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Am I the only one who thinks that the desire is more closely related to the dhd than to the original desire?
Same type of body, same cpu and gpu, same form factor (no physical buttons...), same amount of ram.
Actually I think that it has been a good idea of HTC to introduce this kind of device: many people are just scared of the big screen and similar size of devices such as the dhd, and the major flaw of the dhd, its mediocre battery life, has been improved by using a higher capacity battery. For people like myself - I'm using a topaz at the moment - it's actually a wonderful replacement.
I do agree that it's not the ultimate mobile experience that everyone has been waiting for, but on the other hand: I don't think any company will be able to produce a phone that will be 'the best' for more than 3 months: they are already talking about quad-core cpus that will be 5 times as fast as the previous generation. So why should HTC try to do that with évery phone they produce?
If I see people are talking about 'never buying an HTC for the rest of my life' or shouting things like 'RIP HTC' then I think that they should take all this into consideration. I'm pretty sure that HTC will produce another 'flagship' in the near future that will be able to keep up with the best of the other brands.
This is just my modest opinion of course...
Htc is going to be like sh...y Nokia. The same phones in other boxes.
DesireHD, Incredible S, Desires ... all the same with minor differences.
And what to choose? Will there be one or two a flagship model, that I would really like to have ?
Obviously almost everyone is disappointed with the HTC's new range of devices, Maybe they thought Adreno 205 will suffice the lack of dual core CPU for gaming? Or they are just holding them back until there is enough demand for such devices? Just wait and see.
BTW HTC were never the best at hardware department, and they may still believe their Sense will actually "sell" these sub-par devices !
Id like toadd here,nokias r **** besides the 3310 of course
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Since I don't have an Android phone yet, I'm really pleased that HTC are at least doing little updates to their products just before I'm in a position to buy one.
But if I already had a Desire, I'd be fairly non-plussed. The Desire S is little more than a change of packaging, like when Sony Ericsson replaced the K800 with the K810.
The Incredible S might make a nice upgrade from a Desire, but it's still not a huge step up.
Your right there not even an amoled screen
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Actually I think that it has been a good idea of HTC to introduce this kind of device: many people are just scared of the big screen and similar size of devices such as the dhd, and the major flaw of the dhd, its mediocre battery life, has been improved by using a higher capacity battery. For people like myself - I'm using a topaz at the moment - it's actually a wonderful replacement.
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This. Different strokes for different folks. In the real world, longer battery life is always good.
I've bought one for my girlfriends. She likes it!
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I've bought one for my girlfriends. She likes it!
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Pointless 10-post spam - Reported.
Looks like the best choice for those looking to upgrade to native Android on a dual core beast
Think I'll be holding on to my HD2 for an extra month as my upgrade is middle of May but will be released in mid June on official carrier partners so fingers crossed O2.
Read the live blog now: http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/12/live-from-htcs-april-12th-event/
Looks like a great phone to me and my ideal replacement.
Not impressed
I'm a bit disappointed to be honest. The Galaxy S 2 either matches or beats this phone in almost every respect. It's shorter, thinner and a lot lighter. It has 33% more RAM, and 16 times the onboard storage. The front camera has more than double the pixel count, and it has NFC support. While the HTC has a slightly higher screen resolution, it has a smaller screen area than the S2 because it has a higher aspect ratio (i.e. it's narrower).
It seems HTC can't even play catch-up very well now.
I think the Pyramid (I'm not keen on the new sensation name) is gonna be my next phone, though my upgrade isn't till next year so maybe something shinier will be around by then.
I have to admit the spec on the Galaxy S2 is impressive but i'm not feeling the looks. It honestly looks like a poorly executed iPhone4
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I'm a bit disappointed to be honest. The Galaxy S 2 either matches or beats this phone in almost every respect. It's shorter, thinner and a lot lighter. It has 33% more RAM, and 16 times the onboard storage. The front camera has more than double the pixel count, and it has NFC support. While the HTC has a slightly higher screen resolution, it has a smaller screen area than the S2 because it has a higher aspect ratio (i.e. it's narrower).
It seems HTC can't even play catch-up very well now.
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The samsung might be good on paper but living with them is a different story,ive had an i8910.looked great on paper at the time,great looking phone but build quility,a major let down,had 3 in total and gave up and got a htc hero at the time,htcs go on for years,much better built
I'm also not keen on the current Galaxy S's screen as comes across with a blue tint, the AMOLED screen doesn't seem to do white well at all. I'm guessing it'll be similar on the S2. Yeah it's smaller, lighter and thinner but I'm not keen on plastic phones tend to break easier, my HD2 has been dropped numerous times and survived with little evidence. I'm liking the Sensation alot regardless of paper comparisons.
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I had a samsung galaxy s and sold it with in 48 hours. I've had so many htc phones and really haven't had a complaint yet. plus htc just purchased cwm, so they care about our community here. And that's the most important to me.
On a side note. Tried the atrix and only liked the web top and hdmi out features. Sold it on the same day I got it. Still rocking the hd2.
Had my G1 up until about 3 months ago when i sold it for 150 and bought my brand new hd2. I am currently available for an upgrade on Tmobile. This will be my next new phone. I hope the 1500 ma battery can hang. I'm wondering if maybe the evo ed's 1750 ma battery will fit the sensation. If that is the case this is gonna be a great phone. It will be a great phone even if it doesnt fit. Since this is clearly a flagship phone I'm sure someone will make a case with the extra battery built in. I'm pumped for this phone. Congrats to me!
if you are claiming to be a high-end phone, and want to be acknowledged as such - and you don't have a freaking flash - you are immediately withdrawn from contention IMO. Therefore the Galaxy is not part of the discussion. I am tired of companies making phones they way they see fit and ignoring the basic needs of the consumers.
With that said, though I like what I am seeing, I am going to have to see what goes on with the AT& T merger. I can see them sneaking some language in there about having to roll over to AT&T if I get that particular phone. If T-mo DOES NOT merge this will be my next phone unless HTC or Motorola is coming out with a phone that sports Tegra for graphics/games.
Until then it will be me and my HD2.
The sensation will be my next phone for sure.
The biggest point for me is the qHD screen! I prefer the resolution over the SGS II as well as the body quality.
Doesn't hurt that there's dual mics for stereo recording of videos
My next phone. Period.
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if you are claiming to be a high-end phone, and want to be acknowledged as such - and you don't have a freaking flash - you are immediately withdrawn from contention IMO. Therefore the Galaxy is not part of the discussion. I am tired of companies making phones they way they see fit and ignoring the basic needs of the consumers.
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What are you talking about? The Galaxy S 2 most certainly has Adobe Flash 10.1.
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What are you talking about? The Galaxy S 2 most certainly has Adobe Flash 10.1.
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excuse me, flash for the camera. most of the world, with cell phones, don't live where there is daylight 24/7. utilization of facebook and other social media sites are major factors when considering a phone. to not have a flash, in 2011, is beyond asinine - irrespective of other specs and features.
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What are you talking about? The Galaxy S 2 most certainly has Adobe Flash 10.1.
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He's talking about camera flash. I was going to get this phone, but I decide to get the evo 3d. Sexier looking and has 1gig compared to 768 of sensation
t-mo recently sent me a text about upgrading to the Galaxy. Essentially, giving me an early upgrade option. I hope they do that with this phone (barring any merger shenanigans)
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He's talking about camera flash. I was going to get this phone, but I decide to get the evo 3d. Sexier looking and has 1gig compared to 768 of sensation
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thank you.
On the EVO note. I am really going to compare the EVO 3d and the Sensation. That merger might give me the get out of jail free card I need.
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thank you.
On the EVO note. I am really going to compare the EVO 3d and the Sensation. That merger might give me the get out of jail free card I need.
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Exactly what I was thinking, with the whole merger that it's going to be going down in the future.
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He's talking about camera flash.
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But it's got that too, so I still don't understand.
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The sensation will be my next phone for sure.
The biggest point for me is the qHD screen! I prefer the resolution over the SGS II as well as the body quality.
Doesn't hurt that there's dual mics for stereo recording of videos
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I know that you said you probably wouldn't have time to cook anything again but I always held hope that you would return with another completely innovative idea. Sad to know that you won't even be in this section anymore. Maybe that means I'll have to by a Pyramid and keep hoping over there .
any ideas if telstra or any other att 3g compatible carrier will be getting this? if so it will be my next phone.
Sensation will be this years phone, and i ll buy it.
