Got problem to choose between s2 n nexus.. What phone do you prefer n why
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Got problem to choose between s2 n nexus.. What phone do you prefer n why
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Post this in Android General or Android Q&A Thread. You will get plenty of good answers there. This is a phone specific forum and you should not post here about any other phones.
Anyways, Nexus will be the best (I think). Stock android experience is what you will never forget about the nexus.
a short comparision bw Samsung galaxy s2(i9100 not i9100g) and galaxy nexus
CPU(both have dual core)
the s2 has Exynos(samsung's own cpu) 4210 @1.2 ghz (Semiconductor technology 45 nm)
the nexus has Texas Instruments(TI) OMAP4460 @ 1.2 ghz (Semiconductor technology 45 nm)
both run at 1.2 ghz but the nexus is undercloked to save battery , it can run at 1.5 ghz
alo omap 4 has better power management features to its architecture and ti open source
Exynos 4210 runs at 1.2ghz but it is overclocked to 1.4ghz in galaxy note
so OMAP4460 should be better( better for performance if you overclock , on stock they both run at 1.2ghz , so should perform similarly in most scenarios)
GPU (comparision of both s2 and nexus with current and q2-q3 2012 devices)
the s2 Has Mali 400 which is quad core and should be better
in the galaxy nexus we have PowerVR SGX540 @ 384 MHz (Single Core) the same gpu which was originally found in galaxy s (i9000 PowerVR SGX540 @ 200 MHz) but at really high clock to improve performance , it is very good cpu but is aging .. getting old in the era of ulp geforce(found in tegra 3 and tegra 2 which are cpu) and Adreno 225 and 320 [found in Krait i.e.. Snapdragon s4(28 nm)-which is better and more powerfull cpu that even tegra 3]
in the graphic performance mali 400 is better as it is quad core but SGX540 is also good , in many cases mali 400 performes better and in some cases SGX540 performes better , due to different architectures
Screen
s2 has HD Super AMOLED Plus and nexus has HD Super AMOLED
galaxy nexus smokes s2 with its hd screen 1280x720 but with Pentile matrix arrangement(trust me its not noticible)
s2 has normal wvga 800x480 resolution wihout Pentlie Matrix
nexus has 4.65 screen and i s bigger than s2's 4.3 to watch videos)
Both have good connectivity wifi,gps ,bluetooth 3.0 with hs,3g with high speeds
physical buttons
galaxy nexus has no physical buutons (i dont like this) and at present not all apps are configured to advantage of it and u can sometimes find it irritating
also in nexus you do not have an onscreen menu button , as apps will have itself menu onscreen touch button
for eg.while playing an old version game either the onscreen buttons of nexus will not hide and you will not be able to take full advantage of large screen, or the buttons will hide and not come back when you pause the game
note that many apps are updated and updating for use with galaxy nexus
s2 has home , menu and back buttons
RAM
both have 1gb ram(enough for good usage)
CAmera
definetly the 8mp camera for s2 is better, it somkes galaxy nexus's 5mp
in video recording , both do 1080p but i think so that s2 does 1080p and nexus does [email protected] , so s2 is better
nexus has 1.3mp front camera which can do 720p , s2 has 2mp front camera
Battery
totally a personal issue(both have 1,750 mAh)
sdcard
nexus does not have sd slot(pls confirm),s2 has sd slot
tv out
s2 has tv out and usb on the go , nexus has tv out(pls confirm)
Software
both have Ice cream sandwhich , and hopefully s2 will get android 5(jellybean), nexus should 100% get jellybean
also nexus will update faster with ics versions as it google flagship device
UI
very personal
i personally never like cold and dark holo ui of ics , cm9 found on galaxy nexus, i think it lacks brightness and vivid colors
on s2 you have touchwiz 4 with some modifications in ics , it is bright and beautifull and i like it
akashsgpgi said:
a short comparision bw Samsung galaxy s2(i9100 not i9100g) and galaxy nexus
CPU(both have dual core)
the s2 has Exynos(samsung's own cpu) 4210 @1.2 ghz (Semiconductor technology 45 nm)
the nexus has Texas Instruments(TI) OMAP4460 @ 1.2 ghz (Semiconductor technology 45 nm)
both run at 1.2 ghz but the nexus is undercloked to save battery , it can run at 1.5 ghz
alo omap 4 has better power management features to its architecture and ti open source
Exynos 4210 runs at 1.2ghz but it is overclocked to 1.4ghz in galaxy note
so OMAP4460 should be better
GPU (comparision of both s2 and nexus with current and q2-q3 2012 devices)
the s2 Has Mali 400 which is quad core and should be better
in the galaxy nexus we have PowerVR SGX540 @ 384 MHz (Single Core) the same gpu which was originally found in galaxy s (i9000 PowerVR SGX540 @ 200 MHz) but at really high clock to improve performance , it is very good cpu but is aging .. getting old in the era of ulp geforce(found in tegra 3 and tegra 2 which are cpu) and Adreno 225 and 320 [found in Krait i.e.. Snapdragon s4(28 nm)-which is better and more powerfull cpu that even tegra 3]
in the graphic performance mali 400 is better as it is quad core but SGX540 is also good , in many cases mali 400 performes better and in some cases SGX540 performes better , due to different architectures
Screen
s2 has HD Super AMOLED Plus and nexus has HD Super AMOLED
galaxy nexus smokes s2 with its hd screen 1280x720 but with Pentile matrix arrangement(trust me its not noticible)
s2 has normal wvga 800x480 resolution wihout Pentlie Matrix
nexus has 4.65 screen and i s bigger than s2's 4.3 to watch videos)
Both have good connectivity wifi,gps ,bluetooth 3.0 with hs,3g with high speeds
physical buttons
galaxy nexus has no physical buutons (i dont like this) and at present not all apps are configured to advantage of it and u can sometimes find it irritating
also in nexus you do not have an onscreen menu button , as apps will have itself menu onscreen touch button
for eg.while playing an old version game either the onscreen buttons of nexus will not hide and you will not be able to take full advantage of large screen, or the buttons will hide and not come back when you pause the game
