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Hello everyone.
Recently ordered a Samsung Sidekick 4G and reading on the forums
I noticed people saying that this device lags a lot, has random FCs, etc. and
that they way of getting "rid" of this was by rooting and installing
custom roms. As you might have figured by my low post count, I'm
a newbie with regards to Android phones or Android in general. So
I have a couple of questions.
I know where to look if I want to take the chance and do this
by following this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1275116
(thank God and moderators for stickies!-- making life easier )
But I would like to know:
1) What are the advantages of having Sidekick custom roms (apart
from the usual root access and what not). Is the stock Rom that bad?
Does it have lots of bloat slowing the phone?
2) Has anyone tried the different Roms out there and can I have
an assessment of what they do/offer? (i.e. which one you think
is the best with regards to battery life, bundle of sw, etc for
a newb). Basically their strenghts and weaknesses as I wouldn't want
to lose something important such as network services (i.e. 3G, WiFi, etc.)
And yes, I know that I can try them for myself, but I haven't
even received the phone and I'm scared sh!+less of rooting
don't want to think about repeating the process of the link
above to keep trying different Roms... so I will rely on your
experiences.
3) Since I wont be receiving OTA updates with or without a custom
Rom (I don't have t-mobile, it's an unlocked phone...), do
custom Roms already have stuff from OTA updates??
4) If Android 2.3 update is released for the Sidekick, will it
be available as a "custom" rom? Is that how it works for people
that don't get OTA updates?
5) If I decide to stick with stock Rom, could I still "root"
the phone and play with overclocking and all that jazz?
Finally,
6) What's the meaning of life?!?!?
Hope you can help me with these questions if you can.
And if you don't want to help me... then ... I'll be sad...
for a couple of minutes! ;-)
BTW I also ordered an LG Optimus Quantum just to also try the Windows
OS and compare between both, Android and Windows experiences
(I come from Symbian... Nokia FTW!!! ;-))
Thanks!
to question 4 it will be incorporated to the customs roms no doubt
to question 2 i have used gingerclone v2, lighting rom v2 , touchmiuiwiz, and glorious i like glorious the most so far and dislike lighting v2 the most gingerclone and touchmiui is the same rom different themes
to question 5 you can still root it and overclock it
to question 1 you get d can get better battery life, less bloatware, better signal,
to question 3 on the ota we used kg2 which was an ota as a mix with kd1
that was harsh xtreme .
saying i disliked the rom the most when basically i used 3 roms? thats not being harsh
IMO any rom developed by ayoteddy is worth checking out. Also always be sure to fully read each rom thread's first post; everything you need to know should be there.
And personally I wouldn't flash any rom or attempt to root until you're comfortable using adb commands (I've soft bricked a couple of phones myself and that's no fun at all).
There's a bunch of good youtube tutorials outlining everything from rooting to flashing custom roms. Good luck with everything and welcome to the sk4g family!
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It was not harsh. lol. it's his opinion.
I have used gcv2 and glorius i loved the first but the later is def. Better, u can root without a custom rom. And dont fret about flashing a rom, this is my first phone that iv flashed, rooted etc. And yes after a week or so the stock launcher started lagging. Although i only got fc's on zeam
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Thanks for the responses so far!
And I'll definitely stick with the stock settings but if I begin to experience bugs or lags, I'll definitely look into this! Now I have to check why the heck I'm only getting EDGE!! WTF?!! lol
Thanks.
go to wireless ettings and swtich from gsm to gs/wcda mode
I FAILED!!! :-(
I think I'm going to have to resell this phone on eBay...
I just noticed WHY it wont connect in 3G... T-Mobile phones seem to be "configured" to use the 1700 band but my service provider does 3G like AT&T and I think they use 1900...
Oh well... back to my second option... the Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini Pro...
Thanks guys!
gelocks said:
But I would like to know:
1) What are the advantages of having Sidekick custom roms (apart
from the usual root access and what not). Is the stock Rom that bad?