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First off, I am an HTC fan. I am intensely brand loyal so please DO NOT begin with Hater/fanboy retorts. This is not why I created this thread. I actually have questions, that I hope some of you can answer/weigh in on objectively for me. Here goes.
I have been waiting to upgrade from my HD2 for almost a year now. The HD2 was my first HTC phone and I was hooked on its build quality and versatility. I had been really excited about the Sensation until i saw some of its specs and equipment. Of note, there are three key areas that are of vital importance to me: Ram, Storage and Battery.
I "assumed" that the Sensation, being a flagship phones, was going to blow the doors off anything in the dual core category. But after seeing these spec comparisons (http://firstain.com/index.php/2011/...roid-bionic-vs-lg-optimus-3d-thrill-4g-fight/) not only does the sensation not lead, but up against its primary competition, it trails the Galaxy and even its won Cousin, the EVO 3D, in these categories making it third. More importantly it comes with the smallest internal memory of ALL the phones being compared...
1. My first question and observation is this. If the EVO 3D has 1 gig RAM and 4gigs internal, why did they NOT do this for the Sensation? This could have been accomplished. Why was it not at least matched to make the phone better?
2. With regards to RAM an its significance see the attached videohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrCWYZkQRIo. (Go to the 7:35 mark). Why would a flagship phone be so limited out of the gate? This could have been addressed to make the phone better correct?
3. In terms of memory and how fast the phone will process functions, this comes from a review posted here:
"Flaws in this whole situation include the fact that while the Galaxy S II pairs its 1.2GHz dual-core with 1GB of RAM, the HTC Sensation uses just 768MB. Samsung’s device has 16GB of memory packed in, while HTC makes due with just 1GB. There’s an 8GB microSD card in there, but you can add a bunch more memory to the GSII the same way if you want. Davies notes the truth: “[T]here’s just no way that even a fast microSDHC card can be as quick as NANDFlash connected directly to the logic board, and that leaves the Sensation at a speed disadvantage.”
Do you buy what the reviewer is saying as opinion or fact? If fact, then, again, why is this offering by HTC not just below the Samsung rival, but that of the EVO 3D with its 1 gig RAM and 4 gig memory? Just questions, no flames please.
Lastly, anyone can attest, that has used a 4.3 inch HTC screen, that a primary complaint is battery life. I dare say that HTC customers make up the majority of people who put the Current Widget app on the map. We are always looking for tips and tricks to squeeze more juice out of the battery. With the screen being the biggest hog, I was sure that HTC would address this with the Sensation. Again, to their credit they did, but again in comparison to the Galaxy, EVO 3d and almost every other battery in the links above, is next to last.
Techradar's HTC Sensation Battery Review:
"We've always been slightly confused by HTC phones when it comes to the battery life, as they seem to offer wildly different experiences depending on who is using them it seems.
The HTC Desire was fine for us when it came to lasting a day, but others found it would be dead by 7PM. The Desire HD was more universally panned for a poor battery, but still some chastised our verdict of it being unacceptable.
Well, it's going to happen again with the HTC Sensation, as the battery life, to us, seems woeful and not up to scratch. We're talking dead by 8PM with no push email, minimal Wi-Fi and about 30 mins of music and video at the most.
We've cycled it a few times to see if it can be improved, but the same things happens: it holds charge averagely well mostly, but then will get very warm and discharge at a rate of 10% per hour... which is a familiar scenario with the Desire HD.
We constantly kept the applications killed and the notifications to a minimum - but it seems only turning off the background synchronisation altogether helped the issue. And don't even think about hammering the camera in the middle of the day, or you'll be without a phone come the evening for sure.
That said, we're going to request another sample to test this out with, as it's probably the poorest experience we've had on an HTC device so far, so it's only fair we test to make sure it wasn't just a diff unit.
http://www.techradar.com/reviews/pho...-943466/review?artc_pg=7
Again, I am brand loyal so I will be buying another HTC phone, but to be honest, these three areas were major concerns when I bought the hd2 and still are impacting me since I still use it. I will probably hold off on the Sensation because I don't want another "hd2/hd7" situation happening again. I want the best that htc can offer and I don't think they did that "IMO."I just want to know what you think the reasons are for the lack of details to the Sensation - in particular since the EVO 3D will not have theses problems. Thanks in advance.
PS - I know no phones is "perfect". This is being asked in light of technology today and expectations of HTC's manufacturing expertise.
simply put yes...
Of course they could have made it better. 1GB of RAM, 8GB of internal memory and a 1900 MAh battery like the Atrix. They could also have put a better screen in it (see Engadget's review: http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/27/htc-sensation-review/). Anyways, I think the battery life is acceptable, as it can last a full day on heavy use and I'm already used to charge every night.
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Of course they could have made it better. 1GB of RAM, 8GB of internal memory and a 1900 MAh battery like the Atrix. They could also have put a better screen in it (see Engadget's review: http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/27/htc-sensation-review/). Anyways, I think the battery life is acceptable, as it can last a full day on heavy use and I'm already used to charge every night.
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yeah, the thinking behind the features is a bit of a head scratcher to me. especially since I see the specs of the Evo 3D. maybe reaching the specs of the Atrix was not their intent with, but I the EVO clearly shows that they "could have" done a bit more for the Sensation. Its the "why not" that is thorn in my side. thanks.
It all comes down to sales and HTC will spec the phone to maximise their profit.
Some of us here at XDA will want the best of everything and be happy to pay for it.
But out in the rest of the world HTC have to be competative , and adding these upgrades will increase the handset price, and price for most people is a real factor in choosing a handset.
Between the SGS2 and the sensation there is very little differnce when you are using it, sure we can compare benchmarks and see a small difference but in the hand of the average consumer i think not. So HTC marketing team have estimated that this is the best set of features and price to maximise sales.
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It all comes down to sales and HTC will spec the phone to maximise their profit.
Some of us here at XDA will want the best of everything and be happy to pay for it.
But out in the rest of the world HTC have to be competative , and adding these upgrades will increase the handset price, and price for most people is a real factor in choosing a handset.
Between the SGS2 and the sensation there is very little differnce when you are using it, sure we can compare benchmarks and see a small difference but in the hand of the average consumer i think not. So HTC marketing team have estimated that this is the best set of features and price to maximise sales.
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First of all, thanks for the reply. I guess I have a hard time with this logic since I can clearly see that the EVO 3D is a step above the Sensation - and is coming to the market at the same time. Again, when I posed this question it stemmed from the fact that I have visual evidence of HTC having the capabilities to create a device that is on par or above the Galaxy.
I am just talking feature for feature. And in the three categories - that were important to me - the sensation was created below the bar. (Notice I DID NOT QUOTE BENCHMAARKS on purpose because I am willing to let the quadrant people make an app that "accurately" measures dual cores). The EVO and the Sensation will be priced relatively the same so I don't get the price factor making a difference. Hell, give me the specs of the EVO 3d and I will be the first in line on the 8th. That is all.
What I will say is...
When the Desire HD Came out... people warned against buying it simply because people considered it a "stop gap" in lue of upcomming dual cores.
After seeing the HTC Sensation I will NOT be purchasing it. This phone is a HUGE let down comming from the Desire HD.
I will wait till the IPhone 5 comes out and when HTC will release a TRUE Flagship phone.
BTW Dumb poll options.
Add : No will not purchase.
Most reviews are giving the phone lower then 8. Desire HD got 9-10/10.
My inspire 4G has a better screen then the Sensation.
I just don't get why they wouldn't put a gig of ram like they did on the EVO 3D. That's my main (and probably only) gripe. I guess they could have put more internal storage, but that's not a big deal. Engadget said in their testings that the battery life was better than what they got on the SGS II, so I guess it depends on who you ask.
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What I will say is...
When the Desire HD Came out... people warned against buying it simply because people considered it a "stop gap" in lue of upcomming dual cores.
After seeing the HTC Sensation I will NOT be purchasing it. This phone is a HUGE let down comming from the Desire HD.
I will wait till the IPhone 5 comes out and when HTC will release a TRUE Flagship phone.
BTW Dumb poll options.
Add : No will not purchase.
Most reviews are giving the phone lower then 8. Desire HD got 9-10/10.
My inspire 4G has a better screen then the Sensation.
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I am actually more dumbfounded than anything. I too was awaiting the arrival of this super phone but really am clueless about this phone in light of the EVO 3D's specs. I will wait as well. However, knowing HTC, they will release the proper sensation equivalent on at&t as a makeup for that crappy Inspire. Grrrrrrrr.
