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AT&T cracking down on unauthorized Tethering.

http://www.bgr.com/2011/03/18/att-cracks-down-on-tethering-cheaters/
how do they know? think it's purely based on how much data you are using at once time?
Think they are really doing this or just trying to scare people out of tethering?

There's a big thread on this on another iPhone site, but I'm curious how many android users have gotten this email.

Hmmm I could see a class action lawsuit coming from this. Along the same lines as when Apple tried to make jailbreaking illeagal. Personally I don't see a problem we are using the data we pay for. It should be up to us how we use it.
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what about a class action lawsuit about att 4G BS??
on att map, it shows i have 4G coverage in bayarea, CA but my speedtest never go higher than 4mb! speedtest on inspire 4G is the same as any 3G phones!

I tether once in a while, usually while on vacation. I did not get any notice. I seem to think this is triggered by data usage. I only use about 1GB a month.
Those of you that got notified, how much data do you use in a typical month?

Wow. I too think it's a 5GB or so trigger.

It's more the gateway than anything else. MyWi enables the broadband or ISP.cingular gateway. If we ensure we are going through the wap.cingular gateway then it is less likely. In addition, I would suggest anyone running anything close to stock edit your database in /data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases/telephony.DB and ensure that anything in the area of 410310 doesn't say broadband or ISP.cingular, but wap.cingular or phone instead.

bedwa said:
It's more the gateway than anything else. MyWi enables the broadband or ISP.cingular gateway. If we ensure we are going through the wap.cingular gateway then it is less likely. In addition, I would suggest anyone running anything close to stock edit your database in /data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases/telephony.DB and ensure that anything in the area of 410310 doesn't say broadband or ISP.cingular, but wap.cingular or phone instead.
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Good info, so if you changed your APN to wap.cingular would that do it?

The email in the link says AT&T sends text messages when we hit certain percentages of data used. I have never received such a message. Are they supposed to be automatic, or do I have to enable them?

gunnyman said:
http://www.bgr.com/2011/03/18/att-cracks-down-on-tethering-cheaters/
how do they know? think it's purely based on how much data you are using at once time?
Think they are really doing this or just trying to scare people out of tethering?
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I would say it is a little of both. This is nothing new, not even for AT&T.
Ultimately what it comes down to is, the amount of data you move at one time, services requested and types of packets sent/received. Everything which can be monitored on an automated basis.
For thethering I try not to over-do it, but only use it when I need it.
As far as I am concerned, I already pay for data usage and I should not be restricted on how I use it.

I have read people using 20+ gb a month. Those people deserve to be capped. They are the reason why capped data plans came in the first place. With that said how At&t is detecting this through browser Id's or Ttl is a mystery for now.o
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I've consistently used more than 5 gigs a month the last few months and I don't even tether much at all. The vast majority of my data use occurs on my device.
*Haven't seen the aforementioned text or email btw
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Simba501 said:
I've consistently used more than 5 gigs a month the last few months and I don't even tether much at all. The vast majority of my data use occurs on my device.
*Haven't seen the aforementioned text or email btw
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Ditto what they said.
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Simba501 said:
I've consistently used more than 5 gigs a month the last few months and I don't even tether much at all. The vast majority of my data use occurs on my device.
*Haven't seen the aforementioned text or email btw
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7.5-8 for me, mostly Pandora.

I know this is the Inspire thread but I've been thethering with my HTC pure for months now (between 3-8gb) and have never heard anything... I wonder if it's because I'm directing my data through MediaNet or if I've been lucky so far.

Everything I'm reading says iPhone owners are the only ones getting notices.
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I wonder if they built something into the stock ROM that allows them to track and if by using custom ROMs we avoid detection.

$10 per GB is to much. I see if you upgrade your phone you can not keep your unlimited plan. 4GB is not enough if you do everything from your personal communication device.

I don't think it's unfair for AT&T to bump users off of unlimited plans if they are tethering with their device...the Smartphone data plan is for the phone...not for devices attached to the phone...they did have a 60 dollar tethering plan back in the day that was unlimited on the phone and 5GB for connected devices...I disagree more with AT&T capping DSL/Uverse more than I disagree with Mobile broadband caps...since a smartphone isn't supposed to be a person's primary source for internet

steezee said:
I don't think it's unfair for AT&T to bump users off of unlimited plans if they are tethering with their device...the Smartphone data plan is for the phone...not for devices attached to the phone...they did have a 60 dollar tethering plan back in the day that was unlimited on the phone and 5GB for connected devices...I disagree more with AT&T capping DSL/Uverse more than I disagree with Mobile broadband caps...since a smartphone isn't supposed to be a person's primary source for internet
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I disagree completely. That's like saying a loaf of bread is $3, but if you're going to use it for grilled cheese it's $10. Both loaves make sandwiches, who cares what kind it is. In the end, you'll eventually run out of bread (unless you were grandfathered in).