Does it have lots of bloat slowing the phone?
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with a custom ROM battery usage decreases in some cases and it also allows for more customization of your phone. Like in some ROMs you can change your transition effects, dock settings, and menu settings. It allows you to pick how you want your phone to look. For most people that got the OTA update their phone got really bad with freezes and force closes, you'd have to reboot your phone every day. In the end if you don't like a ROM you can always switch back.
2) Has anyone tried the different Roms out there and can I have
an assessment of what they do/offer? (i.e. which one you think
is the best with regards to battery life, bundle of sw, etc for
a newb). Basically their strenghts and weaknesses as I wouldn't want
to lose something important such as network services (i.e. 3G, WiFi, etc.)
And yes, I know that I can try them for myself, but I haven't
even received the phone and I'm scared sh!+less of rooting
don't want to think about repeating the process of the link
above to keep trying different Roms... so I will rely on your
experiences.
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I've tried a few and at the moment i'm using glorious overdose by ayoteddy and sduvick. This ROM is very smooth and very nice but doesn't allow for as much customization as touchMUI or GingerClone. TouchMui allows you to customize the behaviors of your phone like menu, transitions, etc. through launcherpro which comes with the ROM, BUT it wants you to buy launcherPro when you try to do certain functions. Now i'm a newby too, barely rooted and flashed my phone a few weeks ago, as well as somebody that works with me. I've also experienced alot less forceclose issues with glorious overdose.
3) Since I wont be receiving OTA updates with or without a custom
Rom (I don't have t-mobile, it's an unlocked phone...), do
custom Roms already have stuff from OTA updates??
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There aren't really that many OTA updates but from what i've seen the devs here get stuff before it's actually released, such as KJ2, which we havent officially recieved yet. The one OTA update that happened actually made the phone run like crap, excuse my language.
4) If Android 2.3 update is released for the Sidekick, will it
be available as a "custom" rom? Is that how it works for people
that don't get OTA updates?
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Somebody will probably post a version of it on the forums and devs will most likely use it as soon as they get their hands on it, IF there's still deving going on for this phone at that time.
5) If I decide to stick with stock Rom, could I still "root"
the phone and play with overclocking and all that jazz?
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yes you can, I did that before i actually flashed my phone. root is a different thing than flashing a custom ROM to your phone.
Finally,
6) What's the meaning of life?!?!?
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according to wikipedia, The meaning of life constitutes a philosophical question concerning the purpose and significance of life or existence in general.
6 the purpose of life is to find the answer to that question yourself...
Hey people,
This is for us Wind phone users.
SFB is to bring the phone back to a pre-OR rooted state correct?
So we have one for our phones?
If someone has an 2.1 nandroid of just after they rooted and OR installed.. I would really like it.. I think I lost my original.
James
Here's the Stock Wind ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20930893&postcount=59
thank you! I did not find that post in my searches.
I tried to load some of these fake ICS like rom builds last night and crashed the phone.
So I had to go back to stock.. used the Brightpoint SBF .. worked fine, and you know.. after all the playing I have done with the phone.. it was simple and FAST.. but then quickly 2.1 eclair became too simple and I remember why I am playing with ROMS
James
Which ROMs are you playing with? I agree, 2.1 is just not developed enough but 2.2 seems to be perfect for this device. I've played with the CM6 Rom (which would give me random freezes) and the Bravo one (which I'm currently using and is my personal favourite).
you need to keep an eye on the apps you have running in the background
that's why you experience those random slow downs, it doesn't actually freeze
unless you really mean freeze as in you need to wait for more than 5 minutes and still not back to normal and need to take out the battery to reboot
because if it's so, then i don't have that problem
Thanks for the rom I need this.
CM6 was the first I installed and I can't rule out the possibility that it slowed down on me but bravo seems more stable and more polished, like if the phone came stock with it I probably wouldn't try anything else. Not a lot of eye candy, but our device simply doesn't have the hardware to be so pretty. Plus im not eager to use roms that don't use our hardware (buttons, leds, etc.)
