Ever since I got my Sensation and I learned and experienced for myself, the dust under the screen issues... I really started hating HTC. I really feel (and still do) that the Sensation was one of the sexiest looking smartphones ever designed, so I was truly sad to realize that it was plagued by such a design flaw...
Now I ask, former Sensation owners and others.... are you afraid about the Sensation issues following suite and plaguing future phones, such as the One S?
I think this can only be answered in a few weeks, when a sufficient number of devices have hit owners' hands and we see if the issue occurs or not. Speculation until then is not going to accomplish much.
But we know that even without testing.... for example, the Galaxy Nexus' chance of having dust under the screen is almost impossible, because the glass and the digitizer is fused together....
I don't know if the same applies for the One S, or if the same technology is carried over from the Sensation.
I read about this in one of the reviews on tech blogs, and the fused screen assembly does apply for the One S - hence the thinness. So if this makes the issue improbable, I guess there's our answer.
Sweet... even more of a reason to pick this up... peace of mind.
just found this thread after receiving my one s today and noticing something under the bottom right touch button
best described as a smudge/as if someone has used a marker pen under the right button, clearly visible when the button light comes up
sending mine back and getting it replaced, hope it's just a one off as it's really not meant to be like it is
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I have my HTC One S for the last week and I can tell you I've yet to notice any dust under the digitizer. It seems like the amoled screens have to be fuzed to the digitizer because that's how my GS2 was and no dust under that one. I only keep a body glove feather case on it for extra grip. No screen protector or anything else and it stays in my pocket. No problems as of yet.
Dust under the screen is not an issue with amoled screens.
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I work in a paper factory and my poor phone has been covered in paper dust. I just wipe it off and it looks like new. No dust under my screen.
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Dust under the screen is not an issue with amoled screens.
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There nothing inherent in AMOLED screens that prevents dust - my HTC Desire was full of dust a the end.
Super AMOLED, however, which the One S has, with a fused screen & digitiser should be immune to dust under the screen.
I've never seen HTC use an Amoled screen on a Desire. It's always been from what I've seen LCD or super LCD. Unless I'm reading the wrong specs for the desire or desire HD. LCD consist of the panel and the digitizer, they are not fuzed together and HTC has a terrible rap for not setting them right, or not sealing them correctly.
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I've never seen HTC use an Amoled screen on a Desire. It's always been from what I've seen LCD or super LCD. Unless I'm reading the wrong specs for the desire or desire HD. LCD consist of the panel and the digitizer, they are not fuzed together and HTC has a terrible rap for not setting them right, or not sealing them correctly.
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The Desire originally came with an AMOLED screen, they switched to LCD when supplies of AMOLED were low.
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That would explain a lot. I just know with all the amoled devices I have owned in the past, not a single one of them got dust under the digitizer. They did however have a dead pixel or so after a while of use. I want to know how long the olephobic or however you spell it coating on the One S is going to last.
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Yesterday I checked out my friends brand new iphone 4 and he has dust under the screen, another friend has dust under the screen on his htc inspire 4g, another has dust under the screen of her iphone 3gs, another has dust under the screen of his droid x.
I never really looked closely for dust under the screen of ANY of the previous phones I have purchased, but I started becoming paranoid about it on the sensation because of the thread I saw here on XDA.
It seems like it's a fairly common thing and something we are just stressing over too much. I don't know.
I agree, I can find dust on a lot of phones .. unless seen during normal usage I don't care...
To be honest, it really isn't. It is a manufacturing issue that should be addressed by HTC. My iPod Touch 4TH gen has been in and out of my pant pockets for the past 7 months now and I still don't see a single speck of dust under the glass. My sensation wasn't so lucky. I put this phone in those same pockets and within 5 days I saw a few specks of dust.
This seriously cannot be normal.
Normal? This problem have plagued htc phones since winmo days. I'm not saying phones don't get dusty but htc consistently have this problem.
OP absolutely not a normal thing.
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I've owned htc touch pro 1 &2 g1 nexus one mytouch 3g slide and 4g + now a sensation not a single one has had dust under the screen. It's Definitely not normal
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Since when another phone having dust under the screen makes it acceptable!? Its like when Apple said that all phones experience the death grip issue and it is perfectly fine for the iPhone4 to lose signal!
