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Okay so I’m purchasing a phone, and I’m stuck between the HTC Desire and the Nexus One. They both are very similar yet so different and it’s making my decision very hard. So hard in fact, I’ve between contemplating this decision for about two weeks. So, below are the pros and cons for me of both phones and their importance in my life. I know I should go with what seems the best overall, but I want opinions from people that have owned the phone and have actually used them on a daily basis. I really don’t want to make the wrong decision because I’ve gone through 5 phones in the past 4 months because I wasn’t satisfied.
HTC DESIRE PROS
High Priority:
-Overall design is very attractive in my opinion
Medium Priority:
-HTC Sense
-64 MB more RAM than the Nexus One
-Comes in several colors (Black, Silver, Brown)
-Hardware Keys
-Optical Track Pad
-Chin
Low Priority:
-About $75-100 cheaper than the Nexus one for me.
NEXUS ONE PROS
High Priority:
-Back cover easy to take on/off
-More support from case makers
-Faster updates and most likely a future past Froyo
Medium Priority:
-AT&T 3G (my carrier)
-Will arrive quicker
Low Priority:
-Trackball colors
-Speech to text
HTC DESIRE CONS:
High Priority:
-Questionable whether it will receive updates past Froyo
-Slower updates
-Back cover I hear is hard to take off
-Barely any support from case makers (I’m a case-mate and Otter box fanatic)
Low Priority:
-No AT&T 3G
NEXUS ONE CONS:
Medium Priority:
-No HTC Sense
Low Priority:
-More expensive
-Trackball not track pad
If you can suggest my another AT&T 3G Android phone that's better than above be my guest.
You should consider the Xperia X10, it should fit well with your highest priority. The only thing it doesn't have is multi-touch, but that's something you can get over with.
It looks better, imo, and now since it's rooted, it is capable of getting Froyo.
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Xperia X10a supports AT&T 3G.
Also, you can load HTC Sense on the Nexus One through flashing a custom rom.
I think you would like the Nexus one better. A very big reason being the 3G. Im not sure where you live but edge is TERRIBLE where i live. Its not even worth having. As the guy above me stated you can get sense on the N1 by flashing Modaco desire rom.
I owned both and the only thing I did not like about the Desire is...lack of accessories
Now before you start saying "You live in the dark ages"...hear me out. I tried the Desire on both T-Mobile and AT&T. The speed I got on EDGE with AT&T was very fast, if not the same speed as using my N1 & iPhone 3GS. 3G might be nice, but it is a major drain on the battery. EDGE speed can be pretty reasonable if you live in an area that has good AT&T network bands. If you can catch Wifi, even better.
Speaking of hardware and build, I prefer hard buttons over the capacitive buttons of the Nexus. For some reason, even if I pressed directly on the button...it would not respond. I realized that you had to press a little above the button for it to respond. Also, the Desire has a Hero-like chin that contours to your hand and makes handling the phone a little easier. The battery cover on the Desire has a rubbery coating that gives it a sticky grip.
As far as removing the back battery-cover, it is really simple. The battery cover for the Nexus didn't feel secure like the Desire's did. Granted you have to use a finger nail to pry it off, the back cover for the Desire actually felt more secure once "snapped" into place.
Software wise, The N1 can be flashed with a Desire Rom to look like the Desire. The Desire can be loaded with a Home/Launcher alternative or flashed with a "sense-less" Rom so the decision is personal preference. From now on I am going with nothing but Sense. Some people complain that it is nothing but "bloated" software that slows the phone down. After owning the MT3G, N1 and Desire...Sense UI just looks nicer and integrates better with apps and widgets. I wouldn't be so worried about OTA updates. The good thing about using Android phones is that when updates do come out, developers here and at other forums will be quick to adapt them to Roms that are compatible with our phones.
I never tried the Xperia X10. If I had the cash and was still on a GSM network, I would have probably tried it. All I can do is just give my opinion on the Nexus and Desire
Thanks. I'm leaning towars the desire more. If I did get either I wouldn't flash a custom rom on them. Most likely only root. Another question, when you turn sense off on the desire, does it have that sliding drawer or the same launcher as the nexus?
I do not think you can disable Sense on the Desire. If I am correct, with the EVO you can disable it (or were able to until the update came out yesterday).
However, your best bet would be to check out the Desire section here and see if any progress has been made as far as disabling the UI.
If you are determined to use something other then Sense, you can look into one of the Home/Launcher alternatives that are on the market
I don't know how it is where you come from but here in PA (USA) the difference between EDGE and 3g is HUGE. I get around 75kbps on EDGE and well over 1000kbps on 3g. 3g is easily 10x faster then EDGE. That alone is reason enough to get a phone that supports your carriers 3g.
And lets be honest the two phones are so close that that you will most likely be happy with either so why not get the one that gives you 3g?
Its not out in the US for a week or two but i would go for the Dell Streak is more of a small android tablet and the bonus is its a phone as well,but every one have there own ideas so its up to you buddy
iphonehua said:
Software wise, The N1 can be flashed with a Desire Rom to look like the Desire. The Desire can be loaded with a Home/Launcher alternative or flashed with a "sense-less" Rom so the decision is personal preference. From now on I am going with nothing but Sense. Some people complain that it is nothing but "bloated" software that slows the phone down.
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Um yea...sounds sort of familiar
Don't get the nexus one, I had it for awhile. The Major problem with it is the touch sensitivity buttons. There are really annoying you have to press them at the right way or they will not work. So, I would say go with desire if 3G isn't a problem.
htc fan89 said:
Don't get the nexus one, I had it for awhile. The Major problem with it is the touch sensitivity buttons. There are really annoying you have to press them at the right way or they will not work. So, I would say go with desire if 3G isn't a problem.
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This was one of the problems I had. Trust me, I wasn't a first-batch buyer either. I waited it out a few months, so the unit I had was in excellent condition.
Hey guys, my first thread here.
I live in Canada, so I don't get much of smartphone selections up here.
Here's several phone that I think I will like, and I want you guys to help me decide.