Bravo is a really good ROM, no need to apologize.
Hmm I didn't mean to sound like I didn't appreciate CM6. I can understand why so many like it, and I am glad there are people who are willing to give some time to make our phones even better than the day we bought them.
I want to give the miui rom a try too. Can anyone comment on its functionality(especially other Wind users)?
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I find that the MIUI rom is a tad slow and unresponsive. The good news is that just about everything works. Lack of memory causes frequent slowdowns and crashes though.
Personally, I've had trouble getting WIND 3g working on everything but CM6, miui and bravo... I don't know why.
hey guys... my question is twofold:
1) i find all the nandroid, sbf, everything a bit confusing... and im just wondering how to use this wind stock rom to bring back my phone to the original wind rom, is it as simple as putting the file into the Openrecovery/Updates folder and booting into Open Recovery and Applying the update? or will just doing that mess things up?
2) a few months back i installed the cm6 rom for xt720, since then ive had huge problems with the radio - such as not being able to make calls or send texts. calls and texts will usually eventually work - depending on where i am, but i have to try them several to several dozen times before they do. i checked out my radio baseband and it is not the same as it should be for wind. will reflashing to this stock wind rom reset my baseband as well? i tried using the baseband update from this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1241685) to reset the baseband, but it didnt actually change it.
thanks for anyone who can answer these (noobish) questions
Not sure if you got a reply or not..
With the original ROM you need to use an SBF - I have it, it has been posted here.
Search and you will find the tools you need to re-flash - you need a windows computer, and some software you can download - a clean original ROM cannot be flashed by OR because OR is not in the phone originally.
2. YES putting the phone back to original will be truly original.
James
I am new to flashing, but I want to get ICS on my Samsung Captivate which will not receive an official 4.0 update from Samsung. There are multiple options for ICS roms; the two I have heard most about are Doc Master's and Team Hacksung's CM9 (alpha). Please leave comments as to the general stability for the most up to date versions of the roms if you have experience with them. I am not interested in a buggy rom; i want one that is stable and that has most/all functions. I am a little bit confused on both forums for these roms how stable these roms are. Especially Doc Master's (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1462035). It does not list any specific bugs for the versions; does this mean everything works? I'm new to this so I am confused.
Also, if I would flash one of these ICS roms and decide it is too buggy, or I don't want it anymore, can I get back to my stock Gingerbread 2.3.5 (what I currently have). If so, how? Is the best way to make a nandroid backup of my stock rom (does that work for stock?)? If not, what is.
I appreciate your help.
Help please!
Bump. I really would appreciate any help.
Help please!
Bump. I really would appreciate any help.
ICS rom
I have flashed the 2 roms you asked about. I liked them both until I found Dark Knights ICS 4.0.4. Everything works and it is smooth and fast. I have tried others also, I also liked MIUI but Dark Knights is the best so far for me.
If you search XDA you will find the answers to your other questions. You just have to be willing to read a few threads. When I started I screwed up just about every way you can think of and someone was willing to help me out.
If you go to You tube and search for videos on how to flash your Captivate, many will come up (I am a visual person). Look for videos from Josh at Mobile Tech Videos. He knows what he is talking about and is a great help.
It would probably be better if you posted this question in the captivate forums.
I would post the link but I don't have the power to do that yet.
As for your question, I am currently running the CM9 Alpha version and am loving it. It has been my daily driver for quite some time and I would definitely recommend using this ROM.
All of your questions can be found in the captivate forums. You'll have to read a lot but it's better to read more so you know what you're getting yourself in to.
Hi All,
Any of you folks with extreme ORD tried many of the different ICS froms yet?
- a very silly question I'm sure! -
I have been following with building anticipation since the leak, but since the Fiscall Year was coming to a close at work I didn't dare begin experimenting for fear of getting sidetracked and losing what little sleep time I had left.
