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Hi,
I want to flash a new radio to my Sensation as I currently have a really bad battery life and thought it could maybe be the result of an non-matched radio. (Updated to Android Revolution HD 3.0.0 yesterday)
My bootloader tells me I'm Ship S-OFF, but I've read that I'd need ENG S-OFF to flash a new radio, but could not find any guide telling me how to "do that".
Do I need ENG S-OFF? If so, how can I get it?
Thanks for your help.
Find Bin4ry's thread in dev section (it's a little hard to find, old thread but still) and inside that thread you can download PG58IMG.zip file. Then just flash that file and that's it
Edit: Here is the thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1122053
Swyped from my HTC Sensation
Btw, I'm not sure if you need ENG S-OFF to flash a radio
Swyped from my HTC Sensation
Thanks for the reply. Does anyone else know if I really need ENG S-OFF to flash a new Radio? I don't want to do it if I don't need it..
idavid_ said:
Find Bin4ry's thread in dev section (it's a little hard to find, old thread but still) and inside that thread you can download PG58IMG.zip file. Then just flash that file and that's it
Edit: Here is the thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1122053
Swyped from my HTC Sensation
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I've already installed one PG58IMG.zip file a few weeks ago, which was a bit "bigger". Am I supposed to just install the "new" one "over" the old one? Or will there be problems?
crunkin said:
Thanks for the reply. Does anyone else know if I really need ENG S-OFF to flash a new Radio? I don't want to do it if I don't need it..
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You do not need ENG S-OFF to flash a new radio.
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What is ENG S-Off used for anyway? Installing a new ROM overwrites the radio though?
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What is ENG S-Off used for anyway? Installing a new ROM overwrites the radio though?
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Installing a new ROM does not override the radio, installing a new radio does. If you don't know what ENG hboot does, don't flash it. You don't need it, and if you don't know what youre doing you can brick your phone.
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raybez said:
Installing a new ROM does not override the radio, installing a new radio does. If you don't know what ENG hboot does, don't flash it. You don't need it, and if you don't know what youre doing you can brick your phone.
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I do know what I'm doing (I think xD). I just mixed up all the information I got, so I wanted things to be cleared up a bit.
What I just want to know is, what is the difference between Ship S-Off and Eng S-Off? What is responsible for giving acces to Nand making me able to install a custom ROM? Ship S-Off, right?
I'm really confused right now xD
claudenegm said:
I do know what I'm doing (I think xD). I just mixed up all the information I got, so I wanted things to be cleared up a bit.
What I just want to know is, what is the difference between Ship S-Off and Eng S-Off? What is responsible for giving acces to Nand making me able to install a custom ROM? Ship S-Off, right?
I'm really confused right now xD
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Ship S-OFF is enough to flash a recovery so you can flash a ROM. If your ROM needs a different radio the chef will let you know and will likely provide instructions to upgrade. ENG s-off opens up more commands that can potentially break a phone if you do the wrong things.
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raybez said:
Ship S-OFF is enough to flash a recovery so you can flash a ROM. If your ROM needs a different radio the chef will let you know and will likely provide instructions to upgrade. ENG s-off opens up more commands that can potentially break a phone if you do the wrong things.
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Thanks alot, it helped
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raybez said:
Ship S-OFF is enough to flash a recovery so you can flash a ROM. If your ROM needs a different radio the chef will let you know and will likely provide instructions to upgrade. ENG s-off opens up more commands that can potentially break a phone if you do the wrong things.
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Thanks i now finally know the difference between eng s off and ship s off
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how to (ENG S-OFF) the SENSATION
hi,,, thanks for all the information it was usefull,,,
-but do anyone knows how to Eng S-OFF the sensation????
i have done to much searching for but there was none....