Phones I think I would like, and some basic understanding from me of the pros and cons(I love the HTC Droid Incredible the best, too bad we dont have it up here :[ ):
HTC Desire
Pro:
Sense UI
No Cons
Galaxy S Vibrant [This actually should be a i9000, they call it vibrant up here]
Pro:
Super AMOLED Screen (Although I know that the iPhone 4 screen is brighter)
4" Display
Cons:
Lagging Issues
No Flash on camera
a lot of little software issues
Plasticy(a case or skin can cover that)
UPDATE: Galaxy S Captivate is coming to us this September, Same Pros and Cons except it doesnt have as much software issues?
iPhone 4
Pros:
Better Music Player
Great Support (Obviously a very popular phone)
Definitly a lot of better apps, for now
Cons:
No Adobe Flash
Blocking Signals, although I know from friends that it is not a big issue at all
if you got a good point that another phone might be better, i might change my mind
iphone, generally garbage, if you have any self respect dont get it
Sense UI sucks, everyone with a good phone like that flashes cyanogen or something like that
and galaxy S feels plasticky
Sler said:
Hey guys, my first thread here.
I live in Canada, so I don't get much of smartphone selections up here.
Here's several phone that I think I will like, and I want you guys to help me decide.
Phones I think I would like, and some basic understanding from me of the pros and cons(I love the HTC Droid Incredible the best, too bad we dont have it up here :[ ):
HTC Desire
Pro:
Sense UI
No Cons
Galaxy S Vibrant [This actually should be a i9000, they call it vibrant up here]
Pro:
Super AMOLED Screen (Although I know that the iPhone 4 screen is brighter)
4" Display
Cons:
Lagging Issues
No Flash on camera
a lot of little software issues
Plasticy(a case or skin can cover that)
UPDATE: Galaxy S Captivate is coming to us this September, Same Pros and Cons except it doesnt have as much software issues?
iPhone 4
Pros:
Better Music Player
Great Support (Obviously a very popular phone)
Definitly a lot of better apps, for now
Cons:
No Adobe Flash
Blocking Signals, although I know from friends that it is not a big issue at all
if you got a good point that another phone might be better, i might change my mind
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Id get the disire. as you said, no cons
HTC Supersonic
Yeah, I also say grab the HTC Desire.
I am trying to get peoples opinions about on which phone I should get... I have a Samsung Vibrant and I hate the phone... I have narrowed down to the two options, 1) Mytouch 4G or 2) G2. I don't know which one i should get or if any of those two are for me at all. If everyone could give me their opinions that would be awesome!
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I am trying to get peoples opinions about on which phone I should get... I have a Samsung Vibrant and I hate the phone... I have narrowed down to the two options, 1) Mytouch 4G or 2) G2. I don't know which one i should get or if any of those two are for me at all. If everyone could give me their opinions that would be awesome!
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i had both phones so i got hands on with them... it depends if you need keyword NEED a physical keyboard... the hinge on the G2 is 100% horrible!!!! i had them replace the phone 3 times in a 14 day period in which i ended up with my MT4G now which i love... i havent really use the FFC tho i did couple times when i first got it but its not bad... both phone are extremely fast and sturdy. the G2 is alot heavier tho almost like 6.5 oz i believe... which is heavier than the HD2 but its because of the keyboard... i also had a vibrant too so in comparison with both fully touch screen phones the MT4G beats the vibrant IMO... hope this give you some insight on your decision...
Asking that question on the MT4G board is only going to get you one answer...
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Asking that question on the MT4G board is only going to get you one answer...
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lol haha i never thought of that kinda a retoricle question
haha nice
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Asking that question on the MT4G board is only going to get you one answer...
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Lol yeah i know but like the first reply maybe there were others out there that had or have both.
Great information!
aznpr1de808 said:
i had both phones so i got hands on with them... it depends if you need keyword NEED a physical keyboard... the hinge on the G2 is 100% horrible!!!! i had them replace the phone 3 times in a 14 day period in which i ended up with my MT4G now which i love... i havent really use the FFC tho i did couple times when i first got it but its not bad... both phone are extremely fast and sturdy. the G2 is alot heavier tho almost like 6.5 oz i believe... which is heavier than the HD2 but its because of the keyboard... i also had a vibrant too so in comparison with both fully touch screen phones the MT4G beats the vibrant IMO... hope this give you some insight on your decision...
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It certainly does indeed. I was a little weary about that hinges on the G2 so I figured I would get other peoples thoughts about it.
Oh yeah as for only being posted in here I am posting the same question in the G2 forums as well.
i do miss the vanilla froyo on the G2 i absolutely hate mysense lol but with the help of roms and ADW i made this phone perfect for me some times i miss the keyboard but i hardly type with this phone because i use voice to text recognition so i the end i never needed the keyboard in the first place... i do find that screen on the MT4G looks alittle better than the G2 maybe its jus me lol also you have 4 different choices in color with the MT4G unlike the plain silver on the G2... in the end, both phones are HTC branded, scropion CPUs, and HSPA+ enabled... so do you want a keyboard or Front Facing Camera?
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I have both, and I still love my G2 and its keyboard. Also, the hinge is awesome on both mine and my wife's G2, so that wasn't an issue for us. I don't care for all the crapware on the mT4G, and I miss the capacitive buttons on the G2 and Nexus One I had before that. However, the weight of the device and how it feels keep me trying, along with how FriendStream and Faves work. I got it for free (upgraded my wife's Charm and we switched plans, so I got another phone for free), so I figured I'd keep it or sell it if I don't like it. In fact, I used it for around 2 hours, hated it and went back to my G2. I tried it again the next day and I like it well enough to keep using it.
I got the MT4G few days ago, I also was confused between the G2 and MT4G. I picked the MT because I am going to leave the country soon and I don't want to have replacement problems in case I got the G2 and the hinge turned out to be that bad. I figured out that swype will help me to get rid of my full QWERTY keyboard addiction. I liked the feeling of the MT in the hand, it's more confined. Till now I love the phone. Go and spend time playing with the phones at T mobile, I used each one of them for about half an hour in the store and then I decided.
I've owned all three of T-Mo's flagships, so I can give you a brief breakdown of my opinions in regards to T-Mo's high-end line-up...
I used each phone for at least 30 days, and obsessively documented both my satisfactions and gripes with each device.
Prepare for OCD overload!
Galaxy S / Vibrant:
Pros
Best media playback device, hands down (XViD, H264, HD videos, anything really).
Best DLNA streaming ever! Streams to a PS3 like a bad-ass little wireless HDD!
