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How to make Pocket PC 2003 input software work on WM 5? (Celluon Laserkey)

I'm pissed. I ordered the Celluon Laserkey CL800BT as a mobile keyboard. But it appears it still has not had drivers/installation software created for WM 5. Nowhere on the seller's website did it mention this very critical piece of information. The Celluon website utterly fails to even mention the existence of WM 5 as something they either support or don't support, it's like they're stuck in 2003.
So, the question is... Is it possible to get this thing working on WM 5? I'm not sure if the input panel changes from 2003 to 5 are so big that the drivers supplied won't work or if it might be possible to just fiddle with the registry keys enough to get it to use the 2003 drivers. I figured out that certain registry structure changes were made in how the input software gets listed and so I tried to "upgrade" the entry for the Laserkey and that got the "Projection Keyboard" appearing in the list, but when I select it it just switches to the built-in WM keyboard input.
So, please, all you super clever people, help!!!
Quincy

Wow, that's a neat product. Thing is there is no difference in software keyboards between WM 5 and 2003 but what you have is a hardware keyboard that connects via BT.
If the drivers don't work it means they don't support your devices hardware or BT stack.
Unfortunately short of writing new drivers i do not see a solution to this.
I assume you tried installing it using the WM 2003 setup?
If it doesn't work i think you should ask for your money back.

Thanks, yeah, I tried the install for PPC 2003 and that completes, but as I mentioned the "Projection Keyboard" option in the SIP list does NOT appear. So I figured how what registry tweaking would make it appear but selecting it doesn't work. I changed the registry to point to the DLL I presumed should be called (there were only 2 that came with it, and I tried both) but nothing. I assume the SIP hooks into the DLL/etc. have changed from 2003 to 5.
It is an amazing product, if only it worked. Celluon must be in bad shape or something for them not to have current drivers (I contacted their tech support and have not heard back yet...). There are few things more annoying than having in your hands something that is amazingly cool and having absolutely no ability to use it.
I talked to the seller and it looks like they'll take it back, but I'm stunned they wouldn't have a big warning or at least a little warning/mention of the fact that it won't work on the current PPC OS.
So, warning to all, don't buy the Celluon Laserkey if you've got WM 5!
Quincy

One thing I just thought of, probably should have mentioned it before (this is really stupid of me):
Maybe the DLL you are messing with is not a SIP DLL at all? This is a hardware keyboard and it should work no matter what software keyboard is selected.
So try to do a clean installation (so your registry tweaks won't get in the way) and just open Word for example and type.
Also maybe it needs parring or some special BT settings?

Good suggestion, Levenum. I don't know exactly it is supposed to work, but I do know that you use the SIP selector to choose the "Projection Keyboard" and then it takes input from the keyboard. So, I'm pretty sure it really does act as a SIP. I've tried re-installing a few times, along the lines you suggest, having cleared everything out but still no luck.
I guess I'll wait another couple days and ship it back. I've written several times to Celluon but have yet to hear anything.
Quincy

Hmm, if they have written it this way (its possible of course) it would be a very stupid approach.
I had a chance to use a couple of hardware keyboards and they usually work separately from the SIP system be it BT or IR keyboard.
Strange that company creating a product primarily for mobile devices seems to know so little about them.

I too have the same problem with my IPAQ hx2490b running WM5.
I have found this web site which hosts a Celluon Laserkey driver for WM5 which installs OK without any registry changes.
The problem is that when the Projection Keyboard is seleted from the Input list and from the keyboard icon, I get a message to say BTM Cannot get current state. If I exit from the driver screen, I then get an error to say that the serial port is in use by another device which should be stopped before trying to use the Projection Keyboard again.
I have removed all of my other BT pairings, done a hard reset and started from scratch to no avail.
The CL800BT pairs OK until I load the driver. If anyone has any ideas for a workaround or has had success in getting this keyboard to work under WM5 I would be grateful for your advice.
I have emailed Celluon but have had no reply. The UK distributor has been trying to sort this for me for a week with no success.
IPAQ hx2490b
ROM 1.02.h
OS 5.1.1702 (Build 14366.1.0.1)
http://www.plawa.com/support/downloads/drivers/laserkey/

Laserkey and hp2490
Thanks for the info guys I found the web site and installed the 2005 drivers but as I expected I have the same problemb< ihave tried Celluon (waste of time never reply)
Looks like my new toy will have to go back unless anyone finds the answer

sucessfull test
Dear all,
there is a WM5-driver on the plawa page aviable -
and it's working as well on WM6 (testet with Hermes)!
okay, that's not a surprise - but the german shortcuts
are working as well!

can I have a link to the plawa page you refer to? I want to use it on wm6 too.
thanks

GPS software for Tornado

Hello you fine bunch of people out there! I was wondering what was the best gps software for the tornado? And if someone can post a link to where I can find it.THANKS!!!