Ive owned 10 + HTC's and its not normal at all.
You could after the warranty just open it up as its an easy fix for most phones. Or one could not put it in their pocket as its the most likely place it comes from. How cool would you be with strutting your stuff with a sensational belt clip ?
I have no dust underneath the screen of my phone and I have had it about a week.
After 18 months my HD2 still has no dust under the screen, however I noticed a few spec of dust under the screen on my Sensation as I took it out of the box.
There is also a very small (0.2 mm or so) gap at the bottom end of the phone between the case and the screen where I can see down the side of the screen.
Luckily a quick call to Vodafone Costomer Services and they're sending a new handset out by courier to replace this one
I don't think it's normal... It was normal 10 years ago when our standards were A LOT lower, but now it shouldn't happen.
I don't expect dust in my computer screen, or my camera screen, so why have it here
Not normal at all for me either. My N1 and Touch didn't have dust. This POS replacement I got today does.
OhMyGod!!
Now I have a lot of dust under the screen and I think it ot in through the space betwwen the display and the frame. It is now very visible how large this space is. They should have blockd this space with something. I really do not appreciate this from HTC.
It is design flow, SIMPLE!!!!
I just don't understand how they keep on having the same flaw.
It´s not normal at all! I remember last having this issue with old Nokia phones (6230i etc.) Since iPhone 3G times (see my signature) I never noticed this issue on a single phone! But my Sensation Now it´s on warranty repair and as it returns I sell it immediately.
Just got a new sensation back after having the dust problem and the replacement has a nice black dot under the LCD screen that can be seen under dark colours....
Really not happy at all....
So more time without a phone...
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On the desire s it is easy to get scratches on the screen and I have a keep one. I thought that the screen was gorrila glass??
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i haven't noticed any problems with mine. I even dropped it on concrete which managed to chip the aluminium on the back but left the screen intact. The only time i can see scratches are when it's under direct light and those are still hard to see. Also, i do not use a screen protector.
It's clearly not a rubbish screen or this forum would be flooded with more posts saying the same
Buy a screen protector they're named like that for a reason
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I obviously have got one now.
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It's clearly not a rubbish screen or this forum would be flooded with more posts saying the same
Buy a screen protector they're named like that for a reason
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I hat screen protectors, but the screen seems to be adequate; I dont get any scratch and carry the phone in my pocket without any kind of protection (just try to no mix up with coins and keys).
When compared side to side, the screen is also somewhat dimmer and the Nexus S (S-LCD version, not amoled). Colors are also less vivid, but that may be software related.
Viewing angles might and black levels not be the best, but the brightness and colours are great. I'd hardly say the screen is crap. Also, pretty sure it is Gorilla glass but I'm not going to try and find out.
Compare it to x10 mini and you an se that diference...
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On the desire s it is easy to get scratches on the screen and I have a keep one. I thought that the screen was gorrila glass??
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i am pretty sure that the screen is gorilla glass
who told you that gorilla glass cant be scratched?it is scratch resistant not scratch proof
a small grain of sand can scratch the screen easily
that is why it is always better to get a screen protector as soon as you get the device
DS has for sure gorilla glass. but you can see some small hair0like scratches when the screen is off. i use protective membranes
I tried on x10 mini foil from Brando. They are 110% quality. But after an hour goes to bin :-D
I havent any scratch on screen. Desire s detto.
I noticed a scratch today, only had it several days.
Hi guys, this thread is for all users that have dust underneath screen problem with Sensations.
We all know that our Sensation's screen is made by Sharp or AUO. In addition, it is obvious that dust problem is real.
I just bought the phone and I really want to find out is there a connection between panel type and dust problem (so we can avoid it if possible).
Since the threads above contain a lot of uncategorised data, I decided to open new thread with a poll to get more info.
My guess that problem occurs when glue breaks and sucks in (because of vacuum) the dust captured by battery cover...
To find out which panel you have:
Use terminal emulator (free from the market) and run the command dmesg (root is not needed). It will output a lot of data.
