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ACE VS LeeDroid

these two are my top two ROMs can any one here tell me which one you guys use and why?
I'm thinking about the ACE ROM... because of the ROM manager support. I want to know how good the battery is one VS the other??

I'm running the most current version of leedroid and have been for about a week now it is the best Rom I have found on this site by far! I use my phone for work so it gets used a lot I'm going on 16 hours without a charge and still have 49% left! BTW I did flash the recommended radio they have listed on their post on this site if u need more info just let me know
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Thremix said:
these two are my top two ROMs can any one here tell me which one you guys use and why?
I'm thinking about the ACE ROM... because of the ROM manager support. I want to know how good the battery is one VS the other??
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Let me say it in a nice way before others flame you. This seems like the common thread that is opened: which one is the best or better rom? There is no such thing as that in the android community. Everyone has a different opinion so IMHO that wouldn't help much. Just try both of them out to see which one you like more.

I've used both, and I have to say, the battery life on LeeDroid is far superior for me than on Ace.

dooyoo222 said:
Let me say it in a nice way before others flame you. This seems like the common thread that is opened: which one is the best or better rom? There is no such thing as that in the android community. Everyone has a different opinion so IMHO that wouldn't help much. Just try both of them out to see which one you like more.
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Try out each for a time and see how you like them. each one might have different quirks that make or break the ROM. I found Ace more stable on my phone, but tried LeeDroid and had issues with the speakerphone being echoey.
good luck!

Having used both;
Ace - Smooth, no errors, Bluetooth sometimes goes in and out, Signal strength was great for me, Battery was A-Ok. Even when streaming the battery stayed nice and charged.
LeeDriod - Smooth, Fast with the OC , a few errors here and there, FC's here and there for apps. (Sirius will lock up) No issue with blue tooth, Signal strength is so-so for me on this one. Battery life is ok when not streaming, but when plugged in streaming the battery would not gain any charge.
Leedriod prolly looks a little better. But I think Ace is stronger stability wise.
Personally I love to flash the phone to see little things/tweaks each rom brings. But I almost always return to a stock rom.
Basically I do a rom back up for each Rom I install. I configure it and place every app/game on it that I use. I remove anything I hate/don't want and then back it up. I then place the back up on my PC. When I want to go back I copy it to the CWM Backup folder and just recover to it.

Lol I like that... The version of leedroid I speak of is 3.0.2 I find the two roms to he identical. With tweaks done to the operating system it self...
I like that ACE has rom manager support...
But I like that leedroid was built from the ground up and people reporting great battery life...
I'm torn lol

I have flashed all the ROMs and I'm staying with LeeDroid
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I honestly wouldn't put too much stock in ROM Manager support. For my purposes, it wasn't a big deal. If you have the XDA app, Lee's FTP downloads are smooth and easy, and it doesn't take much to get them to the right spot with a file manager if you know where you're looking.

tweaked said:
Basically I do a rom back up for each Rom I install. I configure it and place every app/game on it that I use. I remove anything I hate/don't want and then back it up. I then place the back up on my PC. When I want to go back I copy it to the CWM Backup folder and just recover to it.
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i tried this and have a folder on my hard drive for this. but when i copied it back, i got an md5 mismatch error
any idea why this could have happened?

if you renamed them there can be no spacing between words

inspired55 said:
if you renamed them there can be no spacing between words
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that might have been it, it worked after i renamed it. it may have also been an error in copying it over last time. thank

I ran saga before ace.. frankly saga felt better than ace. I can't put my finger on anything specific, ace just had quirks- things not behaving as I thought they should. I changed from ace to leedroid and I'm happy. The only problem I have with leedroid is the volume isn't as loud through the headphone jack as CM7 is.

The main selling point for leedroid was tthe battery saving... But I'm really not seeing much improvement... Its OK but 10hours of normal use Max...
I think that's because of me messing around with the radio flashing and such...
I'm on 3.0.2 ROM with 3.0.4 kernel.. maybe a clean install of the 3.0.4 ROM?? or 3.0.2...

samhall said:
I ran saga before ace.. frankly saga felt better than ace. I can't put my finger on anything specific, ace just had quirks- things not behaving as I thought they should. I changed from ace to leedroid and I'm happy. The only problem I have with leedroid is the volume isn't as loud through the headphone jack as CM7 is.
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Use volume+ to get more output from headphones
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i think i have tried every rom for the inspire. i have flashed no less than 100 times back and forth, and i keep coming back to leedroid.
honestly i have not found ANY rom where there is absolutley NO problems encountered.........but leedroid has a great mix of stability, features, and attractiveness (with a theme i like) so its where i am.