note that many apps are updated and updating for use with galaxy nexus
s2 has home , menu and back buttons
RAM
both have 1gb ram(enough for good usage)
CAmera
definetly the 8mp camera for s2 is better, it somkes galaxy nexus's 5mp
in video recording , both do 1080p but i think so that s2 does 1080p and nexus does [email protected] , so s2 is better
nexus has 1.3mp front camera which can do 720p , s2 has 2mp front camera
Battery
totally a personal issue(both have 1,750 mAh)
sdcard
nexus does not have sd slot(pls confirm),s2 has sd slot
tv out
s2 has tv out and usb on the go , nexus has tv out(pls confirm)
Software
both have Ice cream sandwhich , and hopefully s2 will get android 5(jellybean), nexus should 100% get jellybean
also nexus will update faster with ics versions as it google flagship device
UI
very personal
i personally never like cold and dark holo ui of ics , cm9 found on galaxy nexus, i think it lacks brightness and vivid colors
on s2 you have touchwiz 4 with some modifications in ics , it is bright and beautifull and i like it
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Thanx a lot for the info u've given.. Btw, I read review about nexus batery were awful compared s2. Which is s2 of my frieds can last about over than 2 days
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akashsgpgi said:
a short comparision bw Samsung galaxy s2(i9100 not i9100g) and galaxy nexus
Battery
totally a personal issue(both have 1,750 mAh)
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Thanks for the comparison. But I read that S2 has 1650 mAh battery. Also I read that CPU of s2 is better than CPU of galaxy nexus
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Both are great phones... Your choice really depends in yourself... Before buying a new one... Reflect within yourself if it suites you right... You don't want to buy something that you would regret in the future.. Its best to get the full enjoyment from what you spent...
If you would ask me... I choose an SII... I wish I could upgrade my phone to SII like you... Before it runs out of trend that is....
SL development is quite strong these days (All thanks to dhiru)... Will stick to this phone for a while I think...
ALWAYS NEXUS !! nexus ftw man ! m telion u ! it'll even support the next android os jellybean cus of the HUUUGE dev support and fastest to receive google updates
go for s2
If you want to buy your phone now I'd choose the SGSII. I would wait for the SGSIII and parts of the other next gen phones.
akashsgpgi said:
a short comparision bw Samsung galaxy s2(i9100 not i9100g) and galaxy nexus
CPU(both have dual core)
the s2 has Exynos(samsung's own cpu) 4210 @1.2 ghz (Semiconductor technology 45 nm)
the nexus has Texas Instruments(TI) OMAP4460 @ 1.2 ghz (Semiconductor technology 45 nm)
both run at 1.2 ghz but the nexus is undercloked to save battery , it can run at 1.5 ghz
alo omap 4 has better power management features to its architecture and ti open source
Exynos 4210 runs at 1.2ghz but it is overclocked to 1.4ghz in galaxy note
so OMAP4460 should be better( better for performance if you overclock , on stock they both run at 1.2ghz , so should perform similarly in most scenarios)
GPU (comparision of both s2 and nexus with current and q2-q3 2012 devices)
the s2 Has Mali 400 which is quad core and should be better
in the galaxy nexus we have PowerVR SGX540 @ 384 MHz (Single Core) the same gpu which was originally found in galaxy s (i9000 PowerVR SGX540 @ 200 MHz) but at really high clock to improve performance , it is very good cpu but is aging .. getting old in the era of ulp geforce(found in tegra 3 and tegra 2 which are cpu) and Adreno 225 and 320 [found in Krait i.e.. Snapdragon s4(28 nm)-which is better and more powerfull cpu that even tegra 3]
in the graphic performance mali 400 is better as it is quad core but SGX540 is also good , in many cases mali 400 performes better and in some cases SGX540 performes better , due to different architectures
Screen
s2 has HD Super AMOLED Plus and nexus has HD Super AMOLED
galaxy nexus smokes s2 with its hd screen 1280x720 but with Pentile matrix arrangement(trust me its not noticible)
s2 has normal wvga 800x480 resolution wihout Pentlie Matrix
nexus has 4.65 screen and i s bigger than s2's 4.3 to watch videos)
Both have good connectivity wifi,gps ,bluetooth 3.0 with hs,3g with high speeds
physical buttons
galaxy nexus has no physical buutons (i dont like this) and at present not all apps are configured to advantage of it and u can sometimes find it irritating
also in nexus you do not have an onscreen menu button , as apps will have itself menu onscreen touch button
for eg.while playing an old version game either the onscreen buttons of nexus will not hide and you will not be able to take full advantage of large screen, or the buttons will hide and not come back when you pause the game
note that many apps are updated and updating for use with galaxy nexus
s2 has home , menu and back buttons
RAM
both have 1gb ram(enough for good usage)
CAmera
definetly the 8mp camera for s2 is better, it somkes galaxy nexus's 5mp
in video recording , both do 1080p but i think so that s2 does 1080p and nexus does [email protected] , so s2 is better
nexus has 1.3mp front camera which can do 720p , s2 has 2mp front camera
Battery
totally a personal issue(both have 1,750 mAh)
sdcard
nexus does not have sd slot(pls confirm),s2 has sd slot
tv out
s2 has tv out and usb on the go , nexus has tv out(pls confirm)
Software
both have Ice cream sandwhich , and hopefully s2 will get android 5(jellybean), nexus should 100% get jellybean
also nexus will update faster with ics versions as it google flagship device
UI
very personal
i personally never like cold and dark holo ui of ics , cm9 found on galaxy nexus, i think it lacks brightness and vivid colors
on s2 you have touchwiz 4 with some modifications in ics , it is bright and beautifull and i like it
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1. S2 has faster processor than nexus
