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My view on things...

I think that instead of recalling g2x phones they should offer the new tegra 3 phones soon to be conning out as compensation or a replacement phone.
I think that would be great and of course they would be loading money but they would have another chance to redeem themselves if they do happen to receive the tegra 3 platform.
By then I think that they should have a grasp on coding and drivers on tegra devices although these will be quad core cpus
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They cant even do Tegra2 right. you expect them to do Tegra3 right?
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In my last paragraph I started that by the time tegra 3 platform comes out they should have a handle on the tegra platform...and if they don't well...I wouldn't know what to say as far as their expertise and professionalism.
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do you have any idea how much money LG would lose by doing this? Did toyota give new cars to everyone who had problems with their cars?
you think too much like a consumer... this idea would never even cross LG's mind

This is true but keys say a trade in.
Your phone + money for new
Tegra 3 phone
Of a price a little less than upgrade price would ensure done kind of profit along with reputation
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Pass, I don't want another LG after this one. Mine actually works fine I have no issues with *knocks on wood*, but it's their handling of this that has turned me off, no more LG products for me.

mr mystery said:
Pass, I don't want another LG after this one. Mine actually works fine I have no issues with *knocks on wood*, but it's their handling of this that has turned me off, no more LG products for me.
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This right here. I'm sticking with my G2x for a while(because I can't seem to stick with a phone and I wanna prove to myself I can ;_ but when the time comes, I'm probably gonna head on back to HTC. I've liked what I had from them so far.

i've been into smart phones for years. correct me if i'm wrong, but i can't recall one single time in smartphone history that consumers were given a completely different,newer phone to make up for the shortcomings of a previous phone. that would be insane. nice, but insane marketing.if it HAS ever happened, i'm sure it was over something more serious than the g2x's issues,such as.....??? i simply can't imagine it happening.

The hell with that i want double my sufferings, i want quad core phone with fm transmitter!!
Faux123 for dev!!!

And I want a million dollars along with a Saleen 7 + a job which gives me 5 months paid holidays while I'm also getting a T3 phone as a compensation.
P.S. I love my phone. So please do excuse my sarcasm.
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The whole purpose for G2X is gaming

Bash the G2x all you want bUT the first and foremost purpose for this superphone is it was meant to be that portable all in one gaming gadget.
Playstation tried to do it, and many companies throughout the years have been trying to bring such a device to cater to gamers.
And as of right now G2x is second to none as far as pushing polygons around with it's Nvidia Tegra 2 chipset.
This is the whole purpose for G2x, Nvidia is huge in the PC gaming market, and when they release their Quad Core Tegra chipset I'll be there.
G2x most awesome gaming cellphone. PERIOD...

jacob808 said:
Bash the G2x all you want bUT the first and foremost purpose for this superphone is it was meant to be that portable all in one gaming gadget.
Playstation tried to do it, and many companies throughout the years have been trying to bring such a device to cater to gamers.
And as of right now G2x is second to none as far as pushing polygons around with it's Nvidia Tegra 2 chipset.
This is the whole purpose for G2x, Nvidia is huge in the PC gaming market, and when they release their Quad Core Tegra chipset I'll be there.
G2x most awesome gaming cellphone. PERIOD...
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That's exactly what I use my G2X for and it does it well. However, if someone besides HTC makes a phone with the Adreno 220 with the proper drivers, it will be able to push more polygons than the Tegra 2. Notice how I said someone besides HTC? They cant optimize or code drivers for ****. I would actually like to see Samsung take a crack at it because there really isn't anything right now with the graphics power the Adreno 220 has. In the end however, its all in how its packaged. I cant wait to see what Tegra 3 brings to the game.
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Sure, it's great at pushing polys, but without a d-pad and other real buttons, it automatically sucks as a gaming device. Buy a PSP/3DS/DS if you're looking to do any real mobile gaming, not a G2x.
Sony was definitely on the right track though. What they should do is take the specs of the Vita, put them in a slimmer Xperia Play form factor, add Android, a PlayStation Market app, and a slot to take Vita game cards and you'd have a true all in one mobile device. Kinda like n-gage...
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PikkonX said:
Sure, it's great at pushing polys, but without a d-pad and other real buttons, it automatically sucks as a gaming device. Buy a PSP/3DS/DS if you're looking to do any real mobile gaming, not a G2x.
Sony was definitely on the right track though. What they should do is take the specs of the Vita, put them in a slimmer Xperia Play form factor, add Android, a PlayStation Market app, and a slot to take Vita game cards and you'd have a true all in one mobile device. Kinda like n-gage...
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The n-gage was truly before it's time :/

