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Does root stop official ROM installation?

I want to root my 2.3.6 i9023 but I am not 100% sure of what the repercussions of this will be, can someone please confirm:
-As per the tutorial for i9023, I must unlock the bootloader which will wipe all my apps and SD card data?
-Is there a way to root without installing CWM? I really just want root access on the stock ROM and at this moment in time, don't need CWM.
--EG: Can I unlock the bootloader and then reboot into the stock ROM and install Superuser from the Market?
-When I unlock the bootloader, does that wipe the stock ROM off the phone as well or is it just the data?
-Once rooted, I will no longer get OTA notifications of updates, but I can install manually the official update package?
--Once the stock ROM is rooted, can I still use the Nexus stock recovery to flash official ROM updates or will I need CWM?
I have rooted a phone before and I know what I'm doing with custom ROMs but the Nexus S seems to have different procedures.
Cheers!

Yes. You have to unroot so that OTA update can be installed.
Go to "Nexus S General" and find section "All OTA ROMs".

TheManicGibbon said:
-As per the tutorial for i9023, I must unlock the bootloader which will wipe all my apps and SD card data?
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Yep.
TheManicGibbon said:
-Is there a way to root without installing CWM? I really just want root access on the stock ROM and at this moment in time, don't need CWM.
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Yes, you can root without actually installing CWM. You can use the command fastboot boot recovery.img to temporarily boot into CWM instead of fastboot flash recovery recovery.img that will replace the stock recovery with CWM.
TheManicGibbon said:
--EG: Can I unlock the bootloader and then reboot into the stock ROM and install Superuser from the Market?
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No, the su binary needs to be installed as system app. So it's easiest to flash it via CWM.
TheManicGibbon said:
-When I unlock the bootloader, does that wipe the stock ROM off the phone as well or is it just the data?
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Just the data.
TheManicGibbon said:
-Once rooted, I will no longer get OTA notifications of updates, but I can install manually the official update package?
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I believe you will still get the notification. However, the update process won't work if you don't have stock recovery.
TheManicGibbon said:
--Once the stock ROM is rooted, can I still use the Nexus stock recovery to flash official ROM updates or will I need CWM?
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The official full OTA can be flashed via either stock or CWM recovery.

Thanks for that comprehensive reply
While researching, I have since found this which is confirmed working with the i9023 on 2.3.6. What I'm wondering is, how does it root without wiping all your data (it doesn't appear to unlock the bootloader)
Finally, if I have rooted stock 2.3.6 with the stock recovery, I will have to unroot (using this method I presume) and then I can flash the OTA ICS update whenever it comes through the stock recovery, correct?

TheManicGibbon said:
While researching, I have since found this which is confirmed working with the i9023 on 2.3.6. What I'm wondering is, how does it root without wiping all your data (it doesn't appear to unlock the bootloader)
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I guess the script uses an exploit in the firmware to temporarily gain root access and copy the necessary files into the system partition.
TheManicGibbon said:
Finally, if I have rooted stock 2.3.6 with the stock recovery, I will have to unroot (using this method I presume) and then I can flash the OTA ICS update whenever it comes through the stock recovery, correct?
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You can just flash the full OTA. The phone will be unrooted and recovery will be reverted back to stock.

Thanks again, brilliant info!

[HOW-TO] Revert to Stock ROM JB for user with new HBOOT

Hi to All,
I want to share my experience about revert to stock for users that have new HBOOT, unlocked bootloader and custom recovery; can't execute official RUU. ( This method i think is more safe that downgrade HBOOT )
Step ONE:
Install this custom ROM: MaximuS ROM ( read the thread for instruction about installation of this ROM )
( this ROM allow you to receive the message of OTA JB update, if you know another ROM that receive this message you can use as well i think )
Step TWO:
install the stock recovery of HTC One S via fastboot ( after flashing recovery erase cache )
Step THREE:
Reboot your phone in system, configure the rom for first use, go to settings, information, software update and press check now for update.
You'll receive the message for an update, download and install, and now you have stock JB ROM. after reboot you can do a reset ( go to setting => backup and restore ) to clean the application migrated from previous ROM ( MaximuS )
I hope this can help someone else.
p.s. Sorry for my English!

