How can I swap the internal and external sdcards? I tried editing the vold.fstab but was only able to mount the external as /sdcard. But I couldn't get the internal to mount at /sdcard/external_sd.
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I am curious - why you would want to do that on this device?
marvin02 said:
I am curious - why you would want to do that on this device?
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I don't remember if it was the OP or not, but someone had so many apps they wouldn't fit in the internal
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I have rooted my Nook Color (Blue Dot) with Clockwork, and CM7 Nightly install from 11-16-2011. I installed all the OS data on the internal memory in the Nook. I have a 8GB SD (Class 10) card that that I used to do the root, but now when I try to mount the SD to use to install apps to it, I can only get 1GB as SD Card and the rest mounts as /mnt/emmc. I can't seem to get it to mount the whole card as SD. I have tried using a partition manager on a Windows and Linux machine to partition it, but that did not work. Is there something that I am doing wrong? I want to be able to use the whole card mounted since I use apps and a 512 MB Swap file. One thing that I thought it may be is when I rooted the Nook I used the the 1GB image of Clockwork 3.2.0.1 since I could not find a 8GB image. The only 8GB image I could find was of CWM 3.0.2.8. I don't think that that would be the problem though. You guys have any ideas? Any help would be greatly appreciated. MODS, you can move this to the Android Forum if needed.
nevermind misread your q
Wingwalker84 said:
I have rooted my Nook Color (Blue Dot) with Clockwork, and CM7 Nightly install from 11-16-2011. I installed all the OS data on the internal memory in the Nook. I have a 8GB SD (Class 10) card that that I used to do the root, but now when I try to mount the SD to use to install apps to it, I can only get 1GB as SD Card and the rest mounts as /mnt/emmc. I can't seem to get it to mount the whole card as SD. I have tried using a partition manager on a Windows and Linux machine to partition it, but that did not work. Is there something that I am doing wrong? I want to be able to use the whole card mounted since I use apps and a 512 MB Swap file. One thing that I thought it may be is when I rooted the Nook I used the the 1GB image of Clockwork 3.2.0.1 since I could not find a 8GB image. The only 8GB image I could find was of CWM 3.0.2.8. I don't think that that would be the problem though. You guys have any ideas? Any help would be greatly appreciated. MODS, you can move this to the Android Forum if needed.
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That is how CM roms mount the external SD cards.
So I won't be able to mount the card and run more than 1GB of apps from it? Or is there a way to mount it and run the apps from /mnt/emmc. Also, when I remove the SD card, the mount of the SD card at the top (the 1GB one) stays mounted...should it?
Wingwalker84 said:
So I won't be able to mount the card and run more than 1GB of apps from it? Or is there a way to mount it and run the apps from /mnt/emmc. Also, when I remove the SD card, the mount of the SD card at the top (the 1GB one) stays mounted...should it?
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Yes the one that stays mounted is your internal storage system. If it only has a max of 1gb then that is all you can store on it. The only way to safely unmount the the internal storage is in recovery as it is not using it but it is not advised. You can find an app that will move apps to SD card and have some bigger apps on there but mind you widgets will not work if the app is on the SD card. Here is a screen shot of my device. The 1.3 gb is my phones on board storage and the 29.81 gb is my external 32 gb sd card.
Ok, thanks for the info. What app is that that you took a screen shot of, and off the top of your head, you know of any that will flip the apps to the SD card? If not I will research it, I am sure it can't be to hard to find one.
Wingwalker84 said:
Ok, thanks for the info. What app is that that you took a screen shot of, and off the top of your head, you know of any that will flip the apps to the SD card? If not I will research it, I am sure it can't be to hard to find one.
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The app is android assistant and depending on your OS version apps2sd should work. I know never versions of the OS has the ability built in
Ok. I tried Link2SD, but it said it was moving it to the SD card, but it moved it to the 1GB mount not to the /mnt/emmc where I have the 7.5GB of free space. I will try the apps2SD and see if that works. Thanks a lot bud.
Wingwalker84 said:
Ok. I tried Link2SD, but it said it was moving it to the SD card, but it moved it to the 1GB mount not to the /mnt/emmc where I have the 7.5GB of free space. I will try the apps2SD and see if that works. Thanks a lot bud.
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It maybe an issue how to CM roms mount the storage. I am not sure to be honest
zelendel said:
It maybe an issue how to CM roms mount the storage. I am not sure to be honest
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Ok, no worries. I will continue working on it. if I find anything out I will post back. Thanks for your help.
I figured it out...