oFUNGUSo said:
i think i have tried every rom for the inspire. i have flashed no less than 100 times back and forth, and i keep coming back to leedroid.
honestly i have not found ANY rom where there is absolutley NO problems encountered.........but leedroid has a great mix of stability, features, and attractiveness (with a theme i like) so its where i am.
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what theme?
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I've been using Ace, it's fast, stable, and battery life is pretty good. I just flashed LeeDroid tonight. It seems pretty fast and stable, and I'm getting around the same data speeds I was getting. Battery life I can't say yet, but I'm thinking it will be better since LeeDroid's kernel runs the CPU a bit faster than stock but undervolted.

please keep me posted on your take on battery life and bugs you might find..
I'm on leedroid 3.0.2 and would love to know how ACE is... I know I should just flash it and try it out my self, but I'm not wanting to move unless I know it's a keeper! lol

I love Ace, stock Sense without the bloat exactly what i was looking for...

[Q] Inspire Root (re-root perhaps)

Problems As of Right Now:
Rooted my phone using bubbys (worked out fine)
Tried to install ROM for Gingerbread 2.3 as seen on many youtube tutorials
Not Working
Am I putting the ROMs on my SD card wrong? Should I reroot the phone again using a different program (tried using the xda first but my computer wouldnt let me even after I turned off firewall and anti virus.) I dont know what I should do but tonight is about to be my 2nd sleepless night until i figure it out..Thanks very much for any help!!
--Nikki<3

Are you able to boot into H-boot to see if you have s-off?
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Yes I just checked and it said that the S-OFF
and well i just tried to go into titanium back up right before i read your reply and its saying that root failed and then i checked super user and its saying that i need to upgrade and when i do its telling me that theres a signature error...
these are all conflicting ideas to me. any other kind of root that i can try besides the bubbys cause i really really want to use the gingerbread rom and sense 3.0
youre the best for replying and sorry about all the missing punctuations im typing really fast and i dont care about that just need some answers.. Thanks!!!
--Nikki<3

Since you have s-off, you should be able to flash a rom. Considering you are having issues, I would try flashing the stock rom thru h-boot first. Search the dev section for attn1's Ace_Cingular_US rom. Rename the file if needed and place it on the root of the sd card. Turn of fastboot in the settings menu of your device and restart in h-boot. Make sure there are no other such zip files on the sd card. When h-boot finds the file, it should prompt you start the flashing of the rom and radio.
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You are wonderful! Thanks so much for the help...The only person in 2 days to help with any advice... ^_^
--Nikki<3

WELL.........
I did what you said and now my phone is in an infinite loop of start HTC screen and off........its upsetting really...hahah
oii I have a headache

Did you do a wipe?
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Have you read the sticky (or is it stuck?) Rooting Guide in the General thread of the Inspire forums? The link is below. Look 1/3 of the way down at General Fixes (recovering from soft brick).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1033353

Yes I did,,,,,
I dont know anymore...ugh ... i thought this would be a little simpler for me. i guess not..I'll keep trying

Don't worry overmuch as I have had issues too, although I was successful in the past on another device. From my research, if you can boot at all, you will be fine. Just takes some research and maybe some help from some Senior Devs .

can u boot into clockwork mod recovery, by holding volume down and power?
The reason i ask is im not sure if this can be done in hboot, but here is what i would like you to try. From the dev section go to leedroids 4g V3.03.0 GB thread and download the EXT4 wipe and his latest rom (((only using his, because the wipe and rom work together nicely, you can flash anything you want later))) after downloading both, transfer to the root of your sdcard. Then using CWM (if possible) flash the wipe first and then the rom without rebooting (again if possible.)

i cant find the thread youre talking about....it wont let me search for leedroid either
idk

Nikki0418 said:
i cant find the thread youre talking about....it wont let me search for leedroid either
idk
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Here you go:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1065527&highlight=Leedroid
I feel your pain...when I rooted my Inspire it did not go smooth at all, slightly smoother than you evidently...if the phone can boot at all there is likely a way to recover...
EDit: That said, I now think I have about the most rockin phone within at least a 15 mile radius. I absolutely love it...but it has taken some work, and a few moments of anxiety when things didn't quite go smoothly at first