T-Mobile now charging 14.99 for wifi sharing

This is bull****. Yesterday I was using my mobile ap on my computer and everything was going fine. Then a message popped up in my browser saying to continue using the mobile ap I need to add it to my plan for 14.99. Idk about all of you but I've had no problems since I got this phone at launch using the wifi sharing is there a way around this cuz T-Mobile is really starting to piss me off.
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azcledel said:
This is bull****. Yesterday I was using my mobile ap on my computer and everything was going fine. Then a message popped up in my browser saying to continue using the mobile ap I need to add it to my plan for 14.99. Idk about all of you but I've had no problems since I got this phone at launch using the wifi sharing is there a way around this cuz T-Mobile is really starting to piss me off.
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Yep, don't use the t-mobile tether app download wifi tether for root users from the market and use that. I'm assuming you are rooted?

Yea I'm rooted lol I've tried 3 tethring apps off the market and they had the same result as the built in one. I can't find the one your talking about tho. All I'm finding is the ones I already tried.
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I used pda net but u got to pay the pro to used https websites so no fb or gmail etc
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OP: have you gone over your high-speed data cap? i read somewhere that Tmo mainly charges for tethering if you use a LOT of data. but yeah, that would suck if they are now charging for the use of the data we have already purchased!

yogi2010 said:
OP: have you gone over your high-speed data cap? i read somewhere that Tmo mainly charges for tethering if you use a LOT of data. but yeah, that would suck if they are now charging for the use of the data we have already purchased!
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No they changed it all its an added feature now. I got wifi tethering for root users tho. So I think everyone should get it maybe have it included in roms too seeing as tmobile are being cheap *****es now
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It sounds like it's not the wifi app that's doing it, but the t-mobile data servers. I imagine they're acting as a captive portal, redirecting pageloads from a browser with a desktop user agent to their nag screen or something along those lines. I use a Sidekick 4G with the stock firmware and wifi app up here in Canada on the Wind network and it's been working fine.
(BTW, Wind beats the crap out of any American carrier! Their plans include free tethering.)

Networks are greedy they suck.
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Jax184 said:
It sounds like it's not the wifi app that's doing it, but the t-mobile data servers. I imagine they're acting as a captive portal, redirecting pageloads from a browser with a desktop user agent to their nag screen or something along those lines. I use a Sidekick 4G with the stock firmware and wifi app up here in Canada on the Wind network and it's been working fine.
(BTW, Wind beats the crap out of any American carrier! Their plans include free tethering.)
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A lot of the android browsers are able to set user agent as desktop so I doubt it's that. They have blocked the free tether apps from the market and only provide theirs so I think it's just them monitoring their app.
BTW I'm jealous of your free tethering, as soon as the carriers heard people were doing it here they were quick to monopolize on it

Well, if t-mobile is able to interfere with wifi tethering even when you use a third party wifi tethering app, then there must be something else at play. I can't say what though as I'm not on t-mobile.
<brag> Wind is even better than that. $40.00 after tax for unlimited calling, unlimited long distance to US/Can, unlimited text messaging to anywhere on earth, unlimited data with tethering. And I get that whenever I'm connect to a Wind tower, anywhere in Canada. It doesn't distinguish between my home city and another. And no contract. It's prepaid! </brag>

Jax184 said:
Well, if t-mobile is able to interfere with wifi tethering even when you use a third party wifi tethering app, then there must be something else at play. I can't say what though as I'm not on t-mobile.
<brag> Wind is even better than that. $40.00 after tax for unlimited calling, unlimited long distance to US/Can, unlimited text messaging to anywhere on earth, unlimited data with tethering. And I get that whenever I'm connect to a Wind tower, anywhere in Canada. It doesn't distinguish between my home city and another. And no contract. It's prepaid! </brag>
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What I mean is they block them in the actual market, like you can't download them. They have no way of monitoring 3rd party apps, that's why I think almost all US carriers have capped data so they can try and stop some.
Not fair man, US needs to get on bord with the contract free stuff. A cheap cell phone plan here for unlimitted is $80 a month and that comes with a 2 year contract, at&t and verizon charge around $120 for unlimitted

Have you tried sneaking one of the third party apps on to see how it works?
That's staggeringly awful. This is the most featureful cell phone plan available, and it's $40. I'm told that people in another province got the plan for $35 at one point.