Look for this line and report it (the numbers might not be the same): [9178.895111] Panel Type = PANEL_ID_PYD_??????
(if you can't find it, you can long press on the output in terminal emulator copy all and then paste it into an email and send it to yourself. Then do a search with "panel" as keyword).
To find out is there some dust under your screen, look closer while on max brightness or under direct light (sun, preferraby).
Thanks.
Voted. Sorry, poll does not appear from xda app. Voted from browser.
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Then vote in poll...
Thanks for making this poll!
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I wish you would have include no dust aou, and no dust sharp options. I have a sharp and no dust, but I can't vote.
I can't edit poll, only mods can...
Although it is a good idea, i don't know if relevant data would be collected over time if 2 answers would be added (no dust - panel), eg. now you don't have any dust (and voted no), and if after 2 months you "develop" dust you could come back here and vote yes...see the issue?
Yes I see, but my phone is 5 months old, but I guess it could still happen. I just wish we knew the total number of sensation owners on xda vs. How many have dust issues.
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Well, although it is too early too tell, but judging by results so far, it may be that digitizer implementation is culprit here... :/
It would be nice to know who assembles it, panel manufacturers or HTC... ?
I'm not sure how to vote on this. Truth is I have had dust on both types of screens. 4th replacement due to dust is on its way. All 4 exchanges were due to dust entering the screen.
I have an AUO screen, and here is the picture of the dust under the screen.
i have a picture of my screen with dust available { ***.imagebam. com / image /f4941c173425172 }
All those having dusts, is it located at the same position on yours ?
I've just noticed some dust...AUO screen...
But I don't mind really since I see it only on strong outside light and only if I look really close...
I'll wait some time to see how it develops and get replacement then...
i have dust, and i have AOU screen
Going on 8 months, still no dust under my sharp panel.
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I had a sharp originally that I got on launch day it had dust. Got a brand new sealed in the box AUO panel, it also got dust. It isn't the panel, its the gap around the screen between the screen and bezel. Only way to ensure you never get dust is the silcon deal.
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I just got my Sensation 4G back from HTC yesterday. I sent it in because of a pretty bad case of dust under the screen, a broken exterior physicical Volume rocker, and the fact that every call I made or received people would say they could not hear me. I had the AOU screen.
Is it possible to remove the dust thats already there? I have 2 large dustspecs on each side on the middle of the screen. Can i crack up, clean screen and reseal it?
Bothers the **** out of me. Would do the silicone if i didnt buy my phone used
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AUO screen and a lot of dust under it!
Small amount of dust, Sharp screen. It oddly doesn't seem to be getting worse though, which is why I am in no rush to send it to HTC.
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AUO screen
I purchased my HTC Sen 4G from TMO less than a month ago and now have dust under my screen. I ran the terminal emulator and found my display was manufactured by AUO (FYI this information is near the top of the printout NOT the bottom or middle took me a while to find it, hope this helps someone else). This is very disappointing. I love my Sen and hate that there is a design flaw. I am concerned that it is only going to get worse with time. I will keep this phone for at least the next two years so I want it in tip top shape at the beginning so I can keep it that way. I still have my MT3G and it is in mint condition.
Freaking fantastic. I just got dust underneath my screen from both sides. Sharp screen.
I lost my sgs4g recently and was looking into getting an htc sensation. One thing I'm noticing is that the screens crack pretty easily (falling from 5ft). The sgs4g has gorilla glass and I would drop it plenty of times and although it would fall apart without the case(back cover and battery pops out), the screen would never crack. From what i have seen, the htc has gorilla glass yet it cracks so easily. Why is this? Is there a screen defect with the phone? From what I've seen so far, the phone seems great but the screen issue users seem to be having concerns me.
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I lost my sgs4g recently and was looking into getting an htc sensation. One thing I'm noticing is that the screens crack pretty easily (falling from 5ft). The sgs4g has gorilla glass and I would drop it plenty of times and although it would fall apart without the case(back cover and battery pops out), the screen would never crack. From what i have seen, the htc has gorilla glass yet it cracks so easily. Why is this? Is there a screen defect with the phone? From what I've seen so far, the phone seems great but the screen issue users seem to be having concerns me.
