i have other android devices and love flashing them, just looking for some insight into how things work with my new xoom. some things i'm wondering off the top of my head:
are kernels particular to model (3g, lte, wifi), or will they work with them all? also, is the kernel tied up with the recovery partition or other such silly business as i've seen with epic 4g touch?
is there any one click root/recovery method available? i'd prefer to avoid installing the android sdk if possible.
what's the best way to do 1080p playback on my hdtv? does the xoom fit this purpose well, or any particular rom?
thanks in advance if anyone can help shed some light. i'm going to dive right in one way or another, but your help is appreciated.
I'm pleased to say that the OG Xoom (which I assume you have) is a very different beast from the Epic 4G Touch, in that the initial unlocking/flashing custom recovery and rooting is a bit more involved-- no one-click and yes you need the sdk--but once rooted, any recovery (tiamat/eos or rogue) works and the kernels/roms are just dependent on the version of android you're on. It's much harder to brick the Xoom and imho, it's much less complicated. As far as which is the most stable, well-developed rom for the Xoom, I would recommend the one in my sig for the wifi MZ604 (wingray). Also, check out the rooting guide in my sig as well.
Welcome to the Xoom...still the best overall tablet around!
wow! thanks for the info. your guide thread was great, thanks so much for that too. i'm all set, running pete's rom and it's truly a beast. now that i'm running it on two devices (xoom and ns4g) it's probably time i donate!
anyway thanks again
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wow! thanks for the info. your guide thread was great, thanks so much for that too. i'm all set, running pete's rom and it's truly a beast. now that i'm running it on two devices (xoom and ns4g) it's probably time i donate!
anyway thanks again
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Excellent news! I'm sure Pete will appreciate the donation.
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Hey Guys,
I am new here so please forgive any embarressing newness moments regarding my questions.
I noticed that GTab has at least 4 different Roms that are being actively developed in their own way (big thank you to the devs btw).
I also see there is a post already asking which rom people this is the best.
I dont know if its fair on the devs to say best or not but I was wondering if each rom was developed for a certain purpose in mind?
I mean is one built for better gaming while the other is for better web browsing etc??
Can anyone pls advise suitability of purpose?
I get my GTab soon as i just ordered it and will be changing the rom on it almost immediately. I'm just unsure which on to choose is all.
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Hey Guys,
I am new here so please forgive any embarressing newness moments regarding my questions.
I noticed that GTab has at least 4 different Roms that are being actively developed in their own way (big thank you to the devs btw).
I also see there is a post already asking which rom people this is the best.
I dont know if its fair on the devs to say best or not but I was wondering if each rom was developed for a certain purpose in mind?
I mean is one built for better gaming while the other is for better web browsing etc??
Can anyone pls advise suitability of purpose?
I get my GTab soon as i just ordered it and will be changing the rom on it almost immediately. I'm just unsure which on to choose is all.
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There is not that much difference between the roms. They are based from different source so they all look a little different. The best thing to do is install clockwork and check them all out and see what is best for you. Install one and run it for awhile then make a backup in clockwork and install another. If you don't like it you can then restore your backup and be back up in about 5 minutes.
I would personally wait on cm7 before installing as it has some weird quirks the others don't. I have nothing against cyanogenmod as I am running cm7 on my droid right now.
~BAM~ said:
Hey Guys,
I am new here so please forgive any embarressing newness moments regarding my questions.
I noticed that GTab has at least 4 different Roms that are being actively developed in their own way (big thank you to the devs btw).
I also see there is a post already asking which rom people this is the best.
I dont know if its fair on the devs to say best or not but I was wondering if each rom was developed for a certain purpose in mind?
I mean is one built for better gaming while the other is for better web browsing etc??
Can anyone pls advise suitability of purpose?
I get my GTab soon as i just ordered it and will be changing the rom on it almost immediately. I'm just unsure which on to choose is all.
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None of them is really better at any one thing than the other. It is mostly just user interface differences. TnT Lite is based off of the stock TnT that came on the tablet. Zpad is based off of the rom made for the Zpad. vegaN is based from the rom for the Advent Vega, and Cyanogenmod is based off of... Well, Cyanogenmod.
The GTab, and the Zpad are like brothers. Both made by Malata, and are almost the same thing. The Advent Vega uses similar hardware to us as well.
My personal favorite is vegaN but really only because I don't like the upper notification bar in TnT. Zpad is another one I like for the same reason.
For just starting out I would go with either TnTLite, or vegaN as they are the most popular, and most supported.
Can't really go wrong with any of them and I play with them all. Like said before I would stay away from the Cyanogenmod rom unless you are a techie. It works well, but it has a different way of mapping memory and some other differences that can get you into trouble.
Easiest to get answers to questions are TnTLite, or vegaN...
Thanks for the quick response guys!
I cant wait till my Gtab arrives!