JaiaV said:
The n-gage was truly before it's time :/
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Awww, I miss the n-gage...
But the HDMI support coupled with the Tegra 2 in this device is wicked. Haven't played one game on it yet, since I'm not usually into app games. But I may have to test it out to see how the gaming is from phone > TV.

I download a lot of free trials (search for ... lite games ... for tons). I always read the comments before downloading. You see lots of various old devices as not having the horsepower to run them, to be expected. Some of the newer games really require at least 800 + mhz.
You also see a lot of problems with Sensations and Samsung GS II devices. Both of these are being fixed quickly from developers, very quickly by some of the better paid apps. I don't see a lot of issues for G2x's.
Reading the comments and looking at the updates being pushed should confirm this to anyone.
I think its mostly because Nvidia obeyed all the specifications of the standard design better, and did more testing to makes sure games work better. Afterall games are what feed the employees of Nvidia. Tegra simple a better CPU for the job.

tombaker1 said:
I download a lot of free trials (search for ... lite games ... for tons). I always read the comments before downloading. You see lots of various old devices as not having the horsepower to run them, to be expected. Some of the newer games really require at least 800 + mhz.
You also see a lot of problems with Sensations and Samsung GS II devices. Both of these are being fixed quickly from developers, very quickly by some of the better paid apps. I don't see a lot of issues for G2x's.
Reading the comments and looking at the updates being pushed should confirm this to anyone.
I think its mostly because Nvidia obeyed all the specifications of the standard design better, and did more testing to makes sure games work better. Afterall games are what feed the employees of Nvidia. Tegra simple a better CPU for the job.
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What problems does the GSII and the Sensation have with games?
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jrwingate6 said:
What problems does the GSII and the Sensation have with games?
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Read what I wrote, I explain exactly.
Read What's new in AirAttack HD Part 1 ...From developer
Read comments on Asphalt 5 HD
Its an observation Jr. its not the end all be all, and because of the shear volume of the SGII, the bugs will be resolved on active apps, on old apps, not so much

PikkonX said:
Sure, it's great at pushing polys, but without a d-pad and other real buttons, it automatically sucks as a gaming device. Buy a PSP/3DS/DS if you're looking to do any real mobile gaming, not a G2x.
Sony was definitely on the right track though. What they should do is take the specs of the Vita, put them in a slimmer Xperia Play form factor, add Android, a PlayStation Market app, and a slot to take Vita game cards and you'd have a true all in one mobile device. Kinda like n-gage...
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I agree with every single point in this post. I don't like phone gaming outside of emulators, and even then, I use a BT controller (PS3 or Wii controller) to play games, because it lacks buttons. My PSP and 3DS get much more game time then my phone.
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tombaker1 said:
Read what I wrote, I explain exactly.
Read What's new in AirAttack HD Part 1 ...From developer
Read comments on Asphalt 5 HD
Its an observation Jr. its not the end all be all, and because of the shear volume of the SGII, the bugs will be resolved on active apps, on old apps, not so much
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It was just a question to your observation. I only felt like reading through one of the games you mentioned which was Asphalt 5. I see multiple devices with problems including Tegra powered devices. Its not a game play issue with the Sensation. Its a downloading issue. Everyone says it wont download the additional data to play the game. I don't think the problem has anything to do with the CPU/GPU. That's just my observation.
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I only felt like reading through one of the games you mentioned which was Asphalt 5....
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Why you continue to troll on a phone that you have already sold is beyond me. Why you would not read what the developer said first is ridiculous if your weren't just trolling.
It reads:
What's in this version:
Fixed issues with HTC Sensation, HTC Evo 3D, Samsung Galaxy S II, MyTouch 4G Slide
If you have problem starting the game after update, try to restart your device​
The Nvidia chips, as usual, run games easier, and faster. Not shocking, just another example.
As I said I download a lot of free samples, the Sensation, Evo 3D and GS II, Dual cores that are not Tegra comments are frequent. There are plenty of other patchs being release for the same chips.