Thanks bro for this, but my problem is not resolved because this rom couldn't install on my HTC One S, i dont know why... Log show me: MD5 files not found

CybulPL said:
Thanks bro for this, but my problem is not resolved because this rom couldn't install on my HTC One S, i dont know why... Log show me: MD5 files not found
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Witch recovery are you using at the moment? I installed this ROM ( MaximuS ) with Team Win Recovery ( TWRP ) v2.3.3.0 and it's works for me.
( after flashing ROM from recovery remember to flash boot.img by fastboot )

Maverick87Shaka said:
Witch recovery are you using at the moment? I installed this ROM ( MaximuS ) with Team Win Recovery ( TWRP ) v2.3.3.0 and it's works for me.
( after flashing ROM from recovery remember to flash boot.img by fastboot )
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I use TWRP and CWM and the same. My mate told me that i have unmount 1 and 2 partition in recovery but i don't know how.

Hi everyone,
thanks a lot, this saved my ass ... I had upgraded my stock ICS to stock JB and then tried to go back to stock ICS with a CWM backup - with the result that I had a brick booting only to a black screen.
I still had access to CWM recovery and so could install the Maximus 2.5 ROM and also the update to stock JB ran through just fine.
I did a factory reset afterwards, is it 100% sure that I now have a pure stock JB or could there be some leftovers from the Maximus 2.5 ROM?
Cheers,
Tim

tim_h said:
Hi everyone,
I still had access to CWM recovery and so could install the Maximus 2.5 ROM and also the update to stock JB ran through just fine.
I did a factory reset afterwards, is it 100% sure that I now have a pure stock JB or could there be some leftovers from the Maximus 2.5 ROM?
Cheers,
Tim
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Yes you have a stock JB, because with factory reset you've removed all extra application that there is inside MaximuS v.2.5.
All other unneeded file or executable ( like root executable and all other script in /system ect. ) was removed during installation of new ROM.
Remember just that you need to revert to stock to give your phone back to HTC for guarantee, I thinks you must leave on it the stock recovery.
tim_h said:
Hi everyone,
thanks a lot, this saved my ass ... I had upgraded my stock ICS to stock JB and then tried to go back to stock ICS with a CWM backup - with the result that I had a brick booting only to a black screen.
Cheers,
Tim
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It's happened because from recovery the system was unable to flash the boot partition. So after you did the CWM restore, you have all the phone with ICS android, but JB kernel, this cause your black screen after boot!!!
If you have the boot.img ( with suitable kernel of your old ROM ) to flash after you did the CWM recovery, you can get back to your BACKUP without any problem.
Also if you don't have the exactly boot.img of your previous ROM of the backup, you can flash any boot.img by fastboot of ICS kernel and this is should be enough to keep your backup running again.

Thanks very much for the additional explanations. I do have the boot.img of my original CWM backup, so should be able to restore it via fastboot. Great!
But first I have to send in my phone to have the USB port fixed under warranty.

Holy ****, is working, thanks man...

zujko said:
Wait to see if i understood, i have now Custom ( Virtuous Ville+ RC-1) JB ROM, with hboot 2.15.0000... unlocked, root, twrp
1.install maximuS V2.5, wipe..
2. flash boot.img with fastboot
3.Check update for JB, and flash new update JB?
And that's it?
I guess we have to make relock bootloader, after flash ICS?
Tnx
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You just forgot in the list to install the HTC Stock recovery before check the message of update, so:
1 => Wipe and install MaximuS V2.5 ROM
2 => flash with fastboot boot.img of MaximuS V2.5 ROM
3 => flash stock HTC Recovery via fastboot ( fastboot flash recovery ville_recovery_signed.img , then fastboot erase cache ) or get it from One_S_All-In-One_Kit_v1.0
4 => start the phone and check for the JB update
5 => after JB installation do a factory reset to clean up the ROM from the extra application that MaximuS ROM have.
You don't need to relock your bootloader, you just need to install the stock recovery, that's enough.

Hmm, wait, why need install stock recovery?
This JB will be working with custom twrp?
EDIT: I got it

I did it! I unmounted first 3 partitions in TWRP and installation successful.

I am on stock Rom now and used HTC offical update to get to jb...do u think I will have trouble rooting again?
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k1llacanon said:
I am on stock Rom now and used HTC offical update to get to jb...do u think I will have trouble rooting again?
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I will let you know if I can get it working and flashed it will be rooted in seconds just need stock recovery.

Rooted without a problem, recommend the attached superuser app.