Yeah we have to side load the apps, google search and download from the browser. I've had a copy in my sd card since the g1 days when things were good lol.
We also have at&t trying to buy out t-mobile which would more than likely drive prices up further. there are a few pay as you go carriers that offer cheaper plans for unlimitted data and text (around $40) but the minutes are rarely unlimited, the data is slower, and they are buying towers off the bigger companies so coverage is usually terrible

Not sure if this has been posted yet, but I've always gotten Wireless Tether straight from the Google Code site. It always has the very latest versions, but somtimes earlier ones are the more stable.
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/list

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What I mean is they block them in the actual market, like you can't download them. They have no way of monitoring 3rd party apps, that's why I think almost all US carriers have capped data so they can try and stop some.
Not fair man, US needs to get on bord with the contract free stuff. A cheap cell phone plan here for unlimitted is $80 a month and that comes with a 2 year contract, at&t and verizon charge around $120 for unlimitted
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I dunno man, I got 2 unlim calling lines and 2 lines with their own 500 minutes. All 4 lines have unlim SMS and data (throttled after 2gb), and I pay $132. BUT, I'm on contract. Shoot, for these prices I'd sign up for a 20yr contract lol.

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I dunno man, I got 2 unlim calling lines and 2 lines with their own 500 minutes. All 4 lines have unlim SMS and data (throttled after 2gb), and I pay $132. BUT, I'm on contract. Shoot, for these prices I'd sign up for a 20yr contract lol.
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Yeah that's the only way you can get a good deal, if you have several lines on an account. Unfortunately us americans aren't into the whole "sharing" thing so finding people to sign up with you tends to be difficult ;P

What?
EDIT: Only post paid costumers have that issue... prepaid still doesn't have the tethering service available... so it is enabled by default. http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/addons...PAsset=InternetEmail&tp=Svc_Tab_TetheringWifi
I'm not sure what everyone is talking about... I'm wifi tethering and I've never seen that message. I only tether to a linux computer though. I'm also on the $30 5GB 4G prepaid plan, with unlimited text and 100 mins (I voip with grooVe).
Maybe they are attacking specific customers... I don't think wifi sharing is even an option for prepaid. Perhaps I should stop paying a month in advanced.

oldarney said:
EDIT: Only post paid costumers have that issue... prepaid still doesn't have the tethering service available... so it is enabled by default. http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/addons...PAsset=InternetEmail&tp=Svc_Tab_TetheringWifi
I'm not sure what everyone is talking about... I'm wifi tethering and I've never seen that message. I only tether to a linux computer though. I'm also on the $30 5GB 4G prepaid plan, with unlimited text and 100 mins (I voip with grooVe).
Maybe they are attacking specific customers... I don't think wifi sharing is even an option for prepaid. Perhaps I should stop paying a month in advanced.
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The way tmobile explained it to me was they noticed ppl using it and changed their service if your using it and not getting the message its only a matter of time according to the reps I spoke to. I'm thinking the more data you use that gets picked up as being sent through mobile ap the quicker they catch on and slap you with the message and put a stop to it
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So I'm still getting the tmobile page when I tether to my computer even when using wif tether for root users... this sucks :-/
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oldarney said:
EDIT: Only post paid costumers have that issue... prepaid still doesn't have the tethering service available... so it is enabled by default.
I'm not sure what everyone is talking about... I'm wifi tethering and I've never seen that message. I only tether to a linux computer though. I'm also on the $30 5GB 4G prepaid plan, with unlimited text and 100 mins (I voip with grooVe).
Maybe they are attacking specific customers... I don't think wifi sharing is even an option for prepaid. Perhaps I should stop paying a month in advanced.
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I'm on T-mobile prepaid monthly 4g plan, rooted running GingerClone ROM on my Sidekick 4g, and I've had no problem tethering. (mostly just testing it out to see if it works, running speed tests etc.)
I can see how T-mobile cracks down on post-paid plans running stock software, but with a prepaid plan on a wifi-sharing-capable phone with a custom ROM, I'm in the clear, right? T-mobile can't block tethering or charge me for it?
But ya, charging $14.99 to tether using data that you're already paying for is a complete scam. Seems like a class action suit waiting to happen.

