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I want to flash my girlfriends phone sooooooo bad. This is her first smartphone and she's quite annoyed with it. Currently running stock 2.1 with the bugs it comes with. From the battery life to the excessive lag along with other bugs. She almost regrets getting the phone and says she shouldve got the iphone because it's more stable, smoother and faster.
I kno flashing a stable and fast custom rom will squash all she is complaining about (it did for me with my Vibrant). My question which one of these roms will give her that fast, super smooth and stable experience she wants? I know they're both great roms but is one better than the other in terms of speed, no lag, stability all around? And if there are better roms please let me know. I'd really appreciate it. I plan on flashing her phone over the weekend, so I'm trying to get the best rom out now. Thanks in advance.
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Due to the diffrences in devices no one can tell you what will preform the best on any givin device. We could be running the exact same setup and one will fly and the other will not. Please search before opening a new thread. If you had done so you would have found that all these threads are closed on sight.
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Hello, I've been running xboarder56's rooted GB OTA (not the tweaked one) for about 2 months now with almost no problems. However, my phone slows down and starts getting laggy to the point of being unusable after a day or two, and the frequency seems to be increasing. I don't run many background services. Only rebooting fixes the problem temporarily. I'll try to load a webpage on either opera mobile or the stock browser while listening to music and the music starts skipping and popping while the page loads slower than usual, but after rebooting it's fast again with no skipping.
I've been searching the forums and Google and seen a few others with this problem but can't find a fix for it. I've tried clearing the Dalvik cache (with NVflashed CWM) but it didn't seem to help any. Is this a common problem with LG-based Gingerbread ROMs, and does anyone else here still have this problem? I started having this problem after running my last ROM, CM7 RC1 after a month, and when I switched to my current ROM I did do a full wipe/factory reset. I'm thinking about trying the new-ish CM7.1.0.1 stable ROM or Weapon G2x and am wondering if those have this problem as well. Any suggestions? Thanks for your time!
I have honestly had that problem with every most roms I've tried at some point. Maybe not instantly, but it will eventually start to slow down like you described in which i have to reboot.
Dang. Do you think a fix actually exists for this, or does everyone have this problem? It's strange since I can't find much discussion about this.
It sounds like you have an app gobbling up memory and not releasing it. All Android phones such be rebooted around once a week to keep things nice and tidy.
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It sounds like you have an app gobbling up memory and not releasing it. All Android phones such be rebooted around once a week to keep things nice and tidy.
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That's the issue I have with any 2.3.3 builds. But with 2.3.4 straight for 2 days now, hasn't experienced this issue yet. Unlike 2.3.3 that even within a day, it needs a reboot. I think there is a problem with LG's memory management.
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That's the issue I have with any 2.3.3 builds. But with 2.3.4 straight for 2 days now, hasn't experienced this issue yet. Unlike 2.3.3 that even within a day, it needs a reboot. I think there is a problem with LG's memory management.
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If I flash CM7.1.0.1 stable, will ClockWorkMod 3.0.2.7 that I flashed for the CM7 RC suffice? Or do I need to update that too before flashing? Sorry to drag the thread along.
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If I flash CM7.1.0.1 stable, will ClockWorkMod 3.0.2.7 that I flashed for the CM7 RC suffice? Or do I need to update that too before flashing? Sorry to drag the thread along.
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It should work fine flashing any zip, but the 5.0.2.0 version of CWM is far better. Flashing it with the One Click tool is a no brainer. Go ahead and update it. It will only take you a few minutes of your time.
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Do you have any evidence to support that? From what i've read android is made to run better when more memory is used.
http://www.androidcentral.com/ram-what-it-how-its-used-and-why-you-shouldnt-care
I never had to reboot my Nexus One, or even my T-mobile G1.
I've tried just about every rom for the g2x since i got it about a month ago and they are slow down. I'm not on the 2.3.4 rom and it started out great; now its almost unusable.
