Coming from an iPhone 4s I could really use the tethering but fear AT&T will yank it from me. I'm not exactly a light user and use around 2.5-3GB of data a month. Now that I have a rooted SkyRocket I'd like to use it as a portable hospot and tether to my iPad. My iPad plugs right into my car stereo, whereas the SR does not. I want to stream pandora via my iPad running off my SR's hotspot. Its about a 20 minute ride to my school and I use about 10-15MB doing this.
So what I want to know is, will AT&T catch on? I don't plan on going crazy with the tethering because I know that's how your account can get flagged. I'd like to ge the opinions of others who are currently violating AT&T's Terms of Service lol.
My understanding is, they can detect it no matter what, and first they send a message, and then they kick you off it adding the 5GB ($50) plan.
I have been warned once and threatened once. They can and do know if you are tethering through packet inspection. There is no way around it. It's best to not do it because they will find out regardless and you WILL lose your unlimited plan. They will not give it back once its gone either.
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I have been warned once and threatened once. They can and do know if you are tethering through packet inspection. There is no way around it. It's best to not do it because they will find out regardless and you WILL lose your unlimited plan. They will not give it back once its gone either.
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That's what I figured. Then again, why do all these rom developers add the capability?
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That's what I figured. Then again, why do all these rom developers add the capability?
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Because some people don't care if they get warned.... You can always change a tiered plan back to normal, but not the unlimited plan.
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Coming from an iPhone 4s I could really use the tethering but fear AT&T will yank it from me. I'm not exactly a light user and use around 2.5-3GB of data a month. Now that I have a rooted SkyRocket I'd like to use it as a portable hospot and tether to my iPad. My iPad plugs right into my car stereo, whereas the SR does not. I want to stream pandora via my iPad running off my SR's hotspot. Its about a 20 minute ride to my school and I use about 10-15MB doing this.
So what I want to know is, will AT&T catch on? I don't plan on going crazy with the tethering because I know that's how your account can get flagged. I'd like to ge the opinions of others who are currently violating AT&T's Terms of Service lol.
My understanding is, they can detect it no matter what, and first they send a message, and then they kick you off it adding the 5GB ($50) plan.
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It's been about six months since I used tethering without official ATT plan.
I only used occasionally every week or so for about two years. They never found me nor charged me.
Interesting leak in the crippled tethering manager on GB captivate.
After letting it force close due to a bug, you can relaunch it and tether freely.
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I'd just recremend download the music you want to listen to onto your ipad instead of streaming it... nothing wrong with that?
I tether every now and then and never been caught/any warnings.. at mostly only tether when my friends need wifi or for my kindle fire which is rarely..
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I'd just recremend download the music you want to listen to onto your ipad instead of streaming it... nothing wrong with that?
I tether every now and then and never been caught/any warnings.. at mostly only tether when my friends need wifi or for my kindle fire which is rarely..
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I meant stream Pandora.
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I meant stream Pandora.
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I know, just download music on your ipad instead of streaming & the possibility of your unlimited data plan going
Its pretty ridiculous that we can't tether a small amount, yet someone who pays $20 more can tether 5GB.
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Its pretty ridiculous that we can't tether a small amount, yet someone who pays $20 more can tether 5GB.
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Its not that there concerned about us that would use little but for those who would try to run there entire home network on it. The real abusers are what screw it up for the rest of us. I have seen people with Data usage over 50gbs and those are the people who ruin it for everyone else.
I watch Netflix 5 days a week for about an hour or two. Stream Pandora 4-5 hours a day and I have hardly ever used over 5gbs.. the most was 7gbs.
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Its not that there concerned about us that would use little but for those who would try to run there entire home network on it. The real abusers are what screw it up for the rest of us. I have seen people with Data usage over 50gbs and those are the people who ruin it for everyone else.
I watch Netflix 5 days a week for about an hour or two. Stream Pandora 4-5 hours a day and I have hardly ever used over 5gbs.. the most was 7gbs.
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Panorama quality blows. I use Spotify on LOW bandwidth streaming, better than panora's high quality, and I hit 2gbs a month just from that. Netflix hits 200-300megs each movie.. So I'm not sure how you are getting these stats.
