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Nexus S 4G or keep my thunderbolt?

Hey everybody ive been thinkn bout switchn to the nexus s 4g, i currently have the thunderbolt for verizon. i know i have to switch to sprint and thats not a problem. the questions i have is should i take the plunge? hows sprints coverage? or should i just wait for the next nexus to come out? and can you all share your pros and cons of your device? thank you all in advance.

I dont have Sprint nor a Nexus s 4g, but I do have a Nexus s on T-Mobile. This is the best phone I've ever owned ... I haven't had any problems with it. Plus stock Android is amazing. I know HTC sense UI has it's pros and its cons but I take stock Android anyday.
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Ok and yes i luv stock android. I am rooted and running CM7 alpha i got rid of sense as soon as i could.
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jr313 said:
Hey everybody ive been thinkn bout switchn to the nexus s 4g, i currently have the thunderbolt for verizon. i know i have to switch to sprint and thats not a problem. the questions i have is should i take the plunge? hows sprints coverage? or should i just wait for the next nexus to come out? and can you all share your pros and cons of your device? thank you all in advance.
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Since I've never used a Thunderbolt, you'll have to take the following with a grain of salt. First, Verizon's coverage is much better than Sprint's coverage. Sprint's 'nationwide' coverage has next to no native coverage in Montana, North Dakota, South Dakota, Wyoming, and Nevada. Other areas are more sparse than Verizon as well. However, Sprint has free roaming with 3G speeds (assuming Verizon has 3G in that area). You won't get Sprint services like Sprint Navigation, TV, etc. while roaming (at least I don't think you do).
I had the nexus s 4g for about a month, but ultimately returned it. The only reason I returned it was that I did not have a signal at my workplace. My previous phones have all had pretty poor signal at my work, but the nexus was a just a little worse (enough that it wouldn't receive the majority of calls/text, whereas my older phones would get most of them). The coverage is bad there since it's basically a concrete block and I had no problems anywhere else with the nexus s. The minor things were creaky battery cover (probably just on mine and could have been fixed with a new cover) and no led notification light.
The things I liked were good battery life (even with poor signal at my work), standard google with no sprint branding at all, native hotspot feature works like google intended it to work, the size was really nice, amoled screen looked very good, and the phone was very fast in everything I did. It was also very easy to root and get superuser on (other than needing to move some of the tools in android sdk from 'platform-tools' to 'tools').

They're making a radio update. Should've waited.
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The only thing you might miss is Verizons network. Me and mikeyinid both switched from the Thunderbolt and I can personally say it was the best decision I have made.

O ok. How much better of a phone is it than the TB? I do worry bout the coverage i travel a lot throughout MI and other states as well i drive a truck.
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jr313 said:
O ok. How much better of a phone is it than the TB? I do worry bout the coverage i travel a lot throughout MI and other states as well i drive a truck.
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Look up the sprint map about coverage in the other hand I'll go with the nexus man stock android blows out of the water in speed , I had an evo (thunderbolt brother , practicly with a few updates ) LTE is great tho (where it works )
Ok so I had and Evo with CM7 stable but still some how had bugs , on nexus s I don't have any bugs and I don't even miss 720 p video recording , and I'm happy that I'm getting upsates straight from google , the evo got gingerbread 2.3.3 and 2.3.4 is out and I bet that's probably the last update for evo so not gtalk video chat ... btw I'm in las vegas and I switch from verizon to sprint cheaper service and in my already better service most of the time
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Like mbh87 said, we both came to the NS4G from the Bolt, and while I do miss the awesome service, the Nexus makes it worth it. I have no regrets switching. If your running CM on your bolt then the switch is a no brainer Not to mention your gonna save money with sprint. Don't let them talk you into a big plan. The 69 + 10 dollar for wimax is unlimited mobile to mobile on any network... Very good deal.
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Not to mention Sprint gives discount for almost everything. Check with your employer, bank, etc. I get 10% for being a credit union member, not much but its better than nothing and it got me free activation.