Nikki0418 said:
WELL.........
I did what you said and now my phone is in an infinite loop of start HTC screen and off........its upsetting really...hahah
oii I have a headache
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Sounds like a soft brick. Possibly a bad flash, possibly from a bad download. Did you check the integrity of the download, md5sum? You want to do that and make sure you have no other pd98img.zip file on the sd card. Do as suggested, go to the sticky and follow the instructions for recovering from a soft brick.
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OK
Now that everyone has babied this poor sad little girl through the softbrick rooting step, I need one more piece of advice
I went to sleep last night after a victory dance: rooted phone, great Gingerbread and sense 3.0 etc etc
Put phone on charger --zzzzzz-- wake up and take it off charger and after more than 8hrs on wall charger battery is only 50%%!!! WTFF i've been up for a little while now and its at 38% with me not even touching it or doing anything on it..is there a rom or something that can extent battery life...is there a scan i can to to see if theres a different problem? I read that people have good battery life with LeeDrOiD IDK
Again thank you very much!!
--Nikki<3

alright tonight i'm gonna need you people to use your think boxes...web pages won't load even though my wifi is full bars....my att network isnt saying how the connection is (i.e. 3G, H+ etc) no indication
twitter keeps jamming up. htc sense keeps force closing....theres a lot of things i like on this rom but jeezzz way too many problems....everyone helping is awesome and i wuv you guys......hope to see some replies when i get back from work...thanks!!!
--Nikki<33

Did you flash a radio? The hack kit left me with a nasty radio. Upgrading to the latest radio made a difference. Post which radio you have, settings > about phone > software information > baseband version. Visit the Leedroid thread and see which radios are recommended. It is also possible it may have been a bad flash. In which case, you would need to wipe and flash again.
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it could be the rom, which one do you have installed now??? I noticed the best battery life with two pump chumps recook of the stock rom >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=982963 , but for best overall look and feel i like leedroids gingerbead rom, that i posted earlier (however battery life is an issue with any GB rom). Its really just up to and what you will be doing as to whats best for you. Just try a few or try them all till you find what you like. Its also worth noting that CM7 seems to have the best battery life of any, but its an entirely different look. I personally hate it, but you may not.

Nikki0418 said:
OK
Now that everyone has babied this poor sad little girl through the softbrick rooting step, I need one more piece of advice
I went to sleep last night after a victory dance: rooted phone, great Gingerbread and sense 3.0 etc etc
Put phone on charger --zzzzzz-- wake up and take it off charger and after more than 8hrs on wall charger battery is only 50%%!!! WTFF i've been up for a little while now and its at 38% with me not even touching it or doing anything on it..is there a rom or something that can extent battery life...is there a scan i can to to see if theres a different problem? I read that people have good battery life with LeeDrOiD IDK
Again thank you very much!!
--Nikki<3
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There is an Android bug that puts the phone in a permanent wake state even when the screen is off, phone idle, etc. It happens after a phone call. Rebooting fixes it. this bug is identified by the Dialer taking up inordinate battery usage in the battery stats. It would be really coincidental if that happened to you right after flashing though...just a thought.

@fernadezhjr the Baseband version I have on here is 12.39.60.19U_26.06.04.06_M
I don't know what that means so *shrugs* haven't tried to Flash a new radio. I have a rom for one but i've done a lot to my phone so idk lol.......if you know where i can get a trustworthy rom for sure for the LeeDroid root.
@bermatides(sorry if i spelled wrong i only glanced at name) I have the [ROM]LeeDrOiD HD V3.3.0 GB [KERNEL]V3.2.0 >EPIC!< 6th July | HTC GB | OTA | CRT TV
I downloaded it from here from his personal profile off his posts. I dont know how corrupt it could be...everything is working fine. My wifi is just slow even with all the bars. and its not so much that my phone isnt charging (which i thought) its the wall charger that isnt charging my phone. it charges in the car and on the computer. but won't charge in the wall.....the little lightning bolt comes on and shows charging in action but the battery percentage goes lower and lower the longer its "charging" then kaput .........