I'm at 4.8 gigs right now and half of that is Spotify.
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well I tether netflix from my phone to my tab every day taking the train back in forth to work. I recieved a text once from them saying I'm using to much data and they will so my bandwith down if i continue. I ignored it then a month later i was threatened again that they would automaticly upgrade me to the tethering pro plan if i did not upgrade. so now I was pissed I kept the texts and call att corprate office kept asking for the highest manager i could talk to and after talking to him and explaining that when you enter a agreament for unlimited data and i pay every month i should not be threatened for using the data i was paying for. After that call I have never been bothered again and its been over 6 months.
Who/ where did you call?
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I tether with mine on the unlimited plan. I don't use it TOO much, maybe a gig a month, but when I do it's an Iconia A500 Android tablet to do remote desktop and some Netflix now and again. Never been warned or threatened and I've been doing it since my 3GS days a few years back. I'm sure it won't last forever, but I'll enjoy it while it lasts
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hey all. im about to purchase a captivate and it will be my first smart phone. i am curious if you all recommend getting the big or small data plan. i have a lot of access to wifi and on my current phone which has the unlimited data plan (not a smart phone tho) i have never gone over 200 MB and one of my family members who has an iphone has only gone over 3 times in the last 12 months. anyways, i was curious what you all had to say about it. thanks!
I have the 2GB plan since I use a radio app everyday for 3-4 hours. That rashes a lot of data and also have facebook, tapatalk, and both emails updating all day long. I went over the 200MB once but that was before I started using radio and pandora.
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hey all. im about to purchase a captivate and it will be my first smart phone. i am curious if you all recommend getting the big or small data plan. i have a lot of access to wifi and on my current phone which has the unlimited data plan (not a smart phone tho) i have never gone over 200 MB and one of my family members who has an iphone has only gone over 3 times in the last 12 months. anyways, i was curious what you all had to say about it. thanks!
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if you want to keep your unlimited plan, you can do so.
If you are careful about your use when you aren't on wifi the 200meg plan should work just fine.
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if you want to keep your unlimited plan, you can do so.
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This. But make sure you call them every 2 weeks for a couple of months and check that the "grandfathered unlimited data plan" is still active.
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hey all. im about to purchase a captivate and it will be my first smart phone. i am curious if you all recommend getting the big or small data plan. i have a lot of access to wifi and on my current phone which has the unlimited data plan (not a smart phone tho) i have never gone over 200 MB and one of my family members who has an iphone has only gone over 3 times in the last 12 months. anyways, i was curious what you all had to say about it. thanks!
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Apparently some people have reported problems keeping an unlimited plan if it was of the "MediaMax" variety. I had a smartphone unlimited plan and she didn't even bother asking me if I wanted to keep it; she just said, "Oh, you'll be wanting to keep this" and left it in place.
the stock phone does not come with a way to turn off data.
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I have the 2GB plan since I use a radio app everyday for 3-4 hours. That rashes a lot of data and also have facebook, tapatalk, and both emails updating all day long. I went over the 200MB once but that was before I started using radio and pandora.
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Does the 2GB plan really let you use that much streaming? I've been thinking of switching from the 200MB plan, but I'm not sure how much more I'd really get out of it.
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I have the 200mb plan and if I had a choice due to money constraints right now, I wouldn't have any. Since I do all my app downloading and video watching on wifi, I have only gone over once. I use it on stuff that doesn't user much data such as xda app, viewing basic web, and email. Of course I always use #data* to check my usage.
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hey all. im about to purchase a captivate and it will be my first smart phone. i am curious if you all recommend getting the big or small data plan. i have a lot of access to wifi and on my current phone which has the unlimited data plan (not a smart phone tho) i have never gone over 200 MB and one of my family members who has an iphone has only gone over 3 times in the last 12 months. anyways, i was curious what you all had to say about it. thanks!
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just keep the unlimited data plan. i have $15/month data unlimited for "basic phones" because i always buy unlocked phones. works with every phone i've had, captivate included.
keep the plan. have you ever used the tether function? I've hit 5gbs in a month using tethering when i was housesitting for a friend of mine =X
I used 17XX MB last billing cycle.