Maverick87Shaka said:
You just forgot in the list to install the HTC Stock recovery before check the message of update, so:
1 => Wipe and install MaximuS V2.5 ROM
2 => flash with fastboot boot.img of MaximuS V2.5 ROM
3 => flash stock HTC Recovery via fastboot ( fastboot flash recovery ville_recovery_signed.img , then fastboot erase cache ) or get it from One_S_All-In-One_Kit_v1.0
4 => start the phone and check for the JB update
5 => after JB installation do a factory reset to clean up the ROM from the extra application that MaximuS ROM have.
You don't need to relock your bootloader, you just need to install the stock recovery, that's enough.
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Will this work on a T-Mobile HOS with CID HTC__001?
I have followed all the steps from above
- installed the rom
- installed the stock recovery
- then I was able to start the update but when it finished downloading .. I was told that the HTC software on my device has been modified and please revert back and try the update again and it would not preform the update.
What am I doing wrong?
Thanks in Advance

Hi once more,
after going back to pure stock JB this way, can I relock the bootloader to get "RELOCKED" instead of "UNLOCKED/TAMPERED"? (That would be good for sending in my phone under warranty.) Or will the phone stop booting if I relock the bootloader?
As far as I understood, the "canonical" way to get "RELOCKED" would be to lock the bootloader and install the RUU, but since there is no RUU for the unbranded JB yet and downgrading with an older RUU is not possible, I cannot do this.
Cheers,
Tim

tim_h said:
Hi once more,
after going back to pure stock JB this way, can I relock the bootloader to get "RELOCKED" instead of "UNLOCKED/TAMPERED"? (That would be good for sending in my phone under warranty.) Or will the phone stop booting if I relock the bootloader?
Cheers,
Tim
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You can do Relock bootloader, i think it will boot to system without problem(?)

blah blah blah said:
Will this work on a T-Mobile HOS with CID HTC__001?
I have followed all the steps from above
- installed the rom
- installed the stock recovery
- then I was able to start the update but when it finished downloading .. I was told that the HTC software on my device has been modified and please revert back and try the update again and it would not preform the update.
What am I doing wrong?
Thanks in Advance
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The only word of caution that I think needs to be shared on almost all threads related to JB updates is to make sure you DO NOT have SuperCID... There have been numerous reports of phones bricking with the OTA JB update with a SuperCID... So if you had previously SuperCID your phone with 11111111, definately change it to something else.

AKToronto said:
The only word of caution that I think needs to be shared on almost all threads related to JB updates is to make sure you DO NOT have SuperCID... There have been numerous reports of phones bricking with the OTA JB update with a SuperCID... So if you had previously SuperCID your phone with 11111111, definately change it to something else.
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I had to go supercid to run the euro ruu and changed it to HTC__001. Ota still didn't work
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[Q] problem flashing ruu jb 3.16

Hi guys
I want to revert my one s to stock rom through RUU_Ville_U_JB_45_S_HTC_Europe_3.16.401.8_Radio_1.11.50.05.28_10.27.50.08L_release_301814_signed_2_4.
befor doing this I had supercid and s-off
After launching ruu ,the process stopped by error 159.
I tried other RUU_Ville_U_ICS_40_S_HTC_Europe_2.31.401.5_Radio_1 .06es.50.02.31_10.09a.50.04L_release_275655_signed
this flashed fine and worked good.
but i wanted JB so i downloaded OTA_Ville_U_JB_45_S_HTC_Europe_3.16.401.8_1.11.50.05.28_10.27.50.08L_release_301852xf01hejl416oev96
and flashed it by CWM
but in the cwm enviroment , process stopped saying cid check failed....(and a couple of cid es)
So I changed my CID to stock (HTC_203) and I went through all above steps againe but same errors......
I don't know where the problem is??

salar_bigharar2009 said:
Hi guys
I want to revert my one s to stock rom through RUU_Ville_U_JB_45_S_HTC_Europe_3.16.401.8_Radio_1.11.50.05.28_10.27.50.08L_release_301814_signed_2_4.
befor doing this I had supercid and s-off
After launching ruu ,the process stopped by error 159.
I tried other RUU_Ville_U_ICS_40_S_HTC_Europe_2.31.401.5_Radio_1 .06es.50.02.31_10.09a.50.04L_release_275655_signed
this flashed fine and worked good.
but i wanted JB so i downloaded OTA_Ville_U_JB_45_S_HTC_Europe_3.16.401.8_1.11.50.05.28_10.27.50.08L_release_301852xf01hejl416oev96
and flashed it by CWM
but in the cwm enviroment , process stopped saying cid check failed....(and a couple of cid es)
So I changed my CID to stock (HTC_203) and I went through all above steps againe but same errors......
I don't know where the problem is??
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hm.. which hboot do you have?
try to run the ics ruu again, after this you have stock ics rom right? do a factory reset and be sure that you have flashed the stock recovery.
then apply the ota update and install it the normal way.
I'm not sure if the ota updates are flashable so easily with custom recovery.