BTW, thanks for your "eloquent" poll suggestion. I tried to edit the post but did not see the option.
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I just don't get why they wouldn't put a gig of ram like they did on the EVO 3D. That's my main (and probably only) gripe. I guess they could have put more internal storage, but that's not a big deal. Engadget said in their testings that the battery life was better than what they got on the SGS II, so I guess it depends on who you ask.
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“[T]here’s just no way that even a fast microSDHC card can be as quick as NANDFlash connected directly to the logic board, and that leaves the Sensation at a speed disadvantage.”
According to this, more internal memory would be extremely beneficial speed wise. For the simple fact that its dubbed the "flag ship" you would think they would add internal memory as a basic premium. Guess not.
The evo 3d only has more ram cause of the actual 3d recording and pictures ability. If the evo 3d has 4 gig rom then most likely it has only 1 gig accessible to the user. Cause the system and the nand need memory space as well.
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I am actually more dumbfounded than anything. I too was awaiting the arrival of this super phone but really am clueless about this phone in light of the EVO 3D's specs. I will wait as well. However, knowing HTC, they will release the proper sensation equivalent on at&t as a makeup for that crappy Inspire. Grrrrrrrr.
BTW, thanks for your "eloquent" poll suggestion. I tried to edit the post but did not see the option.
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Hm.. not sure how to edit polls sorry!
I agree... I dont think the Sensation is a true upgrade from the Desire HD.... For 1, the SLCD is inferior to the One on the Inspire 4G. Secondly Aluminum UniBody what??? I havent held the phone so I cant give an accurate representation however when I imagine Uni Body I immagine...Desire HD and HTC Legend! To me the Sensation looks like its not a Unibody simply because half of it comes off I cant say if any1 else will agree with me, but people who have used the phone say that it does no have the same sturdy feel as the Desire HD.
It seems to me as if HTC took what was good with the Desire HD and just doubled it. And sure that is a good formual... but when all of your competiion is doubling + improving it... doubling alone is not enough.
ATM even if u have the original Desire I would say skip on the HTC Sensation.
**Just so its clear I am a HTC Fanboy, but srsly... HTC has been doing this sort of stuff from the Windows Mobile Days... its getting really ridicules. Don't want to see this happening on Android.
Edit: For those who dont know what I mean.. .In Win Mobil days with HTC u generally brought phones every 2 Generations... simply because between generations there was not a very big difference between phones.
I feel HTC may again start doing this with Android... and it is very disappointing!
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However, knowing HTC, they will release the proper sensation equivalent on at&t as a makeup for that crappy Inspire. Grrrrrrrr.
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Haha, they basically are. It's called the HTC Holiday. The only difference I've seen in the specs is that it has a 4.5" screen and 1 GB of RAM. I'd link an article, but I don't have enough posts.
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Haha, they basically are. It's called the HTC Holiday. The only difference I've seen in the specs is that it has a 4.5" screen and 1 GB of RAM. I'd link an article, but I don't have enough posts.
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Cheekie bastids!
Grrrrrrrrr!
The one thing I have to add is that RAM is relatively power hungry, so this may have been a factor after some poor battery performances in HTC phones recently.
After using this phone for a week, I can safely say It's not had any performance problems in my usage (web, gaming, video streaming, music playing, online purchases through apps, SIP and voice calls, 2g to WiFi connectivity). The only problem of note so far is that the music widget crashes Sense now and again, but having said that, it did with my HD2 on occasion too.
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Bottom line is that yes they could have made it better, but like others have said it's all down to sales.
While the world is trying to grab the fastest dual core phones which are at around 1.2ghz at the moment, don't think for a minute that the technology doesn't exist to make a 2.0ghz phone with 2gig of ram and even more internal storage with an even fatter battery, because not only does it exist but they are probably already testing it for future phones.
As consumers, we will get what we are given and have very little input as to what that will be, we can moan and moan at HTC or other companies but at the end of the day, it's always down to them.
The sensation will be a great phone i have no doubt but to move from the Desire HD for instance would be a mistake, the Evo 3d looks to be the better HTC phone on paper and will probably win overall when compared to the sensation.
There will be a tonne of people who will see this as the latest and greatest and will make HTC a load of cash so it's a win for HTC and a loss for us (the consumer) again.
Just hope that the dev's on XDA and other places can do their magic and make these phones work the way they were ment to, not how the likes of HTC think they should be, which imho is barely acceptable.
From what I have read, it looks like the Sensation has only the qHD upgraded from DHD, I am waiting for more deep reviews for the camera.
Speaker and screen sunlight performances are the same!
If only we could get a SGS2 with Sense 3.0...
i dont think ram is a big problem on this phone ...
i often get 170 mb free ram after kill all apps with taskmanager ...
i think when we need it we can get it .... especially if we want the most free ram we can get when we want to play games and stuff...
i dont think any app uses more than that at the moment
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Bottom line is that yes they could have made it better, but like others have said it's all down to sales.
While the world is trying to grab the fastest dual core phones which are at around 1.2ghz at the moment, don't think for a minute that the technology doesn't exist to make a 2.0ghz phone with 2gig of ram and even more internal storage with an even fatter battery, because not only does it exist but they are probably already testing it for future phones.
As consumers, we will get what we are given and have very little input as to what that will be, we can moan and moan at HTC or other companies but at the end of the day, it's always down to them.
The sensation will be a great phone i have no doubt but to move from the Desire HD for instance would be a mistake, the Evo 3d looks to be the better HTC phone on paper and will probably win overall when compared to the sensation.
There will be a tonne of people who will see this as the latest and greatest and will make HTC a load of cash so it's a win for HTC and a loss for us (the consumer) again.
Just hope that the dev's on XDA and other places can do their magic and make these phones work the way they were ment to, not how the likes of HTC think they should be, which imho is barely acceptable.
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Samsung Galaxy S II breaks 1m sales record in Korea
http://androidcommunity.com/samsung...essor-in-1h-2011-plus-4g-galaxy-tab-20110530/
The article above clearly shows that you can make a quality product, "push" the envelop on current current technology, get great reviews, break sales records AND sell it a price higher than the Sensation. The technology is there and some company's are using it now.
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The one thing I have to add is that RAM is relatively power hungry, so this may have been a factor after some poor battery performances in HTC phones recently.
After using this phone for a week, I can safely say It's not had any performance problems in my usage (web, gaming, video streaming, music playing, online purchases through apps, SIP and voice calls, 2g to WiFi connectivity). The only problem of note so far is that the music widget crashes Sense now and again, but having said that, it did with my HD2 on occasion too.
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How many hours can you go performing theses functions before you have to charge up again?
I believe that we have a truly amazing device in our hands. If you love your oneS then the least you could do is to write a good review about somewhere like on amazon or something especially since now we have some saboteurs trying to ruin our devices name and drop its rating to zero. But in actuality if our device gets horrible reviews no new developers will come here to work with our phones. I don't believe that is fair and so I am starting my own campaign called goodreview-Aday where I will give positive feedback on our device and rate it high on several major websites that sell our phone such as amazon eBay etc. Everybody can join me to keep development alive for our phone! If everybody not experiencing the alleged issue wrote one good review on one site their evil little "campaign" will have no chance!
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I believe that we have a truly amazing device in our hands. If you love your oneS then the least you could do is to write a good review about somewhere like on amazon or something especially since now we have some saboteurs trying to ruin our devices name and drop its rating to zero. But in actuality if our device gets horrible reviews no new developers will come here to work with our phones. I don't believe that is fair and so I am starting my own campaign called goodreview-Aday where I will give positive feedback on our device and rate it high on several major websites that sell our phone such as amazon eBay etc. Everybody can join me to keep development alive for our phone! If everybody not experiencing the alleged issue wrote one good review on one site their evil little "campaign" will have no chance!
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What's so amazing about this phone?
louis.b said:
What's so amazing about this phone?
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Only the best CPU chipset, better than the quad in the GS 3 and X (s4)
Amazing build/perceived quality compared to any other android mobile
Great design/looks
Amazing audio, which is only matched by the GS 3 and perhaps the iphone 5
One of the best cameras
Great battery life out of the box, again best there is for android phones
Fastest android mobile currently
IMO sense V4
Regarding the first post, developers won't go by "user reviews" on shop sites, they will look into all the hardware detail and kernel source/drivers/software stuff etc. and if they like what they see then they will buy it.