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Does the 2GB plan really let you use that much streaming? I've been thinking of switching from the 200MB plan, but I'm not sure how much more I'd really get out of it.
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just keep the unlimited data plan. i have $15/month data unlimited for "basic phones" because i always buy unlocked phones. works with every phone i've had, captivate included.
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I also had the $10/mo unlimited on the family plan but no matter how much I jumped up and down they wouldn't let me keep it..said I had to go to one of the 2 plans.
I have wifi at work and at home and so I usually use around 150MB of 200MB. I also have a sprint HTC Mogul active on boost mobile paygo which allows unlimited 3g data for 3.33 a month which I use for all of my mobile hot spot/streaming radio needs. It basically has a permanent home in my car which I use instead of the local radio stations.
I know a lot of you guys use only around 200 megs, but I guess I'm lucky I'm on the older data plans because I use around 5 gigs a month of data. I don't stream music everyday or anything but I use my phone's 3G a lot like a normal computer so I use a lot of data when downloading whatever I'm downloading.
I tether my phone a lot and typically use upwards of 5GB per month. My husband on the other hand has the same phone and almost never even reaches 200MB thanks to the wireless at his work.
i've never come close to 200mb, and i never worry about data usage. i think if you need more you already know it.
Both with a nexus one and a captivate on seperate plans, att "upgraded" me from a basic phone with unlimited, to a smart phone plan with 2gb.
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I'm on wifi a lot, and I still manage to use a GB a month.
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I've been hitting about 10gbs a month for the last 3 months (pandora, streaming tv, tethering for BlackOps) and now ATT recently decided to change my mediamax account to 2gb datapro without my consent. They expect me to pay the overage charges even though i was never informed of the change and would never agree to it. Im so outraged right now that if they dont give me back my "grandfather data plan" which i've had consistently for 5+ years. Im going to switch to Verizon, my buddy tells me they have no data cap plus they got better service. We'll see if ATT honors a loyal customer or loses one....
From what I can gather there are 2 ways to tether (without buying tethering option), changing the APN or by rooting and running appropriate programs. I have a grandfathered unlimited plan so tethering would be great, but I'm not gonna pay extra for a tether specific plan. AT&T terms of service says that doing so will result in charge/termination...but how do they check? Changing the APN can be read (at least on an iphone, from what I read), not sure about rooting. Can anyone explain how data transfered during tethering by changing the APN will appear to the network vs a rooted tethering system. Also what is with this 5GB soft cap, I've read and believe BS.
Uh, I used my captivate w the USB tethering app from the marketplace just fine. Never got billed additionally.
The only way for them to "know" would be to check the browser agent information on the sites you visit. As long as you don't go nuts and stream netflix for days on end or host torrents you'll be fine.
I've tethered with an N1, Aria, now and Inspire all running stock unbranded froyo or CM, I've never had a tethering charge on my bill. I've gone so far as 10+ gb
while i haven't tried this on the inspire, before on my jailbroken iPhone, i ran a tethering app, using about 15gb a month for a few months in a row (was sitting in florida with no internet connection whats so ever to use but the phone) i never had a problem.
ive been using tethering for years on my incite,pure,tilt2,hd2 and now my inspire and never been charged extra for it.im glad they cant tell or i would owe them lots of money
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I've tethered on my my old tilt 2 every day, with no issues up to 5GB. I sideloaded PDAnet on my inspire already, and plan to use it as well.
Scott
Tethering Data Usage
The Least amount I have ever had in a Month between the Inspire,Iphone 4,Iphone 3GS,Captivate,ARIA,with "MyWi",Rooting,Jailbreaking,Whatever method (I am a phone Junkie)using my Grandfathered Data Plan is 63Gigs in a Month and usually between 150 to 180 Gigs and never a Problem,They actually game me the 3rd Degree when I wanted to keep my Unlimited plan with the 4G Inspire and I told them I stream Movies,ie. Netflix,and I run a router Flashed with "DD-WRT" using the HotSpot and I have 3 teenage Boys that are Gaming,ect Constantly. My Argument is that is what "Unlimited " Means,I said to AT&T I have 5 Smartphones and have had for 6 years,I will take my Business Elsewhere,they called me back the next Day and said I could Keep the Unlimited because of my longtime status,I was one of the very first to win the Argument,I got home with my Inspire and the next day got a Data Usage Warning that I was at my 2 gig Max after the Guy in the Store said I could keep my Data Plan,Corporate said NO Way, I told them I was bringing the phone back and going elsewhere with my Business,Within a Day I had my Plan back in tact,Vegas
Wow....some people need to spring for broadband it seems.