One of the better-sounding speakers on a phone.
Samsung's 'White Noise' Alarm Clock is pretty sweet.
The best parts of the iPhone on Android (Calculator / Calendar / Alarm apps)
Amazing quality screen.
Best Camera outside of the iPhone 4.
LED Flash is not really missed.
HD Video Recording is excellent, and the sound is quite nice as well.
Bluetooth 3.0 / Wireless N support
Great Swype device.
A huge amount of storage by default.
Super-fast 3G Performance when signal is strong.
Cons
No Hardware 'Silent' Switch.
Cheap construction -- creaks and feels like a kid's toy.
Blue-tint to everything / Ghosting of Text.
Absolutely broken and utterly worthless GPS.
Short battery life.
Laggy SD card access.
Software updates always trailing behind.
No dedicated Camera Button.
Hardly any Developer Support.
No notification LED.
No LED Flash (only missed due to Flashlight apps).
HTC G2 / Desire Z
Pros
WiFi Calling + WiFi Tether
HSPA+ support.
Mostly-stock Android 2.2.1
Battery Door Latch.
Decent screen.
Best Physical Keyboard on a phone, ever.
Lightning-fast, despite lower clockspeed.
Mostly-solid Construction.
Dedicated Camera Button.
GPS works like a champ! Lock within seconds, great accuracy.
Tons of Developer Support.
Notification LED.
Would be completely amazing, if you could just get one with a solid hinge!
Cons
Still no Hardware 'Silent' Switch.
T-Mo Bloatware.
Trackpad is not accurate / does not work well.
No Wake On Trackpad.
Trackpad Notification Ring is really hard to see / only one color.
Stock Android's Copy and Paste is miserable.
Ridiculous floppy hinge that falls down when the phone is tilted.
Dedicated Camera Button feels really cheap compared to mT4G's.
MicroSD card is not hot-swappable (change out while device is on).
Speaker is really quite miserable sounding -- one of the worst.
Really low-quality Camera and one of the worst LED Flash implementations I've ever seen -- pictures look abysmally awful.
Terrible video recording, as an extra kick to the nuts.
Small amount of storage.
No FFC.
Terrible for media playback in every way.
Lock button is too recessed.
Typical HTC Quality-Control Issues (check for dead pixels / some screens look kinda ****ty).
HTC Glacier / myTouch 4G
Pros:
WiFi Calling + WiFi Tether
Solid construction -- this thing feels like a hefty little tank.
The lastest and greatest hardware.
Too Much RAM! (768 v. the standard 512)
HSPA+ support.
FM Radio!
Docking Pins for Desk / GPS cradle accessories.
Nice little kit 'travel case' with high-quality headset, USB cable and wall plug.
Trackpad that actually works really well / Wake On Trackpad (iPhone-style).
Perfect GPS, like the G2.
Better Camera App than stock Android.
Dedicated Camera Key is really nice!
LED Flash performs much better than the G2's.
Better UI for adjusting Times in Clocks / Calendars (iPhone-style scrollwheels).
Better Copy and Paste, ripped directly from iOS.
Neat 'New Sense' features: Flip on-call to speaker; flip while ringing to silent; louder in-pocket; softer when picked up.
Pretty HTC eye-candy widgets / the infamous Clock!
Cons
Again with the Hardware 'Silent' Switch!
Carrier Bloat.
HTC Gallery sucks (no Picasa support!?).
DLNA sharing is too hard to set up / doesn't work very well.
QIK blows for Video Chat.
HTC Lock Screen sucks (no Froyo Lock Screen option).
Media Playback is - again - abysmal compared to the Vibrant.
'MyFaves' is useless and locked to the Dock Launcher.
HTC's Contacts App is bloated, slow and completely annoying ('T-Mobile' account syncing? Yuck!).
Small amount of storage.
'Genius' Button is pretentious and mostly useless. Lack of a Search Button is really, really, really annoying.
Lock Button is too recessed on most units.
Battery Door breaks fingernails.
Speaker quality is not amazing (but better than the G2's).
Phone is kind of a mish-mash of designs / isn't as pretty as the N1.
Typical HTC Quality-Control Issues (dead pixel / some screens kinda meh / FFC is sometimes not aligned with cut-out hole).
Over the course of the past few months, finding the 'perfect' Android phone has been super difficult for me. The G2 was almost it, but I couldn't get over how cheap / annoying that hinge felt. I loved the feel of the keyboard, and ended up using it a lot, but I prefer slate phones. That said, I think 4" is the sweet spot, and it's annoying that T-Mo and HTC opted to downsize the otherwise-Desire-HD myTouch 4G into the 3.7" form-factor.
If I could sum up my reason for sticking with the myTouch 4G, it would be: "Everything on it just works (for once)". There are no 'GPS/Lag Fix' bugs to worry about, and there isn't much hardware on it that would potentially fail. It has neat little nerdy features like FM radio, and in general, is a little powerhouse. It feels like a device that has been in the making for a while.
If you're just looking for a super-solid Android phone, I can't think of a better one than the myTouch 4G, right now (and I've thought about jumping ship to other carriers / played with every phone). Some nice docks are on the way, and T-Mo is actually going to support this phone. I like it a lot.
However, if you have any interest or need in watching movies, this is not your device. This is really annoying for me, as I like to watch shows on breaks / commutes; but it's something I'll just have to get over. The Vibrant was like a bad-ass little plasma TV that could play anything I loaded onto the 16GB internal memory, and it's hard to not have that capability on other devices.
If I could do it all over again, even knowing about and having handled a Nexus S (which is solid-feeling, if you had any fears based on the Vibrant), I'd probably still pick the myTouch 4G. It just feels so solid and well-designed. The 'Genius Button' is probably the biggest deal-breaker for me, besides 'MyFaves'. Other than that, I really love MySense with all of the 'New Sense' features.
I say: myTouch 4G (and I feel as if I give all devices a fair shake / run through the discrimination chamber).
Hope that helps a little. Enjoy your phone!
Yes you may think my answer is biased but I had 2 G2's before I got the MT4G and I had a hard time deciding if I wanted to try a third one or go to the MT4G. I never used the HW keyboard and the loose hinges made me sick. So what I finally made my decision on was the Overall potential of the device. The 786 mb of RAM the extra features such as copy and paste and a few other nice things from the mysense. I also knew we would eventually get root and that it was just a matter of time before we have stock gingerbread 2.3 for the MT4G.
