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Hi,
I recently bought a Kaiser. I think it's great. Only thing missing is an FM radio. Or is it?
I think it's accurate to say that the only real difference between the Kaiser and the Polaris is the keyboard. They have the same Qualcomm chipset, same amount of memory, the lot. So why then does the Polaris have an FM radio and the Kaiser does not?
Does anybody know if anybody has attempted to "lift" the radio programs out of the Polaris for testing in the Kaiser?
Alan
Dublin, Ireland
Most of us are still waiting for the polaris to be officialy released
arabbitte said:
So why then does the Polaris have an FM radio and the Kaiser does not?
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Kaiser is supposed to be a "Professional" device and FM Radio is not one of it's features.
arabbitte said:
Does anybody know if anybody has attempted to "lift" the radio programs out of the Polaris for testing in the Kaiser?
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This is not possible because it is not only software but mostly hardware issue.
> Kaiser is supposed to be a "Professional" device and FM Radio is not one of it's features.
Hey, I'm a "professional" and I want a radio ;-)
>This is not possible because it is not only software but mostly hardware issue.
Ok, but as far as I know the hardware is identical, so this means it should just be missing software.
Hmm..
Just because the chipset and memory is identical, doesnt mean the rest of the hardware is identical.
Anyways.. I think O2's version of the Kaiser has radio. Go check it out.
yeah fm radio require a whole different radio chip compared to gsm
software is not enough to change it so gsm/umts at <800Ghz and are digital start recieving analog signals at around 100Ghz
MasK said:
Hmm..
Just because the chipset and memory is identical, doesnt mean the rest of the hardware is identical.
Anyways.. I think O2's version of the Kaiser has radio. Go check it out.
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Ο2 is identical to Kaiser... which means that this was a mistyping error. O2 version does not have FM radio and most sites have corrected their previous posts.
Rudegar said:
yeah fm radio require a whole different radio chip compared to gsm
software is not enough to change it so gsm/umts at <800Ghz and are digital start recieving analog signals at around 100Ghz
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Understood, but do you remember when the Trinity (aka 3600) was updated after launch with GPS? It had GPS all the time, but it wasn't activated on the original models.
I know the Polaris and Kaiser have the same hardware and only appear to differ with the keyboard. So if GPS can be activated on the Trinity, why not FM Radio on the Kaiser?
I'm assuming the FM on the Polaris is not built in to the headset ...
arabbitte said:
Understood, but do you remember when the Trinity (aka 3600) was updated after launch with GPS? It had GPS all the time, but it wasn't activated on the original models.
I know the Polaris and Kaiser have the same hardware and only appear to differ with the keyboard. So if GPS can be activated on the Trinity, why not FM Radio on the Kaiser?
I'm assuming the FM on the Polaris is not built in to the headset ...
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Trinity always had built-in GPS. Kaiser does not have FM Radio built-in. I don't want to disappoint you but this is the truth my friend.
athanaso77 said:
Trinity always had built-in GPS. Kaiser does not have FM Radio built-in. I don't want to disappoint you but this is the truth my friend.
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Oh dear
This is the first time I heard that there are actually hardware differences that would prevent FM radio functionality from being available on the Kaiser. It sounds like you know what you are talking about - I assumed that the Qualcom chipset that is common to both would mean FM radio was possible on the Kaiser. Does the Polaris have a different or upgraded chipset to the Kaiser or does the FM radio come from additional hardware?
Go on, I can handle the truth (albeit with considerable difficulty ...)
the radio only seem to work when the headset is connected
meaning that it use the headset wire as antenne which mean
that even if the fm radio was in the cpu not having wireing to an
antenna would mean that it could not recieve radio
Rudegar said:
the radio only seem to work when the headset is connected
meaning that it use the headset wire as antenne which mean
that even if the fm radio was in the cpu not having wireing to an
antenna would mean that it could not recieve radio
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I think all FM-equipped phones work like this. A friends 3300 has a headset just like my Kaiser. So no problems having to use the supplied headset then.
