Hey Guys,
I am new here so please forgive any embarressing newness moments regarding my questions.
I noticed that GTab has at least 4 different Roms that are being actively developed in their own way (big thank you to the devs btw).
I also see there is a post already asking which rom people this is the best.
I dont know if its fair on the devs to say best or not but I was wondering if each rom was developed for a certain purpose in mind?
I mean is one built for better gaming while the other is for better web browsing etc??
Can anyone pls advise suitability of purpose?
I get my GTab soon as i just ordered it and will be changing the rom on it almost immediately. I'm just unsure which on to choose is all.
~BAM~ said:
Hey Guys,
I am new here so please forgive any embarressing newness moments regarding my questions.
I noticed that GTab has at least 4 different Roms that are being actively developed in their own way (big thank you to the devs btw).
I also see there is a post already asking which rom people this is the best.
I dont know if its fair on the devs to say best or not but I was wondering if each rom was developed for a certain purpose in mind?
I mean is one built for better gaming while the other is for better web browsing etc??
Can anyone pls advise suitability of purpose?
I get my GTab soon as i just ordered it and will be changing the rom on it almost immediately. I'm just unsure which on to choose is all.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There is not that much difference between the roms. They are based from different source so they all look a little different. The best thing to do is install clockwork and check them all out and see what is best for you. Install one and run it for awhile then make a backup in clockwork and install another. If you don't like it you can then restore your backup and be back up in about 5 minutes.
I would personally wait on cm7 before installing as it has some weird quirks the others don't. I have nothing against cyanogenmod as I am running cm7 on my droid right now.
~BAM~ said:
Hey Guys,
I am new here so please forgive any embarressing newness moments regarding my questions.
I noticed that GTab has at least 4 different Roms that are being actively developed in their own way (big thank you to the devs btw).
I also see there is a post already asking which rom people this is the best.
I dont know if its fair on the devs to say best or not but I was wondering if each rom was developed for a certain purpose in mind?
I mean is one built for better gaming while the other is for better web browsing etc??
Can anyone pls advise suitability of purpose?
I get my GTab soon as i just ordered it and will be changing the rom on it almost immediately. I'm just unsure which on to choose is all.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
None of them is really better at any one thing than the other. It is mostly just user interface differences. TnT Lite is based off of the stock TnT that came on the tablet. Zpad is based off of the rom made for the Zpad. vegaN is based from the rom for the Advent Vega, and Cyanogenmod is based off of... Well, Cyanogenmod.
The GTab, and the Zpad are like brothers. Both made by Malata, and are almost the same thing. The Advent Vega uses similar hardware to us as well.
My personal favorite is vegaN but really only because I don't like the upper notification bar in TnT. Zpad is another one I like for the same reason.
For just starting out I would go with either TnTLite, or vegaN as they are the most popular, and most supported.
Can't really go wrong with any of them and I play with them all. Like said before I would stay away from the Cyanogenmod rom unless you are a techie. It works well, but it has a different way of mapping memory and some other differences that can get you into trouble.
Easiest to get answers to questions are TnTLite, or vegaN...
Thanks for the quick response guys!
I cant wait till my Gtab arrives!
First, my phone info as reported by Settings/About Phone:
Model: Samsung-SGH-I897
Firmware: 2.1-update1
Baseband: I897UCJH7
Kernel: 2.6.29 [email protected] #2
Build Number: ECLAIR.UCJH7
I have visited the ROM section and I probably dont need to tell you that it is just a little bit confusing (for me anyway)as to which ROM to use.
I would like to flash a new ROM to bring me up to FroYo and I "think" I want to use the Andromeda ROM. I have a couple of questions though.
First, (for the Devs) should I go ahead and flash to FroYo or wait for am Android 3.0 ROM (assuming one is forthcoming)?
Second, is the difference between the "themed" and "un-themed" ROM just cosmetic? Do they both function the same?
There are a few "how to" threads on flashing. They are very detailed and take you step by step. I'd suggest you read or watch the videos.
The questions about Andromeda are well covered in the thread. You just need to read through it. Flashing now or waiting is purely up to you. There's not a GB ROM that's stable enough to run day to day. There's only one that I know of and they are still working a lot of problems out of it.
Thank you.
TayzGpa said:
Second, is the difference between the "themed" and "un-themed" ROM just cosmetic? Do they both function the same?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yep, just prettier (in some cases that is).
I'm really looking for a ROM that is as close to "stock" Froyo as possible that will work well with my U.S. phone. I understand Cognition is built on the just released Rogers build, but should I use a Canadian build on my U.S. phone?
I'm using Cognition and find it really nice. No Canadian phrases coming out of it.