On the G2 I had a lot of problems with the signal and losing connection and it staying off or did not switch properly. I also like the lite weight and feel of the MT4G.
Hope this helps you.
Jon C said:
I've owned all three of T-Mo's flagships, so I can give you a brief breakdown of my opinions in regards to T-Mo's high-end line-up...
I used each phone for at least 30 days, and obsessively documented both my satisfactions and gripes with each device.
Prepare for OCD overload!
Galaxy S / Vibrant:
Pros
Best media playback device, hands down (XViD, H264, HD videos, anything really).
Best DLNA streaming ever! Streams to a PS3 like a bad-ass little wireless HDD!
One of the better-sounding speakers on a phone.
Samsung's 'White Noise' Alarm Clock is pretty sweet.
The best parts of the iPhone on Android (Calculator / Calendar / Alarm apps)
Amazing quality screen.
Best Camera outside of the iPhone 4.
LED Flash is not really missed.
HD Video Recording is excellent, and the sound is quite nice as well.
Bluetooth 3.0 / Wireless N support
Great Swype device.
A huge amount of storage by default.
Super-fast 3G Performance when signal is strong.
Cons
No Hardware 'Silent' Switch.
Cheap construction -- creaks and feels like a kid's toy.
Blue-tint to everything / Ghosting of Text.
Absolutely broken and utterly worthless GPS.
Short battery life.
Laggy SD card access.
Software updates always trailing behind.
No dedicated Camera Button.
Hardly any Developer Support.
No notification LED.
No LED Flash (only missed due to Flashlight apps).
HTC G2 / Desire Z
Pros
WiFi Calling + WiFi Tether
HSPA+ support.
Mostly-stock Android 2.2.1
Battery Door Latch.
Decent screen.
Best Physical Keyboard on a phone, ever.
Lightning-fast, despite lower clockspeed.
Mostly-solid Construction.
Dedicated Camera Button.
GPS works like a champ! Lock within seconds, great accuracy.
Tons of Developer Support.
Notification LED.
Would be completely amazing, if you could just get one with a solid hinge!
Cons
Still no Hardware 'Silent' Switch.
T-Mo Bloatware.
Trackpad is not accurate / does not work well.
No Wake On Trackpad.
Trackpad Notification Ring is really hard to see / only one color.
Stock Android's Copy and Paste is miserable.
Ridiculous floppy hinge that falls down when the phone is tilted.
Dedicated Camera Button feels really cheap compared to mT4G's.
MicroSD card is not hot-swappable (change out while device is on).
Speaker is really quite miserable sounding -- one of the worst.
Really low-quality Camera and one of the worst LED Flash implementations I've ever seen -- pictures look abysmally awful.
Terrible video recording, as an extra kick to the nuts.
Small amount of storage.
No FFC.
Terrible for media playback in every way.
Lock button is too recessed.
Typical HTC Quality-Control Issues (check for dead pixels / some screens look kinda ****ty).
HTC Glacier / myTouch 4G
Pros:
WiFi Calling + WiFi Tether
Solid construction -- this thing feels like a hefty little tank.
The lastest and greatest hardware.
Too Much RAM! (768 v. the standard 512)
HSPA+ support.
FM Radio!
Docking Pins for Desk / GPS cradle accessories.
Nice little kit 'travel case' with high-quality headset, USB cable and wall plug.
Trackpad that actually works really well / Wake On Trackpad (iPhone-style).
Perfect GPS, like the G2.
Better Camera App than stock Android.
Dedicated Camera Key is really nice!
LED Flash performs much better than the G2's.
Better UI for adjusting Times in Clocks / Calendars (iPhone-style scrollwheels).
Better Copy and Paste, ripped directly from iOS.
Neat 'New Sense' features: Flip on-call to speaker; flip while ringing to silent; louder in-pocket; softer when picked up.
Pretty HTC eye-candy widgets / the infamous Clock!
Cons
Again with the Hardware 'Silent' Switch!
Carrier Bloat.
HTC Gallery sucks (no Picasa support!?).
DLNA sharing is too hard to set up / doesn't work very well.
QIK blows for Video Chat.
HTC Lock Screen sucks (no Froyo Lock Screen option).
Media Playback is - again - abysmal compared to the Vibrant.
'MyFaves' is useless and locked to the Dock Launcher.
HTC's Contacts App is bloated, slow and completely annoying ('T-Mobile' account syncing? Yuck!).
Small amount of storage.
'Genius' Button is pretentious and mostly useless. Lack of a Search Button is really, really, really annoying.
Lock Button is too recessed on most units.
Battery Door breaks fingernails.
Speaker quality is not amazing (but better than the G2's).
Phone is kind of a mish-mash of designs / isn't as pretty as the N1.
Typical HTC Quality-Control Issues (dead pixel / some screens kinda meh / FFC is sometimes not aligned with cut-out hole).
Over the course of the past few months, finding the 'perfect' Android phone has been super difficult for me. The G2 was almost it, but I couldn't get over how cheap / annoying that hinge felt. I loved the feel of the keyboard, and ended up using it a lot, but I prefer slate phones. That said, I think 4" is the sweet spot, and it's annoying that T-Mo and HTC opted to downsize the otherwise-Desire-HD myTouch 4G into the 3.7" form-factor.
If I could sum up my reason for sticking with the myTouch 4G, it would be: "Everything on it just works (for once)". There are no 'GPS/Lag Fix' bugs to worry about, and there isn't much hardware on it that would potentially fail. It has neat little nerdy features like FM radio, and in general, is a little powerhouse. It feels like a device that has been in the making for a while.
If you're just looking for a super-solid Android phone, I can't think of a better one than the myTouch 4G, right now (and I've thought about jumping ship to other carriers / played with every phone). Some nice docks are on the way, and T-Mo is actually going to support this phone. I like it a lot.
However, if you have any interest or need in watching movies, this is not your device. This is really annoying for me, as I like to watch shows on breaks / commutes; but it's something I'll just have to get over. The Vibrant was like a bad-ass little plasma TV that could play anything I loaded onto the 16GB internal memory, and it's hard to not have that capability on other devices.