I would really like to hear the pros and cons of some of the various flavours of ICS now available in the "Skyrocket's One Stop Shop for All Things ICS 4.0!" http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1573218 thread...
I'm on Rogers, and am especially interested in things like best radio for sound quality and LTE txfer speeds (there are only 2 so far right?), and what apps specifically are removed from the "debloat" versions... I obviously have zero need for ATT apps, but some of the Samsung bloatware might still be useful to me. Can TW be tossed out and replaced just as easily as with GB? I've been pleased with ADW EX, and would probably stick with it unless there's something more ICSish with as much functionality?
Of course I (and others I'm sure) would love to hear anything you have to offer about speed, interface, quality, bugs, workarounds, etc... I have tried to piece it together from the various ROM threads, but first hand comparisons between the ROMS don't seem to be there.
If there's another compare and contrast thread I apologize, but I did in fact search for "Pros and Cons", and "Rom Differences", and "ICS Comparison", but didn't come up with anything Skyrocket except GB stuff.
Thanks in advance for any comparisons you folks have to offer up.
Jamie
I would also like to have a short list of pros and cons for each
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1st attempt
Well there were no takers to post their experiences, so I figured I'd go ahead and start logging my own attempts...
Tried Silver's ROM collectiveics.zip first because it looked to be the easiest and least risky but no joy for me.
I backed everything up and flashed as per the instructions and got a boot loop.
Used recovery to wipe but still no success.
Restored my original stock Rogers GB ROM.
Then tried again with his themed version (collectiveics3.zip) but had exactly the same experience but this time also tried flashing ics kernal when the boot loop happened... no change.
Restored again.
I reported it in the appropriate thread and see that a few others have the same issue... Silver asked for ROM, and CWM version to try and isolate a common issue. I see others having the problem have also responded.
I was using CWM version 5.0.2.7 and from what I can see, so were others... I flashed a different CWM ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1472954 ) this morning and will try flashing Silver again after work. If it still doesn't work, I will move on to a different ROM and report the experience back here again. (I WILL tell you if it worked too of course)
Jamie
I have tried several of the ICS roms thus far, and the only one that I have had zero problems with has been the MHX Superlite 4.2. I really liked the look of the Nexusmod ICS rom, and the trebuchet launcher included, but it was a bit buggy and I could never get fix permissions to run, either. I have noticed that every time I flash a rom now, it takes a bit longer than the time before for the phone to settle after the initial boot.
my understanding is thus.
(there is no harm flashing nandroids back forth)
so long got nandroid no problem from there..
Best gb rom. QuickWiz never updated.
2nd best gb rom silver (for looks alone lol)
Going try mx gb rom next
WHEN ics roms are considered my understanding is this. There not up to par for a daily driver yet. Sure they work but your going to have a problem with something. Now I never tried one but off of what others say your going to have issues with at least one part of it so I say why bother? Wait a bit longer for them to stabalize. Im going try gb mx rom think going be the one I want.
Sucks though I love the theme on silver.... guess could stick to it. Im ocd about roms I want them perfect
I've been using mhx's ICS Superlite 4.2 for a few days now. It's stable enough for daily use, in my opinion. I've not experienced any of the common problems listed in mhx's thread (shutdown stick, FC's, TB not restoring), everything's working perfectly. The only problem I had was caller ID not showing, but that was easily fixed by flashing another radio. So far my Skyrocket is running smoothly and I'll probably stick with mhx's ROMs from now on.
One thing I think is very important that a lot of people overlook when flashing - USE DARKSIDE SUPER WIPE! Whether you're going from GB to ICS or simplying upgrading from existing ICS, as long as it's a full-wipe ROM, Darkside it. I've been able to escape a lot of common FC problems by doing so.
whatlobster said:
I've been using mhx's ICS Superlite 4.2 for a few days now. It's stable enough for daily use, in my opinion. I've not experienced any of the common problems listed in mhx's thread (shutdown stick, FC's, TB not restoring), everything's working perfectly. The only problem I had was caller ID not showing, but that was easily fixed by flashing another radio. So far my Skyrocket is running smoothly and I'll probably stick with mhx's ROMs from now on.