63 gigs a month? WTF?????
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People like him are why the rest of us lost the ability to choose unlimited
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People like him are why the rest of us lost the ability to choose unlimited
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Your right in that one.
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I'd love to watch him and his boys at the "all you can eat buffet"
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I'd love to watch him and his boys at the "all you can eat buffet"
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I do believe the owner of said buffet would be crying...
Iphone4 and APN detection vs website red flag, pdanet?
Question: I have an iPhone 4 mod with 4.3.1
Was on a lot recently in last month - 5-10 g possible downloads- got the death message from AT&T . Will charge if I don't reform ways. ( feel like some kid) what bs! Have unlimited data plan. I
I use an HP mini laptop with win 7 starter OPS, I am tethering (wireless),
Guy who jb my phone - said that detection happens by - when tethered- when downloading either by choice or by auto update - programs like flash player and adobe PDF , Microsoft windows , AT&T sees download traffic and flags as obvious tether for laptop thus their 'unauthorized'tethering traffic going on.
Is this the case- not APN ISSUE?- site location issue?
I oftentimes use remote tethering to downloading and updating data files on programs that are native to both desktop and iPhone to exchange data. I need tethering - don't need limit to band width nor 45$month charge.
If monitoring locations what steps needed other than obvious -not downloading flash updates nor adobe reader updates while online? Problem is I have quit a few programs- can't seem to completely be free of auto updates- adobe is not allowing pure manual update preference setting-to set on auto update feature.
Also does pdanet work as stated??
PDA net doesn't shield site location just APN's?! Correct? What is ideAl settings to
Max out protection . Thank-you
Guess not one of you using 60 gigs a month knows that you can get DSL, UVerse HSI, Cable HSI, etc for like $20 bucks a month for a year.
I know. It really tickles me when I hear people complain about not being able to tether or being caught for tethering. And ATT is the bad guy here?? You have never been allowed to tether on ATT without a tethering plan. FACT. Unlimited data is not unlimited. FACT. Even on the prior unlimited plan there has always been a fair useage policy of 5GB. Anything over 5GB is considered excessive. For the most part it has been overlooked by ATT.
The only BS here is those that abuse the system and come here to cry about it.
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I know. It really tickles me when I hear people complain about not being able to tether or being caught for tethering. And ATT is the bad guy here?? You have never been allowed to tether on ATT without a tethering plan. FACT. Unlimited data is not unlimited. FACT. Even on the prior unlimited plan there has always been a fair useage policy of 5GB. Anything over 5GB is considered excessive. For the most part it has been overlooked by ATT.
The only BS here is those that abuse the system and come here to cry about it.
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I too am tired about people complaining about caps and tethering plans. Att networks are not ready for this kind of traffic yet. I'm sure they want to be able to offer it to people as much as they want it. People don't understand that if they just let you do whatever you wanted to now, everyone's experience would be terrible. Let them build up their networks and maybe someday it will change, but until then, just accept the fact that you still need home internet and tv service. Besides, I think its cool that att is letting people even keep unlimited data plans.
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The only times I've tethered is when I'm on the road and there is no wifi for my laptop. Even then it was just for web browsing and for no longer than 30 minutes at a time.
Was curious to give it a shot. Wanted to know if anyone has been busted and charged or any that has zero problems with using these features
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I've not had a problem using them and At&T has never questioned me either.
My kids watch so much YouTube on my phone that my data usage is pretty high each month...(I still have an unlimited plan)... so it's not unusual for me to go over 5 gigs or better.
But someone that jumps from not even a gig to over 5 all of a sudden might raise a few eyebrows.