Hey y'all, I'm originally a forum poster on [H]ard Forums and I just got the new HTC Inspire. I've been hearing all about rooting and roming phones and I'm thinking about doing it. Problem is, I don't know much about it. I was thinking about doing it not only for the free apps but so I could completely customize my UI. If y'all could give me the pros and cons and possibly directing me to what I need or should do to root my phone I would like to know. This is my first Smart phone so I'm very interested in this process.
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Hey y'all, I'm originally a forum poster on [H]ard Forums and I just got the new HTC Inspire. I've been hearing all about rooting and roming phones and I'm thinking about doing it. Problem is, I don't know much about it. I was thinking about doing it not only for the free apps but so I could completely customize my UI. If y'all could give me the pros and cons and possibly directing me to what I need or should do to root my phone I would like to know. This is my first Smart phone so I'm very interested in this process.
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Probably the best way to root your phone is the inspire hack kit. Its easy to follow and there is a ton of support for it.
The main pros are free wifi tether, side loading enabled, hsupa enabled, and tons of mods.
The cons would be if you have to take it back to att you will have to go through an unrooted process. Its not to hard but still a hassle. I can honestly stay rooted is the best way to really enjoy your phone.
Stock look
ClearD rom. Ive tried it and I haven't had any problems with it.
TPC Rom. Its stock with an over clocked kernel
DHD Rom
Android Revolution is fast and stable stock look
RCMix HD fast and stable and made with transparency.
These are the ones Ive used and they all work.
Have fun with your phone.
klquicksall said:
Probably the best way to root your phone is the inspire hack kit. Its easy to follow and there is a ton of support for it.
The main pros are free wifi tether, side loading enabled, hsupa enabled, and tons of mods.
The cons would be if you have to take it back to att you will have to go through an unrooted process. Its not to hard but still a hassle. I can honestly stay rooted is the best way to really enjoy your phone.
Stock look
ClearD rom. Ive tried it and I haven't had any problems with it.
TPC Rom. Its stock with an over clocked kernel
DHD Rom
Android Revolution is fast and stable stock look
RCMix HD fast and stable and made with transparency.
These are the ones Ive used and they all work.
Have fun with your phone.
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Did you reflash the radio on any of these Roms? I am rooted and about to try some Roms but don't really want to deal with flashing radios.
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Did you reflash the radio on any of these Roms? I am rooted and about to try some Roms but don't really want to deal with flashing radios.
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Why not? Its really easy. Check the development threads. No need for eng s-off.
Sent from Desire HD or Inspire 4G or whatever this thing is called via premium XDA app.
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Did you reflash the radio on any of these Roms? I am rooted and about to try some Roms but don't really want to deal with flashing radios.
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I have used both the recommend radio for the roms and the att raido. They all work fine.
I'm thinking about making my own UI interface using photoshop and creating a launch as well. Is it something that is really easy to do? I'm a big Aliens fan (H.R. Giger, not that ****ty AvP movie bull****) and would love to make a custom UI or at least make sounds for when I press a button (thinking about when I shut down hearing Hudson saying "that's it man, game over man game over!")
I'm probably getting way ahead of myself seeing that I'm still new to all of this.
Which is the best rom or are they all essentially the same?
I've noticed after owning the xoom for a little over 2 weeks, that xoom development is kind of dead. I know that hc is closed source which makes things difficult, but do you think things will pick up when IceCream Sandwich comes out? What do you think of the kind of material we will hope to see when it is released and (if) dev picks up by the release of the new update? I'm just looking for thoughts on the matter.
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I've noticed after owning the xoom for a little over 2 weeks, that xoom development is kind of dead. I know that hc is closed source which makes things difficult, but do you think things will pick up when IceCream Sandwich comes out? What do you think of the kind of material we will hope to see when it is released and (if) dev picks up by the release of the new update? I'm just looking for thoughts on the matter.
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So in the two weeks since you got your Xoom did you unlock and root? Did you flash one of the custom recoveries and a custom rom or kernel? Have you loaded a ton of music and movies onto your giant HDD and taken advantage of usb host mode with your usbOTG cable? Is your Xoom overclocked and lightning fast?
If not, you have not taken advantage of those little 'tweaks' someone just mentioned as the sum total of Xoom development.
Forgive me, your question was probably quite well-intentioned, but what do you exactly need at this moment to make you feel that development is not 'kinda dead?'
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So in the two weeks since you got your Xoom did you unlock and root? Did you flash one of the custom recoveries and a custom rom or kernel? Have you loaded a ton of music and movies onto your giant HDD and taken advantage of usb host mode with your usbOTG cable? Is your Xoom overclocked and lightning fast?
If not, you have not taken advantage of those little 'tweaks' someone just mentioned as the sum total of Xoom development.