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Only the best CPU chipset, better than the quad in the GS 3 and X (s4)
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Not any more, HTC have reworked the One S to use the Snapdragon S3, and for most regions outside the US at least all newly manufactured units will be the revised spec.
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Amazing build/perceived quality compared to any other android mobile
Great design/looks
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Agreed, and now that they seem to have done something about the metal arc oxidation issues its build quality is great.
Terminator19 said:
Amazing audio, which is only matched by the GS 3 and perhaps the iphone 5
One of the best cameras
Great battery life out of the box, again best there is for android phones
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Yes, yes and yes, the Beats gimmick aside the regular audio output is of very good quality as GSMArena's measurements show. Camera is a delight to use, although the S3 version has a small buffer lag between shots. Battery life, surprisingly, seems to be very similar between the S3 and S4 models.
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Fastest android mobile currently
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The S4 version yes, the S3 version no.
IMO sense V4
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Yes, Sense 4 is really good, better than TouchWiz although I suspect most people on XDA prefer stock Android if it means faster updates
Personally, I think the One S was a really good phone when it launched, but the change to the S3 processor has changed my view of the model significantly; it is still a good phone for what it is but the price is too high for a phone using a 2010 chip.
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What's so amazing about this phone?
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Please don't be a ****. From your signature it looks like you don't even have this device. You are probably one of the trolls who wrote bad reviews.
I agree this device is amazing-but Htc needs to step up their game and provide S-Off and in general be more developer friendly -Htc Dev has done more harm then good it seems to me and recovery is a mess some use twrp others prefer cmw - If Htc would show better support It would be one the best phones to date Just my 2c
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Not any more, HTC have reworked the One S to use the Snapdragon S3, and for most regions outside the US at least all newly manufactured units will be the revised spec.
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And the UK still has quite a lot of S4's. Although S3's are being sold here as well, but not sure which places are selling only those versions. I think amazon are only supplying the S3 versions now. AFAIK the network shops still have supplies of the S4 version.
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but the price is too high for a phone using a 2010 chip.
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Completely agree about that with regards to the S3 version.
Regarding the battery and speed, I thought it was the other way round (in real world usage), battery much worse and performance isn't as good but for standard usage like games etc. there isn't a huge difference.
Doesn't help when no one has posted any info. on the battery of the S3 though i.e. screen shots and detailed info..........
jmcdonald58 said:
I agree this device is amazing-but Htc needs to step up their game and provide S-Off and in general be more developer friendly -Htc Dev has done more harm then good it seems to me and recovery is a mess some use twrp others prefer cmw - If Htc would show better support It would be one the best phones to date Just my 2c
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^Absolutely agree with this. Recovery really is a mess.
The rest of the device is overall good, but there are some cons to go with the pros.
+ Nice display, accurate colors. PenTile didn't bother me a bit. Great viewing angles and black is truly black, unlike on the Samsung devices where black appears blotchy. 4.3 for me seems the sweet spot for screen size and overall phone size.
+ Slimness of device is nearly unparalleled.
+ Speed (based on S4) is best-in-class
+ Battery life (on Sense ROMs) is excellent
+ Camera and Video capabilities are excellent
- Overall call quality on the latest two radios is awful. Crackling and full of static. This is subjective, and I'm in Los Angeles, which isn't known for amazing AT&T voice quality. This leads me to
- Inconsistent data speeds. Again subjective, but my Lumia 800 seems to pull down faster and more consistent speeds on the ATT HSPA network.
- SIM Cover starts to creak if you remove it more than the first time you install your SIM.
- Placement of the power button at top right for this tall a device is not ergonomic. AOSP/CM10-based ROMs enable wake via volume rocker, which is useful, but inconsistent.
- Saving the biggest for last, is the keyboard accuracy. The stock Sense keyboard is terrible, but the replacements in the market aren't much better. I consistently make ridiculous typing mistakes on Android's keyboards even after calibrating them. How many times do I have to type out 'The quick brown fox jumps over a lazy dog' in order to have it make a difference? This is, again, subjective, but with my large hands on a large device with plenty of screen real-estate, the keyboard should just work. And unfortunately on this device, it doesn't.
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^Absolutely agree with this. Recovery really is a mess.
The rest of the device is overall good, but there are some cons to go with the pros.
+ Nice display, accurate colors. PenTile didn't bother me a bit. Great viewing angles and black is truly black, unlike on the Samsung devices where black appears blotchy. 4.3 for me seems the sweet spot for screen size and overall phone size.
+ Slimness of device is nearly unparalleled.
+ Speed (based on S4) is best-in-class
+ Battery life (on Sense ROMs) is excellent
+ Camera and Video capabilities are excellent
- Overall call quality on the latest two radios is awful. Crackling and full of static. This is subjective, and I'm in Los Angeles, which isn't known for amazing AT&T voice quality. This leads me to
- Inconsistent data speeds. Again subjective, but my Lumia 800 seems to pull down faster and more consistent speeds on the ATT HSPA network.
- SIM Cover starts to creak if you remove it more than the first time you install your SIM.
- Placement of the power button at top right for this tall a device is not ergonomic. AOSP/CM10-based ROMs enable wake via volume rocker, which is useful, but inconsistent.
- Saving the biggest for last, is the keyboard accuracy. The stock Sense keyboard is terrible, but the replacements in the market aren't much better. I consistently make ridiculous typing mistakes on Android's keyboards even after calibrating them. How many times do I have to type out 'The quick brown fox jumps over a lazy dog' in order to have it make a difference? This is, again, subjective, but with my large hands on a large device with plenty of screen real-estate, the keyboard should just work. And unfortunately on this device, it doesn't.
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Recoveries come from our local friendly developers if your recovery is a mess contact them it is no way htcs fault. I love this phone despite no s-off. And that's okay for me lol we will steal it from the Onex one day lol.
For the new radios and your crackling problem, most unlocked android devices have this issue when you unlock them I have a sidekick 4g on att right now and this on tmob and there is a compareable difference
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I absolutely love this device. I had the choice between the one s and the s3 and chose this one and am really pleased. It fits my hands perfectly and outperforms most devices. The battery life is unparalleled. I average 4 to 6 hours on screen time while some friends with s3's only get 2 hours with power saving on. The lack of s off is little annoying but not that big of a deal for me since my hboot is so low. As for the people spreading negative reviews in hopes to "teach HTC a lessons" this is a horrible approach. Operation rolling thunder should be stopped!!
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Terminator19 said:
And the UK still has quite a lot of S4's. Although S3's are being sold here as well, but not sure which places are selling only those versions. I think amazon are only supplying the S3 versions now. AFAIK the network shops still have supplies of the S4 version.
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Just wanted to mention that on Tuesday 11/09/2012 i received my nice new htc one s from talktalk.co.uk ( run on vodafone network) and it is a Z560e model (Ville C aka S3) version, personally i am not to bothered but figured worth mention for anyone who maybe intrested in UK
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Only the best CPU chipset, better than the quad in the GS 3 and X (s4)
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? better ? u idiot.
Just because it's A15Krait u got 2 cores....that GUN Exynos 4412 have it A9 but 4 cores son.
Which is rapes your HTC one S.. I didn't talk about ****ty Adrenno 225....which is garbage.
So don't talk about better or not.
My One S
My S one is about 5 months old. After years as a Nokia fan-boy I finally gave in and reluctantly jumped ship. So I was presented with a problem: Which phone do I get. I won't be taking up a place in a queue for the new iPhone 5 with the iSheep - as a Ubuntu user getting an android was a no-brainer. I chose the One S because 1/ it wasn't Samsung (my personal prejudice) 2/ the One X was slightly too big for my taste.
I know Nokia missed a very big boat by sticking with Symbian for so long, but on a personal level I was happy because I know them inside out I can mod them easily and enjoyed playing about with them despite the limitations. In fact the limitations made it more of a challenge and more interesting.Eventually the lack of progress Symbian was making, combined with the fact that Nokia jumped in to bed with Micros*#t forced my hand. So to be honest, I waited for T-Mobile to deliver my One S with very little enthusiasm. That's changed. I love my One S.
So as it's my first Android I can't say its any better or worse than a Galaxy III, a WildFire or a Nexus. I do know that I am very happy with it. On the hardware side I am happy about the lovely big screen, the slim casing and the nice finish. I am very happy with the processor speed and flawless screen refresh. Battery life could be better, but I will never be happy with battery life. Software wise, I am happy that there are people out there making ROMs which while flawed are keeping me very busy and making me feel like I have a new phone every week or so. I am happy that I have a JB based ROM while HTC has yet to release the "official" JB for the One S.