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I tether to play xbox live and use about 300 mb everyday and havent recieved any notice from att
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What do you use? The built in app?
i use the built in app and it works flawlessly and gives better options than the wireless tether app (ie encryption-wise and tracking connected devices)
I use the built in app
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Built in app? Which app is that? I am rooted using the unity ROM,and I'm no noob,yet I am curious to which built in app yall mean?! When I plug in my phone to usb I'm guessing I could select "internet pass thru" and yes after almost 5 years I'm still puzzled. I have always used wireless hotspot or pdanet (back in the orginal tilt haha).
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The built-in app is called Wi-Fi Hotspot.
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erraz said:
I tether to play xbox live and use about 300 mb everyday and havent recieved any notice from att
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really..how is that when you play online? is it laggy?
If you get 3 bars you will hardly lag and if you have 4 bars you will have no lag
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If you don't have the unlimited data plan, I wouldn't recommend using it. I used it and SIGNIFICANTLY went over my data plan cap and was billed overage charges.
I got busted with AT&T using an iPhone... convinced them I had no idea what tethering was or jailbreaking, etc so they let me keep my unlimited plan. Even let me switch it when I got an Inspire after telling me I needed a "4G data plan", even though they don't have 4G... morons. Anyways, I think I'll try it on here. If you haven't gotten busted playing Live, I should be ok.
As long as you don't go crazy you're fine.
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As long as u r within reasonable limits, it should all be fine. I do, once in a while, to connect to my office laptop to check mails n stuff, and NOT to download huge files nor stream media.
I say keep it under ten gigs and you will be fine
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I say keep it under ten gigs and you will be fine
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Don't count on 10 gigs as a soft limit. Companies are working towards eliminating unlimited plans, and eliminating the one in a <many many> stray customers who hog bandwidth hardly make any difference.
in my town AT&T sucks, coverage is completely spotty, we just got 3G about 2 weeks ago and the coverage is unbearable, in my house i get no service at all but when i go in the middle of town it will jump between 5 bars with 3G to 1-2 bars with edge constantly but when ever i go to a city with good 3G im tethering to my mac constantly and my data never goes over 1.5 GB even though i have the unlimited plan
I used WiFi Hotspot once when my home landline internet was on the fritz for a few hours. It was a nice backup.
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Don't count on 10 gigs as a soft limit. Companies are working towards eliminating unlimited plans, and eliminating the one in a <many many> stray customers who hog bandwidth hardly make any difference.
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There is no limit that's why its called unlimited data and I use around 6 gigs a month but I said to keep it under 10 just to be safe
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There is no limit that's why its called unlimited data and I use around 6 gigs a month but I said to keep it under 10 just to be safe
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I get ur point. But u know I've seen many posts here in some threads where I saw people bragging that they used way excess of 10GB and even as a replacement to home internet service. I was only indicating that as long as one doesn't abuse the network, he/she should be good. Sorry if what I said sounded differently than what I had in mind.
Has anyone actually been caught by the tethering police? I mean have they sent you a notice or anything?
Also, do you think I would be caught? I have used between 11 to 20 gigs a month for 6 months straight with my previous phone(Tilt2) and now I that I have the Infuse, would they even know If I was tethering or not since I would be using the same amount of data as I previously have?
Any input would be appreciated
Without trying to sound like a jerk, you do realize it's people like you that are the reason they have to police it in the first place?
20 gigs isn't off the charts outrageous, cause there are guys that say they've used up to 50 gigs in a month. Every time my bill goes up, I say a thank you to each one of you.
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Without trying to sound like a jerk, you do realize it's people like you that are the reason they have to police it in the first place?
20 gigs isn't off the charts outrageous, cause there are guys that say they've used up to 50 gigs in a month. Every time my bill goes up, I say a thank you to each one of you.
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Lol
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antuus said:
Without trying to sound like a jerk, you do realize it's people like you that are the reason they have to police it in the first place?
20 gigs isn't off the charts outrageous, cause there are guys that say they've used up to 50 gigs in a month. Every time my bill goes up, I say a thank you to each one of you.
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That doesn't really answer my question... but hey, thanks!!
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Without trying to sound like a jerk, you do realize it's people like you that are the reason they have to police it in the first place?