Total Disappointment

I got to say that even with all of the great development here this phone has been overly disappointing..
This is my Wife's phone I use an SGS II. I was going to keep it stock but she was complaining about it locking up occasionally and poor battery life. So i rooted and have had her try out several roms of several flavors, sense 3.0 and 3.5 gingerbread of all sorts, and different kernels and all.. It seems no matter the combo the general use of the device seem sluggish at times.
Her biggest complaint is how sometimes she needs to pull for the notification bar 3 or 4 times before it will pull down.. Whats crazy is non of these issues are present at first, usually do not show for a few days.
I at first thought it was the set up but after so many mixes of different things i checked that off, then i thought it was an app but i had her go for a few days without installing anything and it eventually still happened..
I have decided it either the device just plain sucks or its the sense garbage clogging it up..
Any good ASOP rom recommendations?
Or any recommendations at all? Maybe someone else who had had issues with this device and who has found happiness could point me in a good rom kernel combo for this POS...
Sorry had to vent.. and any help would be great..

No problems whatsoever on the ROM I'm running. Did you make sure to superwipe in between each ROM flash?

Ngo93 said:
No problems whatsoever on the ROM I'm running. Did you make sure to superwipe in between each ROM flash?
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Yes Superwipe is my friend. Honestly It could just be that this device is just not as good as her G2 which she now wants to go back to lmao.. but whatever..

PJcastaldo said:
I got to say that even with all of the great development here this phone has been overly disappointing..
This is my Wife's phone I use an SGS II. I was going to keep it stock but she was complaining about it locking up occasionally and poor battery life. So i rooted and have had her try out several roms of several flavors, sense 3.0 and 3.5 gingerbread of all sorts, and different kernels and all.. It seems no matter the combo the general use of the device seem sluggish at times.
Her biggest complaint is how sometimes she needs to pull for the notification bar 3 or 4 times before it will pull down.. Whats crazy is non of these issues are present at first, usually do not show for a few days.
I at first thought it was the set up but after so many mixes of different things i checked that off, then i thought it was an app but i had her go for a few days without installing anything and it eventually still happened..
I have decided it either the device just plain sucks or its the sense garbage clogging it up..
Any good ASOP rom recommendations?
Or any recommendations at all? Maybe someone else who had had issues with this device and who has found happiness could point me in a good rom kernel combo for this POS...
Sorry had to vent.. and any help would be great..
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No one else seams to have these problems i get no lag what so ever but if your looking for a good AOSP Gingerbread ROM have you tried Cyanogen Mod 7????? or eve MIUI as far as ICS ROM i like this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1408351

have you tried swapping/formatting your SD card?
other than that, it sounds like you've tried everything...you may just have a bung handset...your problems are not common

I was having some of the same problems. No matter what Rom/kernel combo I had there were bugs. I went back to stock and voila... Smooth as butter. I guess the updates tmo released really fixed all of the problems I had when I first purchased the sensation. I suggest you try it out.
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I have been using sensation for 4+ months now. Yes the stock ROM is buggy but definitely not as bad as you are experiencing. I rooted and install custom ROM after one week stock ROM usage. May be you can try by 1) factory reset if not fixed then 2) format or new memory card.
All Gingerbread based ROM's are pretty good in terms of feature, performance and stability. For starters you can try insertcoin or android revolution HD. I would not recommend ICS based ROM since they are still work in progress kind of mode. Though most of the things will work with ICS ROM, looking at your frustrating experience I would recommend only GB based ROMs.
All The Best!

Faulty handset.
Get it replaced/fixed.

Never have I experienced any of these issues with my Sensation.
I use ARHD 3.6.x since day 1 and it's still as smooth as butter.
I use Daemon controller to take the CPU down to 1GHz.
I have many many apps installed and have nearly filled the internal memory with a few apps on the SD too.
I have removed a few system apps using root. What accounts are you using on the device? I have heard that a sense account can be a bit of a drain on battery and resources.
Phil

sromer said:
Faulty handset.
Get it replaced/fixed.
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I'd agree.
All of symptoms "pull for the notification bar 3 or 4 times before it will pull down.. Whats crazy is non of these issues are present at first, usually do not show for a few days. " are VERY similar to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1239238
There was another link 150+ pages relating to it but can't that one. Anyway, get it replaced.