So, if not in the Qualcomm 7200 and not in the headset, just where is the FM?
a phone have more components then it's main cpu and the headset
if you look in the various wiki's for devices where they are opened
it's full of various IC's
if Qualcomm 7200 is not spec'd as having fm radio on Qualcomm's site
htc put another fm radio chip on the pcb to handle the fm radio
fm radio is a pretty old teck so i would understand why Qualcomm would not put too much work into having it on chip
Exactly!!!
Rudegar said:
if Qualcomm 7200 is not spec'd as having fm radio on Qualcomm's site
htc put another fm radio chip on the pcb to handle the fm radio
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Look, I know I'm sounding desperate here, but you do say if. I have actually looked at the schematics for the 7200 but there is so much detail, it's impossible for me to see if/where FM radio functionality might be lurking.
So, do we know for a fact that FM radio is not part of the 7200? (Forgive my pedantic questioning - I'm desperate! ;-))
cant say 100% but all the techs are listed and fm is not so i would guess another chip is used
http://www.cdmatech.com/platforms/convergenceplatform/msm7200_chipset_solution.jsp#top
http://www.cdmatech.com/download_library/pdf/msm7200_chipset.pdf
you can look in wiki for pcb pics of the other devices with fm to see if you can see a fm chip on any of their pcb's
arabbitte said:
LSo, do we know for a fact that FM radio is not part of the 7200? (Forgive my pedantic questioning - I'm desperate! ;-))
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Why don't you buy this?
Rudegar said:
you can look in wiki for pcb pics of the other devices with fm to see if you can see a fm chip on any of their pcb's
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I had a quick look, but didn't see anything. Then again, I'm not an expert ...
Now that some time has passed since the last update in this thread, is anybody out there any more knowlegable about the possibility of an "FM extract" ?
athanaso77 said:
Why don't you buy this?
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I had a look and it's an interesting device, but ...
No screen interface, station selection a bit bit and miss
Bigger than just headphones
I already have a Jabra wireless for car use, so this is overapping functionality
(my biggest issue)It needs it's own seperate power supply for recharging purposes. I'm big into convergence (that's why I bought the Kaiser!) so this is a no no
Some progress on this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=355524&page=210#2095
Now, it's not working. Yet.
Anyone have any comments on the possibility of the Polaris headset having something in it that the Kaiser's doesn't - & thus preventing the FM application from working in Kaiserland?
The thing is, I still find it hard to understand why HTC would change or add to the hardware of the Polaris just to get FM working - especially when the target audience for the 2 devices cannot be that different. Surely there is a big cost to make any mods on a standard platform?
But of course, this could simply be wishfull thinking on my side
I need to know which one includes the FM antenna, are these them?
http://www.expansys-usa.com/p.aspx?i=169462
If not, can you link me? I wanna test out this FM radio and see how it goes. Thanks.
Nevermind, found a headset that says it has the FM antenna built in... Wish me luck.
Black93300ZX said:
Nevermind, found a headset that says it has the FM antenna built in... Wish me luck.
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Which one?
Does it allow you to use your own headphones?
Jorlin said:
Which one?
Does it allow you to use your own headphones?
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I don't think so, honestly I don't care, I don't have a pair of my own headphones right now. No mp3 player... Which is why I have the Raphael.
HS S300 is coming with the device
Right now I am using a Senheisser with a converter, there is no problem with the musicplayer or fm-radio, everything is working fine
Hi All,
is there any FM transmitter app out there, if so, can some one please redirect me to the right link..
i could not able to locate the file.
thanks
HD2 doesn't have an FM transmitter...
LionheartUK said:
HD2 doesn't have an FM transmitter...
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Yes it does and no a app doesn't exist yet...wish it did though
Yeah, HD2 do have hardware for FM transmitting, but unfortunately no developers are keen to built an app for it...
why does htc make phones with a lot of hardware (like fm transmitting on leo, wifi on touch dual) but doesn't activate it?!?
someone NEEDS to come up with that app
LionheartUK said:
HD2 doesn't have an FM transmitter...