20 gigs isn't off the charts outrageous, cause there are guys that say they've used up to 50 gigs in a month. Every time my bill goes up, I say a thank you to each one of you.
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Thanks for the tiered data.
Hope you do get caught.
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Without trying to sound like a jerk, you do realize it's people like you that are the reason they have to police it in the first place?
20 gigs isn't off the charts outrageous, cause there are guys that say they've used up to 50 gigs in a month. Every time my bill goes up, I say a thank you to each one of you.
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well if he stops know, theyll suspect something!
tbh, i pay for unlimited data. ive tethered a few times but not more than checking that i can or to run speed tests. even though i dont really tether, i still use alot of data. thats why i have the unlimited data plan. att knows this. ive been paying them for years to know this.
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well if he stops know, theyll suspect something!
tbh, i pay for unlimited data. ive tethered a few times but not more than checking that i can or to run speed tests. even though i dont really tether, i still use alot of data. thats why i have the unlimited data plan. att knows this. ive been paying them for years to know this.
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I'm not going to get into the "well unlimited is unlimited and why does it matter how I use my unlimited." That's an argument that I feel both sides has a good argument for, so why waste the time.
I have no issues if you download gigs of porn to your phone, month after month. My issue is with the people that tether to excess just because they can. I can't tell you how thankful I am that ATT did lose a good amount of customers to VZW when the iP4 hit their shelves. Now those fanboys are bogging down the VZW network and not ours. Now I can only hope that more of these guys look for greener pastures so my bill stops inflating.
att prepared for the iphone originally with its separate apn and all that. it helped but you saw more iphones with down service than other phone users. really set up a bad name for att. has anybody even bought the iphone on verizon? i remember the launch day being a flop, havent really kept up with apple news since then.
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I'm not going to get into the "well unlimited is unlimited and why does it matter how I use my unlimited." That's an argument that I feel both sides has a good argument for, so why waste the time.
I have no issues if you download gigs of porn to your phone, month after month. My issue is with the people that tether to excess just because they can. I can't tell you how thankful I am that ATT did lose a good amount of customers to VZW when the iP4 hit their shelves. Now those fanboys are bogging down the VZW network and not ours. Now I can only hope that more of these guys look for greener pastures so my bill stops inflating.
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I do not tether on excess just because I can. I do it because I have no other means to connect to the internet and It wouldn't be the same on my phone's browser. Yes it has a flash player plugin, but that doesn't mean I can do everything I can do in a computer environment. If I had access to internet by any other means, then I wouldn't tether from my phone. There was no need for you or anyone to be harsh to me without hearing my side of the story thank you very much.
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Thanks for the tiered data.
Hope you do get caught.
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Agree. If I tether a lot in a month, MAYBE I'll cross 2 gigs. I make a point of keeping my tethering light.
However with the new phone I suspect I'll come closer to that 2gig limit a lot more often. (Fortunately I don't have it, since I'm unlimited.)
But 11-20 gigs/month without paying for tethering is just plain irresponsible. With abuse like that I'm surprised you haven't gotten busted and I wouldn't feel sorry for you if you did.
I had a grandfather plan - $20/mo unlimited data.
I've changed 5 or 6 smartphones since I had it, now on Infuse 4G, I'm getting the sucky-ass AT&T 4G speeds, tether to laptop when needed - no tethering plan.
I don't use that much though, about 2GB/month max.
I asked AT&T rep directly about this - she said they'll never change the plan unless I specifically allow it. She said they can't switch me.
well, there is that tethermanager.apk on stock that seems to report back to AT&T if you're tethering.
then if they feel like it they will text you and say "don't keep doing it or we'll swap you to the tethering plan"
you can freeze that with titanium backup (well you need to be rooted too) and that reactivates the stock tethering stuff built into the phone (both mobile ap and usb tethering)
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well, there is that tethermanager.apk on stock that seems to report back to AT&T if you're tethering.
then if they feel like it they will text you and say "don't keep doing it or we'll swap you to the tethering plan"
you can freeze that with titanium backup (well you need to be rooted too) and that reactivates the stock tethering stuff built into the phone (both mobile ap and usb tethering)
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Well that really isn't helpful(since I have already done all that) but thanks. I'm talking about AT&T's "Tether Police" that monitor data spikes and accuse you of tethering if your data seems different for any other month.