Which is all a long winded way of saying I love it.
avetny said:
? better ? u idiot.
Just because it's A15Krait u got 2 cores....that GUN Exynos 4412 have it A9 but 4 cores son.
Which is rapes your HTC one S.. I didn't talk about ****ty Adrenno 225....which is garbage.
So don't talk about better or not.
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Nice grammar, who is the idiot?
Obviously, you have no clue, "OMG has quad, must be better!"
Firstly lets have a look at performance, shall we?
Have a look at these benchmarks of the X (s4 version) compared to the GS 3:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9300_galaxy_s_iii-review-761p5.php
Notice how any test, which relies solely on the CPU is better on the S/X (S4)? Take it that isn't enough? Here have another benchmark comparison by another expert site:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5868/htc-one-s-review-international-and-tmobile/3
Once again, notice the CPU dependant tests?
Heck even the one S and XL holds it own very well in the other tests that are reliant on the GPU etc.
So much better performance per core (which is much better rather than having an extra 2 cores considering nearly every android app still doesn't fully utilise dual core let alone quad, therefore the much better performance for one core is better!).
However, that is just benchmarks, which only shows the potential power and doesn't really relate to real world usage. Have you actually used the mobiles yourself and compared tasks to see which is quicker?
I have (along with many others phones) and the S is the quickest/snappiest android device there is, quicker than the GS 3 especially in launching/loading apps, game levels, installing apps/games, loading thumbnails in the gallery etc.
Now onto battery life/power efficiency:
Lets take the XL for this test as it is more fair since it has the 720P res. and bigger screen, although it does have a much smaller battery compared to the GS 3, but have a look here anyway:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5868/htc-one-s-review-international-and-tmobile/2
Although I always take benchmarks for battery life with a pinch of salt as they aren't exactly a great representative when it comes to real world usage.
But reading through many posts, XL users are able to get up 6 hours on screen time (auto brightness) spread across 1-2 days, where as the best that GS 3 users seem to get is around 5 hours spread across 1-2 days, on average the XL users are getting 4-5 hours on screen time with 1-3 days usage and on average the GS 3 users are getting 3-4 hours on screen time spread across 1-2 days.
Can you read the graphs ok?
Also nothing wrong with the battery life on my stock S and same goes for many other people. Like to see GS 3 users get the same as me with my usage......
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27665378#post27665378
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27010378#post27010378
Now onto the heat that the chips generate, well there simply is no contest in this area, here is a video comparing the S4 to the exynos dual core chip used in the GS 2 and some other CPU, which is used in one of Motorola's phones:
And the exynos quad won't run any cooler than the S4.
Oh and yup the adreno 225 combined with the S4 is real xxxxx, oh wait..........
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6121/glbenchmark-25-performance/2
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Saving the biggest for last, is the keyboard accuracy. The stock Sense keyboard is terrible, but the replacements in the market aren't much better. I consistently make ridiculous typing mistakes on Android's keyboards even after calibrating them. How many times do I have to type out 'The quick brown fox jumps over a lazy dog' in order to have it make a difference? This is, again, subjective, but with my large hands on a large device with plenty of screen real-estate, the keyboard should just work. And unfortunately on this device, it doesn't.
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I personally find the typing is very good even with the sense keyboard.
With swiftkey it is even better!
Terminator19 said:
Nice grammar, who is the idiot?
Obviously, you have no clue, "OMG has quad, must be better!"
Firstly lets have a look at performance, shall we?
Have a look at these benchmarks of the X (s4 version) compared to the GS 3:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9300_galaxy_s_iii-review-761p5.php
Notice how any test, which relies solely on the CPU is better on the S/X (S4)? Take it that isn't enough? Here have another benchmark comparison by another expert site:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5868/htc-one-s-review-international-and-tmobile/3
Once again, notice the CPU dependant tests?
Heck even the one S and XL holds it own very well in the other tests that are reliant on the GPU etc.
So much better performance per core (which is much better rather than having an extra 2 cores considering nearly every android app still doesn't fully utilise dual core let alone quad, therefore the much better performance for one core is better!).
However, that is just benchmarks, which only shows the potential power and doesn't really relate to real world usage. Have you actually used the mobiles yourself and compared tasks to see which is quicker?
I have (along with many others phones) and the S is the quickest/snappiest android device there is, quicker than the GS 3 especially in launching/loading apps, game levels, installing apps/games, loading thumbnails in the gallery etc.
Now onto battery life/power efficiency:
Lets take the XL for this test as it is more fair since it has the 720P res. and bigger screen, although it does have a much smaller battery compared to the GS 3, but have a look here anyway:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5868/htc-one-s-review-international-and-tmobile/2
Although I always take benchmarks for battery life with a pinch of salt as they aren't exactly a great representative when it comes to real world usage.
But reading through many posts, XL users are able to get up 6 hours on screen time (auto brightness) spread across 1-2 days, where as the best that GS 3 users seem to get is around 5 hours spread across 1-2 days, on average the XL users are getting 4-5 hours on screen time with 1-3 days usage and on average the GS 3 users are getting 3-4 hours on screen time spread across 1-2 days.
Can you read the graphs ok?
Also nothing wrong with the battery life on my stock S and same goes for many other people. Like to see GS 3 users get the same as me with my usage......
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27665378#post27665378
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27010378#post27010378
Now onto the heat that the chips generate, well there simply is no contest in this area, here is a video comparing the S4 to the exynos dual core chip used in the GS 2 and some other CPU, which is used in one of Motorola's phones:
And the exynos quad won't run any cooler than the S4.
Oh and yup the adreno 225 combined with the S4 is real xxxxx, oh wait..........
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6121/glbenchmark-25-performance/2
I personally find the typing is very good even with the sense keyboard.
With swiftkey it is even better!
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Closed Source Project said:
Please don't be a ****. From your signature it looks like you don't even have this device. You are probably one of the trolls who wrote bad reviews.
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Just because I dont own it doesnt mean I havent used it. I work for a phone shop and my co-worker has this phone. I think it's "interesting" to see HTC uses the S3 in the version sold in all regions in Asian Pacific, and yet charges the same price as the S4 version. Not sure how amazing Sense 4.1 will be once it comes but from what I've seen out of the box it's laggy. But I guess it's gonna really a big injustice since no-one asks for it anyway. Everyone buys either Samsung or Apple or (rarely) One X.
I think I should shut my mouth because when people say the truth on here they are often mistaken for being trolls and get banned. Scary.
laggy? sense 4.0 on my one s is less laggy than my friends SGS3 and even iphone4.
you sir, are biased and doesnt know what you are talking about.
and about the phones people buy, that has to do nothing with the wellness of the phones, its absolutely marketing, which HTC lacks alot.
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laggy? sense 4.0 on my one s is less laggy than my friends SGS3 and even iphone4.
you sir, are biased and doesnt know what you are talking about.
and about the phones people buy, that has to do nothing with the wellness of the phones, its absolutely marketing, which HTC lacks alot.
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Biased? lol yeah right I dont even own those phones. And to say that sense 4.0 is smoother than Touchcrap 4.0 and iOS5 is just outright lying. Yes it's smoother than sense 3.0 but it's still laggy and I have been following the One X long enough to know that A LOT OF people complain about how laggy sense 4.0 was.
And FYI people dont ask about HTC not because HTC doesnt advertise enough. As a matter of fact a lot people know about them. They just dont buy them because HTC has the reputation of making buggy phones. And as a former owner of 2 HTC phones I cant say I disagree.
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Just because I dont own it doesnt mean I havent used it. I work for a phone shop and my co-worker has this phone. I think it's "interesting" to see HTC uses the S3 in the version sold in all regions in Asian Pacific, and yet charges the same price as the S4 version. Not sure how amazing Sense 4.1 will be once it comes but from what I've seen out of the box it's laggy. But I guess it's gonna really a big injustice since no-one asks for it anyway. Everyone buys either Samsung or Apple or (rarely) One X.
I think I should shut my mouth because when people say the truth on here they are often mistaken for being trolls and get banned. Scary.
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You got an S3, didn't you? I'm sorry about that and have been quite out-spoken about HTC's idiotic behavior regarding other countries, but the S4 One S is a great piece of machinery.
I have never had on hands experience with the S3 version so can't comment on it, however, when I have had my S4 one S side by side with the GS 3 (quad) and the 4s, the one S has been quicker/snappier/instant smartphone and the GS 3 appears smoother overall, although this is largely down to the animations and the animation scaling used, when JB arrives on both phones there should be no difference at all then really, in terms of smoothness.