One thing I think is very important that a lot of people overlook when flashing - USE DARKSIDE SUPER WIPE! Whether you're going from GB to ICS or simplying upgrading from existing ICS, as long as it's a full-wipe ROM, Darkside it. I've been able to escape a lot of common FC problems by doing so.
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I've held off so far on ICS but i think I'll get my feet wet this weekend. Strange you recommend darkside wipe. I'm certain Silver said not to darkside wipe for his ICS rom. There does seem to be a disconnect between some of the instructions and results people are having thus . I guess this is to be expected at this point.
I "darkside wipe" religeouslybefore every full wipe rom flash and never experience the fc's (@least not from leftover data).
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I have flashed the following three ics roms on my rogers i727r and here were my results (They may vary and be different from yours this is just MY experience)
1. Nexus ICS Beta 3
Pros:
-Beautiful themeing done by M0D
-Very stable and dependable as dd
Cons:
-Battery Life was not so great for me
2. SuperLite 4.2
Pros:
-Stable and reliable
-Strong ROM support by mhx
-Great battery life
Cons:
-Not AOSP feelish like other roms (you can always flash a theme and be happy though )
3. SensatioN
Pros:
-Fast!
-Strong dev and theme support by the pair
-Quick response to questions and concerns
Cons:
-I am not much for the theme right now (waiting for wail01x to drop his next beta)
-Full of bloat off the start takes some heavy removal (my opinion)
Thats it for me so far will report later after i feed the addiction of ORD
can you flash any theme to any rom
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Try using cwm touch for flashing.
I'm on nexus ics and it looks great. No real major bugs so I'm using it as a daily driver. I can't comment on battery life yet but I will once I cycle a few times. Doesn't seem as snappy as gb roms though.
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bacheezy said:
I "darkside wipe" religeouslybefore every full wipe rom flash and never experience the fc's (@least not from leftover data).
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I also do this religiously and have had great luck with it. However, it never fixed the nexus ICS install for me, and I tried flashing it several times on a couple of download tries with issues.
I've upgraded to MHX 4.3 today, and it seems to be great as a daily driver. It's smooth, fast, and tiny. Apex launcher is nice, too.
Update
Flashed the latest Odin version of CWM, and as I type, I've got a full backup going for archive to my PC so I can try the MHX Superlite 4.5 ('cause it's a full wipe flash)
I will report back the results in a bit but had to do something while I wait for the backup...
IF it works OK my next step will be the UCLC5 modem... Wish me luck ;-)
Jamie
Well... So far so good. Flash went well and in the process of restoring apps... Liked Silver's theme but MHX seems more stable so far... Will edit again when the apps are working...
Arrrgh
UCALC5 modem seems to have increased my reception at the cost of useability... LONG pauses between every screen change... going to flash is again and if it doesn't settle in I'll either go back to 4 or erstore GB again... have to drive a thousand km tomorrow and can't have an "iffy" phone.
mx gb super light amazing.
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Working ICS
I could not make things work with the UCALC5 modem. It just wouldn't play nice with any ROM I flashed... Superlight was working but the modem killed it... reflashed the UCALC4 modem and then flashed the collective ROM and I have a working ICS phone Had to get a TiBu update to get my apps back because the one in the ROM is broken but now my apps are restored and all is right with the world (but I need to get used to Apex I think... and set it all up... Anxiously awaiting his updated one.
Aargh... Should have installed most of the apps from the market... acore keeps FCing on me again now. I suspect it's got something to do with the data restore... Thought I was careful about what I let it restore but I must have let something slip through that it doesn't like... sure is tough to sign on to the market to try and update Apex when your keyboard keeps dissapearing before you have your gmail password typed. :-(
most roms doesnt have battery roms. and the ones that do, (ICS), have the shutdown/reboot issue.