If I could do it all over again, even knowing about and having handled a Nexus S (which is solid-feeling, if you had any fears based on the Vibrant), I'd probably still pick the myTouch 4G. It just feels so solid and well-designed. The 'Genius Button' is probably the biggest deal-breaker for me, besides 'MyFaves'. Other than that, I really love MySense with all of the 'New Sense' features.
I say: myTouch 4G (and I feel as if I give all devices a fair shake / run through the discrimination chamber).
Hope that helps a little. Enjoy your phone!
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Jon This is by far the best input I have ever seen on any page....ummmmm...... EVER!!!
Based on reading this and all the other comments I chose the MT4G over the g2 only because the people that were using the G2 were like super nerds and im not one to know how to do like 85% of all those things they do to their phones...
No lie I read this again and again... seriously the best comparison I have ever seen. But I did read everywhere that there is a lot of bloatware... Is there a way to rid the device of this?
Jon C said:
I've owned all three of T-Mo's flagships, so I can give you a brief breakdown of my opinions in regards to T-Mo's high-end line-up...
I used each phone for at least 30 days, and obsessively documented both my satisfactions and gripes with each device.
Prepare for OCD overload!
Galaxy S / Vibrant:
Pros
Best media playback device, hands down (XViD, H264, HD videos, anything really).
Best DLNA streaming ever! Streams to a PS3 like a bad-ass little wireless HDD!
One of the better-sounding speakers on a phone.
Samsung's 'White Noise' Alarm Clock is pretty sweet.
The best parts of the iPhone on Android (Calculator / Calendar / Alarm apps)
Amazing quality screen.
Best Camera outside of the iPhone 4.
LED Flash is not really missed.
HD Video Recording is excellent, and the sound is quite nice as well.
Bluetooth 3.0 / Wireless N support
Great Swype device.
A huge amount of storage by default.
Super-fast 3G Performance when signal is strong.
Cons
No Hardware 'Silent' Switch.
Cheap construction -- creaks and feels like a kid's toy.
Blue-tint to everything / Ghosting of Text.
Absolutely broken and utterly worthless GPS.
Short battery life.
Laggy SD card access.
Software updates always trailing behind.
No dedicated Camera Button.
Hardly any Developer Support.
No notification LED.
No LED Flash (only missed due to Flashlight apps).
HTC G2 / Desire Z
Pros
WiFi Calling + WiFi Tether
HSPA+ support.
Mostly-stock Android 2.2.1
Battery Door Latch.
Decent screen.
Best Physical Keyboard on a phone, ever.
Lightning-fast, despite lower clockspeed.
Mostly-solid Construction.
Dedicated Camera Button.
GPS works like a champ! Lock within seconds, great accuracy.
Tons of Developer Support.
Notification LED.
Would be completely amazing, if you could just get one with a solid hinge!
Cons
Still no Hardware 'Silent' Switch.
T-Mo Bloatware.
Trackpad is not accurate / does not work well.
No Wake On Trackpad.
Trackpad Notification Ring is really hard to see / only one color.
Stock Android's Copy and Paste is miserable.
Ridiculous floppy hinge that falls down when the phone is tilted.
Dedicated Camera Button feels really cheap compared to mT4G's.
MicroSD card is not hot-swappable (change out while device is on).
Speaker is really quite miserable sounding -- one of the worst.
Really low-quality Camera and one of the worst LED Flash implementations I've ever seen -- pictures look abysmally awful.
Terrible video recording, as an extra kick to the nuts.
Small amount of storage.
No FFC.
Terrible for media playback in every way.
Lock button is too recessed.
Typical HTC Quality-Control Issues (check for dead pixels / some screens look kinda ****ty).
HTC Glacier / myTouch 4G
Pros:
WiFi Calling + WiFi Tether
Solid construction -- this thing feels like a hefty little tank.
The lastest and greatest hardware.
Too Much RAM! (768 v. the standard 512)
HSPA+ support.
FM Radio!
Docking Pins for Desk / GPS cradle accessories.
Nice little kit 'travel case' with high-quality headset, USB cable and wall plug.
Trackpad that actually works really well / Wake On Trackpad (iPhone-style).
Perfect GPS, like the G2.
Better Camera App than stock Android.
Dedicated Camera Key is really nice!
LED Flash performs much better than the G2's.
Better UI for adjusting Times in Clocks / Calendars (iPhone-style scrollwheels).
Better Copy and Paste, ripped directly from iOS.
Neat 'New Sense' features: Flip on-call to speaker; flip while ringing to silent; louder in-pocket; softer when picked up.
Pretty HTC eye-candy widgets / the infamous Clock!
Cons
Again with the Hardware 'Silent' Switch!
Carrier Bloat.
HTC Gallery sucks (no Picasa support!?).
DLNA sharing is too hard to set up / doesn't work very well.
QIK blows for Video Chat.
HTC Lock Screen sucks (no Froyo Lock Screen option).
Media Playback is - again - abysmal compared to the Vibrant.
'MyFaves' is useless and locked to the Dock Launcher.
HTC's Contacts App is bloated, slow and completely annoying ('T-Mobile' account syncing? Yuck!).
Small amount of storage.
'Genius' Button is pretentious and mostly useless. Lack of a Search Button is really, really, really annoying.
Lock Button is too recessed on most units.
Battery Door breaks fingernails.
Speaker quality is not amazing (but better than the G2's).
Phone is kind of a mish-mash of designs / isn't as pretty as the N1.
Typical HTC Quality-Control Issues (dead pixel / some screens kinda meh / FFC is sometimes not aligned with cut-out hole).
Over the course of the past few months, finding the 'perfect' Android phone has been super difficult for me. The G2 was almost it, but I couldn't get over how cheap / annoying that hinge felt. I loved the feel of the keyboard, and ended up using it a lot, but I prefer slate phones. That said, I think 4" is the sweet spot, and it's annoying that T-Mo and HTC opted to downsize the otherwise-Desire-HD myTouch 4G into the 3.7" form-factor.
If I could sum up my reason for sticking with the myTouch 4G, it would be: "Everything on it just works (for once)". There are no 'GPS/Lag Fix' bugs to worry about, and there isn't much hardware on it that would potentially fail. It has neat little nerdy features like FM radio, and in general, is a little powerhouse. It feels like a device that has been in the making for a while.