N00bsploder101 said:
They're making a radio update. Should've waited.
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If it really improves the signal, I'll just buy it again . I didn't have to pay a restocking fee, so I'm not out anything other than my time spent going to the Sprint store. I'll wait until the Evo 3D and/or the update gets released to make up my mind.

mbh87 said:
Not to mention Sprint gives discount for almost everything. Check with your employer, bank, etc. I get 10% for being a credit union member, not much but its better than nothing and it got me free activation.
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Yup I get 25% because I told them the verizon were giving me that (they were doing 19% ) , so the guy get me 25 % lol
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N00bsploder101 said:
They're making a radio update. Should've waited.
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hey, i was just wondering, do you have a link to that info? i haven't heard of anything about it, but would be awesome if they did.
to the op, verizon's always gonna have better general coverage than sprint, but if your area has good sprint coverage then it shouldnt really be a problem. also sprint is always gonna be generally cheaper than verizon (not to mention they'll give you a $125 bill credit if you port your verizon number over to the nexus before the end of this month).
As far as the nexus s 4g goes, man its smooth like butter the combination of hardware/software has given me almost zero lag in the UI. but your best bet is to just go test it out at the store.
and the nexus 3, shoot thats a tough call. i was gonna wait for it and not get the ns4g on contract, but im such a big fan of the nexus that im just gonna buy the nexus 3 outright when it comes out and sell this one or possibly keep both (i love it that much).

Thanks for all the info guys! and im goin to be gettn my nexus s 4g SOON as i get rid of this bolt, yous swayed me with all the good reviews! then i took the advice of goin to play with it hands on and man its crazy smooth and fast and thats even without bn rooted and oc'd, man i can only imagine. thank you all for bn cool enuff to help a brotha out, i shall be hangn out with yous very soon.

Don't buy the Evo3d btw.
Wait for the nexus 3.
The main advantages the nexus s has over the thunderbolt is the cpu and gpu, and screen of course.

jr313 said:
Thanks for all the info guys! and im goin to be gettn my nexus s 4g SOON as i get rid of this bolt, yous swayed me with all the good reviews! then i took the advice of goin to play with it hands on and man its crazy smooth and fast and thats even without bn rooted and oc'd, man i can only imagine. thank you all for bn cool enuff to help a brotha out, i shall be hangn out with yous very soon.
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Well let us know when you get it and if you got the thunderbolt rooted it will be a piece of cake to do this one
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N00bsploder101 said:
They're making a radio update. Should've waited.
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all hearsay, nothing is confirmed. i too returned mine and bought a new evo. feels good to have a decent signal for a change.

dario3040 said:
Don't buy the Evo3d btw.
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the evo3d is ok but id wait to see if comes locked or not.

fixxxer2008 said:
all hearsay, nothing is confirmed. i too returned mine and bought a new evo. feels good to have a decent signal for a change.
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Lol
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Well considering sprint has the largest voice coverage in the US, switching to Sprint isn't a bad way to go if you are looking for good voice coverage.
Verizon has better 3G coverage though, and better 4G coverage.
Overall, my only issue with the nexus s 4g (vs. my old evo) is the wifi antenna is not as good. While the bars jump around much more than the evo, I get similar performance/coverage.
If fast data speeds are very important to you, verizon is probably a better bet. If you just need data connection to grab emails, use google navigation, etc, sprint works great.

getting better up speed?

so I have this phone on ATT, and I switched from the atrix to this. I put the sim card from my atrix into this and i cant get anything above 100 kbps up, seems wayyy to slow...wondering if it has something to do with the throttling ATT did for the Atrix? I changed my phone on my online profile, but I don't know what else to do to get decent speeds...any ideas?

I dont believe the T-mobile nexus s supports At&t's 3g network. You're probably on edge

soryazlawl said:
I dont believe the T-mobile nexus s supports At&t's 3g network. You're probably on edge
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It's not the T-mobile version.... its the 9020A which works on ATT 3g.....

I hear that you will need to flash a new radio for the ATT version. I believe KD3 will help with your speed. Where did you get the NS?
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sl8125 said:
I hear that you will need to flash a new radio for the ATT version. I believe KD3 will help with your speed. Where did you get the NS?
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ebay, a little over a month ago

anyone have any solutions?

As stated above, flash a different radio such as KB3 or KD1 or something.
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Getting around the data cap?

Is there anyway I can get around the data cap I have a 9020a nexus s under tmobile, I am rooted an currently miui if that helps...

Technically tmo does not have a cap. After 2.5gb, your speeds slow down.
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Thanks for the reply, if I use android tether can they see our monitor it?

Yes
carlost24 said:
Thanks for the reply, if I use android tether can they see our monitor it?
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Is it 2.5 or 5gb? Cuz mine slows after 5gb.
...in bed.

Mine says 5gb, now I can't even download a rom without it taking forever, anybody know how the sprint service is? an if they are truly unlimited? cuz this slow down is ridiculous, I use my phone for tethering an this slow down is killing me

In Germany T-Mobile slows down after 200/300mb per month in the cheaper contracts, but in my region they don't throttle properly as it's low population anyways, loving that (though I never get HSDPA+ speed).
To answer the op:
There was a hack for another phone that worked until T-Mobile fixed it. Now all the limiting is done "carrier side".