T-mobileTethering access has been blocked.

I got a text msg from T-mobile this morning informing me that MY tethering access has been blocked. They want me to pay $14.00 dollars more a month for me to use my data how i want to (I currently pay $140 for unlimited talk/text and 10gb of data.) To me, this is ridiculous. Is there a work around for this? Any help with this would be greatly appreciated.
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Are you on the stock ROM?
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I am on the latest CM7 Nightly.

try using one of these http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/list you will have to try the different versions. I am using the latest version on CM7 and have no problems tethering. Now i do only have 5gb of data and most likely do not tether anywhere close to you do since you have the 10gb package. I have heard that if you are using the tethering under the network settings T-Mobile has away to find out. Now i am not sure if that is just with the stock rom or all roms. Give it a try you never know. All carriers charge for tethering not just T-Mobile or i think they do. So if you have to pay you have to pay.

How often do you tether, how long do you tether, and what are you doing when you tether?

interesting.. I tether daily for I'd say at least 2 hours total. hell I'm tethered right now. guess ill keep an eye out for that text.

Is your tethering actually being blocked?
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I tether constantly for hours at a time daily.
Ok, so this is really weird. I can tether without issue when using Crome, but when i try to surf out using firefox, im forced to t-mobile's tether page. So it seems to be browser specific. It just so happens that i do web chats using firefox while tethering.

How many gigabytes do you use per month?

About 10gb per.... Why?

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About 10gb per.... Why?
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Because "unlimited" isn't really unlimited. Although you say your plan allows 10GB per month, and you say you are using "about" 10GB, which is kinda vague?
For example, 10.1GB is not "about" 10GB if it's over your limit. To T-Mobile, 10.14GB can add an additional $14 per month
Mobile providers use words in the contract like "abuse", "unusual activity", and other such words. You don't seem to know exactly how much you are using per month, but it's a sure bet you are either going over 10GB or most probably you are tethering in a way that makes T-Mobile suspect unusual activity.
For example, most users use their mobile data bandwidth in spurts, but sustained data transfers gets T-Mobile's attention and can be labelled "unusual activity". It puts a load on T-Mobile's network. By contract, anything you do that affects T-Mobile's overall service will cause T-Mobile to take action.
If you are filesharing over tethering, that is sustained data activity and T-Mobile will know and penalize you for it.

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Because "unlimited" isn't really unlimited. Although you say your plan allows 10GB per month, and you say you are using "about" 10GB, which is kinda vague?
For example, 10.1GB is not "about" 10GB if it's over your limit. To T-Mobile, 10.14GB can add an additional $14 per month
Mobile providers use words in the contract like "abuse", "unusual activity", and other such words. You don't seem to know exactly how much you are using per month, but it's a sure bet you are either going over 10GB or most probably you are tethering in a way that makes T-Mobile suspect unusual activity.
For example, most users use their mobile data bandwidth in spurts, but sustained data transfers gets T-Mobile's attention and can be labelled "unusual activity". It puts a load on T-Mobile's network. By contract, anything you do that affects T-Mobile's overall service will cause T-Mobile to take action.
If you are filesharing over tethering, that is sustained data activity and T-Mobile will know and penalize you for it.
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Excellent response couldnt have said it better myself. Becareful with the "abuse" of the data, i have a buddy of mine that was FORCED to have a 2gb plan. Yet again he is on att lol

Along with the above statements, I did a bit of research before I started tethering on CM7.
Put simply, you can tether all you want as long as you don't go over the data cap. The only reason you've received that message is because you went over.

T-Mobile has no special way to tell you're tethering on the G2x. They can on the SGSII, Amaze, LG MyTouch series, and a few other of the newest phones that are programmed in the tethering code to use an entirely different APN similar to the way that iPhones do. The G2x, however, does nothing of the sort.

jamadio said:
Along with the above statements, I did a bit of research before I started tethering on CM7.
Put simply, you can tether all you want as long as you don't go over the data cap...
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Wrong.
Even if you are under the data cap if you show long sustained data activity such as filesharing, T-Mobile will penalize you for it.
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T-Mobile has no special way to tell you're tethering on the G2x.
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Yes they can tell. Any child can tell if the connection is tethered simply by looking at the HTTP headers!