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Right
HD2 doesn't have hardware for an FM transmitter
MGOoO said:
Right
HD2 doesn't have hardware for an FM transmitter
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ok then, no fm transmitter then... on some places and forums people say there is one, so i don't know what it is anymore...
some issues
Hi,
My HD2 have about 2 months when i got it
and i need to tell you that twice i had strange situation :
In my work we have a public radio connected straight to intercom.
Twice there was a strange situation when i was playing some music
with Media Player. Everyone in my work have heard the same music
that i was playing on my HD2 . Maybe it is a problem with intercom
inside my company , but signal transmitting was noticed.
Wifi was off.
I always have very poor/zero reception with my standard network ( Orange )
so i think it could be network related.
You know ...searching a network ... getting acces to intercom for a short moment
and then transmitting .
Who knows.. but its possible .
Even a HTC didn't know that someone will create a program to
change HD2 into METAL DETECTOR .
(----sorry for my language----hope you will understand-----)
Hi all
I was seriously considering purchasing the nexus s when i saw that theres no mentioning of radio, and for someone who listen to radio a lot it kinda disappointed me.
is it true? will i have no radio if i buy the nexus s?
i guess you mean FM-Radio...
after all i read, is the chip fm-enabled, but the OS is not. so you would probably have to wait like on the Nexus One till some guys enable the FM software sided with an app or so!
mazinya said:
...is it true? will i have no radio if i buy the nexus s?
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No Fm.Radio is a disappointment
Sent from my Nexus One
Just use iheart radio or pandora if u have unlimited data iheart has local fm stations
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xrizwan said:
Just use iheart radio or pandora if u have unlimited data iheart has local fm stations
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Personally, I don't care about the FM radio, but your suggested solution isn't a complete one for a few reasons:
1) iHeart doesn't include all FM stations, pandora doesn't include any, I'm not sure Wunderradio has them all either (do all stations simulcast on the net?).
2) I think a full time data connection streaming is going to use more juice than an FM radio receiver. iHeart chews through my battery pretty quickly.
3) An FM radio should receive a signal in places that you may not get a stable data connection.
All the other options available to us are the reason I don't care about FM radio (commercials suck on FM radio), but for some it's still the preferred choice (maybe they like a particular DJ or morning crew...
Yes, i mean FM radio and i kinda listen to it a lot. This is realy disappointing to me. I also assume that enabling the chip means i will have to root the phone in order to use it right? which is something i also didnt want to do... guess i will have to wait for the next phone to come, choose something else or just compromise on the FM radio which is unlikely
rori~ said:
No Fm.Radio is a disappointment
Sent from my Nexus One
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Yeah, but does any SGS have FM?
theimpaler747 said:
Yeah, but does any SGS have FM?
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Yes, the i9000 does, out of the box. I think the Vibrant (T-Mo version) does, too.
I found this great Android app 'TuneIn Radio' on AppBrain: http://www.appbrain.com/app/tunein.player
This Should Help... All Radio Stations should be there and all it uses is Data.. For Free! Yay! =)
Sent From a Crop Circle... with a Nexus S
Oneplus Just released kernel sources for opx, that is FM capable and has an FM radio app. I don't know if this can help in porting the FM on opo. Sadly, spirit FM developer stated that is an hardware limitation.
Let me know what you think :/
OPO doesn't have an FM receiver so nothing could be done
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The OpO SOC is FM capable, however OnePlus didn't wire up the receiver to the headphone jack. No hope, unfortunately.
epiquiem said:
The OpO SOC is FM capable, however OnePlus didn't wire up the receiver to the headphone jack. No hope, unfortunately.
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So, definitely, there is a hardware limitation!
epiquiem said:
The OpO SOC is FM capable, however OnePlus didn't wire up the receiver to the headphone jack. No hope, unfortunately.
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I'm wondering why they did this!
Anyway, I was quite sure it was an hardware limitation. It's a pity :/
m i n a r said:
I'm wondering why they did this!
Anyway, I was quite sure it was an hardware limitation. It's a pity :/
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offtopic:
minar im still waiting for Antares update
manup85cupra said:
offtopic:
minar im still waiting for Antares update
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offtopic2: i'm working on it, i'm preparing the theme for CM13, fixing bugs, etc. I hope to update it in december!