Nexus prime?

do you guys think it would be a good idea to get a nexus prime?

Yes
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yup, if it comes in AWS

So finally a phone you guys think is worth switching to?

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So finally a phone you guys think is worth switching to?
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Only if T-Mobile isn't cut out of the loop again and that curve on the screen isn't so insanely exaggerated as the teaser makes it appear to be.

JaiaV said:
Only if T-Mobile isn't cut out of the loop again
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Nexus 1 and the Nexus S launched with T-Mobile and AWS before anyone else, not sure how they got "cut out of the loop"

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Nexus 1 and the Nexus S launched with T-Mobile and AWS before anyone else, not sure how they got "cut out of the loop"
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The Nexus S 4G (which wasn't really different), so I did do a bit of keyboard-in-mouth, for a minute there I did forget the Nexus S came out on T-Mobile first. Tired.

I came from the Nexus One, bought the G2x off-contract, specically to be able to pick up the Nexus Prime at a discount.
I just hope the nexus prime won't disappoint. Rumors on specs are mixed. The qualcomm chips in the Tmo SG2 and Amaze are meh. Also 5mp camera is meh.... other specs say it'll have the Exynos chipset and 8mp cam. Some say Verizon will get it first others say T-Mobile. Verizon has the Droid Prime with similar specs already and aren't ones to keep it clean with Android.
Either way, if the specs are worthwhile over the G2x, I'll grab it.
Best solution for me personally would be Verizon with sweet specs as my old work blackberry needs upgraded and I set up our new exchange to work properly so my company is allowing Android sets now... meaning I can kill my $70 personal T-Mobile line, sell my G2x and profit.
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I honestly don't think it's that much of an upgrade of our G2x's. Our phone is still up to par with alot of the phones out there now.. Once we get ICS on this thing, we should be fine.

Will it work on at&t?
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Yeah. I think it'll get more development support and the devs won't have to worry about nvidia giving up the source codes.
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The Prime looks nice but I plan on holding onto my G2x until the phone hits at least the one year mark if not more to see what's coming next spring and summer. Quad core phones anyone?
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I know everyone wants the latest and greatest, but sometimes it's a bit overkill. Unless you have a good job with 500+ bucks to throw I don't see why we should be running to get the Prime when you already have a Tegra 2 Dual core device. Nothing can even tough this device yet.
It'd be hard for me to dump my dual core device for another dual core. At this point might as well wait for whatever the next gen quads come out next year. And once that happens, I don't even know what we'd do with a quad core lol.

Well... We'd buy more batteries, of course.
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Well... We'd buy more batteries, of course.
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Lol, I seriously think they should just take a break on the progression of processors, screens, GPU's, etc. and use that time and man power in advancing the technology of battery's... That's literally the only Achilles heel that even the best smartphone's have these days.
At this point, I'd rather have the creation of a 5,000 mAH battery with out changing it's size than a quad core processor.

mackster248 said:
Lol, I seriously think they should just take a break on the progression of processors, screens, GPU's, etc. and use that time and man power in advancing the technology of battery's... That's literally the only Achilles heel that even the best smartphone's have these days.
At this point, I'd rather have the creation of a 5,000 mAH battery with out changing it's size than a quad core processor.
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Agreed ten fold. I'm waiting til the Nexus Double Prime before I plan to upgrade. This phone is doing just fine, and has a very nice set of developers working on it for us.
If they did make quad core phones, I bet the battery life would be at least 20% worse than now. When I'm not even getting super amazing battery life to begin with, it might be a problem.