2. S2 processor can be OC'd to 1.7ghz
3. S2 doesn't have HD Super Amoled plus instead it just has Super Amoled plus (480x800 is not HD)
4. S2 doesn't have a 1750mAh battery instead it has a 1650mAh battery.
Hope it clears some misinformation about the above statement
@OP:
Nexus: Better screen, surely updates comes faster from Google and the feel of pure AOSP (Of course S2 can have a similar feeling through cyanogenmod9)
S2: Better processing speed, camera, gpu, has external sd card etc.
Some people over the S2 forums have both phones and they prefer the S2 more. But it's really up to you mate. Read reviews about both phones and go for the one you like
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Personally i'd go for the S2 because of it's superior gaming performance. The S2 is better then the Nexus for gaming as it has a superior graphics chip, paired with a lower resolution screen on the S2. The lower resolution screen makes a difference in performance, in a good way
Actually I love s2 becoz of its hardware but I like gnex becoz of its design n update
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akashsgpgi said:
a short comparision bw Samsung galaxy s2(i9100 not i9100g) and galaxy nexus
CPU(both have dual core)
the s2 has Exynos(samsung's own cpu) 4210 @1.2 ghz (Semiconductor technology 45 nm)
the nexus has Texas Instruments(TI) OMAP4460 @ 1.2 ghz (Semiconductor technology 45 nm)
both run at 1.2 ghz but the nexus is undercloked to save battery , it can run at 1.5 ghz
alo omap 4 has better power management features to its architecture and ti open source
Exynos 4210 runs at 1.2ghz but it is overclocked to 1.4ghz in galaxy note
so OMAP4460 should be better( better for performance if you overclock , on stock they both run at 1.2ghz , so should perform similarly in most scenarios)
GPU (comparision of both s2 and nexus with current and q2-q3 2012 devices)
the s2 Has Mali 400 which is quad core and should be better
in the galaxy nexus we have PowerVR SGX540 @ 384 MHz (Single Core) the same gpu which was originally found in galaxy s (i9000 PowerVR SGX540 @ 200 MHz) but at really high clock to improve performance , it is very good cpu but is aging .. getting old in the era of ulp geforce(found in tegra 3 and tegra 2 which are cpu) and Adreno 225 and 320 [found in Krait i.e.. Snapdragon s4(28 nm)-which is better and more powerfull cpu that even tegra 3]
in the graphic performance mali 400 is better as it is quad core but SGX540 is also good , in many cases mali 400 performes better and in some cases SGX540 performes better , due to different architectures
Screen
s2 has HD Super AMOLED Plus and nexus has HD Super AMOLED
galaxy nexus smokes s2 with its hd screen 1280x720 but with Pentile matrix arrangement(trust me its not noticible)
s2 has normal wvga 800x480 resolution wihout Pentlie Matrix
nexus has 4.65 screen and i s bigger than s2's 4.3 to watch videos)
Both have good connectivity wifi,gps ,bluetooth 3.0 with hs,3g with high speeds
physical buttons
galaxy nexus has no physical buutons (i dont like this) and at present not all apps are configured to advantage of it and u can sometimes find it irritating
also in nexus you do not have an onscreen menu button , as apps will have itself menu onscreen touch button
for eg.while playing an old version game either the onscreen buttons of nexus will not hide and you will not be able to take full advantage of large screen, or the buttons will hide and not come back when you pause the game
note that many apps are updated and updating for use with galaxy nexus
s2 has home , menu and back buttons
RAM
both have 1gb ram(enough for good usage)
CAmera
definetly the 8mp camera for s2 is better, it somkes galaxy nexus's 5mp
in video recording , both do 1080p but i think so that s2 does 1080p and nexus does [email protected] , so s2 is better
nexus has 1.3mp front camera which can do 720p , s2 has 2mp front camera
Battery
totally a personal issue(both have 1,750 mAh)
sdcard
nexus does not have sd slot(pls confirm),s2 has sd slot
tv out
s2 has tv out and usb on the go , nexus has tv out(pls confirm)
Software
both have Ice cream sandwhich , and hopefully s2 will get android 5(jellybean), nexus should 100% get jellybean
also nexus will update faster with ics versions as it google flagship device
UI
very personal
i personally never like cold and dark holo ui of ics , cm9 found on galaxy nexus, i think it lacks brightness and vivid colors
on s2 you have touchwiz 4 with some modifications in ics , it is bright and beautifull and i like it
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Bro this is great.
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Why not get the Samsung Galaxy Note GT-N7000 instead? It has a Super Amoled HD screen that's 800x1280, same camera as GS2, same processor as GS2, and it's the thinnest between the Nexus and the GS2. I love this phone and honestly wouldn't give it up for any phone right now.
Isn't the Exynos more powerful than the OMAP 4460?
I Am Marino said:
Isn't the Exynos more powerful than the OMAP 4460?
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Yes.