I think because her nails are long

I had a lot of sluggishness with stock but now I'm using MIUI and it's really smooth and is better on batt life w/o all that stock bloat nonsense. I don't know why I waited so long to root. Every now and then I have issues pulling the status bar but I figure it's just my finger placement or another app is running a task and hogging the CPU for a sec.
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AngrySalad said:
I had a lot of sluggishness with stock but now I'm using MIUI and it's really smooth and is better on batt life w/o all that stock bloat nonsense. I don't know why I waited so long to root. Every now and then I have issues pulling the status bar but I figure it's just my finger placement or another app is running a task and hogging the CPU for a sec.
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Honestly though with a dual core device you should be able to pull the notification bar down at will.. at least my SGS II has never done this..
bomczz said:
I think because her nails are long
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LMAO I actually thought this at first.. but it did it to be too.
animaleyes76 said:
I'd agree.
All of symptoms "pull for the notification bar 3 or 4 times before it will pull down.. Whats crazy is non of these issues are present at first, usually do not show for a few days. " are VERY similar to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1239238
There was another link 150+ pages relating to it but can't that one. Anyway, get it replaced.
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This maybe a possibility that she has a faulty touchscreen making it seem to be laggy when infact its not..
Thank you guys for so many responses im going to have her try an ASOP rom like CM7 and see if it helps if not maybe ill get it replaced..

My sensation is sluggish on the stock rom. It operates very smooth on cm7 alpha #10 and the latest miui which i am sporting at the moment. Do u use titanium backup at all in her phone. Ive read some shiz bout TB.
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I got the same problem. Takes couple tries to unlock the phone, some on-screen keyboard keys are not responding, notification bar not coming down. It was very annoying and frustrating. But all the problems are gone once I installed CM7/MIUI.

DDeveryday said:
I got the same problem. Takes couple tries to unlock the phone, some on-screen keyboard keys are not responding, notification bar not coming down. It was very annoying and frustrating. But all the problems are gone once I installed CM7/MIUI.
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Well shes not home from work yet and im going to class tonight, but I will be putting her on CM7 especially after reading your comment.

I think your phone (hardware) is defected. Get a replacement. I run many of the custom ROM for the past few months and none of them have the problem you described. Good luck.

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I think your phone (hardware) is defected. Get a replacement. I run many of the custom ROM for the past few months and none of them have the problem you described. Good luck.
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I really think that you guys are just used to a less than smooth experience. and i don't mean this in a bad way. I have not only been exposed to my wife's Sensation but the weird dude upstairs Sensation >though its stock< is slow and choppy and has horrible battery life as well.. just saying its bad when when you take her G2 running a sense 3.0 rom and put it next to the Sensation running a similar rom and the older device is running it better..
OK, So after trying out the CM7 build and now Hypersensation I am going to say even without waiting <but the next few days will tell> sense is what really hinders this phones performance. Totally 1000% more responsive than ANY Sense rom i have had on this device.. still not up to par where i feel it should be but much nicer..

Ok if shes still in cm7 just leave it dont overclock it. Give it a few charges to settle. Everything should work smooth except the video camera. Glad i could help u.
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I really think that you guys are just used to a less than smooth experience. and i don't mean this in a bad way. I have not only been exposed to my wife's Sensation but the weird dude upstairs Sensation >though its stock< is slow and choppy and has horrible battery life as well.. just saying its bad when when you take her G2 running a sense 3.0 rom and put it next to the Sensation running a similar rom and the older device is running it better..
OK, So after trying out the CM7 build and now Hypersensation I am going to say even without waiting <but the next few days will tell> sense is what really hinders this phones performance. Totally 1000% more responsive than ANY Sense rom i have had on this device.. still not up to par where i feel it should be but much nicer..
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If she doesnt like cm7 give the latest miui a go. Everything works great. Only bug ive noticed is the wifi likes to turn on by itself once in awhile so keep an eye on it if u try miui. Ive came over from a nexus s and comparing both phones id say the sensation is a hair better plus the build quality is much much better.
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Any reliable JB roms?

Are there any JB roms that, coupled with a custom kernal, are reliable enough for a serious daily driver? Every one I've tried is plagued with force stops, lockups, boot loops or are just generally unreliable. Anyone?