Anyone know whats wrong?? i'm about to call t-mobile and try to get another phone. I don't understand how they can release phones that just don't work. How can my single core 1ghz Nexus one be faster then this dual core 1ghz phone?
i'm just on stock and i have to reboot my phone every single day or else it's not useable. i have like zero apps on my phone almost so i know that can't be the problem, it's ridiculous
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i'm just on stock and i have to reboot my phone every single day or else it's not useable. i have like zero apps on my phone almost so i know that can't be the problem, it's ridiculous
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Good to know it isn't only me. I'm trying some more tests on my phone to see whats going on. I think i'm gonna call tmo soon and see what they say.
i'm sure they won't have a good reply for you but definitely share with us if they do! i understand having to reboot the phone like once every three days or so but every single day is totally unacceptable
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Did anything ever come from this? I'm completely stock, just got this phone the other day. This phone lags harder then my HD2 I just had, which I would have kept if the digitizer didn't go out.
Are you guys on stock? If so then i highly recommend going custom. LG can't code for crap, so lots of stuff that was wrong with this phone has been fixed in the recent custom roms/kernels.
I've had the same issue until i recently switched to Phoenix Blood rom. I recommend it if you want to forget when was the last time you rebooted and still use the phone buttery smooth. I am using Faux kernel and the ROM is rock solid for me. Recently ran and the V6 script(instructions are on the rom's page in development section) with it and now it's even better! Give it a try you would love it;-)
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Okay I'll check it out later, ya I'm out the box right now but not for long.
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Yeah get on a ROM without any LG coding or framework. If you guys prefer a more stock 2.3.3 feeling I would suggest Bionix Reloaded.
I make it a habit to reboot my phone every night before I sleep.
Well everyone, since my KANG thread in the development section has become a discussion thread since official CM nightlies started again, I've decided to redirect the discussion to here. I'm going to ask the thread in the development section to be closed, so it can stop taking up space there...instead we'll take up space here! Lol. But anyways I want this to basically be a continuation of the old thread...you can talk about your G2X questions, comments, problems, etc. here. This will be especially geared toward CM-related problems, but all G2X-related topics are welcome here I hope that everyone will continue to help each other out, and of course I'll monitor the thread to help as much as I can and research things if necessary. Enjoy!
This isn't necessarily CM-related but I guess it is in a way. I have been trying out EB's build 1 of ICS and honestly for the most part it works great already. The only big glaring issue (that actually made me revert back to Gingerbread today) was the incoming call problem I've seen reported elsewhere that when you try to answer a call, your ringtone restarts and it doesn't appear to actually pick up.
As for the G2X in general, I'm a firm believer that most common issues have been strictly software-based, which makes the resources we have here on XDA something like miracle workers if you think about it.
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This isn't necessarily CM-related but I guess it is in a way. I have been trying out EB's build 1 of ICS and honestly for the most part it works great already. The only big glaring issue (that actually made me revert back to Gingerbread today) was the incoming call problem I've seen reported elsewhere that when you try to answer a call, your ringtone restarts and it doesn't appear to actually pick up.
As for the G2X in general, I'm a firm believer that most common issues have been strictly software-based, which makes the resources we have here on XDA something like miracle workers if you think about it.
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Ya I couldn't stand that answer my phone wait for it to ring after I select answer was surely a big annoying thing that and wifi calling issues but other then that VERY usable can't wait for newer builds and development on 4.0.3..
I'm on his GB CM7 build and love it great great battery life only at 90% with descent use today.
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Quick question, if I am already running Arcee's ICS ROM would I need to do a full wipe and loose the way I have my phone configured or can I just wipe cache/dalvik cache and flash on top of Arcee's??
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Quick question, if I am already running Arcee's ICS ROM would I need to do a full wipe and loose the way I have my phone configured or can I just wipe cache/dalvik cache and flash on top of Arcee's??