-also i concluded that in order to flash a radio on my sensation I must be
ENG S-OFF not only Ship S-OFF (ex: the revelution HD Radio) ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1098849 )
when i tried to follow the procedure to flash the rom I get (not allowed message; which means that i dont have ENG S-OFF)
htc sensation rooted
ship S-OFF
Android revelution HD 3.0.0
yazan86 said:
hi,,, thanks for all the information it was usefull,,,
-but do anyone knows how to Eng S-OFF the sensation????
i have done to much searching for but there was none....
-also i concluded that in order to flash a radio on my sensation I must be
ENG S-OFF not only Ship S-OFF (ex: the revelution HD Radio) ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1098849 )
when i tried to follow the procedure to flash the rom I get (not allowed message; which means that i dont have ENG S-OFF)
htc sensation rooted
ship S-OFF
Android revelution HD 3.0.0
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Look at my first post in this thread (1 page back)
Swyped from my HTC Sensation
I'm using HTC incredible S 710e, my phone is Eng S-OFF, how to change Ship S-OFF...
PhuongHoang said:
I'm using HTC incredible S 710e, my phone is Eng S-OFF, how to change Ship S-OFF...
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First of all, wrong forum. Second, why would you want that? I guess you can get S-ON again and then run revolutionary again
Swyped from my HTC Sensation
Hello, anyone know if HBOOT 1.27 is unlockable with revolutionary? i've searched in this forum but i've found nothing.. please help
EDIT: No. (Stand corrected, typed faster than I was thinking)
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To S-OFF use Juopunutbear S-OFF method. Read and follow this detailed guide.
Thats not revolutionary...
Atm revolutionary doesnt support this version of hboot.
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Sorry about that.. solved my problem, i forgot that @ revolutionary site you can choose the hboot version XD. the supported ones are 1.17 and 1.18, anyway my problem is solved 'cause i've used a RUU to return back to hboot 1.18, anyway thank you!
blast1987 said:
Sorry about that.. solved my problem, i forgot that @ revolutionary site you can choose the hboot version XD. the supported ones are 1.17 and 1.18, anyway my problem is solved 'cause i've used a RUU to return back to hboot 1.18, anyway thank you!
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What? from the information i've been given, that isn't possible.
Incanity said:
What? from the information i've been given, that isn't possible.
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It is possible i already did it one time when i recovered the phone with the 1.45 RUU starting from a Android 4.0.3 based custom rom, it's a bit twisted process but not that hard
I know its possible with s-off. But with stock, unrooted ICS iT's not..
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Follow this guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26280760
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I know the ENG HBoot 1.09.2006 was out there for a little while when trying to get S-OFF for our phone but since then the link has now died so I'm putting out this request for someone who has it (theres a few of you out there) to share it to us all in here...
wrong section?
I believe he is trying to get it from someone, then he will put it in the first post along with instructions and the like. Instead of making 2 threads. Plus, devs will probably see this a hell of a lot sooner than if it was in Q&A.
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mcmb03 said:
wrong section?
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It's an engineer hboot that's for development purposes that some dev will have somewhere so I guessed this is the right place...
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liamstears said:
I know the ENG HBoot 1.09.2006 was out there for a little while when trying to get S-OFF for our phone but since then the link has now died so I'm putting out this request for someone who has it (theres a few of you out there) to share it to us all in here...
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Wats so special about this hboot will it give us some advantages?
scottie720 said:
Wats so special about this hboot will it give us some advantages?
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If you don't know what it is, don't worry about it. It allows some extra commands in fastboot, I believe.
How can you check if you have that hotboot? I have 1.09 with S-off, Network Unlocked, Rooted, and bootloader unlocked.
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Gman_aka_Pop's said:
How can you check if you have that hotboot? I have 1.09 with S-off, Network Unlocked, Rooted, and bootloader unlocked.
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See these 2 pictures:
http://s013.radikal.ru/i324/1112/7c/14f6710cbf92.jpg http://i.imgur.com/bKZta.jpg
You will see one says ENG at the top and the other says SHIP
We currently all have SHIP HBoot's, we are looking for ENG HBoot...