Tethering to a tablet
Ok. I just got a Toshiba thrive for Christmas. Is tethering to that seen any different? Just curious seeing as it's an Android device. I only Tether in spurts so I don't use a **** ton of data during(no file sharing). Thanks.

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Wrong.
Even if you are under the data cap if you show long sustained data activity such as filesharing, T-Mobile will penalize you for it.
Yes they can tell. Any child can tell if the connection is tethered simply by looking at the HTTP headers!
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The only way they can tell is by user agent string and that requires someone actually looking, which isn't usually being done...

I wireless tether to my laptop 4 hrs and sometime more everyday. I play games on facebook. I have a pre-paid 5 GB data, unlimited talk and txt for $70 a month and I have yet to be block since I changed to it. I did however get blocked when I was on a regular plan as I hit 2gb of the 5gb I had. I did the same amount of tethering then as I do know.
So why then and not now, I really couldn't tell you.
If you're using 10 gb a month, you're doing more than social browsing or facebook apps. Stop downloading the movies and music and you will see a difference. 10 gb? Really?
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So I just got t989 and I wanted to tether but now I'm forced to pay, I use to have sgs4g and tethering was free. So do I have to just root or install a custom ROM to avoid adding tethering option to my plan
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The only way they can tell is by user agent string and that requires someone actually looking, which isn't usually being done...
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Nope. Wrong.
Not just the user-agent string, but the entire HTTP headers. You can examine the packets also and learn a lot (is it a TCP or UDP? Is it FTP or HTTP?)
These things are done automatically by monitoring software.
Stop making **** up.

Warning! Using hotspot on at&t

I've been using mobile hotspot on my inspire for about 4-5 months after rooting the phone. All was well... I was using my laptop and speed was decent to check emails, youTube, general browsing.
But I just a mail from at&t saying that "we noticed that you have been using the hotspot feature but you don't have the feature addon on your account. If you continue to use the hotspot feature, your account will be billed $45 automatically on your next billing cycle. If don't use the hotspot, you will not be billed". Hmmm... Anyone using hotspot on at&t get something similar notification from at&t?
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I have never heard of this before. Can they do that? Being Sarcastic

Got that back in October. Yes they can do that. I just stopped tethering.
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Yeah. I stopped tethering now. It was kinda weird that at&t sent the letter now.
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This has been covered all ready. ATT is cracking down on all teathering.

Yep, I posted something about this like a month or so ago.. I got the same letter. I just stopped tethering and have yet to hear anything about my data usage since. And I haven't noticed any throttling either except when they were threatening me about the tethering and such

I also got the same message. I'm actually guessing it was because I jumped from light tethering to a temporary massive download session with it. Gonna lay off for a while and see what comes of it.
Do any of the apps out there (like WiFi Tether for Root Users) actually allow you to tether without them noticing?

voyagerfan99 said:
I also got the same message. I'm actually guessing it was because I jumped from light tethering to a temporary massive download session with it. Gonna lay off for a while and see what comes of it.
Do any of the apps out there (like WiFi Tether for Root Users) actually allow you to tether without them noticing?
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No. There are some that are saying ATT is watching the packets that are being sent. Unless there is a way to make your PC send packets like a mobile device then there is nothing that can be done short of getting a tethering plan.

zelendel said:
No. There are some that are saying ATT is watching the packets that are being sent. Unless there is a way to make your PC send packets like a mobile device then there is nothing that can be done short of getting a tethering plan.
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Adding a tethering plan when you already have an unlimited data plan is really stupid to be honest. But I guess that's American greed for you.

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Adding a tethering plan when you already have an unlimited data plan is really stupid to be honest. But I guess that's American greed for you.
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Does nobody read the TOS? This has been gone offer alot as of late.
But you are right. The standard of society is motivated by greed.

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Adding a tethering plan when you already have an unlimited data plan is really stupid to be honest. But I guess that's American greed for you.
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American greed? Maybe you better look at non-American cellular plans before you jump on that wagon. You are fortunate to be on a so called unlimited plan. Second your plan was technically never unlimited. 5GB fair use clause in the TOS that you never took the time to read.
ATT has let users slide for years with tethering and I can't remember ever being allowed to tether on an ATT plan without a tethering plan. It is one thing to use it for occassional email or browsing, but it is another to use it for streaming or online video games. It is that abuse that ruins it for everyone. So where is the greed? Is it the US cellular companies which are trying to keep it fair for everyone to enjoy fast and reliable service or is it in the consumer that is given an inch and takes a mile and then calls foul.
There is nothing wierd that anyone tethering, whether small amounts or massive amounts, is getting a letter. How many threads like this have been started? It is well known. ATT and the other major carriers have made it clear. No tethering without a plan. And they are cracking down and they mean it.