I have found the 4s/4 to be laggy in quite a few places personally and not as silky smooth as what many people make it out to be.
Also, the one X hardware (tegra 3) was very poorly optimized with sense/ICS, when the mobile was first released, it was so laggy and nowhere as instant as the one S (S4), since the last update it has improved somewhat, however, still not as good as the S (S4) and GS 3, with JB it should be much better as the nexus 7 has the exact same hardware and it is smoother and faster than both the GS 3 and S, of course assuming HTC don't **** up with driver optimisation on sense Vxx whatever it will be with JB.
Regarding why people don't get HTC handsets, yes for some reason people seem to think they're an awful company with poor phones, I would have agreed with some of their phones (largely the desire HD, IMO their worst phone), however, most of their phones (especially the one series) are actually very good and out of the people I know who have a HTC android device have been very happy with theirs and not had any problems (a lot of people absolutely love sense, the homescreen and widgets impresses the "average joes" a lot). And it does largely come down to marketing/brand in the end, as in the UK here, the majority of ads that I see on TV, posters on bus stops etc. is for the GS 3, iphone, GS 2, galaxy ACE & Ace 2 (the Ace mobiles are bundled with very good network deals though, the ads aren't actually for the phones themselves) along with a few for the one X and virtually no ads at all for the one S (still have not seen a single ad on TV for the one S), people automatically recognise the GS 3 and iphones where as with the likes of HTC phones people aren't sure about them and automatically think they aren't good since they never heard of them.
It is a shame because HTC did start the "empire" of android with the hero, desire and nexus one, dread to think where android would be now if it weren't for them.
I've been using an HTC One X from AT&T since last summer on Scott's various CleanROMs and have really enjoyed the phone. It was excellent. Then, the HTC One was announced. I was immediately envious and having already used my upgrade, I knew it would be a long time before I had one.
A couple of weeks ago, I was listening to SiriusXM on my HTC One X via LG's bluetooth headset and I was just having a grand time until I pulled the phone from my pocket to notice that the screen was no longer lighting up. It was responsive, the phone worked, touch worked, but you couldn't see anything. AT&T replaced it under warranty and I had a brand new HTC One X on the 3.18 unhackablefornow update.
I couldn't live like that. I tried. I spent a week hating my phone, the very hardware I'd loved for so long.
After the wife got sick of me complaining, I got the demand to go buy whatever I wanted if I'd just stop complaining. I got the HTC One Dev Edition and have had a couple of days with it. It's really nice, feels great in hand, the front speakers sound great, Blinkfeed is annoying, but the rest is fine. The 64gb is really the only thing that is dramatically different though. The IR remote is sort of cool I suppose, but nothing that I'll probably use with any real frequency. I like that the USB hole is in the bottom now too instead of hanging out the side so awkwardly.
The point of all this? For those with your HTC One Xes that are just rocking along and doing exactly what you like, there's hardly a reason to "upgrade". I like certainly like the beveled screen on the One X more--the One has a raised edge, so exactly the opposite of how smooth and nice the One X is. The aluminum case is sure slick looking and feels nice, but I like the rubberized plastic on the One X. It sits nicer on your lap/leg/dash/sofa/etc. too. And for some reason, the damn on/off button is moved to the other side of the phone. I'll get used to that I suppose, but why? It was in a fine spot before on the previous generation, why move it?
Anyway, I'm certainly not trying to bash HTC. Both phones are excellent and w/ the 64gb, it's sort of the phone I've always looked forward to owning so my whole music collection could be at my finger tips. If you're on the fence though, there's not a lot of reason to ditch that reliable device we've all loved over the past year. Enjoy it and wait for the next thing and buy it when you're due for an upgrade, not for $650.
I hope that helps some of you that were drooling every time the thing came on the TV like I was.
Hopefully there will be an exploit for the One X on 3.18 one of these days and I'll turn the new One X into a great little back up phone/tablet.
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I've been using an HTC One X from AT&T since last summer on Scott's various CleanROMs and have really enjoyed the phone. It was excellent. Then, the HTC One was announced. I was immediately envious and having already used my upgrade, I knew it would be a long time before I had one.
A couple of weeks ago, I was listening to SiriusXM on my HTC One X via LG's bluetooth headset and I was just having a grand time until I pulled the phone from my pocket to notice that the screen was no longer lighting up. It was responsive, the phone worked, touch worked, but you couldn't see anything. AT&T replaced it under warranty and I had a brand new HTC One X on the 3.18 unhackablefornow update.
I couldn't live like that. I tried. I spent a week hating my phone, the very hardware I'd loved for so long.
After the wife got sick of me complaining, I got the demand to go buy whatever I wanted if I'd just stop complaining. I got the HTC One Dev Edition and have had a couple of days with it. It's really nice, feels great in hand, the front speakers sound great, Blinkfeed is annoying, but the rest is fine. The 64gb is really the only thing that is dramatically different though. The IR remote is sort of cool I suppose, but nothing that I'll probably use with any real frequency. I like that the USB hole is in the bottom now too instead of hanging out the side so awkwardly.
The point of all this? For those with your HTC One Xes that are just rocking along and doing exactly what you like, there's hardly a reason to "upgrade". I like certainly like the beveled screen on the One X more--the One has a raised edge, so exactly the opposite of how smooth and nice the One X is. The aluminum case is sure slick looking and feels nice, but I like the rubberized plastic on the One X. It sits nicer on your lap/leg/dash/sofa/etc. too. And for some reason, the damn on/off button is moved to the other side of the phone. I'll get used to that I suppose, but why? It was in a fine spot before on the previous generation, why move it?
Anyway, I'm certainly not trying to bash HTC. Both phones are excellent and w/ the 64gb, it's sort of the phone I've always looked forward to owning so my whole music collection could be at my finger tips. If you're on the fence though, there's not a lot of reason to ditch that reliable device we've all loved over the past year. Enjoy it and wait for the next thing and buy it when you're due for an upgrade, not for $650.
I hope that helps some of you that were drooling every time the thing came on the TV like I was.
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I hate to say it, but I have to agree, having now owned both. I just walked into an AT&T store to check it out in person several days before upgrading, and after flipping through the UI, I was not 100% impressed with it compared to the One X. I mean, sure, the specs are an improvement by comparison and it's something that I'm happy with purchasing, but if my HOX wasn't broken and/or I wasn't able to get an upgrade, I would have been ok with saving my money.
I really like the build quality. I don't have any of the crazy gaps people are talking about. It feels nice, looks nice, and sounds great.
What I don't like compared to the HOX is Sense 5. I really thought it was going to be better than Sense 4+ but it's not. I haven't rooted/unlocked it, and have no immediate plans to, but I hate how I can't edit the icons on the dock. Also, the dock follows you into the app tray. That SUCKS. Blink feed is annoying and you can't disable it...only change your homescreen to another tile. I also find that I like the capacitive buttons on the HOX way better. Half the time, they don't light up on the One and aren't that sensitive. And, what's the deal with HTC and hating capacitive buttons?! THe Inspire 4G had 4 buttons, the HOX had 3, and now the One has 2! Pretty soon, we'll only have "One." (See what I did there ) One final thing that seems annoying is for me, at least, when the display is on Auto Brightness, I seen to experience a weird flicker on the display. I don't know if it's just me, my particular phone, or what, but it is annoying.
If you need to have the latest and greatest, then stop reading this pointless drivel and go buy one. Otherwise, root and rom on with your HOX.
Of course, these are just my 2 cents. I could be wrong.
Thanks! Ive been on the fence, but don't have an upgrade. this makes me feel a little better
the biggest difference is
battery life and speakers
- both have amazing screen (the htc one seems to have better whites imo, and more a bit more color, and its a bit sharper, but the one x is a bit brighter and has the floating screen effect that the one sadly doesnt have)
- both are snappy (htc one, a bit faster)
cameras - both plus and negatives, i would say HTC ONE (overall), htc one x takes nice images in sunlight though
but yeah, the speaker on the one x is a disgrace, its weird how they went from worst speaker to best speakers lol
Just placed my order for the One on T-mobile. My One XL needs a new mainboard so I guess it's just going to be a nice paperweight for the time being.
I'm really curious to see how well I like it. I'll get it on Tuesday. I only played around with the display model at bestbuy but it was locked up tighter than fort knox.. You couldn't even swipe over the screen because it had a security lock covering the whole ting.