Earlier this year, a At&t added a tethering plan to thousands of accounts based on data usage. They also alerted many more they would do the same. I only know of three people to have this done to them
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Thanks for the tiered data.
Hope you do get caught.
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That's why att sucks ass...
Grapes
I've been unlimited for years now, i don't know nor care how much data I use. I can tether if I want, which means if my home internet goes down and I need my pc, guess what... I'm tethering. I give att $200 per month for my phone plan over the past 4 years at lest, I highly doubt they'll piss me off and attach a tether plan to my account.
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Earlier this year, a At&t added a tethering plan to thousands of accounts based on data usage. They also alerted many more they would do the same. I only know of three people to have this done to them
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While what you say isn't exactly what happened they have been flagging a very large percentage iPhone users who have tethered even for a matter of 3 minutes.
I currently have an iPhone 4 (should finally have my INFUSE today) and only one time have tethered and probably for less than 30 seconds just to see if the Cydia app worked. All I did was go to speedtest.net and ran the test 2 or 3 times. That was it. About 2 weeks later I got the WARNING text. Plan was never changed. They only will change it if you ignore their warning(s) and do not call them to "discuss" it as they request in their text.
As for me, traveling in North, Central and South NJ, AT&T 3G is virtually useless. Speeds are terrible and the latency is horrendous. I have no idea how people can actually regularly use tethering. I guess it's better in other areas. Been that way through 3 iPhones over 4+ years so I have no desire to tether anyway.
I think the tethering and data caps are completely separate issues. ATT had a plan, or at least the idea, for tiered data plans long before the iPhone was even capable of tethering without being jailbroken. Tethering plans are complete bull****, and I'm sure the FCC will eventually make them illegal. If you pay for a data connection, you should be able to use it any way you want. It's like ATT trying to charge you for the separate phones in your house (or at least a premium to allow you to use more than just one phone). I also think the tethering police are a joke too. I'm sure (especially since they allow sideloading), that any kind of traffic that can be generating by a computer can be replicated in android.
I've been using mobile hotspot on my inspire for about 4-5 months after rooting the phone. All was well... I was using my laptop and speed was decent to check emails, youTube, general browsing.
But I just a mail from at&t saying that "we noticed that you have been using the hotspot feature but you don't have the feature addon on your account. If you continue to use the hotspot feature, your account will be billed $45 automatically on your next billing cycle. If don't use the hotspot, you will not be billed". Hmmm... Anyone using hotspot on at&t get something similar notification from at&t?
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I have never heard of this before. Can they do that? Being Sarcastic
Got that back in October. Yes they can do that. I just stopped tethering.
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Yeah. I stopped tethering now. It was kinda weird that at&t sent the letter now.
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This has been covered all ready. ATT is cracking down on all teathering.
Yep, I posted something about this like a month or so ago.. I got the same letter. I just stopped tethering and have yet to hear anything about my data usage since. And I haven't noticed any throttling either except when they were threatening me about the tethering and such
I also got the same message. I'm actually guessing it was because I jumped from light tethering to a temporary massive download session with it. Gonna lay off for a while and see what comes of it.
Do any of the apps out there (like WiFi Tether for Root Users) actually allow you to tether without them noticing?
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I also got the same message. I'm actually guessing it was because I jumped from light tethering to a temporary massive download session with it. Gonna lay off for a while and see what comes of it.
Do any of the apps out there (like WiFi Tether for Root Users) actually allow you to tether without them noticing?
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No. There are some that are saying ATT is watching the packets that are being sent. Unless there is a way to make your PC send packets like a mobile device then there is nothing that can be done short of getting a tethering plan.
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No. There are some that are saying ATT is watching the packets that are being sent. Unless there is a way to make your PC send packets like a mobile device then there is nothing that can be done short of getting a tethering plan.
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Adding a tethering plan when you already have an unlimited data plan is really stupid to be honest. But I guess that's American greed for you.