IIRC the only people with ENG HBoots were those that had factory S-OFF devices. Pretty sure there are partition dumps containing them somewhere in the S-OFF thread.
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IIRC the only people with ENG HBoots were those that had factory S-OFF devices. Pretty sure there are partition dumps containing them somewhere in the S-OFF thread.
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I found one link so far in there but it was dead. I pmd the guy who originally gave the link to see if I could get it
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I understand why you put this in the dev section but I can not leave it here moving to general section.
I seriously hope this is it... I just spent about 15 scouring the old S-OFF thread and found this link to a dropbox folder with a bunch of old dumps of S-OFFed devices way back when, I believe the one in the EVITA S-OFF folder is the ENG hboot one although tbh I have no idea which one of the partitions on our phone holds the hboot. Hope this sorta helps..
www(dot)dropbox(dot)com/sh/tmpa7i7ibjy0ciy/lnAD6aSvBS
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I seriously hope this is it... I just spent about 15 scouring the old S-OFF thread and found this link to a dropbox folder with a bunch of old dumps of S-OFFed devices way back when, I believe the one in the EVITA S-OFF folder is the ENG hboot one although tbh I have no idea which one of the partitions on our phone holds the hboot. Hope this sorta helps..
www(dot)dropbox(dot)com/sh/tmpa7i7ibjy0ciy/lnAD6aSvBS
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Mmcblk0p4, if im not mistaken
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gamecheet said:
I seriously hope this is it... I just spent about 15 scouring the old S-OFF thread and found this link to a dropbox folder with a bunch of old dumps of S-OFFed devices way back when, I believe the one in the EVITA S-OFF folder is the ENG hboot one although tbh I have no idea which one of the partitions on our phone holds the hboot. Hope this sorta helps..
www(dot)dropbox(dot)com/sh/tmpa7i7ibjy0ciy/lnAD6aSvBS
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Checked it and I'm afraid its only the 1.09 ship HBoot we already have
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IIRC the only people with ENG HBoots were those that had factory S-OFF devices. Pretty sure there are partition dumps containing them somewhere in the S-OFF thread.
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I have factory soff device and I have ship 1.14
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For1n said:
I have factory soff device and I have ship 1.14
Send from my One XL CM10.1
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I believe the only people that got the eng hboots were those with test devices although it wouldn't surprise me if some early retail soff devices had it too
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Mmcblk0p4, if im not mistaken
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You mean mmcblk0p12
An eng hboot is pointless to a regular user, all it has is extra fast boot commands
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Here is my archive of all the documents and s-off information for when I was working on the XL. I am currently busy so you'll have to check through the folder and see if any of the s-off partition folders have eng hboot. I know I had it at one point but don't remember if I put it in my archive. Let me know if you don't find it and I'll search for it later on through the rest of my files.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/a1n5s4r61wfh7qr/E_XaRZhI8i
Hello, I am fairly new to XDA so, I do not know much. But I am fairly knowledged on technology so just say what you may to help out.
I rooted my HTC One X (Evita) And I installed Cyanogenmod 10 . Now I wanna install cm10.1 nightly, now I installed the
M-2 Release and went back to cm10 now I hear there is a HBOOT requirement.
Now, what would happen if. I tried the nightly (boot loop)?? Because I wanna try it and I don't really trust any other dev except AOKP. Thanks!
There is no requirement. But if your on hboot 2.14 from either a ruu or your hox came with 2.14 then you need to downgrade your touchscreen firmware. The thread is sticked in original dev section. You should be fine flashing the nightly
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majortaylor said:
There is no requirement. But if your on hboot 2.14 from either a ruu or your hox came with 2.14 then you need to downgrade your touchscreen firmware. The thread is sticked in original dev section. You should be fine flashing the nightly
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Well, i rooted my phone when it was HBOOT 2.20 running Sense 4.0.4, is this fine? and if i'm wrong will i get a hard bricked phone??(which is what i don't wan't)
i4GS said:
Well, i rooted my phone when it was HBOOT 2.20 running Sense 4.0.4, is this fine? and if i'm wrong will i get a hard bricked phone??(which is what i don't wan't)
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No you wont get bricked but if your not soff you will need to flash the boot.img of the ROM in question in fast boot because your on 2.20. All the instructions for flashing will be in the roms thread in the first post.