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Right now Nexus simply wins because of the software..But things might change when the 3rd installment from the Galaxy S series arrives(a.k.a SGS3)..
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In the market for an upgrade, currently have a HTC Desire running CM7 and it's great, no lag in everyday use, OC'd to 1.1ghz, the only thing is that the graphics aren't great due to the outdated Adreno 200 GPU. I get higher Quadrant figures than my gf's Galaxy S but my phone is a joke in the graphics test compared to the samsung.
So for me the real limitation is the GPU and I want the best available product this time
The phones I had in mind (and in order of preference) are:
Samsung Galaxy S II (Mali-400 MP) (480x800)
HTC Evo 3D (Adreno 220) (540x960)
LG Optimus 3D (SGX 540) (480x800)
Motorola Atrix 4G (ULP GeForce) (540x960)
Anandtech benchmark on OC'd adreno 220, sgx 540 & geforce
Anandtech benchmark on mali-400 mp
Based partly on the benchmarks and lots and lots of forum/thread searching, my guess is Mali-400 MP > SGX 540 > Adreno 220 > GeForce ULP, is that about right?
What do you guys think is the best and what should I go for?
Extra Q.. is the SGX 543 expected in any android devices yet? Google brings up nothing
nop... wrong
SGX 543 = Adreno 220 >> Mali -400 >> Geforce ULP [tegra 2] >> SGX 540 >> Adreno 205 >> SGX 535 >> Adreno 200 = SGX 530
m nt sure but as per my knowledge Adreno 220 is more powerful which is going to release in Evo 3d and Sensation...
I m planning to buy Htc sensation soon....
EDIT :- Correction of mali-400 position..... [and even i am not sure about adreno 220 ]
[even my xperia runs on adreno 200 ..... cravin for good gpu too]
neelpatel007 said:
Adreno 220 >> Geforce ULP [tegra 2] >> SGX 540 = Mali -400 >> Adreno 205 >> SGX 535 >> Adreno 200 = SGX 530
m nt sure but as per my knowledge Adreno 220 is more powerful which is going to release in Evo 3d and Sensation...
I m planning to buy Htc sensation soon....
[even my xperia runs on adreno 200 ..... cravin for good gpu too]
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Yep,that's about right.I have a Desire HD and am going to buy the Sensation when it hits the market.
One a couple of things though.First,he SGX 540 in the LG Optimus 2X is an overclocked version of the one in the Galaxy S.Second,by looking at these benchmarks it's unfair for the Geforce and the Adreno 220,because the Atrix and Evo 3D/Sensation have a resolution of 960x540 as opposed to 800x480 of the others,as is written in the OP.That is 35% more pixels which makes things harder for the GPU.
sorry for the question but what does gpu do?
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sorry for the question but what does gpu do?
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Accelerates graphics and lets you play games smoothly (Graphics Processing Unit). Unless you're an avid mobile gamer, any of the newer ones are just fine.
But why would Samsung switch from the SGX540 used in the Galaxy S to the Mali-400 MP in Galaxy S2 if it wasn't better. I know comparing qHD screens to the WVGA screens is slightly unfair but I've heard the Galaxy S2's S-AMOLED+ display is one of the best on the market.
In addition, why would Samsung use the Exynos SoC as opposed to the Tegra2 if it weren't as good
the optimus 3d beats the optimus 2x in the benchmarks so i think it's fair to say sgx540 is better than tegra/geforce
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But why would Samsung switch from the SGX540 used in the Galaxy S to the Mali-400 MP in Galaxy S2 if it wasn't better. I know comparing qHD screens to the WVGA screens is slightly unfair but I've heard the Galaxy S2's S-AMOLED+ display is one of the best on the market.
In addition, why would Samsung use the Exynos SoC as opposed to the Tegra2 if it weren't as good
the optimus 3d beats the optimus 2x in the benchmarks so i think it's fair to say sgx540 is better than tegra/geforce
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That's exactly my point,Samsung didn't change to a worse GPU.The Optimus 3D uses an overclocked version of the SGX540.I think that,if they were running at the same frequencies,the Mali would outperform it,but we can't be sure.
Bottom line?If you want hardcore gaming,go for either Adreno 220 or Geforce ULP.The others are just fine.
Remember benchmarks arent everything, and samsung is uping to 1.2ghz each core. Anyways I like htc so ill stick to mytouches and htc so mytouch 4g slide for me
http://pocketnow.com/android/t-mobile-mytouch-4g-slide-htc-doubleshot-full-specs
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tolis626 said:
That's exactly my point,Samsung didn't change to a worse GPU.The Optimus 3D uses an overclocked version of the SGX540.I think that,if they were running at the same frequencies,the Mali would outperform it,but we can't be sure.
Bottom line?If you want hardcore gaming,go for either Adreno 220 or Geforce ULP.The others are just fine.
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Hey, yeah I looked into this and the Optimus 3D uses SGX540 @ 300mhz with an updated driver compare to the SGS @ 200 mhz
Guess I'm just gonna have to wait until a few more benchmarks emerge of the Mali as anandtech's were using a prototype device.
Wow, They're fast. The 220 hitting 90fps when my Z only gets 25
viva.fidel said:
Hey, yeah I looked into this and the Optimus 3D uses SGX540 @ 300mhz with an updated driver compare to the SGS @ 200 mhz
Guess I'm just gonna have to wait until a few more benchmarks emerge of the Mali as anandtech's were using a prototype device.
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See?Told 'ya!