If you are going to flash your first rom make sure you read through the forums and figure your what you need to do. Everything that you need are in them. I just flashed my first rom this weekend. Forums are very helpful!!
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897. Using Cognition, Firebird, and JL2 modem.
TayzGpa said:
I'm really looking for a ROM that is as close to "stock" Froyo as possible that will work well with my U.S. phone. I understand Cognition is built on the just released Rogers build, but should I use a Canadian build on my U.S. phone?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I live in Canada and use an American captivate using the cognition ROM and it works just fine.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897
Serendipity 5.x is by far the best Captivate ROM out there, in my opinion. Fast, clean, stable, bloat-free, and tastefully themed.
I just flashed the un-themed version of Andromeda, needless to say I was and am still very pleased with it. It was my first time flashing a ROM and went very smoothly, I guess I just got sick of AT&T jerking around.
I might make a quick video comparing Andromeda 1.0 on the captivate to a stock captivate (my bro's). That is if there is any interest in one.
Btw does any one know when the over clocked kernels will be released, I'm pretty anxious to try them out.
How do you like Andromeda? I started with cognition, then used phoenix for a while and liked both of them. I switched to serendipity last week and it has been rock solid to be honest, but I am always wanting to tinker with this thing. I flashed the KNP1 modem today to see if I get the better data speeds people are reporting and am hoping to gain a little battery life.
I guess everybody has thier own favorite ROM. I am kind of leaning toward either Cognition or Phoenix but cant decide which one. I want as close to "stock" 2.2 (or 2.3) as possible and it looks like Cognition might be the way to go. I have read through the Cognition Wiki and cant determine which flavor of Android (2.2/2.3) Cognition 3.04 is based on (unless I missed it). Anyone know?
TayzGpa said:
I have read through the Cognition Wiki and cant determine which flavor of Android (2.2/2.3) Cognition 3.04 is based on (unless I missed it). Anyone know?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
2.2
10char
There are some videos on you tube that walk you trough the flashing process that I found to be really helpful for my first flash. I also had a written walk thru up from this site. I had no problems with my first using these 2 restorers. Good luck. And andromeda looks very cool. There are also rom reviews on you tube that show you what the rom does. Good luck
Sent from my SGH-I897 using XDA App
jferg5 said:
There are some videos on you tube that walk you trough the flashing process that I found to be really helpful for my first flash. I also had a written walk thru up from this site. I had no problems with my first using these 2 restorers. Good luck. And andromeda looks very cool. There are also rom reviews on you tube that show you what the rom does. Good luck
Sent from my SGH-I897 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877652
If you haven't already please read through the guide in my sig.
ademarne said:
If you haven't already please read through the guide in my sig.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I read through the guide "Guide for choosing the right rom for YOU" that you link to in your sig; and i see nothing about choosing the right ROM For me.
The title suggests that there is a guide to choosing a ROM - maybe a matrix of features, or a questions list to help someone decide. Instead the closest thing i find is one sentence "Go to the Android Development Section and read through different [ROM] threads to see what features will work best for you. I have also found it useful to read through the last couple of pages to see what other users think about the current version of the rom"
Did i miss something? Where is the guide to choosing the right ROM for me?
alphadog00 said:
I read through the guide "Guide for choosing the right rom for YOU" that you link to in your sig; and i see nothing about choosing the right ROM For me.
The title suggests that there is a guide to choosing a ROM - maybe a matrix of features, or a questions list to help someone decide. Instead the closest thing i find is one sentence "Go to the Android Development Section and read through different [ROM] threads to see what features will work best for you. I have also found it useful to read through the last couple of pages to see what other users think about the current version of the rom"
Did i miss something? Where is the guide to choosing the right ROM for me?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I agree. Something like "answer these 20 questions and here's the ROM that most matches what you want" would be great. I am still trying to figure it out.
What I am looking for is, if AT&T (or Samsung for that matter) were to finally release FroYo, here is what it would most likely look like and how it would probably perform. I'm still thinking Cognition is the closest since it was based on the Canadian FroYo release but *MAN* can it be confusing.
alphadog00 said:
I read through the guide "Guide for choosing the right rom for YOU" that you link to in your sig; and i see nothing about choosing the right ROM For me.
The title suggests that there is a guide to choosing a ROM - maybe a matrix of features, or a questions list to help someone decide. Instead the closest thing i find is one sentence "Go to the Android Development Section and read through different [ROM] threads to see what features will work best for you. I have also found it useful to read through the last couple of pages to see what other users think about the current version of the rom"
Did i miss something? Where is the guide to choosing the right ROM for me?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The point of that is so that you figure out what is best for you, not that I am telling you what to do. I am simply trying to GUIDE new users on how to go about making informed decisions on which ROM they choose. Too many people rely solely on what others say instead of trying things for themselves, which is why I created that post encouraging people to discover new things.