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majortaylor said:
No you wont get bricked but if your not soff you will need to flash the boot.img of the ROM in question in fast boot because your on 2.20. All the instructions for flashing will be in the roms thread in the first post.
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Sorry! I meant hboot 1.14.0002 , evita S-on.
It's still safe to install?? sorry but i'm just making sure because i can't afford a repair. Though i think i have warranty...
i4GS said:
Sorry! I meant hboot 1.14.0002 , evita S-on.
It's still safe to install?? sorry but i'm just making sure because i can't afford a repair. Though i think i have warranty...
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You won't brick. Just make sure you flash the boot.img if the ROM requires it. Just check the 1st post in the ROMs thread and there should be instructions for flashing if your worried still
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majortaylor said:
You won't brick. Just make sure you flash the boot.img if the ROM requires it. Just check the 1st post in the ROMs thread and there should be instructions for flashing if your worried still
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This is true. I am on 1.14. I flashed about four roms. If you are stuck in bootloop, then just reformat /system and /data, and reflash, and then use fastboot the boot.img. Most of the CM roms requires it. But, I seriously suggest you get S-OFF, while you can. It is worth it, and makes life really simple. The link is in my sig
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This is true. I am on 1.14. I flashed about four roms. If you are stuck in bootloop, then just reformat /system and /data, and reflash, and then use fastboot the boot.img. Most of the CM roms requires it. But, I seriously suggest you get S-OFF, while you can. It is worth it, and makes life really simple. The link is in my sig
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Actually have you guys tried the King Kong ROM for Evita? I wanna try that. Any insights? [About to flash]
i4GS said:
Actually have you guys tried the King Kong ROM for Evita? I wanna try that. Any insights? [About to flash]
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Try it out yourself. Its cm, AOKP and pa.
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i4GS said:
Actually have you guys tried the King Kong ROM for Evita? I wanna try that. Any insights? [About to flash]
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No. I am content with what i have. But let me know.
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hboot 1.09 with s-ff
Ive had 1.09 all along and its flashed anything ive thrown at it
Ooooooooooooo..... Wrong thread) :
-Sugardaddy Duncan
hi plz help me
i have htc one xl with hboot 2.10 and radio 3.20...
i wanna to flash cyanogenmod 10.1 or newer...when i flash this rom it says ma hboot does not supported...
i look every where to update my hboot...but every one say i cant update... plz help me...i want cyanogenmod 10.1
sepehrppp said:
i have htc one xl with hboot 2.10 and radio 3.20...
i wanna to flash cyanogenmod 10.1 or newer...when i flash this rom it says ma hboot does not supported...
i look every where to update my hboot...but every one say i cant update... plz help me...i want cyanogenmod 10.1
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You have the middle eastern variant of this phone, none of the firmware/hboots/radios etc from the normal version are compatible and will most likely brick your phone if you try to install them. Basically, you can't run any aosp ROM because you can't flash the necessary upgrades. It's unfortunate but you're stuck with Sense ROMs.
The problem is that there simply aren't enough of the middle eastern variant around so there is no development specifically for it, so all you users with that variant are kinda stuck coming into this forum where not everything is compatible.
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thanks man...
timmaaa said:
You have the middle eastern variant of this phone, none of the firmware/hboots/radios etc from the normal version are compatible and will most likely brick your phone if you try to install them. Basically, you can't run any aosp ROM because you can't flash the necessary upgrades. It's unfortunate but you're stuck with Sense ROMs.