Agoattamer said:
American greed? Maybe you better look at non-American cellular plans before you jump on that wagon. You are fortunate to be on a so called unlimited plan. Second your plan was technically never unlimited. 5GB fair use clause in the TOS that you never took the time to read.
ATT has let users slide for years with tethering and I can't remember ever being allowed to tether on an ATT plan without a tethering plan. It is one thing to use it for occassional email or browsing, but it is another to use it for streaming or online video games. It is that abuse that ruins it for everyone. So where is the greed? Is it the US cellular companies which are trying to keep it fair for everyone to enjoy fast and reliable service or is it in the consumer that is given an inch and takes a mile and then calls foul.
There is nothing wierd that anyone tethering, whether small amounts or massive amounts, is getting a letter. How many threads like this have been started? It is well known. ATT and the other major carriers have made it clear. No tethering without a plan. And they are cracking down and they mean it.
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I totally agree. 10chars

Only thing that gets me is everyone releasing all this new online crap, cloud storage, music/video streaming etc and now they're capping you on data usage. It's almost like its 1997 again and we're paying for AOL by the hour lol... At least having a 5gb package instead of the normal 2gb would be a bit more reasonable
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I've been warned before for something from AT&T I had hacked facetime on my iPhone 3gs they sent me a text saying that my phone wasn't registered for a facetime plan and then after that I guess there were characters my phone didn't recognize and half the message was in squares. The first day I had my iPhone though I had gotten a text and email pretty much telling me to stop tethering even though my iPhone wasn't even "set" up -.- it got me worried but I never got a price change
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PDANET hides the fact that you are tethering and you do not need root. It only works with bluetooth or USB cable, you can not use hotspot.
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If you think that's bad, I got booted off my unlimited plan today for tethering when I havent tethered since October and got the warning text in November :/ The lady at at&t said something about third-party apps using tethering without my knowing and to delete all of them off my phone. Don't know who they are trying to fool

ATT is removing the unlimited plans by any means they can. This is not surprising as they stated publicly that this was the plan. They use the tethering ploy as in common use there is no reason one should be using that much data to be honest with work, family and personal lives. Then add in the fact that wifi is just about everywhere.

AT&T is rubbish.
ATT and sprint belong in the rubbish bin.

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AT&T is rubbish.
ATT and sprint belong in the rubbish bin.
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And you think big red is any better or T-Mobile? They are all doing it. It is about money plain and simple. This is nothing new or surprising

Donate me a few million and I will build us a satellite and we can have all our own service running 15g jkjk I'm tired of restrictions is all... I mean the new T-Mobile commercial says hey you get unlimited everything for 50$ a month then in fine print it says " after 100mb of 4g you're speeds get dropped to 2g" like wtf really? What's the point of having unlimited 2g? I mean I am on a plan with 2gigs of data but only have edge where I'm at I'm glad to have wifi where ever I'm at so it doesn't bother me too much but for companies to say they give us the best and then only give us a taste and tease us with it should be illegal -.-
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Anyone tethering with AT&T's unlimited plan?

Coming from an iPhone 4s I could really use the tethering but fear AT&T will yank it from me. I'm not exactly a light user and use around 2.5-3GB of data a month. Now that I have a rooted SkyRocket I'd like to use it as a portable hospot and tether to my iPad. My iPad plugs right into my car stereo, whereas the SR does not. I want to stream pandora via my iPad running off my SR's hotspot. Its about a 20 minute ride to my school and I use about 10-15MB doing this.
So what I want to know is, will AT&T catch on? I don't plan on going crazy with the tethering because I know that's how your account can get flagged. I'd like to ge the opinions of others who are currently violating AT&T's Terms of Service lol.
My understanding is, they can detect it no matter what, and first they send a message, and then they kick you off it adding the 5GB ($50) plan.