I've tried all of the different ICS roms available to us as of today. I'm really beginning to think that even following install directions to the letter will still give varied results for different people. Probably many small factors that cause this to happen. I've personally had many issues with lag and freezing of user and system apps, even after multiple installs with multiple wipes on each ROM. The only ROM so far that has been the most problem free is the Superlite ROM in my experience. I'm two days on it now and not had even one single bit of lag and zero freezing. I can't say any of the other ICS roms have had the same solid results as this.
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Yah I have wanted to root and flash an ICS ROM for my Rogers i727R lately but none seem stable enough that I would be happy with the results. I will prolly wait for the OTA ICS update from Rogers . God knows when that will be. Then i will root seems like the best bet at this point
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Yah I have wanted to root and flash an ICS ROM for my Rogers i727R lately but none seem stable enough that I would be happy with the results. I will prolly wait for the OTA ICS update from Rogers . God knows when that will be. Then i will root seems like the best bet at this point
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Check last post date in the future bud. Anything past a week or so is frowned up, as afterwards its considered a dead thread. Exceptions being stickies
Hello, I finally got my wife to agree to let me root and put a custom rom on her infuse, currently running froyo. I just rooted it last night and was looking around for some stable ICS roms. I found lots of discussions about which roms were best but had a somewhat more difficult time finding the links to said roms. And stability is a must here as she knows absolutely nothing about messing around with phones. Also GPS and Bluetooth are absolute musts as well. She finally agreed to let me do this after seeing galaxy s2 running CM9. So I was kinda leaning towards a cm9 rom, a lot of the ones I saw though listed Bluetooth problems so I was wondering whose cm9 would be best for what I'm looking for here. That being said I am open to all stable ICS roms, not just tunnel visioned on cm9. So, if you all give me some good stable ICS rom, and their links, I would be very grateful. Thanks!
Cm9: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1601844
Uni-yuma-porn: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1643886
RemICS-UX: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1705503
Have a look at these. They should have everything you are looking for.
Sent from my sweet & buttery Infuse
Just my 2 cents worth.......been d/l ROMs since GB........the JB ROMs that are out now are more stable than ICS.
Edit: biggest problem is, most of the Devs have moved on to JB.
ICS and jb both have camera recording problems... so jwep that in mind, jb has a slow but working GPS
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ICS and jb both have camera recording problems... so jwep that in mind, jb has a slow but working GPS
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In addition to the above comments. I would also caution you about future wife beatings and crazy ass tandrums if your giving a rooted phone to her. I know your asking about ICS, and some are suggesting Jellybean, however the best thing you can do for her is to put a rooted Gingerbread ROM like the following and just yank out whatever junk you don't want and keep it running smoother then stock!:
- Infused 2.2.3 (Extremely stable ROM that i used as my daily driver without incident for almost a year! Disadvantage is that it is no longer being developed. But really, it doesn't need anything else done to it.. absolutely everything just works!)
- Aeon (This is one of the newer Gingerbread ROM's that is still being updated and mantained. Also a very stable ROM where everything just works. The downside in my opinion is the Themeinig that is build into the ROM. Great for most, but not for everyone.)
Both of the above are excellent choices for a wife! And they are both built off of stock firmware so everything works.
Believe me, i would normally never reccomend someone go back to Gingerbread, but as she is coming from Froyo she will notice a big improvement. Also, from one man to the next. I can tell you, my bigest mistake was replacing my wifes crack berry with my older rooted X10. It was great for me, but for her she just wants things to work. The second something doesn't work, she turns into the hulk! I absolutely love to tinker and i'm never done messing with my phone, but don't assume your wife will appreciate the challenges as much as you would! I ended up just putting it back to bone stock and gave it to her with the understanding that she was not to complain to me anymore! LOL
Oh one last thing.. the saying really is true.. "A happy Wife is a happy Life!" LOL