NQNH said:
hm.. which hboot do you have?
try to run the ics ruu again, after this you have stock ics rom right? do a factory reset and be sure that you have flashed the stock recovery.
then apply the ota update and install it the normal way.
I'm not sure if the ota updates are flashable so easily with custom recovery.
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Yes ...I have ICS now....
sorry but what do you mean by normal way....
shoud I flash stock recovery separately?
what is the normal way of installing ota?
I thought that the usual way is using CWM.

salar_bigharar2009 said:
Yes ...I have ICS now....
sorry but what do you mean by normal way....
shoud I flash stock recovery separately?
what is the normal way of installing ota?
I thought that the usual way is using CWM.
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hm..
the normal would be (if everything is stock)
boot your phone, search for updates, download update, apply update and the rest is an automatically process.
as far as I know you only have to be on stock recovery to be able to install the ota.
so, flash the stock recovery
https://www.dropbox.com/s/btmsslfgbwegu2k/ville_recovery_signed.img
look for updates again, and after download, tap on "install update" or sth like that.
your phone should restart in recovery mode and install the update.
but you have to be on stock recovery.
give it a try and let me know if this way worked
it should
aaaand I recommend you to do a factory reset after the JB update.
boot your phone after the update to your bootloader and select factory reset.
after this procedure you can flash back your favourite custom recovery and do whatever you want

ojoydro occasions
salar_bigharar2009 said:
Yes ...I have ICS now....
sorry but what do you mean by normal way....
shoud I flash stock recovery separately?
what is the normal way of installing ota?
I thought that the usual way is using CWM.
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And i forgot my hboot is1.14.0002

salar_bigharar2009 said:
And i forgot my hboot is1.14.0002
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oh I forgot.
change your cid to HTC__001
its the regionfree one for EU
should work with the ota

Thank you man .....after running Ics ruu ,i flashed stock recovery and installed ota jb zip from recovery ....(After entering to recovery, holded volum up and power button and the menu displayed)
During this my cid was stock:htc_203
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OTA but keep Root?

Hey im tryinna OTA update my One S its at Android Version 4.0.4 Sense 4.1 and i have an OTA ive had it for a while now. How could i update it and keep my root? Or if i install a higher version custom rom will it brick my phone?
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Br00talBean said:
Hey im tryinna OTA update my One S its at Android Version 4.0.4 Sense 4.1 and i have an OTA ive had it for a while now. How could i update it and keep my root? Or if i install a higher version custom rom will it brick my phone?
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not sure what you mean with your last sentence... but:
in my case the ota deleted my root. but I also recommend to do a factory reset after updating to 4.1 sense 4+, just to be sure that you have a clean jb rom (do titanium backups of your apps you wanna keep).
but you have to be on stock recovery if you want to apply the ota.
after your update you can root your phone again.
applying the ota wont have any effect on flashing a higher / newer custom rom.
you only have to be unlocked and on custom recovery. but you alawys have to flash the boot.img of the custom rom after flashing the custom rom zip.

NQNH said:
not sure what you mean with your last sentence... but:
in my case the ota deleted my root. but I also recommend to do a factory reset after updating to 4.1 sense 4+, just to be sure that you have a clean jb rom (do titanium backups of your apps you wanna keep).
but you have to be on stock recovery if you want to apply the ota.
after your update you can root your phone again.
applying the ota wont have any effect on flashing a higher / newer custom rom.
you only have to be unlocked and on custom recovery. but you alawys have to flash the boot.img of the custom rom after flashing the custom rom zip.
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My bad i wasnt even payin attention to what i was typing and im still pretty much a noob at Root stuff so please bear with me lmao
Lets say i try to flash a 4.2.2. Rom even though im originally at 4.0.4. Would it brick my phone?
So would stock recovery be the stock rom i still hqve after rooting? I havent applied any custom roms at all since ive rooted
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Br00talBean said:
My bad i wasnt even payin attention to what i was typing and im still pretty much a noob at Root stuff so please bear with me lmao
Lets say i try to flash a 4.2.2. Rom even though im originally at 4.0.4. Would it brick my phone?
So would stock recovery be the stock rom i still hqve after rooting? I havent applied any custom roms at all since ive rooted
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the rom you want to flash doesnt care about your previous rom, because you wiped your previous rom.
so it really doesnt matter which rom you have before if you want to flash a new rom.
its like.. you have installed windows xp, then format your hdd and install windows 7, windows 7 doesnt take a --- about the old os
recovery and rom are two different parts.
you can stock recovery and custom rom, you can have custom recovery and custom rom, you can have stock recovery and stock rom.. blaaa