Forgive me, your question was probably quite well-intentioned, but what do you exactly need at this moment to make you feel that development is not 'kinda dead?'
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I would say that it has definitely slowed since pre-August. OP has a point, IMO.
I'm finally satisfied with how capable my Xoom is - at thanks to all the work by the guys in the Development section, and I'm enjoying the fact that I haven't had to do a full wipe in over a month
okantomi said:
So in the two weeks since you got your Xoom did you unlock and root? Did you flash one of the custom recoveries and a custom rom or kernel? Have you loaded a ton of music and movies onto your giant HDD and taken advantage of usb host mode with your usbOTG cable? Is your Xoom overclocked and lightning fast?
If not, you have not taken advantage of those little 'tweaks' someone just mentioned as the sum total of Xoom development.
Forgive me, your question was probably quite well-intentioned, but what do you exactly need at this moment to make you feel that development is not 'kinda dead?'
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+1. No, actually +1000000000.
OP, please refer to this post. Well without the hostility, that is, since you had no ill intentions.
However, you must understand that there is an incredible amount of work being done, especially considering the closed source. BRD enabled the microSD slot months before Googorola decided we were worthy of that functionality. The latest Tiamat ROM works on all devices and has an awesome tweaked quick settings menu. Furthermore, the OCed CPU and GPU breathe new life into the Tegra 2!
I dont think that the development is lacking whatsoever. In any case, I am closing this thread because it (unintentionally) marginalizes the efforts of Teams Rogue and Tiamat, which have both done amazing work for us here.
Hi all,
My name is swagstr and I've been active in the OG EVO forums for a good part of the last year. I also have an EVO 3D and just picked up an OG Transformer from 1saleaday.
I haven't received the unit yet, but I am trying to figure out exactly what I'm going to do with it when I receive it.
Before I start, I AM NOT A NOOB... But I've never used/rooted a Transformer, so bear with me. I've been doing a lot of research for this device too (and I know how to hit search )
If the device comes with Honeycomb... should I leave it there? I'm going to be sharing it with my gf and I'm sure she is going to become agitated if our new tablet is rebooting periodically.
Also, is ICS that unstable? What causes the reboots? It seems to be the "Sleep of Death" but I'm still a little fuzzy
I know a lot of what I can do is going to depend on what my serial number is Just looking for a good general direction.
In summary:
Does ICS suck as bad as everyone makes it out to be?
Is AOSP as bad (or worse) than stock ICS
If it comes with HC, should I leave it there?
General list of ROMs and kernels that are bad ass
Thanks for reading! I hope I will be able to contribute to this awesome device and learn as much as I know about the OG EVO soon
swagstr said:
Hi all,
In summary:
Does ICS suck as bad as everyone makes it out to be?
Is AOSP as bad (or worse) than stock ICS
If it comes with HC, should I leave it there?
General list of ROMs and kernels that are bad ass
Thanks for reading! I hope I will be able to contribute to this awesome device and learn as much as I know about the OG EVO soon
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1. No. Its the loud minority that makes it seem bad. Yes, there are issues. Yes, some gets RR/SOD's quite often (a lot of people, myself included, gets it very rarely or not at all).
Random reboots during use is extremely rare. Its when its sleeping it usually happens.
2. No, its a hell a lot better in every aspect.
3. Up to you, I say no. The goodies in ICS makes it more appealing than HC, despite its issues. But if you want a really really stable device - then go with HC (but not stock).
4. I like team EOS builds. reports say that guevenors kernel is very good, but I havnt tried it myself.
I suggest you try out the roms available in the dev. section and stick with the one you like best.
Thank you!!
Goatshocker said:
I suggest you try out the roms available in the dev. section and stick with the one you like best.
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And always a good policy
Sent from the original Swagged Out HTC EVO 4G via Tapatalk
Goatshocker pretty much hit the nail on the head with the loud minority thing, in my personal experience ICS actually fixed a bunch of problems I had with HC. I did flash a custom rom and kernel, which I Highly recommend you do. If you get your tablet on hc and you can root with razorclaw use that then flash a rom, if not upgrade to the proper ics version for vipermod opt. 1 and use that.
I suggest android revolution hd, it's ics and very stable
Stock hc is stable but is not using all capacity from tegra2
Stock ics is using the power of tegra2 but is unstable.
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Hey guys I have never owned a tablet before, and finally picked up a tf101 with keyboard for a sweet price on CL.. and I want to give this tablet thing a real fair shot. That being said, I have tinkered around with android cellphones for a while, Im not a 100% noob but not as clever as most of you guys.
anyways I want to cut down on the amount of reading to do and boy there is a bunch , its the same song for every device/vehicle I buy, Purchase product, then spend the next couple months reading your brains off on a forum related to the product. (need to cut down on the reading... gf always on my case lol)
What are the most popular mods, accessories , settings (I will check into all the various kernals and Roms myself) apps. What are some life changing functions I can perform with the tf101 that would make me wish I got into tablets a lot sooner?
pretty much, I like the device and it looks real sleek and cool... just not sure what to do with it now , lol.
thanks in advance
Must have for me - Root - install custom rom - install kernel.