If you're just looking for a super-solid Android phone, I can't think of a better one than the myTouch 4G, right now (and I've thought about jumping ship to other carriers / played with every phone). Some nice docks are on the way, and T-Mo is actually going to support this phone. I like it a lot.
However, if you have any interest or need in watching movies, this is not your device. This is really annoying for me, as I like to watch shows on breaks / commutes; but it's something I'll just have to get over. The Vibrant was like a bad-ass little plasma TV that could play anything I loaded onto the 16GB internal memory, and it's hard to not have that capability on other devices.
If I could do it all over again, even knowing about and having handled a Nexus S (which is solid-feeling, if you had any fears based on the Vibrant), I'd probably still pick the myTouch 4G. It just feels so solid and well-designed. The 'Genius Button' is probably the biggest deal-breaker for me, besides 'MyFaves'. Other than that, I really love MySense with all of the 'New Sense' features.
I say: myTouch 4G (and I feel as if I give all devices a fair shake / run through the discrimination chamber).
Hope that helps a little. Enjoy your phone!
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if it comes down to someone who likes to flash roms is the mytouch 4g still better ?
And do ya know which of the 2 phones can overclock more
If you live by flashing ROMs, then I'd go for the G2 since it has the keyboard (no need for ADB in some cases) and Cyanogen is personally maintaining his distro on that unit the last I checked. I've flashed my G1 and Nexus One, and at this point I have no desire to do it again; I like what the myTouch 4G offers, even if it does have a bit too much bloatware for my liking.
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If you live by flashing ROMs, then I'd go for the G2 since it has the keyboard (no need for ADB in some cases) and Cyanogen is personally maintaining his distro on that unit the last I checked. I've flashed my G1 and Nexus One, and at this point I have no desire to do it again; I like what the myTouch 4G offers, even if it does have a bit too much bloatware for my liking.
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Oh okk which phone has better battery life anyway?
student.driver said:
If you live by flashing ROMs, then I'd go for the G2 since it has the keyboard (no need for ADB in some cases) and Cyanogen is personally maintaining his distro on that unit the last I checked. I've flashed my G1 and Nexus One, and at this point I have no desire to do it again; I like what the myTouch 4G offers, even if it does have a bit too much bloatware for my liking.
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Everyone has an opinion and I think this is a false statement. There are many people with the MT4G flashing and it is easy with root to remove any bloatware you want.
the iced glacier ROM is very good ROM basically a stock ROM with bloatware removed and a OC kernel capable to 1.7 Ghz. Everything works.
We also have 2 new developers who have in the past ported CM to other devices and their devices have already been shipped to them.
And about ADB what is this about? Having a physical or soft keyboard makes no different on which method you use send commands to the system.
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Everyone has an opinion and I think this is a false statement. There are many people with the MT4G flashing and it is easy with root to remove any bloatware you want.
the iced glacier ROM is very good ROM basically a stock ROM with bloatware removed and a OC kernel capable to 1.7 Ghz. Everything works.
We also have 2 new developers who have in the past ported CM to other devices and their devices have already been shipped to them.
And about ADB what is this about? Having a physical or soft keyboard makes no different on which method you use send commands to the system.
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1.7?. Can't wait til I get my mytouch but doesn't it kill the battery quicker?
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1.7?. Can't wait til I get my mytouch but doesn't it kill the battery quicker?
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You just set up profiles with set CPU and use on demand scaling and set other profiles like for when the screen is off set to 368 mhz etc. Battery life on mine is better than with the G2 and I think it should with a 1500 ma battery.
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You just set up profiles with set CPU and use on demand scaling and set other profiles like for when the screen is off set to 368 mhz etc. Battery life on mine is better than with the G2 and I think it should with a 1500 ma battery.
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Cool . How lonq does it last ? But from what I know doesn't the g2 have 1300 ma nd the mytouch 1400 ma tho
So my Wife needed a new phone, and get out of T-Mobile, and on to a good family plan. Since I was with Sprint already the last year with my EVO 4G, I said get the Nexus-S this weekend, will be a great little phone compared to her old school MyTouch 3G.
So we went to the Sprint store my buddy is a Mngr at, and I got the bug and also picked up a Nexus-S 4G, and set us up on a killer family plan.
- What I like about the Nexus-S;
Lightweight and fits in pocket easily
Screen is beautiful
Battery life is longer than rooted EVO
Pure "vanilla" Google OS, clean with no bloatware
2.3.4 Video Chat for the Wife and kids
- What I don't like;
Miss the "Sense UI"
4" curved screen, makes it feel much smaller than the EVO's 4.3" flat tablet like display.
No Sprint Visual Voicemail
My EVO 4G was rooted with Myn's RS 5, and I LOVED it, but the phone felt a little too thick and bulky at times, and heavy in the pocket, especially with Summer now, the phone does not fit in a short sleeve pocket like the Nexus easily does. And even with netarchy kernel and all battery life still was crappy compared to rooted Nexus-S.
But I seem to really miss the "Sense UI" the most, just a bit of a shock getting used to vanilla Android. I liked the Sense e-mail app, for non gmail accounts. The dialer and contacts was nice. The keyboard was sweet with arrows keys. Stock Visual Voicemail was great.
Not too sure what to do now ? Keep the Nexus-S and wait for CM 7.1 ROM that supports 2.3.4 and see how I like that ? I was a big fan of Cyanogen back on my Nexus-One, but then got turned onto Sense. Or go back to EVO and upgrade to EVO 3D next month and wait for Myn's ROM on that beast ?
i went from an evo to the nexus s and am loving it. i really wanted that pure google and once i got it rooted, some useless apps removed it was even better.
for me, an overall better experience than the evo.
apreichner is in the process of porting sense to the NS, so there is a big chance we'll be seeing a fully functional sense port. Just have patience, the NS is a great phone
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i went from an evo to the nexus s and am loving it. i really wanted that pure google and once i got it rooted, some useless apps removed it was even better.
for me, an overall better experience than the evo.