If you have questions about a certain rom, post in the ROM thread in the dev section. If you don't have 10 posts yet and still have questions, then post in the Q&A section, not captivate general.
What I don't think new users understand is that almost every person has a different preference about what ROM, kernel and modem combo work best. Me personally, I love di11igafs ROMs, but many other people prefer different things. Its pretty much like asking a group of random people, "what is the best car on the market and what options would get with said car?" Almost everyones answer will vary slightly.
TayzGpa said:
I agree. Something like "answer these 20 questions and here's the ROM that most matches what you want" would be great. I am still trying to figure it out.
What I am looking for is, if AT&T (or Samsung for that matter) were to finally release FroYo, here is what it would most likely look like and how it would probably perform. I'm still thinking Cognition is the closest since it was based on the Canadian FroYo release but *MAN* can it be confusing.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Like you, I recently started trying to figure this out after getting an AT&T Captivate and I agree about the need for a better listing for features (or lack of) for each ROM. A good matrix to compare would be nice, but I fear there are so many people working on these things and it all moves so fast, it would be a full-time job just to keep it up. Reading through all this stuff is quite overwhelming. However, I honestly think it's not bad once you figure out the basics and understand the ropes. By the time you get the things to load on your phone, with Clockworkmod Recovery, Odin and some other tools, life is pretty simple--the devs have done all the hard work, you're just flashing the stuff and figuring out what you like best.
Here is what I can tell you that may help and like I said, I'm pretty new at this, so someone *please* correct me if I'm wrong. I would not want to mislead anyone:
1. Cognition is an "Americanized" version of the Rogers 2.2 Captivate release. If you want 2.2.1 you have to use another custom ROM. Everything with Cognition appears to be well done, stable and smooth. I spent a couple hours trying to get wireless tether to work only to figure out MobileAP is built in and works
2. Look up the videos on YouTube by MobileTechVideos. They are very good and well produced, plus he looks at all the different ROMs. There is a 3-part video on loading Cognition on a captivate. I used it to load 3.04 on mine in almost real time right with the video. The only thing I would caution you on is if you use Titanium Backup to restore apps, be careful about "select all" like he says you can do in the video. I'm not sure if I had backed up system data and accidentally restored it or what--didn't go back that far to check, but after I did my restore I thought everything was fine and I could not make outgoing calls the next day. I reloaded from scratch following the videos again and this time use TB to restore one app+data at a time and was very picky about what I did and it worked wonderfully.
3. Once I got everything working I started to get curious about kernels. Once you have your ROM loaded, you can flash a new kernel (has to be same version as the ROM) and you can get enhancements with speed and other things by doing so. However, I loaded Firebird and did not notice in the thread that Bluetooth doesn't work yet, so I'm trying to figure out if I can go back or if I have to start over. Not a big deal to start over since I know what I'm doing now, just want to push the limits a little cause that's how I roll For some reason after Firebird I also seen duplicate photos on my SD card, even though there were only singles. It's like thumbnails were duplicated or something. I moved the pics off to my PC and it left blank thumbnails behind. I deleted them from the gallery and put the pics back and everything cleared up. I've seen stranger things--no biggie.
4. Battery life was fairly bad at this point, dropping 10-15% or more per hour. My phone came with the JH7 modem (last digits of your Baseband version in Settings -- About Phone). Cognition 3.04 comes with JL1 and many others were reporting great battery life with JL2 so I flashed it and everything seems to be much better so far. I haven't reset the battery stats and such, but I will at some point. Looks like a lengthy process that may or may not help.
5. I see a lot of "do I have to flash to stock first" questions posted and from what I understand, it's best practice to follow the instructions and don't ask why--just do it. Learn how to backup and restore apps+data (not system data) using TB and it's no big deal.
6. I read a lot about different builds of the Captivate--lots of posts about 1006, 1007, 1008's so I was concerned about the issues discussed. I'm guessing these were the early releases. I got mine at the end of January and it's a 1012. Look under your battery right under the serial number.
I suppose once I have this part of it working well and figured out, I will probably start looking into themes and digging deeper. It's pretty addictive so once you start, you just keep wanting more and more and making it better and better. Thanks to all the devs out there. I plan on making a few donations soon, especially to Designgears since his stuff is mostly what I've worked with so far.
My advice is to take a day or two and read *A LOT*. The old carpenters saying is "Measure twice and cut once" and that is pretty much how I look at this stuff. After you figure out how the puzzle pieces fit together, you lose the fear.
Hope this helps and if I would appreciate it if someone more advanced can confirm my statements or correct me.
First off, hi!
