovery becomes available would we install that over the Bionic?
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im not sure about removing it from out phone, but i do know if we ever get an officail or unofficial recovery made just for the atrix 2 you would just either flash it using rom manager (if its in the list of devices) or flash the zip in recovery and reboot into your rom or reboot recovery to check it out.

Technically, the recoveries we're flashing now aren't replacing the system recovery, they're just put in the system and loaded like any other script. If you try to get to recovery manually with buttons, you hit the default system recovery. If we ever get an unlocked bootloader and an official CWM then we're golden and can overwrite the system recovery. So uninstalling everything else should be a matter of deleting scripts, or just not build them into roms anymore since we won't need to.
It's late, so if I'm talking out my ass I apologize. I will say, I appreciate all the work and help from everyone here.

[Q] What exactly does ROM Manager's fake flash do?

Simple question that I can't find an answer to...
What exactly does ROM Manager's flash option do? If it's a fake flash where does it write the recovery program to and how does it get the phone to boot it? I don't see any kind of update zip on either the internal or external SD so it must have written it to one of the partitions on the block device, but which one and what did it replace?
The phone is a Wind Mobile G2X not a T-Mobile and stock recovery is nothing more than factory reset + reboot. As far as I can tell it's still there and I can still get into it with power+volume-down at boot, so that's not what ROM Manager replaced I guess.

yuma80 said:
Simple question that I can't find an answer to...
What exactly does ROM Manager's flash option do? If it's a fake flash where does it write the recovery program to and how does it get the phone to boot it? I don't see any kind of update zip on either the internal or external SD so it must have written it to one of the partitions on the block device, but which one and what did it replace?
The phone is a Wind Mobile G2X not a T-Mobile and stock recovery is nothing more than factory reset + reboot. As far as I can tell it's still there and I can still get into it with power+volume-down at boot, so that's not what ROM Manager replaced I guess.
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The problem with ROM Manager is that it messes up the files when flashing a ROM or any file. It is more advised to use CMW Recovery.

yuma80 said:
Simple question that I can't find an answer to...
What exactly does ROM Manager's flash option do? If it's a fake flash where does it write the recovery program to and how does it get the phone to boot it? I don't see any kind of update zip on either the internal or external SD so it must have written it to one of the partitions on the block device, but which one and what did it replace?
The phone is a Wind Mobile G2X not a T-Mobile and stock recovery is nothing more than factory reset + reboot. As far as I can tell it's still there and I can still get into it with power+volume-down at boot, so that's not what ROM Manager replaced I guess.
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Rom Manager should not be used on the G2x. If you flash a rom and something goes wrong and you can not boot you are dead in the water. Use Nvidia CWM instead.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056847

Yes thanks. I understand that I shouldn't use ROM Manager, but I want to know what it does and why it doesn't work. For starters anybody know where it writes CWM to?
Worse comes to worse I'm just going to dump /dev/block/mmc* and look for strings or disassemble the apk or something...

yuma80 said:
Yes thanks. I understand that I shouldn't use ROM Manager, but I want to know what it does and why it doesn't work. For starters anybody know where it writes CWM to?
Worse comes to worse I'm just going to dump /dev/block/mmc* and look for strings or disassemble the apk or something...
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I've always been curious about the details of a 'fake flash' too.. please let us know if you figure out any details.

Rom manager has been around since the original Droid from Verizon. The fake flash you refer to isn't actually a fake flash. It actually flashes CWM recovery. It just doesn't work on this particular phone. I may be wrong on the exact details but the G2x partitions and drivers require the use of NVflAsh to install the CWM. However, there are many phones that once they have been rooted, the user can install Rom Manager and use the Flash Recovery option to install their CWM recovery. There are also times when a particular recovery version (ie.. 5.0.5. Or 4.6.3) works better than another on one particular phone. Rom manager allows users an easy way of flashing between those CWM versions by simply pushing the flash button.
So in summary of a long response... it is only called a fake flash because it looks like it worked on our phone , but in fact it does not. We have to use NVflash to flash our recovery.
If it looks like I'm remotely right ( which I think I am..) hit that thanks button. (Shameless request, I know)

From my understanding, the "fake flash" that ROM Manager does is that it doesn't actually flash CWM like NVFlash does (on the recovery partition) but still puts the CWM files on your SD card saying that you do have it installed (sdcard/clockworkmod) so when you try to flash/install a ROM, it can't put it anywhere. I don't think it will flash anything, but people mess up their devices by wiping data/system and such...
OR...
Maybe it does flash CWM to your device but it has the partition tables all messed up?
One or the other lol, it's just a guess for both options but I believe the first one is right.

I've wondered for a while why rom manager is included in roms for the g2x when it's not advised to use it
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I've wondered for a while why rom manager is included in roms for the g2x when it's not advised to use it
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To rename your nandroid backups .

buru898 said:
To rename your nandroid backups .
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I never thought about that. I was always unsure what flashing CWM with ROM Manager would do when it's already on my phone using NVFlash.

Since our phones have a dual partition in it. I think it flashes to the internal 1 gig memory so then loading another rom writes over it.
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OK, I finally had some time to do some poking around. Some of this is guess-work since I was too lazy to verify 100% exactly what it does when you specify that you're running a G2X.
Anyway, in it's settings DB it says this phone's recovery partition is read-only, and there's no flash command set, so I guess it doesn't try to flash it directly. It looks like it's relying on the Google stock recovery image to do the flashing instead, so it downloads a recovery-update.zip to the SD card and writes a script to /cache/recovery and reboots the phone into recovery mode. Google stock recovery would execute the script in /cache/recovery, which says to apply recovery-update.zip, but the actual stock recovery on the phone is either not Google stock, or has been modified; it doesn't bother to execute scripts, it just does a factory-reset (clear /cache, /data, etc) so that's why it doesn't work.
Meanwhile, ROM Manager writes to it's DB that it just flashed CWM version X.Y.Z and happily displays that every time it runs, even though that's not true.
I used NVFlash and moved on with my life.