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i know of a digitizer issue but an easily crackable screen? never heard that one before
ok i read a bit further and the way most people spoke of the phone,it had me think they were one and the same. the digitizer will crack easily but the screen itself will be fine am i correct on that?
Is there anyone else that would like to chime in on this? I remember reading a thread where a person asked whether if the replacement digitizer would be gorilla glass which had me think that the digitizer and screen are one and the same. Also are there any other issues with the phone besides the digitizer that i should know about?
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Is there anyone else that would like to chime in on this? I remember reading a thread where a person asked whether if the replacement digitizer would be gorilla glass which had me think that the digitizer and screen are one and the same. Also are there any other issues with the phone besides the digitizer that i should know about?
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the display and the digitizer screen are separate pieces
the digitizer is a part of the gorilla glass screen and the display is beneath that
it doesnt crack, it shorts out and stops working properly for some. it can easily be prevented. if it happens, its an easy fix and if you want a new one you can replace it i think its about 20 bucks
oh ok great how can i prevent it? and is the easy way to fix it the software update as mentioned in a stickied thread? i basically dont want it to ever look like this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1142379
All you need to do is to be a little bit carefull whit your phone ..
I wonder why are you so worried lol do you drop your phones alot ?
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The Sensation is a quite durable phone... I've dropped it a couple of times with no issues...
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The Sensation does NOT have gorillaglass.
You can effortlessly push down hard enough on the digitizer to get it to touch the actual LCD panel underneath. It's an oleophobic plastic.
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The Sensation does NOT have gorillaglass.
You can effortlessly push down hard enough on the digitizer to get it to touch the actual LCD panel underneath. It's an oleophobic plastic.
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oh, is that right? you might want to check THE GORILLA GLASS WEBSITE
http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/products-with-gorilla/htc
Which brought me to another question. Is it possible that certain phones have lower quality gorilla glass screens than others?
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Which brought me to another question. Is it possible that certain phones have lower quality gorilla glass screens than others?
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i would say yes
just from the design of our screen (curved around the edges) it could possibly make it a tiny bit weaker
I just purchased this screen:
directfix.com/product/XX2544.html
After replacing my old one, I noticed the screen contrast is incredibly high, do you think this is a screen issue or improper installation?
having the same issue, driving me insane. any help?
Contrast too high
I recently shattered the screen on my HTC One X and had it replaced (the screen, not the whole handset). Now, like yours, the contrast is too high. Very poor in many, but oddly enough not all, apps. Text messages in particular look washed out. Adjusting the brightness doesn't help, just makes everything flatter
I had a go with the Screen Adjuster app, found via another thread. Looked promising but unfortunately it seems that its base line is where your screen is already at, so you can only decrease the contrast rather than increase it
I hope someone else can suggest a way of improving the contrast. It's not debilitating when using the phone, just irritating and not as good as my original screen.
Thanks
Same issue
I also replaced my screen and found the same issue, poor colors and high contrast as if there is a screen protection under the glass, any ideas?
Thanks!
Same here!
There should be some app/tweak to fix it?
Maybe Bravia engine?
Same Issue
Just got phone back from getting screen replaced and contrast is way too high! colours look terrible too, any suggestions to fix this yet?
Thanks
Problem solved...I think
I just got called back from the reseller and they say that there is a screen protection film between the display and the glass, as I suspected, I shall bring it back to the service and post here the result.
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I just got called back from the reseller and they say that there is a screen protection film between the display and the glass, as I suspected, I shall bring it back to the service and post here the result.
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From what I read the one x LCD screen is fused to the digitizer so there shouldn't be anything between them that's removable
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That is not true
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From what I read the one x LCD screen is fused to the digitizer so there shouldn't be anything between them that's removable
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No they are not fused. The LCD and the glass screen are just glued together.Youtube: watch?v=ceHw6mezG60. My guess is that the reseller has in storage only LCDs and gorila glass, and when somebody orders a whole screen they just stick them together and send it to you as a whole. And sometimes they just forget to remove LCD protection before sticking them together...at least this is what I think.