NQNH said:
the rom you want to flash doesnt care about your previous rom, because you wiped your previous rom.
so it really doesnt matter which rom you have before if you want to flash a new rom.
its like.. you have installed windows xp, then format your hdd and install windows 7, windows 7 doesnt take a --- about the old os
recovery and rom are two different parts.
you can stock recovery and custom rom, you can have custom recovery and custom rom, you can have stock recovery and stock rom.. blaaa
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Oooh okay i get what youre saying. Soo recovery and the rom are two different things. I can upgrade to whatever gigher version i want. What about the OTA? If i upgrade to higher version custom rom will the OTA icon go away?
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Br00talBean said:
Oooh okay i get what youre saying. Soo recovery and the rom are two different things. I can upgrade to whatever gigher version i want. What about the OTA? If i upgrade to higher version custom rom will the OTA icon go away?
Sent from my HTC VLE_U
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after u have flashed a custom ROM, you wont get any OTA updates
Well, not from HTC anyways

Seraz007 said:
after u have flashed a custom ROM, you wont get any OTA updates
Well, not from HTC anyways
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Oooooooh okay i get it now wow haha so custom rom updates are the OTA pretty much once its flashed on there?
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Br00talBean said:
Oooooooh okay i get it now wow haha so custom rom updates are the OTA pretty much once its flashed on there?
Sent from my HTC VLE_U
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well no
but u can update and then Root
That way you'll have the OTA radio and hboot and the custom ROM

[Q] OTA Update downloaded, but didn't install.

So the official OTA Jellybean update has been out for awhile now, but I'm just now trying to get to the bottom of my issue. My issue being that my OTA update downloaded but didn't install. Please note that, 1. I am an amateur with roms and such, and 2. My phone is rooted.
I have opened the OTA zip file with the Rom Manager's Rom Pre-installation, but I am lost on what to do from there. I figure there is a way I can install this update on my phone manually.
One more thing, I have tried flashing a rom before, but there was an error and I had to restore to my stock rom.
Attachment is a screenshot of the Rom Pre-installation screen.
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I would suggest not using Rom Manager for anything. Flash it in recovery. Plus that looks like an old version.
Sent from my Evita

If you have custom recovery installed, OTA will fail. OTA is looking for stock recovery to perform the install. If it doesn't find it, it stops.
Unlocked bootloader may also cause OTA to fail, can't remember.

timmaaa said:
I would suggest not using Rom Manager for anything. Flash it in recovery. Plus that looks like an old version.
Sent from my Evita
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As I said, previously, I have had issues with flashing roms. But according to Rom Manager, it says the zip I have is a "Rom addon". Should that give me a different result than flashing a rom?
redpoint73 said:
If you have custom recovery installed, OTA will fail. OTA is looking for stock recovery to perform the install. If it doesn't find it, it stops.
Unlocked bootloader may also cause OTA to fail, can't remember.
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Well, that's the cause of the issue. I have TWRP installed, and I have an unlocked bootloader.

caskla said:
As I said, previously, I have had issues with flashing roms. But according to Rom Manager, it says the zip I have is a "Rom addon". Should that give me a different result than flashing a rom?
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ROM Manager is for flashing custom ROMs, and in the case of the "addons" for custom mods packaged as flashable zips. I would not expect it to install official OTAs.
What "issues" have you had with flashing ROMs? If you are rooted and bootloader unlocked, I wouldn't typically recommend to install OTAs at all. Install a custom ROM or stock rooted (if you want a stock type ROM), otherwise, why did you unlock in the first place?
Also, if you are SuperCID (probably the case since you are rooted) and S-on, you are lucky the OTA didn't install. It would have bricked the phone. Same thing if you try to RUU. If you really want to return to stock, you either need to change back to the proper AT&T CID, or S-off, then run the RUU.