FatalityBoyZahy said:
I honestly don't think it's that much of an upgrade of our G2x's. Our phone is still up to par with alot of the phones out there now.. Once we get ICS on this thing, we should be fine.
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Yeah, main difference between the two will be updates. Something the G2X will probably never officially see. After the half ass 2.3 update we got I'm pretty much over it.
....

I really don't see the point of quad core phones; unless Google does something unbelievable with Jelly Bean that needs an insane amount of processing, nothing a smartphone does needs that much. Hell, dual core isn't even that necessary unless you run a lot of 3D stuff.
There is such a thing as overkill people. I'd like to see phone manufactorers declare the smartphone as it exists now finished and start working on some new innovations that would make better hardware necessary. 3D screen ala Nintendo 3DS with FFC capable of eye-tracking to orient the 3D so you see it at any angle?

While I agree that the G2x can hold its own, I do miss owning a nexus device. My friend still has his Nexus One and running official software we can only get via custom roms.
My reasoning to grabbing the Nexus Prime IF if launches on Verizon is so my work can pay for it. Unfortunately I heard Verizon is launching the Galaxy Prime.... which is similar but not the nexus prime backed by Google.
Well just have to wait until Tuesday. All the rumors running around its hard to make any reasonable decision.
If Verizon gets gimped on Google support then I'll keep my G2x for a long while.
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Agreed. My work is on sprint and I am waiting to see if it launches on sprint. If it does, I'll pick it up. If not, either sii or stay on g2x. It looks to me that the prime is going to launch on everyone but sprint.
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HTC Edge

Looks awesome hopefully on
t-mobile
http://androidandme.com/2011/11/devices/htc-edge-to-be-worlds-first-quad-core-tegra-3-smartphone/
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OMG yes. That has everything I want in a phone... so it's probably going to Verizon *sigh*

I think it looks good. No verizon for me though.

No its hspa 21 so hopefully tmobile verizon got all the good phones this year :/
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Unless they have a super powerful battery I don't think this phone will last more than a few hours on regular use.

deeken said:
Unless they have a super powerful battery I don't think this phone will last more than a few hours on regular use.
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will probably last longer than the iphone 4s anyway..
doesn't the kal-el chip have excellent battery life in stand by mode?

I think quad-cores are too much. No apps will use four cores, only games, and they too will be few. No thanks, i'll get my Motorola Razr .

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I think quad-cores are too much. No apps will use four cores, only games, and they too will be few. No thanks, i'll get my Motorola Razr .
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By having more powerful phones makes the apps/games better and the devs won't have to worry about hardware limitations ..
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4.7" screen? Come on! Am I the only person with small hands???
Why don't they just get it over with and stop making smartphones and sell us tablets on contract.
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Div033 said:
4.7" screen? Come on! Am I the only person with small hands???
Why don't they just get it over with and stop making smartphones and sell us tablets on contract.
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They make little phones just for you buddy! Go get an HTC Wildfire
And they do sell tablets on contract...
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francois36boris said:
I think quad-cores are too much. No apps will use four cores, only games, and they too will be few. No thanks, i'll get my Motorola Razr .
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Look up the tegra 3 ball game and how slow it is on 2 cores. Plus this means better quality games like ps3. If you dont want it dont buy it just saying lol
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TJBunch1228 said:
They make little phones just for you buddy! Go get an HTC Wildfire
And they do sell tablets on contract...
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Heh, not on Verizon they don't.
And yeah I know they do sell tablets on contract, I guess I meant to say ONLY tablets, since that's the way things seem to be trending towards.
Is the Wildfire even available in the US?
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Battery life will absolutely blow, but that's the trade off for more power *Tim Allen Grunt*
Can't wait to see more on this phone..!