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I am getting much more comfortable with my Nexus-S 4G today, after a full work day of use. Loving the feel of it in the palm of my hand, rests so nicely, and the screen is gorgeous. The battery life on the Nexus is amazing so far, being unplugged for 6+ hours, and not even half drained yet, at 60% now, and that's with tons of phone calls and plenty of texting as well as web browsing. And still not even rooted yet, so no custom ROM's or kernels, can only imagine the battery life with a good netarchy
The EVO to me is borderline tablet big, not just the 4.3" screen, but was also very thick and heavy. Not a fun phone to carry around in light shorts in the Summer. But sometimes that was nice, making it feel like a mini laptop, with lots of space to work with, and the Sense e-mail and contacts were very well designed.
But the more I am with the Nexus-S, the more I like it. yeah I misses the Sense UI, but getting used to vanilla is nice too Just waiting for CM 7.1 to come out, and then this phone should really be amazing.
Zorachus, I would suggest that you wait another 15 days or so before making a decision to switch back to the EVO if you so choose to.
I believe within that time frame you could either have a working sense port running on your nexus S, OR EVEN perhaps you could try miui when the netarchy kernel for the nexus 4G comes out.
To be honest Miui is just as full of a rom as Sense roms themselves. Lots of nice features and a lovely UI
Thanks for all the advice appreciated I am getting more comfortable with this the Nexus. Everyday.
Main thing I miss with Sense is the default email app blows the stock Android one out of the water. And the dialer on sense was much better too. Its just those two things really.
Battery life is night and day better on this nexus compared to my evo and this phones sots in my hand better and hides in pocket easily.
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I just switched to the Nexus S 4G from the Evo. I picked it up last night. I was running CM 7 on the Evo so the switch wasn't that big of a deal. So far, I like the weight, the size (I agree with you on the size thing. I can handle this change) Battery life I'm not sure about but I got somewhere around 25 hours on the EVO, so we'll see how the this one handles.
I like the pure Google experience. I thought the EVO was going to be updated constantly from the manufacture but sadly its now left behind at least for now.
I'd rather have google push out my updates than rely on HTC.
and what about a desire hd? should i get ns over my dhd? really don't know.. =o\\
ok...another day with the Nexus-S, and it is growing on me finally Was having major EVO withdrawal, mainly missing a lot of the "Sense UI" stuff, but now with these new apps installed, am really starting to dig this sexy Nexy.
Here are several apps I needed to install to get rid of the lame stock ones.
- #1 was "Better Keyboard 8", a much improved keypad for texting, e-mails, etc...larger buttons, smarter layout of keys, and all black themed.
- #2 was "Go SMS", hands down the best text app, and with a cool black theme, blows away the boring stock Messaging, very customizable.
- #3 was "YouMail" Makes it just like the stock Sprint Visual Voicemail on my EVO.
- #4 was "Opera Mini" web browser, night and day faster than the stock internet, very smooth and no lagging.
- #5 was "On Call End" when done with a phone call, bring you back to home screen, instead of dialer.
- #6 was "TouchPal Dialer " shows the recent calls on top with keypad below, shows how long ago the call was made or missed, more like the "Sense UI" dialer.
- #7 was "Beautiful Widgets" a must have for the coolest clock/weather screen.
And several other apps, but these seven above were must haves, and make my Nexus-S much improved, and closer to the "Sense UI" stuff I missed from my EVO, and a lot of these apps have option for black theme which I really like on this phone.
But still the one MISSING app I can not find anywhere is a good default e-mail client for the non @gmail accounts. The default Sense UI e-mail on the EVO was ****ing spot on perfect, wish there was something in the Market to match that ?
K-9 mail?
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Try Touchdown mail client if you like the sense mail client. I use it for my work's exchange server and am loving it!
Just wondering why everyone chose the S4 over the main competition, the HTC One, and the phablet Note II and Optimus G Pro.
Myself, i was happy with my GS3, and my folks wanted new phones (still rockin iPhone 3Gs) and made us a deal for our GS3's and we got GS4's (they are on our plan).
My reasons are perhaps a bit different than most... I work in TV/film, and have very good eyesight; i could easily see the PenTile fuzz effect on the GS3 screen, and it was VERY obvious on the Atrix 4G. I always opted for the highest PPI monitors for equipment, and while the GS3 was GOOD, it wasn't great.
1080P - Full HD, even if its on a tiny screen, is great as i can zoom in to show client/etc detail on 2k/4k i've shot.
Color Modes - i use 'Movie' exclusively as it is basically sRGB
sRGB - standard Rec.709 gamut/colorspace - again for showing clients what their/my content looks like very close as on a proper monitor
IR Blaster - I have remotes everywhere; for HDSLR's, reciever/amp/DAC's, Windows Media PC's, stereo's, TV's, etc; i LOVE the IR blaster.
Sensors - Hygrometer/Thermometer/Magnetometer/Barometer, i actually use these a lot for dumb things, but they work and its a plus
Battery - removable/replaceable
NFC - I use NFC tags a lot (car mode, play a playlist while im cooking/cleaning WITHOUT mucking up phone screen
Wireless charging - Had it in the S3 with NFC working, looking forwards to it with the GS4. Even wired one in the misc tray in my car and GF's SUV
Color - Waited for white to come out as almost everything i own is white. Im a mobile nudist
SD expansion - I usually have 2 or 3 64GB MicroSD cards in my wallet with other stuff on them; pics/demo reel, movies, music, etc. I like having my content stored LOCALLY.
Devs - Also figured it would have strongest support of all 4 i had considered
Reasons i didn't go with the HTC One
Sealed unit, no Ext SD, and i think its really ugly aesthetically.
Reasons i didn't go with the LG Optimus Pro
too big (i can JUST reach across the S4 screen one-handed)
Reasons i didn't go with the Note II
Low PPI screen (lower than GS3 and actually lower than the 960x540 QHD, 4" Atrix 4G)
No IR blaster
too big
What are your reasons? I do miss the Atrix 4G fingerprint sensor. A LOT. That thing was *****in, and accurate; no need to look or fumble, just press power and swipe. One thing i wish the GS4 had.
For me, it came down to the HTC One and the S4. I know all about HTC nice build materials, and shoddy quality and that played into my decision. More importantly, the screen size sealed my decision. The screen and bezels are perfectly done on the S4 while the screen looks a lot smaller than it is on the HTC.
Also, the home button on top annoys me.
It's an impressive device, though and may eventually get one.
Edit: after the purchase, I'm really liking the removable battery too
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My girlfriend has the HTC One, and I had it too but returned it for a 32GB S4.