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As it is always said, it is best to do a full wipe. You never know what issues may stick behind or get caused by not doing a full wipe, but give it a shot and report back and hopefully you don't have issues.
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Ok, so after reading the last comments in the CM thread, arcees rom is not been updated in awhile. What have people found the most stable, working ics ROM is atm? I'm using sk3, but will upgrade if there is better.
(btw, People get jealous of my now ICS powered phone )
Thanks!
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I believe Hellfire sandwich is the most updated and closest to everything working build. But there's lots coming down the pipeline thanks to our AMAZING DEVS!!!
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What's the best source for finding out the status of official Cyanogen 9 work on the G2X? I am not interested in kangs or spin-offs.
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Ok, so after reading the last comments in the CM thread, arcees rom is not been updated in awhile. What have people found the most stable, working ics ROM is atm? I'm using sk3, but will upgrade if there is better.
(btw, People get jealous of my now ICS powered phone )
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I haven't tried any of the other ICS roms, but been using HFS since the initial release. Obviously it's not perfect, but I've been running it everyday and don't have any major complaints
CM Nightly 226/Unnamed & Kernels
Recently transitioned back to CM from MIUI. Anyone try out the newest 226 (unnamed) Nightly yet? I'm still rocking the CM7.1.0.1 Stable, but for kernel flashing purposes, I'm trying to decide on a nightly.
I've used Faux123's UV/OC kernels, but seem to have lost my copy of his v0.4.3 (long term CM7.1.0.1 support). So, the newest v0.4.8 and T15 or ELF Trinity's won't work with mine. I know chip's vary, but mine seems to not like even the ELF Trinity kernel (which has worked for a few peeps running CM7.1.0.1).
Anyway, the breakdown of my ramblings are:
1. Anyone try CM Nightly 226/Unnamed?
2. Anyone happen to have a copy of Faux123's v0.4.3 kernel (CM Battery Version, not the DS driver) lying around? Or a compatible Trinity (preferred, actually)?
Eh, I know #2 is more wishful thinking. I'm mostly interested in anyone's experience with Nightly 226/Unnamed.
Ah, good to be back on XDA and CM, at that. I rolled on MIUI for way too long. Nice GUI & the customization was awesome, but man is that sucker a memory hog! Not to mention the random reboots and screen freezes... I should have never left my good ol' CM. Hindsight and all...
The only issue that I ran into with cm7/cm9 is the low microphone. I know this has been brought up in the past, but has been ignored as well. Some users claimed that it only happen to certain phone, but I'm almost certain that the issue lies within the rom. I do hope someone can shed some lights on this, cause i do miss using CM7.
long story short, i have a wiped g2x. power button is a ***** to turn on to the point that my finger tips are sore from trying to get it to boot into recovery since last night. i can only seem to get 2 different screens trying to do this:
a) the lg boot animation which promtly freezes as the phone has been wiped & i probably haven't held the volume down button
b) the s/w screen used for flashing a recovery, etc
the phone is not mine but trying to help someone out. is there a timing to releasing the buttons? seems that when it goes to the s/w screen, lg appears for only about a second and then straight to that one. any help would be appreciated.
edit: posted it here only because i'd been following the old thread which led me to this one. i was trying to update to the latest while this happened. i started a similar thread in q&a so if it doesn't belong i''ll remove it, thanks
I've been in a loop like this before. Make sure you have done a battery pull. I think the key is not to hold the volume down button so long, and then be patient for recovery to load, it takes longer than expected in this situation.
Good luck.
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Recently transitioned back to CM from MIUI. Anyone try out the newest 226 (unnamed) Nightly yet? I'm still rocking the CM7.1.0.1 Stable, but for kernel flashing purposes, I'm trying to decide on a nightly.
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Ah, you want to talk to me! I just went from CM7.1.0.1 Stable to #225. More stable, much faster than CM7 Stable, #225 really should be CM7.2 Stable.