Every jb Rom is very reliable ..if you're getting bootloops and force closes and all that you're doing something wrong ...full wipe system and data each time you flash a new Rom ...but it's on your part if these roms don't seem reliable

Wrong. Factory wipes every time. Doing nothing different than with any other ICS rom.
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What Hboot are you running?
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What Hboot are you running?
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1.09

I'm looking for a rom that will be "business" reliable. I don't game or change roms as a hobby. I need something that can handle 40-50 phone calls, 15-20 voice mails, 50-75 emails and several texts a day without rebooting, locking up or force closings. Also, its important that Maps and Navigation work reliably and that internet works smoothly. I'm not the only one having problems with JB roms as there are numerous threads with problems others are experiencing. If I'm "doing it wrong" then how about some suggestions as to what to try. beankid, thank you for at least asking a pertinent question, without the usual smarmy [email protected]@ed comment.

gpo1956 said:
I'm looking for a rom that will be "business" reliable. I don't game or change roms as a hobby. I need something that can handle 40-50 phone calls, 15-20 voice mails, 50-75 emails and several texts a day without rebooting, locking up or force closings. Also, its important that Maps and Navigation work reliably and that internet works smoothly. I'm not the only one having problems with JB roms as there are numerous threads with problems others are experiencing. If I'm "doing it wrong" then how about some suggestions as to what to try. beankid, thank you for at least asking a pertinent question, without the usual smarmy [email protected]@ed comment.
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How about going into more detail? "bootloop" doesn't tell me much. And saying "Wrong. Doesn't work" isn't going to get you a lot of help either.
Wipe system
Factory Reset (you will have to reinstall apps if you do this)
Wipe Cache
Wipe Dalvik Cache
Flash the ROM
reboot

I haven't gotten a single ROM.out of the scope of sense that has the video function correctly. When I replay videos recorded, there is a high pitched ring. Its on every single aosp ROM.
If that doesn't need to work correctly, you should be good to go.
If you are on new hboot just flash kernel first and wipe caches, and system. Then flash ROM and gapps.
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gpo1956 said:
I'm looking for a rom that will be "business" reliable. I don't game or change roms as a hobby. I need something that can handle 40-50 phone calls, 15-20 voice mails, 50-75 emails and several texts a day without rebooting, locking up or force closings. Also, its important that Maps and Navigation work reliably and that internet works smoothly. I'm not the only one having problems with JB roms as there are numerous threads with problems others are experiencing. If I'm "doing it wrong" then how about some suggestions as to what to try. beankid, thank you for at least asking a pertinent question, without the usual smarmy [email protected]@ed comment.
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If that's really what you need, stick with an ICS rom or go stock. The JB roms are all ported over; there are no Sense JB roms for the One X yet.

absolutelygrim said:
How about going into more detail? "bootloop" doesn't tell me much. And saying "Wrong. Doesn't work" isn't going to get you a lot of help either.
Wipe system
Factory Reset (you will have to reinstall apps if you do this)
Wipe Cache
Wipe Dalvik Cache
Flash the ROM
reboot
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I do all factory resets every time I flash a rom, as I stated above. Wiping cache and dalvik goes without saying. Also, how much more detail would you like? Bootloops, force closes and lockups are pretty self explanatory. I had hoped for more than "but it's on your part if these roms don't seem reliable" or "Wrong. Doing it wrong." Sorry, but I simply cannot validate your self worth by giving you a Thanks for that one.

Stick to stock buddy if your going to have to rely greatly on these things than basically your answering your own question go back to a sense Rom or stock ... Peace

gpo1956 said:
I do all factory resets every time I flash a rom, as I stated above. Wiping cache and dalvik goes without saying. Also, how much more detail would you like? Bootloops, force closes and lockups are pretty self explanatory. I had hoped for more than "but it's on your part if these roms don't seem reliable" or "Wrong. Doing it wrong." Sorry, but I simply cannot validate your self worth by giving you a Thanks for that one.
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adb logcat (which for some reason tells you exactly why you bootloop and force close.. Pretty weird right?)
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I've NO problems with any of the jellybean ROMs
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I agree. I've tried a few and they've been rock solid for me. You're doing something wrong. Goo back to stock.
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gpo1956 said:
Are there any JB roms that, coupled with a custom kernal, are reliable enough for a serious daily driver? Every one I've tried is plagued with force stops, lockups, boot loops or are just generally unreliable. Anyone?
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Are you titanium restoring your apps and data from a sence rom ? If you are that will give you problems, like your saying.
Install all apps fresh and just restore data.