Resons for the S4:
Colors: you can adjust the colors to whatever you want, and soon perseus will be out of 'beta' for the i9500 and we can have 100% color gamut replication, literally changing all the colors around if you want. I personally always like Standard, I don't know why maybe because it just pops out. But today im going to try movie and see if I stay with that as my monitor is calibrated at adobeRGB spec. We'll see.
Bezel: It's like... not there. I have a nice slim case that doesnt protrude at all but im too worried about it at this point to use it haha.
Buttons: Coming from an iPhone 5... home button is the best.
Development: It'll be popular for years. I mean look at the S2 forum.
Reasons I liked the HTC one:
Speakers: self explanatory.
Screen: No color bleeding and such but the blacks weren't as nice.
Build: Aluminium is piece of mind, albeit a thick phone IMO.
Optimus G Pro: Used it in store, amazing screen; LG sucks with updates so I was like hell no... Also camera is mediocre at best.
I'm getting the s4 tomorrow for the following reasons: external sd storage, removable battery, and the screen size. I'm not really into phablets because it would feel too big in my pocket. My nexus 7 is fine if i need a bigger screen. Coming from the HTC One xl and i literally have no space left with the 16gb. Have to keep my titanium back up and movies on a usb. Getting the 32gb version as well as putting in a 32 gb mirco sd in it. Sense vs touchwiz? I would choose touchwiz over sense coming from a poor experience i had with sense on the htc one xl. Definitely AOSP over those two though
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My girlfriend has the HTC One, and I had it too but returned it for a 32GB S4.
Resons for the S4:
Colors: you can adjust the colors to whatever you want, and soon perseus will be out of 'beta' for the i9500 and we can have 100% color gamut replication, literally changing all the colors around if you want. I personally always like Standard, I don't know why maybe because it just pops out. But today im going to try movie and see if I stay with that as my monitor is calibrated at adobeRGB spec. We'll see.
Bezel: It's like... not there. I have a nice slim case that doesnt protrude at all but im too worried about it at this point to use it haha.
Buttons: Coming from an iPhone 5... home button is the best.
Development: It'll be popular for years. I mean look at the S2 forum.
Reasons I liked the HTC one:
Speakers: self explanatory.
Screen: No color bleeding and such but the blacks weren't as nice.
Build: Aluminium is piece of mind, albeit a thick phone IMO.
Optimus G Pro: Used it in store, amazing screen; LG sucks with updates so I was like hell no... Also camera is mediocre at best.
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You will love movie mode. It takes a couple days to get used to come from other modes, but now even the standard mode looks like crap compared to movie. P.s. Movie mode has been highly rated by a couple of professional display reviewers.
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I am a simple man. I chose the S4 because I had the S2, and because it had a removable battery and sd card slot.
I went with the s4 after seeing that commercial where the lady's phone is ringing and she turned it over to ignore the call. I was like wow, I want that.
Reasons why I chose the S4 over the HTC One? Simple, it's more practical and more ideal for productivity and long road trips.
- I like the 1080p AMOLED screen to the SLCD 3 on the HTC One. Richer colors or more realistic ones on the former [choices]
- Better battery life
- Removable battery for further life
- SD Card, more potential capacity [you can root and mesh your internal and external storage for applications/games]
- More pleasant aesthetics
- Preferred UI
- More software offerings [some gimmicks, some useful, but at least they're offered to the consumer]
- Bigger display on the same sized body as the HTC One
- Faster RAM [LDDR3 vs LDDR2]
- Capacitive touch screen works with gloves [great for the winter]
- Won't damage as badly as the metal chassie on the One over time from wear and tear
I used a HTC One for a week, I end up exchanging it for a Galaxy S4 because the 4MP Camera couldn't get enough details for my needs & the battery life wasn't as good as GS4..
As small as it may seem I needed a physical button. Lol.
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I kinda miss the soft buttons from my old lg.
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I tried them all, and the S4 just feels better in the hand and I've just become accustomed to the perks of running with Samsung.
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Two words...that screen. I came from owning nothing but Nexus devices the last two years. I had the chance to fall in love with the Super AMOLED screens on the Nexus S, Galaxy Nexus, and the incredible PLS display on those Nexus 10. What do they all have in common? Samsung. The screen on the Nexus 4 is nice, but once you're used to Samsung's screens, nothing else quite compares.
After being on nothing but stock Android for two years, I have to say that Touchwiz has really impressed me as well. I feel like, I'm cheating on a girlfriend or something when I say that, but it's true. Touchwiz has a fair number of things that I wish Google would implement into the stock UI and UX.
Overall, I'm very happy with this phone. I just hope that AT&T actually allows Samsung to keep this phone up to date. AT&T and T-Mobile are both the worst when it comes to updates. With Verizon and Sprint, the updates may take time to go through approvals and testing, but they will eventually be released. AT&T and T-Mobile on the other hand are known to actually tell manufacturers that they're going to pass on an update made available to them. Cases in point:
1. T-Mobile passed on the Windows Phone 7.8 update for the Lumia 710 even though Nokia made it available.
2. T-Mobile passed on the Ice Cream Sandwich update for the LG G2X even though LG made it available.
3. AT&T still has not allowed Samsung to release Jelly Bean for the original Galaxy S2 I777 model, even though they allowed it for the Skyrocket.
4. AT&T still has not allowed Samsung to release the Galaxy S3 update that includes the premium suite of GS4 features. Now that Verizon approved the update this week, AT&T is the only major carrier left who hasn't allowed the update to happen.
5. AT&T's Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 is the only variant left worldwide (I believe) that has not received an update to Jelly Bean.
Don't even get me started on what AT&T did to block and hold off the Android 2.2 update for the Dell Streak 5. Anyway, you see my point. If Samsung keeps up their amazing sales momentum, you figure they will soon have enough clout to strongarm carriers into handling updates themselves like Apple does.
Pending update issues aside, this phone is simply amazing. For leaving stock Android for a skin, I couldn't be happier.
I had an HTC One, while I really enjoyed sense and everything the phone offered I could not help but feed my curiosity. I gave my wife the One and used her upgrade to get the 4. I would be lying if I said I got the 4 for anything other than running stock Android when the Galaxy S4 nexus edition comes out. So far I like the screen size and phone size more than the One, I cannot wait to see how this beast phone runs stock Android!!