I have been warned once and threatened once. They can and do know if you are tethering through packet inspection. There is no way around it. It's best to not do it because they will find out regardless and you WILL lose your unlimited plan. They will not give it back once its gone either.

tomtommy306 said:
I have been warned once and threatened once. They can and do know if you are tethering through packet inspection. There is no way around it. It's best to not do it because they will find out regardless and you WILL lose your unlimited plan. They will not give it back once its gone either.
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That's what I figured. Then again, why do all these rom developers add the capability?

MattMJB0188 said:
That's what I figured. Then again, why do all these rom developers add the capability?
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Because some people don't care if they get warned.... You can always change a tiered plan back to normal, but not the unlimited plan.

MattMJB0188 said:
Coming from an iPhone 4s I could really use the tethering but fear AT&T will yank it from me. I'm not exactly a light user and use around 2.5-3GB of data a month. Now that I have a rooted SkyRocket I'd like to use it as a portable hospot and tether to my iPad. My iPad plugs right into my car stereo, whereas the SR does not. I want to stream pandora via my iPad running off my SR's hotspot. Its about a 20 minute ride to my school and I use about 10-15MB doing this.
So what I want to know is, will AT&T catch on? I don't plan on going crazy with the tethering because I know that's how your account can get flagged. I'd like to ge the opinions of others who are currently violating AT&T's Terms of Service lol.
My understanding is, they can detect it no matter what, and first they send a message, and then they kick you off it adding the 5GB ($50) plan.
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It's been about six months since I used tethering without official ATT plan.
I only used occasionally every week or so for about two years. They never found me nor charged me.
Interesting leak in the crippled tethering manager on GB captivate.
After letting it force close due to a bug, you can relaunch it and tether freely.
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I'd just recremend download the music you want to listen to onto your ipad instead of streaming it... nothing wrong with that?
I tether every now and then and never been caught/any warnings.. at mostly only tether when my friends need wifi or for my kindle fire which is rarely..

Juicy555 said:
I'd just recremend download the music you want to listen to onto your ipad instead of streaming it... nothing wrong with that?
I tether every now and then and never been caught/any warnings.. at mostly only tether when my friends need wifi or for my kindle fire which is rarely..
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I meant stream Pandora.

MattMJB0188 said:
I meant stream Pandora.
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I know, just download music on your ipad instead of streaming & the possibility of your unlimited data plan going

Its pretty ridiculous that we can't tether a small amount, yet someone who pays $20 more can tether 5GB.

MattMJB0188 said:
Its pretty ridiculous that we can't tether a small amount, yet someone who pays $20 more can tether 5GB.
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Its not that there concerned about us that would use little but for those who would try to run there entire home network on it. The real abusers are what screw it up for the rest of us. I have seen people with Data usage over 50gbs and those are the people who ruin it for everyone else.
I watch Netflix 5 days a week for about an hour or two. Stream Pandora 4-5 hours a day and I have hardly ever used over 5gbs.. the most was 7gbs.
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xKrisx said:
Its not that there concerned about us that would use little but for those who would try to run there entire home network on it. The real abusers are what screw it up for the rest of us. I have seen people with Data usage over 50gbs and those are the people who ruin it for everyone else.
I watch Netflix 5 days a week for about an hour or two. Stream Pandora 4-5 hours a day and I have hardly ever used over 5gbs.. the most was 7gbs.
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Panorama quality blows. I use Spotify on LOW bandwidth streaming, better than panora's high quality, and I hit 2gbs a month just from that. Netflix hits 200-300megs each movie.. So I'm not sure how you are getting these stats.
I'm at 4.8 gigs right now and half of that is Spotify.
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well I tether netflix from my phone to my tab every day taking the train back in forth to work. I recieved a text once from them saying I'm using to much data and they will so my bandwith down if i continue. I ignored it then a month later i was threatened again that they would automaticly upgrade me to the tethering pro plan if i did not upgrade. so now I was pissed I kept the texts and call att corprate office kept asking for the highest manager i could talk to and after talking to him and explaining that when you enter a agreament for unlimited data and i pay every month i should not be threatened for using the data i was paying for. After that call I have never been bothered again and its been over 6 months.

Who/ where did you call?
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I tether with mine on the unlimited plan. I don't use it TOO much, maybe a gig a month, but when I do it's an Iconia A500 Android tablet to do remote desktop and some Netflix now and again. Never been warned or threatened and I've been doing it since my 3GS days a few years back. I'm sure it won't last forever, but I'll enjoy it while it lasts