Which one to grab!
I have ordered One XL last week after lots of hesitation between it and the One, and this review from someone who owns both kinda support my choice, thanks
I have played with both devices in store, of course studied specs/hardware of both and worked out what my needs are and what I can/can't live with. I never buy phones on contracts so cost is an important factor here. My personal choice is based mainly on following:
ONE:
Pros: design, battery, cpu
Cons: the worst (for me) is the 2 buttons-logo combination instead for the usual and more reasonable 3 buttons, I can't get pass this for a $$$ flagship. Expensive compared to my other option, poor DIY-repairability which is important for me (regardless of warranty status).
ONE XL:
Pros: design, has 3 capacitive buttons, good deals for sim-free or pay as you go with available cheap carrier unlocking (Europe), much better DIY-repairability.
Cons: battery but can be changed to HOX+ battery 2100 mAh.
Cheers!
I've played with the (white) One and the S4 in the store. I hated the fact that the one is longer and somewhat bigger than the HOX. Although I have 2 available upgrades on my family plan, both att unlimited data grandfathered, I left the store without a new device. They didn't have any black ones at the time, I'll go back again to check that one out... Otherwise don't feel like upgrading.
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mjwitt2 said:
but I hate how I can't edit the icons on the dock. Also, the dock follows you into the app tray.
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I own both phones, and you can edit the apps in the dock, you just have to do exactly what you said above... go to the app tray and you can edit the apps in the dock from there (probably why the dock follows you to the app tray )
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I own both phones, and you can edit the apps in the dock, you just have to do exactly what you said above... go to the app tray and you can edit the apps in the dock from there (probably why the dock follows you to the app tray )
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Hmm.. How about that! Thanks!
I own both phones. I've had the One XL since launch day (1 year, 9 days ago) and I bought the One a couple of days ago as a replacement. Perhaps I can shed some light on the differences between the two phones for those of you who are considering one of the two. Sorry for the long post, but I felt I should be thorough.
HTC One vs HTC One XL Comparison
This is just a strict comparison about random aspects of the two phones... There isn't really any order to it; it's more of just a long rant about the differences. I'll start off the comparison in my favorite way - looking at what's wrong with the new device.
Cons of the HTC One:
Physical Design: Since the plastic sides of the silver phone is white, the whole aluminum body looks white if you give it a quick glance. I hate white phones with a passion but aluminum is my favorite color so it's a trade off for me. Of course, this is a personal preference and will vary depending on the user. Other items regarding the physical layout of the phone include the size. The One is the same width as the One XL but it is slightly longer. If you were to take the One XL and add on a second row of capacitive buttons they would be the same size. Personally, I feel that the One's "aspect ratio" is better, but the phone is kind of long for my tastes. The iPhone 5 is a better size in my opinion, but again, this is just personal preference. Another thing that may or may not be of concern to you depending on whether you use a case is how easily the phone slips into your pocket. The One has sharp edges (similar to a macbook) so it doesn't slip into your pocket as easily. Similarly, since the edges are all made out of aluminum the phone will dent if you drop it on a hard surface. (So don't drop it)
Capacative Buttons: The One only has 2 capacitive buttons compared to the 3 that the One XL has which is super annoying. HTC did this to comply with Google's design guidelines but other manufacturers *cough* Samsung *cough* have ignored this suggestion. They should have made the HTC logo a capacitive button as well. The touch pad doesn't fully extend that far off the screen, so even with a custom kernel the HTC logo only works "sometimes" as a button. I believe this is an engineering problem that could be attributed to AT&T. The HTC logo is not clear and it does not light up; it is painted on underneath the screen - the same as the logo at the top of the One XL's screen - in metallic lettering. If they had put a capacitive sensor above the logo it would constantly interfere with the metallic paint (This is my personal theory, but I think it's sound).
Another disadvantage of the One is the software isn't as mature as the One XL. The One XL is at the peak of it's development cycle; there are very few bugs and everything has been optimized. The One is new to the game and we're still waiting for HTC to release new kernel sources along with everything else. Developers are still trying to figure out how to work with the phone. The developer of the ROM I use, for instance, doesn't even own the phone yet!
Carrier Loyalty: As with the One XL, AT&T gets special privileges. AT&T is the only carrier who gets a black HTC One. They're also the only carrier who offers a 64GB version (The Developer Edition also has a 64GB version but it is only offered in silver).
Pros of the HTC One:
The HTC One isn't all bad though, not by a long shot. It has many numerous advantages over the One XL.
3rd Party Support: One of the best things about the One is that the phone is standardized among all carriers. You can buy a case in the Sprint store and it will work on your T-Mobile One. Additionally, all GSM phones (International, AT&T, T-Mobile, Developer Edition) can flash the same ROMs without having to worry about bricking the device. In many ROMs you just select what version you'd like your phone to be optimized for. This helps with development immensely! I'm so glad HTC did this. Supposedly the One will also be HTC's only flagship phone for this year, so you don't have to worry about an HTC One+ coming out in 4 months. I'm also very pleased to see that every carrier has put out advertisements for the One. I've seen many of them all over TV and even some in movie theaters. This is where HTC messed up last year. Unless the individual phone sells well 3rd parties won't make accessories for it.
The only real difference between the GSM variants is that the T-Mobile version includes more radio bands. Thus, if you want to get the most versatile version like me, get the T-Mobile version. It's also unbranded so it has no logos (aside from the "beatsaudio" logo on the back which the One XL also has)!
Physical Construction: The HTC One feels very solid in your hand thanks to the "zero-gap" construction. This means that the entire back/sides of the phone are all one piece. The plastic accents are all bonded to the aluminum backing, so it is similar to the One XL in that regard. Because the aluminum and plastic is CNC'd out in one piece you can consider it as a single unit; you will never feel the plastic injections with your finger unless you have a defective unit. It's somewhat similar to the unibody design of the One XL minus the speaker grills which are separate pieces - you can feel the transition between those pieces and the screen. This is normal.
Audio and Video Recording: The recording quality of the One is indisputable. It is simply superb. You can record video at a night club and actually enjoy the music and video afterwards. The microphone is insanely good. The video camera is designed to excel under low light conditions. One consequence of this is that the One's camera is only 4MP (slightly higher than 1080p) instead if the XL's 8MP. This means that the camera is great for what most people will use it for, but unfortunately I can no longer carry around my phone as a dedicated camera replacement (for vacations and things where I want a little better picture quality).
Performance: The One is FAST! Using 3DMark's new application you can test the gaming performance among various platforms. The HTC One GPU is actually more powerful than a nVidia 7900GS videocard (think precursor to the 8800GT)! I actually had one of those in my gaming PC a couple of years ago. To me this is insane. To think that my phone is more powerful than the higher-end gaming PC I built in 2006 (in some tests).
Battery Life: The battery life in the One is pretty good. I'm getting around 4.5 hours of on-screen time but I'm still tuning the phone. I've only had it for 3 days. The battery isn't even settled yet. I'm sure in 2 weeks I'll be seeing 7+ hours on-screen time once I get everything sorted out.
IR Remote: One small thing that no one thinks of is the HTC One's IR blaster integrated into the One's power button. You can now control all of your home theater equipment using your phone. This is very handy for people like me who always find themselves on the couch with their phone in their hand but don't want to take the time to search for the remote. HTC even includes a little TV guide app that lets you select a specific show and it will automatically change the channel for you. I like this!
Fixes from other Phones: The HTC One's notification LED is fixed from the One XL. It is bright and you can actually see it from all angles. The HTC One XL has an almost useless notification LED and can only be viewed when looking from the phone straight on. I once had a coworker stare at my One XL for 2 minutes before he asked me whether something was blinking. He thought it was but he wasn't entirely sure. The One has solved this very annoying problem.
Storage Space: The One has much more storage space than the One XL. The 32GB version has about 25GB of usable space where as the 16GB One XL only has about 9GB. This is nice if you're thinking about replacing an MP3 player or like to have mobile videos stored locally.
This is all I can stand to type for now. I'm sure I forgot stuff but I'll have to wait until I'm at a computer to finish the comparison. If you liked the review click thanks please.
Sent from my HTC One, edited on my laptop
ECEXCURSION said:
I own both phones. I've had the One XL since launch day (1 year, 9 days ago) and I bought the One a couple of days ago as a replacement. Perhaps I can shed some light on the differences between the two phones for those of you who are considering one of the two. Sorry for the long post, but I felt I should be thorough.