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Adding a tethering plan when you already have an unlimited data plan is really stupid to be honest. But I guess that's American greed for you.
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Does nobody read the TOS? This has been gone offer alot as of late.
But you are right. The standard of society is motivated by greed.
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Adding a tethering plan when you already have an unlimited data plan is really stupid to be honest. But I guess that's American greed for you.
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American greed? Maybe you better look at non-American cellular plans before you jump on that wagon. You are fortunate to be on a so called unlimited plan. Second your plan was technically never unlimited. 5GB fair use clause in the TOS that you never took the time to read.
ATT has let users slide for years with tethering and I can't remember ever being allowed to tether on an ATT plan without a tethering plan. It is one thing to use it for occassional email or browsing, but it is another to use it for streaming or online video games. It is that abuse that ruins it for everyone. So where is the greed? Is it the US cellular companies which are trying to keep it fair for everyone to enjoy fast and reliable service or is it in the consumer that is given an inch and takes a mile and then calls foul.
There is nothing wierd that anyone tethering, whether small amounts or massive amounts, is getting a letter. How many threads like this have been started? It is well known. ATT and the other major carriers have made it clear. No tethering without a plan. And they are cracking down and they mean it.
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American greed? Maybe you better look at non-American cellular plans before you jump on that wagon. You are fortunate to be on a so called unlimited plan. Second your plan was technically never unlimited. 5GB fair use clause in the TOS that you never took the time to read.
ATT has let users slide for years with tethering and I can't remember ever being allowed to tether on an ATT plan without a tethering plan. It is one thing to use it for occassional email or browsing, but it is another to use it for streaming or online video games. It is that abuse that ruins it for everyone. So where is the greed? Is it the US cellular companies which are trying to keep it fair for everyone to enjoy fast and reliable service or is it in the consumer that is given an inch and takes a mile and then calls foul.
There is nothing wierd that anyone tethering, whether small amounts or massive amounts, is getting a letter. How many threads like this have been started? It is well known. ATT and the other major carriers have made it clear. No tethering without a plan. And they are cracking down and they mean it.
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I totally agree. 10chars
Only thing that gets me is everyone releasing all this new online crap, cloud storage, music/video streaming etc and now they're capping you on data usage. It's almost like its 1997 again and we're paying for AOL by the hour lol... At least having a 5gb package instead of the normal 2gb would be a bit more reasonable
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I've been warned before for something from AT&T I had hacked facetime on my iPhone 3gs they sent me a text saying that my phone wasn't registered for a facetime plan and then after that I guess there were characters my phone didn't recognize and half the message was in squares. The first day I had my iPhone though I had gotten a text and email pretty much telling me to stop tethering even though my iPhone wasn't even "set" up -.- it got me worried but I never got a price change
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PDANET hides the fact that you are tethering and you do not need root. It only works with bluetooth or USB cable, you can not use hotspot.
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If you think that's bad, I got booted off my unlimited plan today for tethering when I havent tethered since October and got the warning text in November :/ The lady at at&t said something about third-party apps using tethering without my knowing and to delete all of them off my phone. Don't know who they are trying to fool
ATT is removing the unlimited plans by any means they can. This is not surprising as they stated publicly that this was the plan. They use the tethering ploy as in common use there is no reason one should be using that much data to be honest with work, family and personal lives. Then add in the fact that wifi is just about everywhere.
AT&T is rubbish.
ATT and sprint belong in the rubbish bin.
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AT&T is rubbish.
ATT and sprint belong in the rubbish bin.
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And you think big red is any better or T-Mobile? They are all doing it. It is about money plain and simple. This is nothing new or surprising
Donate me a few million and I will build us a satellite and we can have all our own service running 15g jkjk I'm tired of restrictions is all... I mean the new T-Mobile commercial says hey you get unlimited everything for 50$ a month then in fine print it says " after 100mb of 4g you're speeds get dropped to 2g" like wtf really? What's the point of having unlimited 2g? I mean I am on a plan with 2gigs of data but only have edge where I'm at I'm glad to have wifi where ever I'm at so it doesn't bother me too much but for companies to say they give us the best and then only give us a taste and tease us with it should be illegal -.-
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