So there no way around this? If not I might be moving to the evo 3D an sprint cuz I can't deal with the slow down especially if I watch a movie while I'm tethering I don't even think it will load lol smh, been with tmo since 06 never had a problem with them an now they pull this slow down **** smh tmo smh

Just trade you NS and get NS4G from sprint. Unless you really want that 3d I would make sure you do the research before getting it. The EVO 3d does not have root yet.
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I believe 3d has root now

Let me tell you, EDGE is faster than sprint 3g most of the times, now, if you live in a 4g area that is different history!

dmora01 said:
Let me tell you, EDGE is faster than sprint 3g most of the times, now, if you live in a 4g area that is different history!
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Im in new york so im guessing it should be alright, just so I don't waste 200 buying out my contract from tmo threats nothing I can do to get around the cap?

carlost24 said:
Im in new york so im guessing it should be alright, just so I don't waste 200 buying out my contract from tmo threats nothing I can do to get around the cap?
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I'm in NYC, and it isn't. 3G is normally around 200-400kbs. 4G is fast but most of the time its useless if you're moving around the city. Basically most situations where it works (home, office, etc.), I'm stationary and almost always have WiFi. Its no replacement for 3G.
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obsanity said:
Just trade you NS and get NS4G from sprint. Unless you really want that 3d I would make sure you do the research before getting it. The EVO 3d does not have root yet.
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NS4G reception sucks o Sprint!

volblood said:
NS4G reception sucks o Sprint!
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Just the NS4G? hows it evo 3d?

carlost24 said:
Is there anyway I can get around the data cap I have a 9020a nexus s under tmobile, I am rooted an currently miui if that helps...
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Can you even use tmobile 3g with 9020a? I thought you need 9020t for that.
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carlost24 said:
Just the NS4G? hows it evo 3d?
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bought the 3D for my dad, had it for two days before being able to give it to him. It was the same in my experience. I'm starting to get the feeling that most people are just experiencing Sprint's now crappy network and not the NS4G.
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[Q] skyrocket on tmo usa! possible trade please help!

long story short i got a guy wanting to trade me a skyrocket for my xoom. he claims hes getting 3/4g data on this device using a tmo usa sim. possible? yes he has rooted it and its overclocked to 1.7mhz.
thoughts???

Anyone...
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What's your question, I don't even understand.
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trade and ill buy the skyrocket from u.

silver03wrx said:
trade and ill buy the skyrocket from u.
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lol id like to keep it if i can get 3/4g download and upload speeds on it with my tmo sim.

Yeah..just flash T-Mobile radio..though I've never gotten good upload speeds I range between 4 to 7 down when I'm on 3g..you won't get 4g.
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jamesd86 said:
Yeah..just flash T-Mobile radio..though I've never gotten good upload speeds I range between 4 to 7 down when I'm on 3g..you won't get 4g.
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is this phone THAT MUCH better than the att and tmobile branded galaxy s2?

The SR is capable of flying on TMO's WCDMA bands.. However its not as perfect as a T989 would be, but very usable. Biggest issue i've had with using it on tmo was the random drops of data. (Nothing major, just every once in a while it'd tank and I'd have to go to airplane mode and back out to get it going again)
To directly answer your question: Yes the Skyrocket can be made to function on Tmobile 3g/4g (non lte obviously)
It will require an unlock code though.

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The SR is capable of flying on TMO's WCDMA bands.. However its not as perfect as a T989 would be, but very usable. Biggest issue i've had with using it on tmo was the random drops of data. (Nothing major, just every once in a while it'd tank and I'd have to go to airplane mode and back out to get it going again)
To directly answer your question: Yes the Skyrocket can be made to function on Tmobile 3g/4g (non lte obviously)
It will require an unlock code though.
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y don't u try flashing the vk1 radio? then u basically have a t989

i got one for my fiance can you link me to a unlock site thats not very expensive. i also heard on tmobile prepaid it works great 5-7mbs thats good

kdm212 said:
is this phone THAT MUCH better than the att and tmobile branded galaxy s2?
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No........this phone is not THAT MUCH BETTER than the S II. But you cannot get 4G with the S II. But many things about the S II are still very good or better than SkyR....starting from the processor - not its speed but its quality.

chappatti said:
No........this phone is not THAT MUCH BETTER than the S II. But you cannot get 4G with the S II. But many things about the S II are still very good or better than SkyR....starting from the processor - not its speed but its quality.
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S3 @ 1.5 beats exynos at 1.2 lol. S3 @ 1.2? Now that's a different story

International One X vs AT&T One X? Any advice from people with both phones?