If you have the "Use internal storage" checked under CyanogemMod Settings/Application CM7 will mount the SD card as mnt/emmc and create a 1GB partition and mount it as mnt/SDCard. If you un-check it and then reboot, the SD Card will be mounted as mnt/SDCard and the internal partition will be mnt/emmc, allowing you to use the whole SD Card for storing apps, while still being able to store the apps on the main internal partition. I am glad I figured that out, now I can load more apps, and use the swap file.
When I mount my phone, it gives me only my external SD card. But I want to mount my internet SD card. Because I want to flash cm9.
Anyone know how to mount internal SD?
JohnnyP.akaJP said:
When I mount my phone, it gives me only my external SD card. But I want to mount my internal SD card. Because I want to flash cm9.
Anyone know how to mount internal SD?
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MT4GS doesn't have any internal SD Card
Oh...Well My external SD card 1 was a FAT32 system. Couldnt mount on Clockworkmod, I used my SD card2 with FAT system and it worked(But ran out of space when backing up..). Tried using my SDcard1 and it couldnt create a path for nandroid. So basically my SDcard1 is corrupted :\
Queations to all....
Should a App2sd app be able to work on our Notes???
The reason im asking is because I had issues getting my 64g card to mount (ended up having to flash a recent OTA update from Samfirmware.com). I then wanted to move some of my apps to the 64g card but App 2 SD from the market says -
"The device does not have a real primary external storage, or the primary extremal storage is emulated. Moving app to SD may not be supported by this device. "
Is this normal? I have never come across this before on any Android device before! Or is it something to do with the 64g card? or the Notes file tree?
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Yes it's normal. Samsung make some different approach here.
In my perspective when you used to choose "move to sdcard" in apps manager, the apps move from internal memory to internal storage (/sdcard).
(External microSD card is not on discussion so far, im only talking about tablet internal storage).
Now by default in Samsung devices all apps are going to /sdcard, so you dont have to move them beacuse the are alreday there.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
The solution for me (I have white SGN 10.1 16GB) is use DirectoryBind, i can have 20+ GB of games in external microSD Card.
sammmurai said:
Yes it's normal. Samsung make some different approach here.
In my perspective when you used to choose "move to sdcard" in apps manager, the apps move from internal memory to internal storage (/sdcard).
(External microSD card is not on discussion so far, im only talking about tablet internal storage).
Now by default in Samsung devices all apps are going to /sdcard, so you dont have to move them beacuse the are alreday there.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
The solution for me (I have white SGN 10.1 16GB) is use DirectoryBind, i can have 20+ GB of games in external microSD Card.
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Think your correct, makes sense anyway!!!
Could you elaborate more on this directory Bind thing you mentioned? ??
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DirectoryBind main feature is to link/bind folders with data that are in external micro sd card, to empty folders with the same name that must be in /sdcard/Android/data or /sdcard/Android/obb. So games and apps thinks they're using internal storage but in fact data is in external micro sd card. This way you save the 11 gb reserved for storage.
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sammmurai said:
DirectoryBind main feature is to link/bind folders with data that are in external micro sd card, to empty folders with the same name that must be in /sdcard/Android/data or /sdcard/Android/obb. So games and apps thinks they're using internal storage but in fact data is in external micro sd card. This way you save the 11 gb reserved for storage.
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what happen if u update the app that u changed the directory?? will the app save to the new directory or internal?
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Hello, I have previously owned a Galaxy Ace which never had an internal SD storage and things were so much more simpler. Apps could be installed on removable SD. Apps were not confused when installing. I have realised that with this phone, when installing big games for example FIFA 12 or Need for Speed Most Wanted, it thinks that the internal SD storage is the removable SD card and won't download game data due to not having enough space. This 1.10GB worth of storage is totally useless and I would rather not have it for reasons of simplicity and just have a large removable SD card media instead. This 1.10GB internal storage space is insignificant when compared to 32GB removable SD Card and really is not worth the grief.
I have tried Link2SD to overcome this issue without any success as it moves the data files from the /data/data partition to the removable SD but not the Data which has been downloaded to Android/Data directory on the internal SD storage. Now I know that there are utilities (such as directory bind) which can swap the internal SD with the external SD. I also know that you can modify vold.fstab to do exactly the same. But I would rather not have this internal storage or if possible, have it extended to the internal data storage.instead.
Can someone please guide me on how to extend this irrelevant partion to data partition or have it removed entirely and just have a simple storage configuration like I did with the Galaxy Ace or older phones before all these large storages were introduced. Thanks in advance.
you need modified "vold.fstab"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2044439
No that just swaps the partitions. If you go to settings>storage the Removable SD card shows as USB storage and the internal SD is showing as SD Card. This is not what I want. Furthermore the fact that external SD is mounted in sdcard path is even more annoying and confusing at times.