While I am not new to xda at all, I am new to this phone. I've only recently picked it up because I had the chance to get it for cheap.
I've been reading the entire G2x forums for more information and whatnot and I have a few questions.
I've heard very good things since the GB update, so is this phone worth keeping and all? It's almost completely stock, so I'd imagine updating to the latest wouldn't be too difficult to manage and would definitely be a plus.
Next, how is the development on this phone? I only noticed a few ROMs in the Dev section and it looks as if it's moving along slowly. I've rooted and flashed many a ROMs on many of my previous phones and after learning a lot, it's hard to keep anything stock anymore.
Also, anything else I should know, as well?
Thanks ahead of time for all of the replies.
Good day!
This phone is definately worth keeping. Yes the development is a little slow at the moment, but there are plenty of good roms to play around with in the meantime until some new codes start leaking & then it will pick up again. I would suggest giving Weapon 3.0 a try, great rom for me. I guess it all depends on what your taste in roms are.
I would say its a definite keeper. There are a few roms in the dev section that are very good. Im currently on Weapon 3.0 but the cm7 nightlies work great too.
Hi all, I'm hoping to tap into your superior knowledge here...
I'm currently running the AEON ROM and I am pleased with it so far, it's stable and responsive, but I was hoping for better battery life.
Anyway, now that I've been bitten by the custom ROM bug, I'm thinking of trying a JB ROM, but I have some questions.
I'm looking for a stable(obviously) ROM with working bluetooth and gps and good battery life. The gps is a must as my gf and I are into geocaching, but the BT won't be a deal breaker. Is JB really worth flashing?
Here's some ROM's I'm looking at:
Paranoid Android -- but I don't believe gps works with this ROM, I can't really determine that from the thread
Unofficial CM10
LiquidSmooth
SlimBean
Any advice would be greatly appreciated. And one last question: Is it necessary to flash ICS before going to a JB ROM or can I flash directly? I've searched for an answer to this and I can't seem to find a consensus.
Thanks ahead of time
P.S. If you think I'll be better off staying with a GB rom, I'll take recommendations for an AEON alternative.
M
All the JB roms you mentioned are excellent, it always comes down to personal preference.
Perhaps more important is to be sure you understand the process of going from GB to JB. There are many threads on this subject and it will be more than worth your time to read up before jumping.
Let me start by appoligizing, I am a newbie to ROM's etc. I did a search but all results I was getting were 2+ yrs old. I want a Nexus phone, althought tied to verizon, due to company! I am looking for a way to get that total vanilla experience on a verizon galaxy s3. I have looked at the super nexus 2.0 rom but doesn't seem to be compatible with verizon, unless I am missing something. I am looking for a Vanilla ROM, in which everything works, phone, camera etc...
Can anyone direct me to a rom that might fit this bill? Thanks in advance, and I'm sorry if this has already been discussed to death, but a search revealed 2011 era posts.
asu93 said:
Let me start by appoligizing, I am a newbie to ROM's etc. I did a search but all results I was getting were 2+ yrs old. I want a Nexus phone, althought tied to verizon, due to company! I am looking for a way to get that total vanilla experience on a verizon galaxy s3. I have looked at the super nexus 2.0 rom but doesn't seem to be compatible with verizon, unless I am missing something. I am looking for a Vanilla ROM, in which everything works, phone, camera etc...
Can anyone direct me to a rom that might fit this bill? Thanks in advance, and I'm sorry if this has already been discussed to death, but a search revealed 2011 era posts.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Check out the ROMs in the original android development section here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1692
You're most likely going to want to look at CM 10.1 or the Pure Google AOSP ROM
I'm a fan of AOKP, which provides a great vanilla experience with some extra options. I like the options better than CyanogenMod.
Cauchon said:
I'm a fan of AOKP, which provides a great vanilla experience with some extra options. I like the options better than CyanogenMod.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thank you both, being that I'm totally new to ROMs can you recommend a ROM?
I highly recommend AOKP. Its my daily driver. Rock solid for me with leankernel
Sent from my SCH-i535 with Tapatalk 2
If I've helped, please hit the thanks button
Welcome to the forum. I suggest you read the stickies in the root section and then root your phone.
For AOSP rom I can recommend both SlimBeans and LiquidSmooth as well.
You will find all the AOSP roms are very very similar of course, some are more later or stable but it can depend a lot on the kernel and your phone.
ECrispy said:
Welcome to the forum. I suggest you read the stickies in the root section and then root your phone.
For AOSP rom I can recommend both SlimBeans and LiquidSmooth as well.
You will find all the AOSP roms are very very similar of course, some are more later or stable but it can depend a lot on the kernel and your phone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I tried LiquidSmooth and liked it a lot. I wasn't able to get GPS working so I switched to AOKP.