I currently Have a ATT HTC One X back ordered on Amazon. While waiting it got me thinking maybe I should just grab the international version instead. Im so confused on what to do. Paying full price is not really a problem because it will just save my upgrade. Also I dont have LTE in my area yet, and even when it did come I think I would be fine with 4-6 mbs that HSPA provides. The main reason I want the INT is because of the extra storage space. Ive heard the CPUs are about the same (maybe S4 even being a little quicker). Hows the battery life on both? Is there any other factors or differences I am over looking. Any input from some one with both phones would be great! Thanks.

PeterHTC has done an excellent writeup on this topic, and tons of subsequent discussion by other members on that thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1609878
Do you already have AT&T service? Your Sprint logo avator is confusing.

Thanks for the link, reading it now. Ya I am on sprint now until I get my One X. Was about to call and cancel my service the day before it was going to ship but then it got back ordered. Glad I didn't yet lol. Either way I am switching soon, either going to get INT version or just bite the $50 bullet and go get one from AT&T or Best Buy.

My 2 cents.
I had the Intl One X on release and it was very buggy.
To the point that I sold it in a week and stayed on my iPhone until the ATT version came out.
The ATT version is rock sold over the Intl version, but I'm really missing the extra storage.
If there were new software updates on the Intl version that fixed all the issues I might swap back, yes I do have LTE were I live and yes its super fast, but what I do on my phone doesn't really require a 20 mb download. I'd like to store ripped videos for travel and not rely so much on streaming which you have to do on the ATT One X.

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Ya I am on sprint now until I get my One X.
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Reason I ask, do you know for a fact that you will have decent HSPA+ speed on AT&T where you need it? My house is supposed to be in a 4G HSPA+ coverage zone. But I was getting dismal data speeds often around 0.2 to 0.5 Mbps, and maybe 1 Mbps at best. Now on LTE, I get 27 Mbps in the same location.
At my work, I was usually getting from 3 to 5 Mbps on HSPA+. Not bad, and just fine for most things. But the HSPA+ at my house were near useless sometimes.

Why wouldn't you just get Evo LTE? It has a bigger battery and a sd card slot!
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c5satellite2 said:
Why wouldn't you just get Evo LTE? It has a bigger battery and a sd card slot!
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It's sprint... nuff said
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Everybody says they're fine with hspa+ until they actually experience LTE speeds. When I went back home too Houston and was consistently getting over 44Mbps down, I was literally blown away. It's that much of a difference.
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My international phone arrived today. I think I'm returning it. Staying with a US model and its warranty seems safer.

Ya sprint sucks man. Horrible data speeds. Also IMO Evo 4glte is super ugly.
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gunnyman said:
My international phone arrived today. I think I'm returning it. Staying with a US model and its warranty seems safer.
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Interesting, care to explain the reasons? I had an opportunity to trade 1 for 1 with a international version so I'm curious.
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Just the security of knowing I can get a warranty replacement from att if I need it.

For gaming: International
For everything else: AT&T HOX

c5satellite2 said:
Why wouldn't you just get Evo LTE? It has a bigger battery and a sd card slot!
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I was thinking the EVO 4G LTE for those same reasons, but apparently the battery life is just OK. It proves yet again that hardware specs mean nothing if Carriers screw up the firmware. What other explanation could there be for poor battery life, other than CDMA uses alot more battery than GSM?

I just switched from sprint to the att one x and its wayyyyyyy better!!! And the speeds are way better! I was happy to get 6 down and today I got an lte signal (live in cleveland not official) and I got 50 down outside and 35 inside my house which is better then the .035 from sprint lol
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lamenramen said:
I was thinking the EVO 4G LTE for those same reasons, but apparently the battery life is just OK. It proves yet again that hardware specs mean nothing if Carriers screw up the firmware. What other explanation could there be for poor battery life, other than CDMA uses alot more battery than GSM?
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You said it CDMA drains battery faster thats why they prob put the bigger battery in there. No sd card and only 16 GB of internal (actually even less lol) will suck but ill get used to it. The pros of the phone outways the cons. Pretty sure Im just gonna stick with the Att HOX.
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gunnyman said:
My international phone arrived today. I think I'm returning it. Staying with a US model and its warranty seems safer.
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LOL, so the grass isn't any greener over there?
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gunnyman said:
My international phone arrived today. I think I'm returning it. Staying with a US model and its warranty seems safer.
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Lol...you're all over the place man
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You people act like you never changed your minds about something.

gunnyman said:
You people act like you never changed your minds about something.
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No im glad you said that that pretty much made up my mind on getting the ATT version
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