The problem is that there simply aren't enough of the middle eastern variant around so there is no development specifically for it, so all you users with that variant are kinda stuck coming into this forum where not everything is compatible.
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thanks for helping me...
how about to get supercid then flash ruu 3.18??
You could try, but there's a really good chance you'll brick. Personally I wouldn't risk it.
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I believe I am running hboot 2.20.502.7 and I want to install cyanogenmod 10.2
I keep getting errors when attempting to flash. it says something like:
assert failed getprop( ro.bootloader )
^this is followed by some numbers including 2.14.0000 and 2.15.0000
do I need to downgrade my hboot firmware to install this rom?
thanks
erikxj said:
I believe I am running hboot 2.20.502.7 and I want to install cyanogenmod 10.2
I keep getting errors when attempting to flash. it says something like:
assert failed getprop( ro.bootloader )
^this is followed by some numbers including 2.14.0000 and 2.15.0000
do I need to downgrade my hboot firmware to install this rom?
thanks
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There's no such thing as hboot 2.20, that's your software version. You need to upgrade your firmware by running the 3.18 RUU. It does state that very clearly in the CM thread. You must have s-off to do this or you'll brick.
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timmaaa said:
There's no such thing as hboot 2.20, that's your software version. You need to upgrade your firmware by running the 3.18 RUU. It does state that very clearly in the CM thread. You must have s-off to do this or you'll brick.
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I tried getting s-off with the facepalm method and had no luck. I had no erros other than the ones expected in the instructions. I'm beginning to wonder if maybe my firmware is too old. I now know that my kernal version is 3.0.51.
Why not update your ROM and try again?
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My question for all of those who ever tried to flash different version RUU only on unlock bootloader and rooted. S-ON still on it place. Please tell me it was a successful or not? and also share ur experience related to this. Thank you.
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My question for all of those who ever tried to flash different version RUU only on unlock bootloader and rooted. S-ON still on it place. Please tell me it was a successful or not? and also share ur experience related to this. Thank you.
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you can't flash the RUU you want cause in that case it probably won't work, you have to make sure that the RUU that you are going to flash has the same software version of your current main version.... if you follow this you will successfully install the RUU :good:
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My question for all of those who ever tried to flash different version RUU only on unlock bootloader and rooted. S-ON still on it place. Please tell me it was a successful or not? and also share ur experience related to this. Thank you.
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To flash ruu from any region you have to be s-off and Super cid as far as I know.
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Alsager said:
To flash any ruu, you have to be s-off and Super cid as far as I know.
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I'm sorry mate. Not true
You will need s-off if you want to downgrade the software or use ruu from another region.
But as long as it the right ruu for your phone it won't cause problems
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I'm sorry mate. Not true
You will need s-off if you want to downgrade the software or use ruu from another region.
But as long as it the right ruu for your phone it won't cause problems
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correct :good:
matt95 said:
you can't flash the RUU you want cause in that case it probably won't work, you have to make sure that the RUU that you are going to flash has the same software version of your current main version.... if you follow this you will successfully install the RUU :good:
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hanisod said:
I'm sorry mate. Not true
You will need s-off if you want to downgrade the software or use ruu from another region.
But as long as it the right ruu for your phone it won't cause problems
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i have sensation 4g that has PYRAMID TMOUS RUU, i will gain S-OFF after then can i flash PYRAMID RUU?
obaidshera said:
i have sensation 4g that has PYRAMID TMOUS RUU, i will gain S-OFF after then can i flash PYRAMID RUU?
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Sorry for the late response :
No
See your phone's software info. Check if it matches the ruu you want to use
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obaidshera said:
i have sensation 4g that has PYRAMID TMOUS RUU, i will gain S-OFF after then can i flash PYRAMID RUU?
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Hi,
If you s-off,you might consider SuperCID as well.
Then, you can flash ANY RUU you like .