jesus christ thats a big boy there.... love big phones

Thanks to the Tegra3, batterylife WONT blow as much as you think
nice looking phone indeed, with the metal in the back ...
since im used to my big HTC Evo3D screen, i whouldnt mind to have a lil bigger one... with HD quality im sure it whould be pretty amazing... .
btw, heres a pic/link how the Tegra3 quadcore will work
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http://pocketnow.com/smartphone-news/nvidia-kal-el-chips-have-fifth-low-power-companion-core
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/09/20/nvidia-releases-two-white-papers-about-project-kal-el-secret-5th-core-revealed/
tldr: Tegra3 quadcores wont have 4 cores-> they will have 5
the 5th is a "powersave" core who will run for the small things (standby etc)
Other benefits would be faster pageload times in browsers, quick multi-tasking, better performance while using processor-heavy apps, and most importantly, overall lower power consumption without a drop in performance.
The second paper details an-almost secret “5th core” called the companion core, that allows your device to use much less power while in standby or using background tasks such as music, Facebook updates, and email syncing. With this companion core, the main quad-core is essentially able to shut down completely, allowing your device to last much longer.
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tegra announced that this Quadcore, will use almost like the same energy like the current DualCores from OMAP4 oder Qualcomm MSM8660)
well untill now-> theres nothing who needs those HorsePOWER.
but look 1-2 years back in terms of mobile gaming...
if you compair to what we have now
(like Shadowgun for Android
or InfinityBlade 2 for Iphone4s
makes me think: WTF will come in the next 2 yrs?
and thats why i think that the HTC Edge will be awesome :3
more about Tegra, and their "Incredible future projects" like TegraWayne
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nvidia_Tegra#Tegra_.28Codename:_Kal-El.29_Serie
ofc there will come more from omap or qualcomm aswell... .
Any problem, Apple?
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*sigh*
I'm on the verge of buying SGS2 and now I'm on a dilemma! Should I wait for this or buy a dual core phone now
And one thing, I think "future-proof" phones doesn't exist anymore.

Poor HTC....Their phones need Quadcores just to run stock Sense smoothly, we'll be in for it when Sense 4 is released, it will need more than 1GB RAM. And no I'm not joking, HTC thinks adding cores fixes the lag in Sense, but they need to learn optimization, and bloated doesn't cut it.

DahIzzo said:
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That actually makes sense. Glad to see NVIDIA do some research with graphics vs battery life especially considering that their optimus GPU works wonders. I was thinking with four cores active at once, battery life will be complete crap. Still wouldn't do console level gaming on a smartphone because onscreen controls suck so much. A tablet, maybe.
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but look 1-2 years back in terms of mobile gaming...
if you compair to what we have now
(like Shadowgun for Android
or InfinityBlade 2 for Iphone4s
makes me think: WTF will come in the next 2 yrs?
and thats why i think that the HTC Edge will be awesome :3
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PC level graphics five years ago.

Mmmhhh I may want to try it

With some Sense crap on top? No thanks.

Farewell!

Traded my phone for a mint iPhone 4S. Pretty happy about it. At least if i want to come back, i can always use my note!
Been a good run but Its time to go. Thanks to Jim, JRW and lfaber for all your hard work!! Others too I'm sure!
Ciao!!
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Atrix 2 for a mint iphone 4s? I'm guessing it wasn't a straight trade, right?

holeshot77 said:
Traded my phone for a mint iPhone 4S. Pretty happy about it. At least if i want to come back, i can always use my note!
Been a good run but Its time to go. Thanks to Jim, JRW and lfaber for all your hard work!! Others too I'm sure!
Ciao!!
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Well good luck, my wife has one and loves it.
Me on the otherhand not so much. Even with the problems, the A2 seems better.
Hope you like it.
I expect to see you back when you feel the need to flash something!
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I would go back to a dumb phone before I'd use an apple product. maybe even chop off a hand.