HTC One vs HTC One XL Comparison
This is just a strict comparison about random aspects of the two phones... There isn't really any order to it; it's more of just a long rant about the differences. I'll start off the comparison in my favorite way - looking at what's wrong with the new device.
Cons of the HTC One:
Physical Design: Since the plastic sides of the silver phone is white, the whole aluminum body looks white if you give it a quick glance. I hate white phones with a passion but aluminum is my favorite color so it's a trade off for me. Of course, this is a personal preference and will vary depending on the user. Other items regarding the physical layout of the phone include the size. The One is the same width as the One XL but it is slightly longer. If you were to take the One XL and add on a second row of capacitive buttons they would be the same size. Personally, I feel that the One's "aspect ratio" is better, but the phone is kind of long for my tastes. The iPhone 5 is a better size in my opinion, but again, this is just personal preference. Another thing that may or may not be of concern to you depending on whether you use a case is how easily the phone slips into your pocket. The One has sharp edges (similar to a macbook) so it doesn't slip into your pocket as easily. Similarly, since the edges are all made out of aluminum the phone will dent if you drop it on a hard surface. (So don't drop it)
Capacative Buttons: The One only has 2 capacitive buttons compared to the 3 that the One XL has which is super annoying. HTC did this to comply with Google's design guidelines but other manufacturers *cough* Samsung *cough* have ignored this suggestion. They should have made the HTC logo a capacitive button as well. The touch pad doesn't fully extend that far off the screen, so even with a custom kernel the HTC logo only works "sometimes" as a button. I believe this is an engineering problem that could be attributed to AT&T. The HTC logo is not clear and it does not light up; it is painted on underneath the screen - the same as the logo at the top of the One XL's screen - in metallic lettering. If they had put a capacitive sensor above the logo it would constantly interfere with the metallic paint (This is my personal theory, but I think it's sound).
Another disadvantage of the One is the software isn't as mature as the One XL. The One XL is at the peak of it's development cycle; there are very few bugs and everything has been optimized. The One is new to the game and we're still waiting for HTC to release new kernel sources along with everything else. Developers are still trying to figure out how to work with the phone. The developer of the ROM I use, for instance, doesn't even own the phone yet!
Carrier Loyalty: As with the One XL, AT&T gets special privileges. AT&T is the only carrier who gets a black HTC One. They're also the only carrier who offers a 64GB version (The Developer Edition also has a 64GB version but it is only offered in silver).
Pros of the HTC One:
The HTC One isn't all bad though, not by a long shot. It has many numerous advantages over the One XL.
3rd Party Support: One of the best things about the One is that the phone is standardized among all carriers. You can buy a case in the Sprint store and it will work on your T-Mobile One. Additionally, all GSM phones (International, AT&T, T-Mobile, Developer Edition) can flash the same ROMs without having to worry about bricking the device. In many ROMs you just select what version you'd like your phone to be optimized for. This helps with development immensely! I'm so glad HTC did this. Supposedly the One will also be HTC's only flagship phone for this year, so you don't have to worry about an HTC One+ coming out in 4 months. I'm also very pleased to see that every carrier has put out advertisements for the One. I've seen many of them all over TV and even some in movie theaters. This is where HTC messed up last year. Unless the individual phone sells well 3rd parties won't make accessories for it.
The only real difference between the GSM variants is that the T-Mobile version includes more radio bands. Thus, if you want to get the most versatile version like me, get the T-Mobile version. It's also unbranded so it has no logos (aside from the "beatsaudio" logo on the back which the One XL also has)!
Physical Construction: The HTC One feels very solid in your hand thanks to the "zero-gap" construction. This means that the entire back/sides of the phone are all one piece. The plastic accents are all bonded to the aluminum backing, so it is similar to the One XL in that regard. Because the aluminum and plastic is CNC'd out in one piece you can consider it as a single unit; you will never feel the plastic injections with your finger unless you have a defective unit. It's somewhat similar to the unibody design of the One XL minus the speaker grills which are separate pieces - you can feel the transition between those pieces and the screen. This is normal.
Audio and Video Recording: The recording quality of the One is indisputable. It is simply superb. You can record video at a night club and actually enjoy the music and video afterwards. The microphone is insanely good. The video camera is designed to excel under low light conditions. One consequence of this is that the One's camera is only 4MP (slightly higher than 1080p) instead if the XL's 8MP. This means that the camera is great for what most people will use it for, but unfortunately I can no longer carry around my phone as a dedicated camera replacement (for vacations and things where I want a little better picture quality).
Performance: The One is FAST! Using 3DMark's new application you can test the gaming performance among various platforms. The HTC One GPU is actually more powerful than a nVidia 7900GS videocard (think precursor to the 8800GT)! I actually had one of those in my gaming PC a couple of years ago. To me this is insane. To think that my phone is more powerful than the higher-end gaming PC I built in 2006 (in some tests).
Battery Life: The battery life in the One is pretty good. I'm getting around 4.5 hours of on-screen time but I'm still tuning the phone. I've only had it for 3 days. The battery isn't even settled yet. I'm sure in 2 weeks I'll be seeing 7+ hours on-screen time once I get everything sorted out.
IR Remote: One small thing that no one thinks of is the HTC One's IR blaster integrated into the One's power button. You can now control all of your home theater equipment using your phone. This is very handy for people like me who always find themselves on the couch with their phone in their hand but don't want to take the time to search for the remote. HTC even includes a little TV guide app that lets you select a specific show and it will automatically change the channel for you. I like this!
Fixes from other Phones: The HTC One's notification LED is fixed from the One XL. It is bright and you can actually see it from all angles. The HTC One XL has an almost useless notification LED and can only be viewed when looking from the phone straight on. I once had a coworker stare at my One XL for 2 minutes before he asked me whether something was blinking. He thought it was but he wasn't entirely sure. The One has solved this very annoying problem.
Storage Space: The One has much more storage space than the One XL. The 32GB version has about 25GB of usable space where as the 16GB One XL only has about 9GB. This is nice if you're thinking about replacing an MP3 player or like to have mobile videos stored locally.
This is all I can stand to type for now. I'm sure I forgot stuff but I'll have to wait until I'm at a computer to finish the comparison.
Sent from my HTC One, edited on my laptop
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Where and how much did you pay for your One? Birthday's coming up and might be able to sweet talk my parents....
-Sugardaddy
Austempest said:
I own both phones, and you can edit the apps in the dock, you just have to do exactly what you said above... go to the app tray and you can edit the apps in the dock from there (probably why the dock follows you to the app tray )
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Why does pressing home still take you to app dock. Anyway to disable this?
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Arrow44 said:
Where and how much did you pay for your One? Birthday's coming up and might be able to sweet talk my parents....
-Sugardaddy
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I was in the unique position that I needed to switch to T-Mobile so I got it from their online store. After taxes it came out to $144 up front, then I pay for the rest of the phone $20 a month for... Idk, 24 months I think. Regardless of how much you spend up front, the phone itself is $600. Early termination fees on the HOXL with AT&T is at least $205 if you bought the phone when it came out.
If you liked my review please click thanks.
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7 hours of screen time? Are you serious?
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Alcoholic said:
7 hours of screen time? Are you serious?
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I've only got 4.5 so far but I only had the phone 3 days. Others have gotten 6+. I've gotten 6.5 with my hoxl so I'm sure I can beat 7 with the one.
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Alcoholic said:
7 hours of screen time? Are you serious?
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If i'm busy at work (read: not procrastinating on my phone all day), it's lasted me two days with about 30% left. A lot better than my One XL.
I have both the One X and the One and in my opinion the One is much better than the One X. I still love both phones but the One is much more responsive, little to no hiccups at all unlike my One X, sense 5 is so much better than sense 4, and the speakers are amazing. Also battery life is much better on the one. I'm still on stock AT&T on my One and it's much snappier and more responsive than my One X ever was on cleanrom or viperxl.
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xvitality said:
I have both the One X and the One and in my opinion the One is much better than the One X. I still love both phones but the One is much more responsive, little to no hiccups at all unlike my One X, sense 5 is so much better than sense 4, and the speakers are amazing. Also battery life is much better on the one. I'm still on stock AT&T on my One and it's much snappier and more responsive than my One X ever was on cleanrom or viperxl.
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Looking to join you guys soon! I think I've just about pushed my one x as far as it'll go and I'm ready to step it up a bit
Ugh, it is soooo tempting to get the One, especially with T-Mobile getting rid of the 2-year crap... now just gotta find a new job.