Use Route 66 Mobile 7 for Windows Mobile Smartphone
Code:
http://rapidshare.com/files/31361762/Route_66_Mobile_7_WMS_7.0.3040_EasyInstall.zip

not working on my imate SP5. Application starts, shows startup screen, apparently connects with GPS, and shuts down. Any ideas?

of course not, nobody on here knows how to fix anything! I've been looking all day for an answer as to why route 66 7 keeps telling me that there isn't enough memory to load the map and then shuts down, nobody knows. Plenty of threads from like 2006! but nobody knows! AHGHHHHHHHH!!!!! I probably won't get a decent answer for that anytime soon either. Good luck man! and sorry bout this.

try an map for smartphone and will load
i had the same problem
Maps for PPC are not working
Maps for Symbian are not working
Please buy the apropiate map
Here WAREZ is not allowed

here is my route 66 without map
it is working on Tornado and Vox
http://rapidshare.com/files/96949057/route66.rar.html
You need to buy an SMARTPHONE map for your location

I was looking for GPS software myself a while ago. What I finally decided on was GPSDash (http://wimobi.com/gpsdash/overview.sph2.php?pid=sph2). What I liked was the ability to use custom maps, which are easily made with Google map downloader (for either satellite maps or street maps)
You have to register both to get full functionality and there's no navigation function, but it works well enough for dataloging and knowing exactly where you are.
Aside from that, I also recommend the Google Maps application for smartphones if you have a data plan. It ties with your GPS and, even if you don't have a GPS, gives you an approximate location based on cell tower triangulation.
One more site to mention is http://www.maps-gps-info.com/fgpfw.html. I stumbled across it looking for j2me apps for an old Nextel phone I have. There's lots of smartphone apps there, but I haven't tried most of them.

GPSVP is free too

WARpig5 said:
Hello you fine bunch of people out there! I was wondering what was the best gps software for the tornado? And if someone can post a link to where I can find it.THANKS!!!
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Have you tried the Windows Live Search? It includes Maps, Driving Directions, From-To-Reverse Route, and many other little features. Maybe not as powerfull as the paid GPS softwares, but surely has got me out of trouble on the road many times. I can post you link if you care to see it, or just search for "Windows Live Search". Its a 700+ Cab. Good Luck

Tomtom Navigator 8 PDA?

Ehi guys, know something about? Check out this pic I found, think we should hold our breath, 8.0 and 8.1 on their way!
EDIT: picture deleted, see post n.3.

the picture is very small can't see a thing really.

hyellow said:
the picture is very small can't see a thing really.
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You're right, but pic size is limited here on XDA. However, here it is, original size!
You can see "PNA/PDA - 7.9, 8.0, 8.1" in a column on the right.

Where did you get that picture, cos to me it means nothing.
Looks like someone just made up a list of what maps work on what versions of the software. Doesn't look like it came from TomTom themselves.

its right that is used for people who crack maps so they know which version to use, as for tomtom 8 i think not, as when i asked tomtom they said basically that pda owners have been put on the bottom of list for updates and other features like lane guidence.

Don't hold your breath. TomTom don't really care about PDA users these days.

You got it, I got this in a file sharing site in their GPS section... it isn't warez, just a compatibility map which tickled my immagination, so I was asking if anyone got any info about it because I couldn't find anything googling.

i do think tt8 is coming... though by that time they've already moved to version 9 or 10. so pda user will lack behind again.

any updates on that?
will there be a new version for ppc?
or will tomtom just go for the iphone?

Any news guys?
Hi,
I was updating a tomtom for my friend with 9.xxx nav core and latest maps and guys, it is awesome.
Why is everyone avoiding to keep developing apps for wince when there is still plenty of user who would pay for it?
Tomtom is pushing through to bloody iphone putting PDA versions totaly asside.
Is it not possible to port the PNA version to PDA somehow? Probably not as it would have been done before
It might be due to bussiness with iphone as they have a contract with them for sure and apple might have a condition that Tomtom won't be developing a PDA application no more. Very sad.

Indeed, I have spent too many days for a qualified navigator software since Navigator 6 for WM 6.5 has been terminated and there is no update on the maps anymore. I would have to accept a fact that drop my X51v and just use my Nokia E5....

hi @ all
any updates on that?
will there be a new version for ppc?

I think Tomtom have stopped developing for PPC. They are concentrating on PNA devices only.