#226 seems to have a bug with the lockscreen PIN. Go get #225 and don't look back.
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The only issue that I ran into with cm7/cm9 is the low microphone. I know this has been brought up in the past, but has been ignored as well. Some users claimed that it only happen to certain phone, but I'm almost certain that the issue lies within the rom. I do hope someone can shed some lights on this, cause i do miss using CM7.
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I've seen in other threads that the app getril fixes the low mic problem. This app matches the radio layer to the baseband.
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I've seen in other threads that the app getril fixes the low mic problem. This app matches the radio layer to the baseband.
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Lots have stated the same thing doesn't work for most some say it did. Worth a try if you haven't yet, no go for me
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Where is this getril app?
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The only issue that I ran into with cm7/cm9 is the low microphone. I know this has been brought up in the past, but has been ignored as well. Some users claimed that it only happen to certain phone, but I'm almost certain that the issue lies within the rom. I do hope someone can shed some lights on this, cause i do miss using CM7.
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I agree, this is by far the most annoying bug and the only "show stopper" I can think of on CM7. I do not think it's a 'phone-by-phone' thing, because if I flash to stock or Weapon G2X, my mic volume is fine. It's only on CM/CM-based ROMs, such as MIUI. I can't count the number of times where people have told me to "speak up" until I'm practically yelling into my phone. I think there's a bug with noise cancellation that causes it to be quieter than it should be.
Learn somethg new everyday just downloaded it... I had v21c when it expected v21e any idea why i didn't have the latest?
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Learn somethg new everyday just downloaded it... I had v21c when it expected v21e any idea why i didn't have the latest?
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GetRIL went the other way for my phone (Wind Canada P999), recommending v11h. Any notes re: the different builds?
Hello all,
Wondering if you guys can help me decide whether to flash an ICS ROM or not?
I have my Skyrocket tweaked and set up perfectly. It contains...
Version: 2.3.5 (refuse to upgrade to 2.3.6 due to many issues I see some are having)
Kernel: 2.6.35.11+ (excellent "stock-ish" ROM from romracer)
Launcher: Go Launcher EX
Phone is rooted and like to use CWM.
With that said, I'm wondering what is the best option to try? My main concern is obviously performance and battery life. I have spectacular battery life right now and don't want to lose it by flashing an ICS ROM.
Perhaps something that will work with the romracer kernel? For example, something that would still allow me to use CWM and MUST also support boot animations and BLN support. That is a must for me, as I use it to tweak my battery life quite a bit.
Anyways,
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
--mike
No ics for you, then.
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None have fun with gb
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If you decide that you can live without the BLN and overclocking then make a nandroid and give smooth ice a try, skyics is also good I hear.
I've tried smooth ice for like a month almost and it is really stable and the battery was good too.
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If you do not have the heart for glitches, ICS may not serve you well. There is no real benefit that I can see unless you are a hardcore phone tweaker. I am always debating whether to just go back to stock GB myself !!!
BUT if you really have the itch, the safest is mhx's full bloat stock. I used that for a long time, and it is very - relatively- stable.
here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1570498&highlight=full+bloat
My 4 cents....
Close eyes. Now say eni mini miny Moe! Just flash them all. U could use the experience and see everyone's roms instead of asking.... hrllo
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you gotta wait till kernel source is released before you'll have bln and oc but maybe try smooth ice if you want touchwiz but id try cm7 if you haven't or cm9 its all alpha buy lots have used it as a daily driver... I just hate touchwiz
CM9 Skyrocket
Thanks...
Thank you all for the feedback.
This is what I though! lol
I will stick with GB for now. I get amazing battery life, is extremely stable and love all the extra features after tweaking.
Was just curious....
Thanks again,
--mike
Battery Life & Stability
Thanks to the OP for this thread. I'm in a similar boat, but am just looking for the most stable custom ROM with the longest battery life. Coming from rooted Gingerbread, I've setup my ICS exactly the same (debloated and lean), and my time between charges was cut by 1/3 at least.