Anyway,I tend to believe that the new generations strongest beast(They are all beasts after all)is the Adreno 220.Couple it with the fact that the GPU gets overclocked together with the CPU(Integrated),if you overclock it at a healthy frequency(1.8GHz anyone? Yeah,I'm THAT mad!)you will get dreamy performance.
Anyway,the Sensation's benchmarks are just from prototypes,so we have yet to see its true potential.
Sure thing is they are all very damn fast,and everything will be even faster when multi-core optimized apps hit the market.Until then we can only sit back and enjoy the show.I for one am torn between the Galaxy S 2 and the Sensation.Which one I'll get?Dunno yet.If it wasn't for the Super Amoled + screen I wouldn't even be thinking about it,but the screen on those things is damn beautiful.On the other hand,the Sensation has qHD screen...Why,oh why are they so expensive?I'd get both otherwise!
tolis626 said:
See?Told 'ya!
Anyway,I tend to believe that the new generations strongest beast(They are all beasts after all)is the Adreno 220.Couple it with the fact that the GPU gets overclocked together with the CPU(Integrated),if you overclock it at a healthy frequency(1.8GHz anyone? Yeah,I'm THAT mad!)you will get dreamy performance.
Anyway,the Sensation's benchmarks are just from prototypes,so we have yet to see its true potential.
Sure thing is they are all very damn fast,and everything will be even faster when multi-core optimized apps hit the market.Until then we can only sit back and enjoy the show.I for one am torn between the Galaxy S 2 and the Sensation.Which one I'll get?Dunno yet.If it wasn't for the Super Amoled + screen I wouldn't even be thinking about it,but the screen on those things is damn beautiful.On the other hand,the Sensation has qHD screen...Why,oh why are they so expensive?I'd get both otherwise!
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As a DesireHD owner myself, im on the same boat as you my friend. My only gripe with the sgs2 is the non qhd res screen and comparatively weak gpu, especially how their last gen sgs gpu was miles ahead of everyone else. There's also the option to get the tegra2 powered sgs2, but i think that one does not have samoled+ display, also im not sure if the tegra2 unit will be OC'd to 1.2. Im seriously considering now the evo 3d gsm, but not only does it have no built in memory but its coming out later and sgs 2 is already out.
Benchmark: Mali 400 (Samsung S II) > Adreno 220 (HTC Sensation)
"Smartbench 2011 is one of the few synthetic benchmark tests that are able to measure multicore performance, so these results are for both CPU cores at work. The Samsung Galaxy S II steadily beats the HTC Pyramid in both the productivity (3732 vs 1898 points), and GPU tests (2431 vs 1426 points)."
But it also notes:
"Bear in mind that the Galaxy S II that the test was run on, seems to be the final version, with the 1.2GHz Exynos chipset, and the HTC Pyramid was the internal name of the HTC Sensation when it was still a prototype, so we’ll wait for the retail version to pass judgement on the 1.2Ghz Snapdragon chipset inside."
Mali seems to be doing pretty damn good.
http://www.glbenchmark.com/phonedet...2&testgroup=overall&benchmark=glpro20&var=top
And what matters is real life performance. See any vid of the galaxy s 2 and its buttery smooth, even while playing hd flash in the browser.
tolis626 said:
See?Told 'ya!
Anyway,I tend to believe that the new generations strongest beast(They are all beasts after all)is the Adreno 220.Couple it with the fact that the GPU gets overclocked together with the CPU(Integrated),if you overclock it at a healthy frequency(1.8GHz anyone? Yeah,I'm THAT mad!)you will get dreamy performance.
Anyway,the Sensation's benchmarks are just from prototypes,so we have yet to see its true potential.
Sure thing is they are all very damn fast,and everything will be even faster when multi-core optimized apps hit the market.Until then we can only sit back and enjoy the show.I for one am torn between the Galaxy S 2 and the Sensation.Which one I'll get?Dunno yet.If it wasn't for the Super Amoled + screen I wouldn't even be thinking about it,but the screen on those things is damn beautiful.On the other hand,the Sensation has qHD screen...Why,oh why are they so expensive?I'd get both otherwise!
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The qHD display isn't really that much sharper than the Super Amoled Plus display, but it decreases performance.
And the Super Amoled also has: Better colors, totally black (also saves power), 1ms response (good when you watch movies), 180 degree, viewing angle, and responds better you your touches.
Did I mention that it was thin?
Also the Exynos Chip is stronger.
I belive that the CPU is customized by Intrisity, but I can't confirm that.
And the Mali-400MP will probably get better drivers. (not that it would lag anyway )
Galaxy S 2 is also thinner.
I think it's the best choice.
HTC Sensation is awesome, but Galaxy S 2 is the best phone on the market.
But on one final note: I recommend that you wait for the Nexus 3 that comes around Christmas.
It's rumored to have the Tegra 3 chip inside (quad-core).
tolis626 said:
On the other hand,the Sensation has qHD screen...
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But PenTile Display...
Since I know this the Sensation was also one candidate for me along with the S2.
But now the S2 will be my next phone after my desire, I guess.
Hi
Even I changed my mind from HTC sensation to SGS2 .... after watching such a low benchmark performance of HTC sensation see it here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RHziztN2gs
And after watching the superb clearity of SuperAMOLED display , against HTC's blurry screen ,,,,,... m in love with SGS2......
See it here... http://www.youtube.com/user/SlashGear?ob=5#p/u/0/p3axSZX1R_s
I dont know what that HTC people did with Adreno 220 n i have no clue why it's benchmarks are low......
So all time Sensation lover has now moved to SGS2 .... SGS2 rocks....