Wow. So all these varied opinions circle back to the simple answer: No, they are not! That's what I needed to know. Thanks.:good:

CM10 would be your best bet, as it's mostly the base for all the others to add further on top of it, so it would stand to reason that CM would be the most stable, and I can confirm that. I'm running CM10 and it's been completely stable for me. No force closes, definitely no bootloops or random reboots. The trouble at the moment on the AOSP JB side is kernels. If you stick with the stock CM10 kernel, you're pretty good. rohan's kernel is the only other kernel to add to that, and it's got some major bugs right now that DO cause bootloops and random reboots.
That said, I think you answer your own question pretty well. If you want a phone that's 100% stable and the best all around ROM for everything, it would be fairly obvious that you'd want to stick to a ROM based off a stock Sense ROM. As with anything, using something that's in development or testing isn't going to be as stable for someone has mission critical needs. The biggest gap between Sense based ICS ROMs and AOSP JB ROMs right now is the battery life. With Sense ROMs I can EASILY get 24 hours at a minimum pretty much, granted that's with less calls than you say you're making. JB is still a little lacking, there I get a full day on average, but a lot of use could lower that. If you use your phone as much as you say, you'd probably want to stick with ICS roms with better battery life.
The biggest thing is to stay away from kernels with overclocking, undervolting, other governors, etc. While this can provide a nice boost and extra features, and can be fairly stable depending on the kernel, all of those provide big wildcards for system stability, especially OC/UV which entirely depends on how well your specific phone accepts being pushed.
So, are JB ROMs stable? I'd absolutely say yes without hesitation. Are they the right ROMs for you? Probably not.

gpo1956 said:
Wow. So all these varied opinions circle back to the simple answer: No, they are not! That's what I needed to know. Thanks.:good:
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All the opinions circle back to the simple answer that the problem lies with you. Obviously since you refuse to do anything other than complain you should just relock your bootloader and RUU to stock if you want something reliable.
You also refuse to even post a logcat, which proves to me you don't care enough.
And as I said earlier.. It's a magical little tool invented by fairies that tells you exactly what the problem is.
Let me explain this to you.
Are they reliable? Yes.
Can we make the decision for you? NO.
You can be the only person in the world having these problems, doesn't change the fact that the ROMs are amazing and stable.
So instead of coming in here and not taking any advice, take your own advice.. Do what you want to do.

CM10 installed fine without any problems for me.

I run my business from the field and this phone does it all. On average I do about 25 calls and 30or so emails daily. CM10 serves me just fine.
Learn to rom.

[Q] Does Wiping and Flashing Have Negative Effects on Phone?

Hello XDA,
This is just a general question, but I do a lot of flashing and installing new ROMs. I was wondering if there are any negative effects on device performance or general health due to flashing and wiping? Does it slow the phone down or mess up internal storage if you do so?
Cheers,
ccrama

ccrama said:
Hello XDA,
This is just a general question, but I do a lot of flashing and installing new ROMs. I was wondering if there are any negative effects on device performance or general health due to flashing and wiping? Does it slow the phone down or mess up internal storage if you do so?
Cheers,
ccrama
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Nope.. in fact I would say if anything it speeds it up. None of us would know because we don't keep a rom on for like a year to see if it becomes corrupt and slow. lol
No one keeps a phone more than 2 years anymore and by then the battery is shot, so abuse the heck out of it.

tivofool said:
Nope.. in fact I would say if anything it speeds it up. None of us would know because we don't keep a rom on for like a year to see if it becomes corrupt and slow. lol
No one keeps a phone more than 2 years anymore and by then the battery is shot, so abuse the heck out of it.
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I couldn't agree with your second statement my friend.. in fact, i'm still using my wildfire for more than 3 years now, and it still doesn't fail on me.. i just use it as a backup phone but it's still fast with common tasks i use it with..
To answer the OP, no, wiping and/or flashing custom roms/kernels will not have an impact on your phone's performance over time. Just be sure to wipe all that has to be wiped before jumping from rom to rom and/or kernel to kernel. And also, be sure to read all the instructions and description before you flash any mod, make sure and double check if it is really compatible with the rom you are on. :thumbup:
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1. My friend is using a 3 year old HTC desire on the original battery that's still working good.
2. He is also on the 3 year old stock 2.2 ROM which is just starting to slow down after almost 3 years without any factory wipe.
3. I think that there may be more stress on some of the hardware if you do lots of flashing. I wouldn't want to flash a new ROM every day or even every week. Once a month or two is probably OK though. I could be wrong but can anyone really prove either way?
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Keep in mind Nand flash does not have eternal life.
But thats with everything that get used alot.
I flash alot, never had problems, on multiple devices.
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Alright, thanks guys! I will flash away then