From my limited research, the CM9 Beta 1 ROM sounds to have excellent battery life and great stability. However, I'm open to suggestions! One question I have though, is I keep hearing folks talk about "nightlies". That that mean it requires nightly updating? Thanks in advance.
I've been using PTSD's AOKP ICS ROM and I love it. I've mixed that with InstigatorX's Kernel and my battery life is amazing. I'm an Android noob, but I'm digging this setup.
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Thanks to the OP for this thread. I'm in a similar boat, but am just looking for the most stable custom ROM with the longest battery life. Coming from rooted Gingerbread, I've setup my ICS exactly the same (debloated and lean), and my time between charges was cut by 1/3 at least.
From my limited research, the CM9 Beta 1 ROM sounds to have excellent battery life and great stability. However, I'm open to suggestions! One question I have though, is I keep hearing folks talk about "nightlies". That that mean it requires nightly updating? Thanks in advance.
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the word nightly means that it's scheduled to auto build a new version with any fixes made during the day... It wont auto update your Rom though you have to manually install it
It is a very easy process though. you download the new nightly and reboot to recovery: wipe system and wipe cache then install, wipe dalvik and fix permissions and reboot if you installed any mods like inverted apps or gps fix or dpi changes they need to also be addresses after the first boot
Because i don't like setting it up all the time i just install the new nightly weekly
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I actually *just* restored to Gingerbread today, after months of using Cyanogenmod 9's official and nightly releases, as well as the InstigatorX kernels.
My battery life was okay, but for all the extra bells and whistles, they seem to get the basics wrong, unfortunately :/ I still couldn't send texts larger than 160 characters without splitting them up, and they'd always arrive out of order, or not at all. Other apps wouldn't behave properly either, and my mobile network connection seemed to change/drop just from looking at it.
So CM9 looked promising, but still has a ways to go, and it's rated as one of the better ROMs for this phone. I didn't even want to try CM10, because their bug list is still bigger than CM9.
Can I ask where you got your romracer kernel? I'll have to give that a try. Also I'm looking to replace the current radio with something better.
I had to rebuild from scratch because somehow my gingerbread backup was corrupted. I used Bonestocketeer's ROM ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1357274 ) and the only issue I've had with it is I can't change the LTE/HSPA/GSM setting in Mobile Networks to just HSPA/GSM. I was able to with my original ROM, and that seemed to help battery life.
Thanks again for your post!
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At least tell him why. You report hounds are all the same.
To OP, james has reported you because the title and nature of this thread suggests asking which rom is the best, which is prohibited in this forum because "which x is best" threads can usually promote flaming and whatnot. It's like asking who likes the Yankees, and then fans of other teams riot about how their team is the best.
This comes as a surprise as I see you've been a member for a while. Assuming that other forums have similar rules to the SR forum.
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At least tell him why. You report hounds are all the same.
To OP, james has reported you because the title and nature of this thread suggests asking which rom is the best, which is prohibited in this forum because "which x is best" threads can usually promote flaming and whatnot. It's like asking who likes the Yankees, and then fans of other teams riot about how their team is the best.
This comes as a surprise as I see you've been a member for a while. Assuming that other forums have similar rules to the SR forum.
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He's actually doing it to probably get me in trouble bro I doubt he reported it he's trying to make a point and failing he's done this in half the recent threads here
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With that said, I'm wondering what is the best option to try? My main concern is obviously performance and battery life. I have spectacular battery life right now and don't want to lose it by flashing an ICS ROM.
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My recommendation would be NexusMod, then. It features the proprietary performance tweaks available in the TouchWiz ROMs, so it's faster than Cyanogenmod, but it has a lot of theming that makes it look and feel closer to AOSP. There are still some ugly elements of TouchWiz that exist, but it's a big improvement over a lot of the other TouchWiz-based ROMs.