See the FPS in the second video , SGS2 is far better in 2D n 3D performance too..... HTC s**ckin big time.... big disappointment....
mali 400 < sgx 540 < ulp < adreno 220
mali is best but problem is some games are only compatible with tegra's ULP
any pc modder knows resolution is a huge tax on graphics. benchmarks dont mean much at different resolutions, not to mention frame rate caps. mali might have a slight edge on adreno in a fair test, but not enough to swing a decision i dont think. screen and build quality will be the biggest variance. imo htc wins build quality, and higher res screen is better for text/browsing. Samsung's lower res (and crazy good looking) screen will always lead to higher frame rates, so they win for games/ vids. Ill be getting the sensation the day its released (work for tmob, decision was kinda made for me)
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any pc modder knows resolution is a huge tax on graphics. benchmarks dont mean much at different resolutions, not to mention frame rate caps. mali might have a slight edge on adreno in a fair test, but not enough to swing a decision i dont think. screen and build quality will be the biggest variance. imo htc wins build quality, and higher res screen is better for text/browsing. Samsung's lower res (and crazy good looking) screen will always lead to higher frame rates, so they win for games/ vids. Ill be getting the sensation the day its released (work for tmob, decision was kinda made for me)
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can you give details on the mytouch 4g slide?
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Samsung have the luxury of making their own chips and they are quick to put out new and better versions of them. The Exynos chipset, which debuted with the Samsung Galaxy S II at a 'mere' 1.2GHz is getting a 1.5GHz version, called the Exynos 4212.
Samsung also has a pair of high-end mobile cameras headed for the production line. One is a 16MP main shooter with a back illuminated sensor for better low-light performance (expected to ship in November) and the other is a 1.2MP module with [email protected] capture capabilities for front-facing cameras.
We can't quite make out the Google-translated press release but it seems the front facing camera will have 1/8.2 sensor (that sounds pretty small, but we'll see) and the ISO of the main shooter goes up to 1,600.
Going back to Exynos, it's built using the 32nm process and was designed with 3D performance in mind. Gameloft is apparently showing interest and will offer several titles to put the new SoC to good work.
The Korea-bound Galaxy S II LTE and Galaxy S II HD LTE will sport Exynos chipsets with the CPU clocked at 1.5GHz, which makes them the most likely candidates for being the first phones with the new chipset.
Samsung already has a 1.4GHz version of Exynos that's powering the Galaxy Note and the Galaxy Tab 7.7, but there's no info what kind of change in performance we can expect in the 3D department (beyond the obvious gain from the faster clock speed).
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http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_announces_15ghz_exynos_chipset_16mp_camera-news-3200.php
FWAP FWAP FWAP at the highlighted bits. One thing Samsung is perfectly good at making is chips.
I think this might mean I'll give the Nexus Prime a miss and wait for the Galaxy S III. Probably jizz in my pants when I hold it.
Should be epic, loving the Samsung processors. iPhone5 should be feeling scared. Hopefully ICS will be a hit as well.
Let's see what Apple can do and whether it tempts away current galaxy users.
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http://pocketnow.com/android/samsung-unveils-new-dual-core-exynos-4212-processor
50% increase in 3D performance. Something to rival the A5 perhaps?
I hope they put this in the Galaxy Note.
Killer Bee said:
http://pocketnow.com/android/samsung-unveils-new-dual-core-exynos-4212-processor
50% increase in 3D performance. Something to rival the A5 perhaps?
I hope they put this in the Galaxy Note.
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The SGX 543mp2 is a lot faster than 50% compared to the Mali400. Really hoping for Kal-El in the SGS3.
Killer Bee said:
http://pocketnow.com/android/samsung-unveils-new-dual-core-exynos-4212-processor
50% increase in 3D performance. Something to rival the A5 perhaps?
I hope they put this in the Galaxy Note.
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Something to crash the A5 for sure.The Galaxy S II's Exynos 4210 rivals the A5.
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The SGX 543mp2 is a lot faster than 50% compared to the Mali400. Really hoping for Kal-El in the SGS3.
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W-wa-wait.What?****in' ****.Where did you see this?Go check the Anandtech review.It shows the high-end mobile GPUs' performance in cold numbers and shows technical specs clearly.The 543MP2 might be 50% faster than the Adreno 220,not the Mali MP-400.
Killer Bee said:
http://pocketnow.com/android/samsung-unveils-new-dual-core-exynos-4212-processor
50% increase in 3D performance. Something to rival the A5 perhaps?
I hope they put this in the Galaxy Note.
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I believe this is a simple die shrink from 45 to 32nm. So it still has the Mali-400 GPU but clocked at 400MHz instead of 267MHz (i e 50% clock increase). The very subtle name change from Exynos 4210 to Exynos 4212 almost confirms this.
Until the Mali-400 can compete with the SGX543MP2 in GLBenchmark at the same resolution, I'm going to wait for a Kal-El phone.
tolis626 said:
Something to crash the A5 for sure.The Galaxy S II's Exynos 4210 rivals the A5.
W-wa-wait.What?****in' ****.Where did you see this?Go check the Anandtech review.It shows the high-end mobile GPUs' performance in cold numbers and shows technical specs clearly.The 543MP2 might be 50% faster than the Adreno 220,not the Mali MP-400.
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http://www.anandtech.com/show/4686/samsung-galaxy-s-2-international-review-the-best-redefined/17
Check the GLBenchmark numbers again; the SGX 543mp2 is over 100% faster than the Mali mp-400.
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Check the GLBenchmark numbers again; the SGX 543mp2 is over 100% faster than the Mali mp-400.