What I am looking for is removeable SD card to be mounted as mnt/sdcard. And the internal SD card to be extended with some other internal partition such as data partition or just removed altogether. In simple terms I want the same file structure as my Galaxy Ace S5830.
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No that just swaps the partitions. If you go to settings>storage the Removable SD card shows as USB storage and the internal SD is showing as SD Card. This is not what I want. Furthermore the fact that external SD is mounted in sdcard path is even more annoying and confusing at times.
What I am looking for is removeable SD card to be mounted as mnt/sdcard. And the internal SD card to be extended with some other internal partition such as data partition or just removed altogether. In simple terms I want the same file structure as my Galaxy Ace S5830.
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If want the removable SD card to be mounted as mnt/sdcard then the vold.fstab could do the trick. You said you wanted to play games right? That's what I use to play Need for Speed Most Wanted on my phone. As for the "Internal Storage" or the 1.20 GB Partition, modifying it and adding or removing other partitions would require a .pit file which as far as i know is responsible for partitioning the phone and unfortunately we do not have. Does this answer your question?
It does answer my question although not the answer I wanted to hear. I used to think highly of Android when I used the Galaxy Ace as it did not have this issue due to not having a internal usable storage. But how on hell did Samsung decide to put a puny amount of storage space and mount it as sdcard. I feel sorry for the normal users who have never come across rooting and mods. I am sorry as much as I have love for Android phones, I think my next phone will be an Apple. Never thought I would be saying this but I am honestly tired of this stupid internal sd / external sd configuration. This has even put me off purchasing phones like the Galaxy S3 as you will still have this stupid configuration to get your head over. End of rant.
Is is possible to mount the removable SD card as /mnt/sdcard and the internal puny storage as /mnt/USB or any other name so as not to confuse it with SD Card. At the same time not having the storages swapped and in their right places when checked in settings>storage?
whats the problem with swapping them? I'm hardly annoyed by this kind if situation. if you are almost filling up the 1.20GB storage then you can move some of the apps to the 1.10GB "external_sd". Then to make sure you use the REAL sd card set the default installation path to be internal memory.
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Gizmotech said:
What I am looking for is removeable SD card to be mounted as mnt/sdcard.
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and I say again... if you change "vold.fstab" then you will have that you say above. I have /mnt/sdcard = 32gb and /mnt/sdcard/external_sd = 1.1gb
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and I say again... if you change "vold.fstab" then you will have that you say above. I have /mnt/sdcard = 32gb and /mnt/sdcard/external_sd = 1.1gb
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That is more of a workaround than a fix as swapping it loses the Unmount SD Card options for the removable media in settings>storage. The same with Directory Bind. They both do the trick but not quite the way I would have wanted it to do so.
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That is more of a workaround than a fix as swapping it loses the Unmount SD Card options for the removable media in settings>storage. The same with Directory Bind. They both do the trick but not quite the way I would have wanted it to do so.
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Then we cant do anything for that matter for now since there are no pit files available to repartition the phone.
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I was just thinking if there was a way of making a new directory on the /mnt path called 'storage' or something, we could have possibly modified vold.stab. So change where it says /sdcard to /storage and /sdcard/external_sd to /sdcard. I'm not sure if that would work but again, I don't think that another new directory can be created in /mnt without a .pit file.
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I was just thinking if there was a way of making a new directory on the /mnt path called 'storage' or something, we could have possibly modified vold.stab. So change where it says /sdcard to /storage and /sdcard/external_sd to /sdcard. I'm not sure if that would work but again, I don't think that another new directory can be created in /mnt without a .pit file.
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actually there are 3 mount points inside the vold.fstab file. 1) /mnt/sdcard 2)/mnt/external_sd 3)/mnt/usbstorage (i think, i forgot..)
the third is supposed to be used for USB OTG function but for now it remains undefined. I do not know anything about modifying this file so I guess I'll leave it to the experts, ask around and see what turns up.
I just checked the vold.fstab and I think the mount point is mnt/sdcard/external_sd and not mnt/external_sd if I am interpreting the data correctly.
Gizmotech said:
I just checked the vold.fstab and I think the mount point is mnt/sdcard/external_sd and not mnt/external_sd if I am interpreting the data correctly.
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Yeah youre right.. I guess working on my jelly bean theme made my brain forgetful.
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Is there any way to swap Internal SD to External SD for CM11?
mattiassulg said:
Is there any way to swap Internal SD to External SD for CM11?
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You might try Root External 2 Internal SD. Download it from PlayStore. I don't know whether it works for your device or not. Check it yourself.