My PERI tool makes this a one-click from latest stock. I highly recommend you skip all the issues people have with stock and go straight to a great rom like ARHD, AOKP, or Megatron. :]
Other - counterstrike mobile, yes
This can be tough to answer because Android, unlike granny smith, has many things to read about and tinker with. I have had the tab for a while and tried numerous different roms and kernels. Each have slightly different responses and it depends on your tinkering desire.
I push my tab to the limits and try to do everything it wasn't originally designed for. Unfortunately....a lot of reading.
At any rate, my life changing functions were very quick access to RDP and VNC to home computers. I can also view my home security video cameras from the tab.
SSH to my phone is another plus for me.
I'm still contemplating attempting to install Linux on the tab as well.
TomTcom said:
I'm still contemplating attempting to install Linux on the tab as well.
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I have it installed in an image loop and up and running fine on my B80 SBK2. It is slow and doesn't have any sound and I can't figure out what to do next in terms of getting a decent speed from it because there is pretty much no information out there other than getting it running. I know decent speed is possible because I had a WebTop phone.
TomTcom said:
This can be tough to answer because Android, unlike granny smith, has many things to read about and tinker with. I have had the tab for a while and tried numerous different roms and kernels. Each have slightly different responses and it depends on your tinkering desire.
I push my tab to the limits and try to do everything it wasn't originally designed for. Unfortunately....a lot of reading.
At any rate, my life changing functions were very quick access to RDP and VNC to home computers. I can also view my home security video cameras from the tab.
SSH to my phone is another plus for me.
I'm still contemplating attempting to install Linux on the tab as well.
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haha, yeah I know what you mean... read read read, I should start hiring a forum assistant to scour message boards for me
anyways , I couldnt resist and already started reading and have rooted and installed rom... gonna try out some new kernals
but my main issue right now is ad-hoc.. Im trying to figure out if there is actually a real fix for it, but its all pretty confusing
I just made this thread regarding it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1689658
Thing O Doom said:
Must have for me - Root - install custom rom - install kernel.
My PERI tool makes this a one-click from latest stock. I highly recommend you skip all the issues people have with stock and go straight to a great rom like ARHD, AOKP, or Megatron. :]
Other - counterstrike mobile, yes
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thanks thing o doom, the peri one click was a nice experience, liked the humor you through in there
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haha, yeah I know what you mean... read read read, I should start hiring a forum assistant to scour message boards for me
anyways , I couldnt resist and already started reading and have rooted and installed rom... gonna try out some new kernals
but my main issue right now is ad-hoc.. Im trying to figure out if there is actually a real fix for it, but its all pretty confusing
I just made this thread regarding it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1689658
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Tell me more on your tether issue. I tether the tf to my phone using built in tether function through the aopk rom. The tablet picks it up just fine. There is a lot of confusion between adhoc and infrastructure mode also but there are a lot of articles on the subject.
Define what you want to do and what way you want the data to flow would help out for a better answer I think.
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TomTcom said:
Tell me more on your tether issue. I tether the tf to my phone using built in tether function through the aopk rom. The tablet picks it up just fine. There is a lot of confusion between adhoc and infrastructure mode also but there are a lot of articles on the subject.
Define what you want to do and what way you want the data to flow would help out for a better answer I think.
Sent from my SCH-I500 using Tapatalk 2
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hey tom, I think I have solved my problem, I applied the suplicant fix that was in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1438297
and it has been working since, I havnt used it too much yet but so far so good
was that what you were going to suggest to me?
My phone is a rooted tmobile vibrant running tmobile web , I dont have a native tether app on this rom and I didnt want to mess with my phone much either. (been over a year since I installed a rom or even wiped, its getting too old for me to want to invest time into it)
bigjoe87865 said:
hey tom, I think I have solved my problem, I applied the suplicant fix that was in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1438297
and it has been working since, I havnt used it too much yet but so far so good
was that what you were going to suggest to me?
My phone is a rooted tmobile vibrant running tmobile web , I dont have a native tether app on this rom and I didnt want to mess with my phone much either. (been over a year since I installed a rom or even wiped, its getting too old for me to want to invest time into it)
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I have heard this option many times but for quite some time ago when I was using Wifi tether for root users on the phone I had to select galaxy nexus cdma and netd master so the tablet would recognize.
Now things are becoming different such as the aopk rom and I use them on both the tf and my samsung fascinate. I stopped using the separate tether app since the built in function did all the same things.
I personally suggest a rom like this to make sure your phone and tablet can all peform the same functions.
Glad it worked for you though.