New to windows mobile Help please

I went from iphone to android to webos to comeback to android.
I use google voice. I use last.fm to scrobble. And pandora.
None of this are on windows mobile marketplace.
I just got the htc hd2 today while i love the hardware and everything. Comparing other mobile os's windows mobile sucks in terms of
app choices.
Can somebody please guide me in the right direction for replacements
or if the programs are available please tell me how to get them?
I also noticed my email inbox looks like it never left the 90's. Html emails are not being displayed and pictures are not loading automatically.
Trying to adapt need it for work so i must make the best out of it

GNOve said:
I went from iphone to android to webos to comeback to android.
I use google voice. I use last.fm to scrobble. And pandora.
None of this are on windows mobile marketplace.
I just got the htc hd2 today while i love the hardware and everything. Comparing other mobile os's windows mobile sucks in terms of
app choices.
Can somebody please guide me in the right direction for replacements
or if the programs are available please tell me how to get them?
I also noticed my email inbox looks like it never left the 90's. Html emails are not being displayed and pictures are not loading automatically.
Trying to adapt need it for work so i must make the best out of it
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Okay... look here for all the apps we use on our hd2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=603880
On Windows Mobile.. you can look for apps outside of the "marketplace".. you download them as a .cab file (on pc or phone) and place them on the sd card if you want... which out the box is unique to windows mobile (doesn't eat up phone memory (but not that we lack it on the new hd2 lol))
Once the .cab file is on your phone/sd card... in the phone you go to file explorer (in the start menu)... click on it and navigate to where you placed the .cab file and run it. You can save the installation to the "device" because there is plenty of memory and tends to run better.

To awnser your questions;
[1] Google voice idk, but im sure google will have a wm app out soon (if not already, im not 'in' google voice so dunno)
[2] Last.fm Googling around a bit i see they (or someone) released a windows mobile app in 2008, but all links to it trow a 404, so check out their mobile forums, specifically this sticky
[3] Pandora, just read this; http://www.pandora.com/on-windowsmobile (Point your mobile phone's browser to www.pandora.com)
[4] Incomplete emails Thats just a setting since most people use gprs/hsdpa, im sure you can change it, either somewhere in the settings or trough a registry edit
Though i just have to say/write this, DONT GET ME WRONG but honestly, you shouldn't try to make this like your iPhone, although Microsoft/HTC are clearly trying to 'collect' some iPhone users, overall the HD2 isn't user friendly enough to be a iPhone (yes i sayd it) That doesn't mean you shouldn't stick with the HD2 though, just forget the iPhone
To put some strength behind my 'user friendly' statement, if your ROM is from before 1.66, the HD2 will have quite some silly bugs, like SMS messages that get stuck in the outbox but only (if your lucky) send 3 weeks later, problems with the camera, not beeing able to read/write large miniSD cards & more.
On the other hand, if your in any way IT related or just in general good with computers, this is currently the best phone on the market (counting HD2 and HD2b as one) it does the latest wireless connection methods, has build-in gps, compass and g-sensor, a 1ghz gpu, a 'gpu' (kinda) and more geeky features, and hey, it can emulate most psx games at full speed (www.fpsece.net)
I'd just strongly suggest you to get a new ROM from the HTC site, assuming you have a device with pre 1.66
I hope the above helped a bit, not trying to make windows mobile even more confusing for you, just trying to tell you that it cant really be compared to iPhone/Android, it can be compared to windows, there are actually millions of apps, nobody ever felt the need for a windows marketplace until iPhone got one and Microsoft had to compete, at which they currently fail hard i agree, the windows marketplace thing is a joke, just use google.

[Q] Mango/NoDo Email Reply Not Including Original

Greetings:
I have searched high and low on many forums and boards for more info on this and not found much so here goes;
I use my WP7 phone for work (I have the HTC Trophy and am on Verizon). I am connected to an exchange server and everything works great EXCEPT email replies; the original email text is NOT included and needs to be especially for work. Reviewing other threads across the web it seems this is normally enabled.
I checked with VZW second tier support and supposedly this feature is turned off on the Trophy. Fine, so I dug around, found an obscure WM6.5 reference to a registry key, poked around my NoDo registry and by trial and error was able to enable it by adding this;
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Settings
Value Name – IncludeOriginal
Value Type – Integer
Value Data – 1
Works great. Now, I am a registered dev and went to upgrade to Mango 7712and did everything possible I could think of (and yes, I know the provxml methods and able to edit my reg in Mango) but I can not get this back no matter where or what reg edit. I also came across someone else on T-Mobile that had this feature enabled on NoDo and went to the Mango RTM and now it does not work.
So, did Mango break this completely? Anyone looked at this on Mango or have any idea what reg key needs to be hacked on Mango?
P.S. This thread might be better in the dev/hack board but I am a Noob.