Everybody is entitled to their own opinion. Good luck finishing with a device you really enjoy!
Sad to see an Android user go

cogeary said:
Everybody is entitled to their own opinion. Good luck finishing with a device you really enjoy!
Sad to see an Android user go
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no it's a fact I would chop off my hand first seriously you're right everyone is entitled to their own choice. I just have a deep seated distaste for apple.

mtnlion said:
I just have a deep seated distaste for apple.
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LOL Same Here

Me too but if I could trade my phone for a 4s I would do it in a heartbeat. Then sell it and buy a gs ii.
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I personally love the Atrix 2. I might be lucky but I've had absolutely no problems with it.
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LOL Same Here
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As do I. I compare apple to a tricycle and android to a Ducati. Google it.
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Me too but if I could trade my phone for a 4s I would do it in a heartbeat. Then sell it and buy a gs ii.
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Exactly lol I love the galaxy s2 nom nom s apples 800 megabytes ram
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cryhavok13 said:
As do I. I compare apple to a tricycle and android to a Ducati. Google it.
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Haha ^ nice example
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To each their own... I cant stand IOS or Webtop. Compare any of the three and the functionality of android makes it a clear winner on any decent device! Imo, Not trying to start a war or anything.

My wife loves her 4s but I'm loving the a2 especially when rooted.
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My wife loves her 4s but I'm loving the a2 especially when rooted.
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hehe another PC vs MAC thing If you are boring and carefree then go with iphone but if you want a personalized and unique device then stick with the A2 but the OP is gone and i don't think he will come back to take a look at his post hehehe. Besides our signal bars are not jacked up lmao.

This has nothing to do with PC versus Mac, this has to do with locked vs unlocked hardware. i will be boycotting Motorola in the future, this is my first Moto smartphone and the experience has been less than desirable. It's another case of great hardware ruined by being severely limited/crippled by the manufacturer. Samsung, LG, or HTC for me in the future.

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This has nothing to do with PC versus Mac, this has to do with locked vs unlocked hardware. i will be boycotting Motorola in the future, this is my first Moto smartphone and the experience has been less than desirable. It's another case of great hardware ruined by being severely limited/crippled by the manufacturer. Samsung, LG, or HTC for me in the future.
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yeah our HTC liberty's were so much easier to hack.

someone traded you a i4s for an a2?
Sell the i4s and buy a GSM Galaxy Nexus. Destroys both phones

Good luck in IOS jail
I sincerely wish you luck with an idevice. I was talked into trying the IP4, and knowing that I could easily sell it for enough dough to pickup some android goodness, I gave it a good, honest try. I fought for almost 6mos trying to make it fit. There were things that were nice, like the *screen*, battery life, speed, and camera.
I even jailbroke that puppy and actually had it part-way there. Unfortunately, the IOS ecosystem is so restrictive (though admittedly slowly getting better) that I wound up bashing my head against stupid, arbitrary limitations. At first, the little annoyances seem minor and tolerable. afterall, this is a pretty solid device, right? so what if you can't quite do x, y, or z. There are 'workarounds' and such, but then you realize that hitting the same little issues every single day starts to grate on you, and many of the 'workarounds' are half-ass (backgrounding apps just kills battery life, for eg.).
While IOS is well optimized for the hardware, and they really get all the speed they can out of it, the GUI also employs tricks to make it *feel* fast (smooth is a better word). Those smooth transitions are so smooth because they are slow, and the GUI will pre-load elements even before they are ready for touch input. Once I got to know IOS, I found I was tapping on freshly loaded GUI 'buttons' that ignored my input for a second or so. lame. Also, the 'polished' feel of IOS apps is almost purely illusory, as they crash frequently when 'unfrozen' (they don't get to run in the background). IOS just makes the crash look really pretty as the app disappears for just a moment and then restarts itself never telling you what actually happened. Android is just being honest when it reports an app crashed.
If yer on a tiered data plan, get ready for the hate. despite all the bull**** claims, IOS uses *far* more data than android. I could rarely stay under 200MB/mo on my IP4 despite having no widgets and only doing email and a bit of web browsing. I rarely go over 80MB in a month now that I'm on the atrix2.
A friend of mine who switched from the IP3G to the SGSII is thankful he didn't get the IP4s. He reports that his wife's IP4s seems sluggish and apps crash alot.
The iDevices can be alluring, and it might be worth trying, but just make sure you have a back-out plan. You may not even fully realize the pit yer in until months later.