For sure, CM9 has more features and tweaking options, and a more consistent AOSP look to it, but it's slower than NexusMod and still has some very minor bugs. It does, perhaps, offer you a few more options in how to save battery, though.
I have to say, though ICS is a massive improvement over GB and we have stable, mature ICS ROMs available. I would strongly advise upgrading, but if you're concerned about bugs, stick with a light TW-based rom like NexusMod.
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He's actually doing it to probably get me in trouble bro I doubt he reported it he's trying to make a point and failing he's done this in half the recent threads here
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Yeah I see he did the same in a post about a Motorola screen. As much as I don't like your attitude I will admit you report where it's appropriate
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First off Questions belongs in Q&A. Second no one can really say use "x". Search, read and try. Locked
Hello, im looking for good rom, smooth, fast, stabile like rock. No crashes, less bugs, and hope no random shutdowns or reboots. I cant find one, tell what you think.
Sounds like you've tried a lot of them. I run stock 4.4.4 and it's been the best for me.
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It's hard to answer if we don't know what you've already tried and why each didn't measure up.
Stock is what you're after then.
Plus before the wannabe forum police all start to chime in and shout, best threads aren't allowed. Expect a mod to shut this down very soon.
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Stock is what you're after then.
Plus before the wannabe forum police all start to chime in and shout, best threads aren't allowed. Expect a mod to shut this down very soon.
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Best thread are being allowed for the time being
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Best thread are being allowed for the time being
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Oh dear... I dread to think of the threads.
@ OP
Stock still is the best option though :good: - Or try a stable ROM like Slim, Paranoidandroid, Vanir, Rastakat.
I had some problems with stock, random shutdowns, cant find reason for that, but shutdowns mosly happen when phone is fully charged
Yep. The "no best threads" sticky was just recently removed.
Sorry about this best, didnt know that, but thats ok, i didnt know how to tell that what rom do i want, so i used best
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I had some problems with stock, random shutdowns, cant find reason for that, but shutdowns mosly happen when phone is fully charged
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Bizarre behaviour, tried a fresh flash on a factory image?
like I said, give Slim, Omni, Paranoidandroid, rastakat or Vanir or something similar a whirl. Rastakat is close to stock, as is PA and Omni, Slim and Vanir are a bit more customisable. All are good ROMS though. So have a tinker and see which you like. Of course there are more stable one's also, like Purity, OptiPurity and a few others.
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I had some problems with stock, random shutdowns, cant find reason for that, but shutdowns mosly happen when phone is fully charged
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It's probably app related. I've never had a random shut down on stock
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What about liquid smooth?
gefilus said:
Hello, im looking for good rom, smooth, fast, stabile like rock. No crashes, less bugs, and hope no random shutdowns or reboots. I cant find one, tell what you think.
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One persons best ROM will be another persons worst ROM. So there is no such thing as a "best ROM". Stick with stock and, for customization, root and use Xposed. It's pretty much your safest bet.
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What about liquid smooth?
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Liquid is a good ROM, but it can have issues due to the constant development on it. I personally have never had issues with it, but in their thread a lot of people do have issues. Have a scan thru the last 5-10 pages of their thread and decide which build is suitable for you if you like it.
PA has changed dramatically now FYI, it's completely different to what it once was. However if you don't like PA then that obviously isn't the choice for you currently. Give Slim a whirl, Fast, smooth, stable and their thread is the best one on XDA also. And support like no other.
Will test it
Yes best threads are allowed....but the bottom line will always be, see what's best for you, cause everyone has their own needs and tastes.
Start flashing. ?
For me the best ROM is stock without all Google apps and with Motorola's gallery.
Best ROM is kind of subjective....
Right about now, most have the same features active display and such. Beanstalk, PAC man, cataclysm, purity, Mahdi, and a few I'm missing are really great. Well to me that is...
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stock rom