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And it's driving over twice the resolution. The GPU in the iPhone 5 is going to blow away the competition, as it's at a lower resolution compared to the iPad 2. I'm actually kind of jealous. I refuse to use a device with a lower performing GPU than an Apple product! Hope the GPU in the Kal-El will actually be competitive.
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And it's driving over twice the resolution. The GPU in the iPhone 5 is going to blow away the competition, as it's at a lower resolution compared to the iPad 2. I'm actually kind of jealous. I refuse to use a device with a lower performing GPU than an Apple product! Hope the GPU in the Kal-El will actually be competitive.
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No it is not; both were running the benchmarks at 1280x720. Kal-El is a lot faster than both the Mali MP-400 and SGX 543mp2 while having a lot more features let alone having five cores.
"GLBenchmark 2.1 now includes the ability to render the test offscreen at a resolution of 1280 x 720. This is not as desirable as being able to set custom resolutions since it's a bit too high for smartphones but it's better than nothing." Anandtech
EDIT: Apple might decide to cut back the A5 running inside the iPhone 5 to just one 543, or a lower clocked version, as having two doesn't really make any sense on a mobile phone at least when battery life is taken into consideration.
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I believe this is a simple die shrink from 45 to 32nm. So it still has the Mali-400 GPU but clocked at 400MHz instead of 267MHz (i e 50% clock increase). The very subtle name change from Exynos 4210 to Exynos 4212 almost confirms this.
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This sounds plausible.
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And it's driving over twice the resolution. The GPU in the iPhone 5 is going to blow away the competition, as it's at a lower resolution compared to the iPad 2. I'm actually kind of jealous. I refuse to use a device with a lower performing GPU than an Apple product! Hope the GPU in the Kal-El will actually be competitive.
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There is a developer tablet called ODROID-A that uses the Exynos 4210 SoC and it benches pretty well with an even higher resolution than the iPad 2 (1366x768 vs 1024x768).
Comparison for reference.
With a 50% increase, the Mali-400 (assuming they keep this GPU) will be comparable to the SGX-543MP2.
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http://www.anandtech.com/show/4686/samsung-galaxy-s-2-international-review-the-best-redefined/17
Check the GLBenchmark numbers again; the SGX 543mp2 is over 100% faster than the Mali mp-400.
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Well,for all I know,the CPU in the iPad 2 is larger(The chip itself is larger),which instantly translates in more transistors being placed in the same space.I can only suspect that same goes for the GPU.But even if it does not,it's most likely that the version in the iPhone 5/4s/whatever won't be the same.Will it be underclocked?Smaller?I don't know.
By the way,I personally believe manufacturers **** all over their tablets when they put phone SoC's in them.There should be a different,more powerful(albeit more power-hungry) variant of each SoC for tablets.But that's just me.
As for the iPhone part,don't mistake me as a hater(I hate it btw,but I won't flame it or anything.If it's better than what I have,I'll just admit it.It's not the hardware I hate).In fact I wish it's THAT powerful,so that the competition will drive performance up for everyone.And that,for us,is a win.
Are there any smaller android (let's say around 3 inches or comparable to an iphone 4 (eck I know)) out there?
Nothing on the low end but a small phone such as the Samsung transform ultra or HTC wildfire s that has a decent screen size and a dual core CPU with atleast 512+ RAM out there?
I'm kind of disappointed with the whole trend of phones becoming bigger and bigger. It tends to be less attractive to me.
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Xperia ray sports a high res 3.2" screen, 8mp camera, 1ghz scorpion (single core, but snappy), Andreno 205 GPU, and 512mb of ram. It's also getting ICS.
Hi guys, I'm currently torn between a few phones,
can you help me?
My budget is up to 300 euros (MAX), I can purchase the phone from either Netherlands or Germany, does anyone know any good shops there btw?
Anyway,
My question is which is better, the LG Optimus 2X (299 Euro), Xperia Sola (279 Euro) or Xperia Arc S (279 Euro)
I'm pretty much looking for the best gaming performance, the LG has Tegra2, the Sola has Mali-400MP 1 Core, and the Arc S has Adreno 205,
There is no comparison between these GPUs, I've searched for hours, and also there's no comparison of the Mali-400 single core to quad core variant anywhere!
Also, there's no definitive comparison between a Dual Core 1GHZ Cortex A9 to a single core 1.4GHZ Snapdragon Scorpion CPU!
This is what I've got so far, only the stuff I care about in the phone (for example, I don't care about the camera or whether its TFT or AMOLED).
1. LG Optimus 2X
-Dual core 1.0ghz and Tegra2 Seems to be the best. (Good)
-4.0" Screen (Good)
-Battery performance seems to be in the gutter ~1500mAh. (Bad)
-More Expensive
2. Xperia Sola
-Dual core and Mali-400MP1 (Good or bad?)
-Battery built into phone, can't replace it or get a replacement battery, 1320mAh. (Bad)
-3.7" Screen (Average)
-Coolness factor - Hover touch and cool Tags, NFC Capable
3. Arc S
-Single Core 1.4GHZ (Good or bad?)
-Adreno 205 (Good or bad?)
-4.2" Screen (Good)
-Average Battery life
Thanks in advance!!!
I would go with the LG Optimus 2X. But, I'm no expert. I would be interested in what others think.
I would completely eliminate the xperia arc S b/c it is a single core and that it has an outdated adreno 205 gpu. That means you will get lag and not be very optimal for gaming.
That said, the top gpu in your choices is most definitely the Mali 400 in the Xperia Sola. It is better than the Tegra 2 in almost all aspects. Tegra 2 also has one major drawback and that it does not have NEON support. NEON is basically a video optimization software built into the gpu, but Tegra does not have it, so some video formats cannot play properly or not at all.