Digging around some more and need feedback; does the provxml reg edit for Mango on the VZW CDMA Trophy 7 work under any circumstances? It appears it is but it may also be keeping the provxml edits I make at the mid-step point in the Mango process (applied at the 7403 rev before proceeding to 7712). I make the provxml edits in Nodo using the older HTC Connection Setup (new rev does not work as described somewhere else). I then use it again at the 7403 step but have to switch to the new rev on 7712 (old no longer runs). Once I run the new rev HTC connection in Mango I can launch TouchXplorer and am unlocked. I can do all the same provxml processes (email new CustClear.provxml, copy, move, etc) but I am not positive edits are being made. But if my previous edits are kept (which all appear to be) why does my IncludeOriginal key not carry over?
Another note; it appears the main location in NoDo for this hack was HKLM (found using Reg Editor) and not in the HKCU like WM6. Looking at Mango registry dumps this is now in HKCU; is there more restrictive access to HKCU on the CDMA Mango or any version of WP7? I added a HKCU hack to the provxml at all steps just to have it there but did no good.
This brings up a good question - can you edit HKCU the same way as HKLM? I also see the key location I am after moved from Default.hv to User.hv when going from NoDo to Mango; does the provxml work on the whole registry or just the Default hive?
P.S. I have built a process to even get to where I can have TouchXplorer run on the CDMA device from a lot of other threads in this forum and greatly appreciate having everyone's knowledge to use. Thanks!

I am going to add this to the Dev and Hack board.

Odd.. Mine does reply w original text since 7004..
Sent from my LG Optimus 7

I'm having the very same issue. Am using my Dell Venue Pro to connect to my work email, via an Exchange server.
Problem exists in Windows Phone 7, but also in Mango Beta 2. The emai threads show up on my phone when I'm typing a reply, but the recipients don't see them, which often leaves them not knowing what my reply emails are aout.
For now, I'm working around the issue by forwarding emails back tot hem and comenting in the top section.
Would greatly appreciate any help that could be offered to resolve this.

I'm having exactly the exact same problem. It begun with the installation of Mango beta 1. Today I got the official Mango 7720 and the problem is still there. I'm connecting to an Exchange 2003 SP2 infrastructure. I've deleted my account on the phone and create it back and the issue is still there.
Have someone found a solution for this one?

No news on getting this to work (and I have tried, trust me!)...eraffone even mentioned to have this issue. This is not good and I even sent a request to "the phone" at MS about this and got no answer to as why (he did say he would look into it but that was many weeks ago; I have pinged him twice since with nothing).
I am curious to see what MS puts on their compatibility page for comparing WP7 versions with EAS versions and what is and is not supported (but I am guessing this one is a bug or an oversight).
Anyone on the forums having better luck with this using EAS 2007 or higher? This pisses me off and I am NOT upgrading (and down the road who knows what I will end up doing)

WP7 & Exchange 2003
I will also send a request to the "The Phone" with the issue maybe the more noise we make the better chance we have of getting a fix.
I was really banking on that official 7.5 (mango) release would fix this issue. We can't be the only ones who have Exchange 2003 on there corporate networks.
If anyone gets any new information please share it with us.
Thanks
Eric

GO VOTE ON WP7 - this issue is there!!!!
http://windowsphone.uservoice.com/f...-2003-email-reply-issue?ref=comments#comments

Same problem here Started with Mango Beta... My customers are getting confused when they reply to an email several time and I respond with a yes or no they have no idea what I am responding to.

This is a severe deal breaker for me, enough to make me switch back to Android. I have to be able to reply to e-mails without breaking the entire chain or I might as well just get another device.

Everyone vote up the WinPhone Feature Suggestion here:
http://windowsphone.uservoice.com/f...fix-exchange-2003-email-reply-issue?ref=title
And the issues on the Windows Phone answers board here:
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...l-issues/6d00949e-75ef-4364-af84-509faa7cee3e
Then tweet @WinPhoneSupport and the rest of the Windows Phone team. Our voice must be heard!
Thanks!!!

Odd, we have exchange 2010, i have a surround with Mango on it... works fine. Are you using the official released mango? I never had to do any edits. 3 others at work with trophies have no issue either.

Yea, that is odd because mine has done it sine 7004 too.... using LG Quantum - updated to 7720 - and it still does it.

ROCOAFZ said:
Odd, we have exchange 2010, i have a surround with Mango on it... works fine. Are you using the official released mango? I never had to do any edits. 3 others at work with trophies have no issue either.
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I don't know what version of exchange my company is using right now (they are a big enterprise shop) but I'm almost positive it didn't used to do this. They are however migrating to Exchange 2010 so maybe it will go away for me. This is still a huge issue though.

ROCOAFZ said:
Odd, we have exchange 2010, i have a surround with Mango on it... works fine. Are you using the official released mango? I never had to do any edits. 3 others at work with trophies have no issue either.
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Yeah official Mango its only any issue with Exchange 2003. 07/2010 are fine.

Houston, we have a solution;
http://wmpoweruser.com/windows-phon...40-coming-to-fix-exchange-server-2003-issues/