As for comparisons, here is one: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4686/samsung-galaxy-s-2-international-review-the-best-redefined/16
The Tegra 2 is labeled as the ULP GeForce and you will see that the Mali 400 blows it out of the water.
Also on a side note, there are many hardware problems with the LG Optimus 2X, like random reboots or bad signal, so overall, in terms of build quality, cpu and graphics, go for a xperia sola.
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I would completely eliminate the xperia arc S b/c it is a single core and that it has an outdated adreno 205 gpu. That means you will get lag and not be very optimal for gaming.
That said, the top gpu in your choices is most definitely the Mali 400 in the Xperia Sola. It is better than the Tegra 2 in almost all aspects. Tegra 2 also has one major drawback and that it does not have NEON support. NEON is basically a video optimization software built into the gpu, but Tegra does not have it, so some video formats cannot play properly or not at all.
As for comparisons, here is one: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4686/samsung-galaxy-s-2-international-review-the-best-redefined/16
The Tegra 2 is labeled as the ULP GeForce and you will see that the Mali 400 blows it out of the water.
Also on a side note, there are many hardware problems with the LG Optimus 2X, like random reboots or bad signal, so overall, in terms of build quality, cpu and graphics, go for a xperia sola.
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I was basing my recommendation on the Mali GPU in the Galaxy S2: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4177/samsungs-galaxy-s-ii-preliminary-performance-mali400-benchmarked.
Also, this article suggests the Tegra 2 is better: http://www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-mali-400mp-gpu-and-vs-tegra-2/.
But, as I said, I know very little about these GPUs and phones.
Python. said:
I was basing my recommendation on the Mali GPU in the Galaxy S2: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4177/samsungs-galaxy-s-ii-preliminary-performance-mali400-benchmarked.
Also, this article suggests the Tegra 2 is better: http://www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-mali-400mp-gpu-and-vs-tegra-2/.
But, as I said, I know very little about these GPUs and phones.
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Well, most articles favor Mali 400 MP. Both are strong gpu's, but the lack of NEON video optimization is a deal breaker.
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Well, most articles favor Mali 400 MP. Both are strong gpu's, but the lack of NEON video optimization is a deal breaker.
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The Mali is a good gpu but you should know that the sola has a Mali 400 mp1
that means it's singlecore but the gpu of the s2 is the Mali 400mp4 it's the quadcore version:banghead:
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oh yeah, you're right, that is a Mali 400 MP1. I wasn't aware of that. That really sucks then.
If thats the case, then go with the LG Optimus 2X. The Tegra 2 has a 8 core gpu. That's definitely better than a single core gpu anyday.
Sorry for the confusion.
Galaxy s3
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Galaxy s3
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The Galaxy S3, although a great phone, is 500 euros which is far beyond the OP's budget.
Since you'll be gaming, the most powerful gpu and the longest battery life matter most. LG wins both counts.Get the LG,flash a barebones ROM that frees up ram and increases battery life,and game away.
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LG released a fix for the restarting bug I found on the net.
It plays H264 MKV files no? are the missing codecs that much of a problem?
Thanks for the help guys!!
But just last thing, 1.4GHZ single core VS 1.0GHZ dual core = dual core winner?
Mali-400MP 1 Core VS Adreno 205 = Mali winner?
opala said:
LG released a fix for the restarting bug I found on the net.
It plays H264 MKV files no? are the missing codecs that much of a problem?
Thanks for the help guys!!
But just last thing, 1.4GHZ single core VS 1.0GHZ dual core = dual core winner?
Mali-400MP 1 Core VS Adreno 205 = Mali winner?
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Arc S > Sola in all areas.
Mali 400mp1 < adreno 205 it's just that adreno is aging.
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This is just for future reference, if better hardware aren't out at better prices already. Which is better? I don't really care about how "pure" the OS is, as I can just flash ROMs on any of them.
I'm most concerned with:
CPU: Qualcomm APQ8060 @ 1.5GHz vs. TI OMAP 4460 @ 1.2GHz
GPU: Qualcomm Adreno 220 vs. PowerVR SGX540
dennis96411 said:
This is just for future reference, if better hardware aren't out at better prices already. Which is better? I don't really care about how "pure" the OS is, as I can just flash ROMs on any of them.
I'm most concerned with:
CPU: Qualcomm APQ8060 @ 1.5GHz vs. TI OMAP 4460 @ 1.2GHz
GPU: Qualcomm Adreno 220 vs. PowerVR SGX540
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Good question. I narrowed down my choices to these 2 phones.
zener773 said:
Good question. I narrowed down my choices to these 2 phones.
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Since both have the same chipset, cpu and gpu I'd look at other features.
The display specs shows a slight advantage of the Nexus:
SII Display
Type: Super AMOLED Plus capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Size: 480 x 800 pixels, 4.52 inches (~206 ppi pixel density)
Galaxy Nexus
Type: Super AMOLED capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Size: 720 x 1280 pixels, 4.65 inches (~316 ppi pixel density)
However, the Nexus does not offer external storage.
For me it is a deal breaker.
If for you it is not important - then the Nexus has the upper hand.
I'll choose nexus. Its not a big gap in processor and gpu i think
I already chose the SII, I have it right now.
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formula44 said:
I'll choose nexus. Its not a big gap in processor and gpu i think
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Excuse my ignorance, but does the T989 have a significant (definitive) performance edge over the GNEX??? That changes everything for me. Now if we can only get a Jellybean update.