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TouchWiz is terrible.
Exhibit A: You cannot choose specific groups in your Google Contacts. I have so many contacts in my phones that I just do not want, but since the Contacts app in Touchwiz sucks so much, hooray?
Exhibit B: I set locations in my Calendar, but they arent usable. Meaning I cannot click it to jump into maps for navigation (which doesnt really work either). It even shows me a fantastic map and a tick where my location is...WHY CANT I CLICK IT?!?!?! Things I expect to work...epic fail.
Exhibit C: The overlay sucks. Nuff said there.
Anything I'm missing? Probably alot. Any suggestions on work arounds until we see a Cyanogen?
One word:
LauncherPro
Adminkiller said:
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What he said.
Launcher Pro won't fix his problems.
There's a couple of problems, but plenty of nice features as well
Swipe the notification for brightness, Swipe contacts for messaging/call, turn bluetooth/wifi/silent/vibrate in the notification bar. Not all bad. Make LP or ADW the launcher, and I think good outweighs the bad for me at least.
I guess I should have prefaced that with I am using launcher pro. Whoops
I agree with eman. I think all the very nice features of touch wiz outweigh the negatives. I would like to see the ability to select which google contact groups get synced. I how the add that in the future.
I've been pleasantly surprised with Touchwiz. Sure there are features that I would like to see implemented, but on the whole I like it. This is surprising to me given all the naysaying from the Android elitists.
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Touchwiz on the Captivate sucks bawlz.
Can you say "product maturity issues"
God, how I wish it had Sense. I actually wake up at night wishing for that.
You're complaining about issues that other android phones also have. You may not like the Touchwiz interface, but you can always buy a different phone.
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You're complaining about issues that other android phones also have. You may not like the Touchwiz interface, but you can always buy a different phone.
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As far as I know, these things are possible on stock 2.1. Correct me if im wrong?
As this is my first android powered phone, I am afraid I do not know.
To reiterate points previosly made by other posters. It's all about Launcher Pro. This is the beauty of Android. KTHXBYE
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You may not like the Touchwiz interface, but you can always buy a different phone.
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OK, Steve Jobs
novaIS350 said:
To reiterate points previosly made by other posters. It's all about Launcher Pro. This is the beauty of Android. KTHXBYE
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And once again, Launcher Pro wont fix the problems he has with the phone.
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How difficult would it be to do notifications like those shown in iOS5 (http://www.apple.com/ios/ios5/gallery.html#video-ios)?
They sure look good from a UI standpoint (I never found the stock Android notifications bar very elegant, or useful (it gets too cluttered).
If someone can build this into a ROM or a launcher, it would make many of us very happy.
No it wouldn't.
To me it looks like ****.
Pure copy of Android.
Only real difference I can tell is that the notifications are separated instead of all running into each other. Mail is under the mail title bar, messages is under the messages title bar, etc.
They do look quite nice. Apple always seem to get UI design looking good
voodooboy3000 said:
They do look quite nice. Apple always seem to get UI design looking good
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I'm gonna pretend I never heard that.
Just get yourself a iPhone and you can get it
MacGuy2006 said:
How difficult would it be to do notifications like those shown in iOS5 (http://www.apple.com/ios/ios5/gallery.html#video-ios)?
They sure look good from a UI standpoint (I never found the stock Android notifications bar very elegant, or useful (it gets too cluttered).
If someone can build this into a ROM or a launcher, it would make many of us very happy.
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Yes, but notifications have nothing to do with the launcher! They are included in the ROM itself.
No hope to find an app for that!
Making it would be easy, but finding someone that is willing to do it is harder
I could probably do it, but who wants it anyway?
Most people here are Apple haters.
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They do look quite nice. Apple always seem to get UI design looking good
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Not really? They're just squares.
I don't like Apple but i would like to see this running on our device.i mean really they copied the notification idea from android
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Why would you want something like that? Apple does many things but none of it is done properly.
Multitasking - its actually just alt + tab, apps do not run in the background, they are paused, that totally contradicts the term multitasking.
Browsing - wow I didn't even know they do not have text reflow, omg so lame, they just included it in this new update. It also doesn't have flash and the speed can't match android.
What UI? Oh you mean the app drawer, yeah it looks...limited. No scrollable wallpaper and no widgets, just a bunch of apps without any type of organization. I laugh at iFans telling me that they don't need widgets. Actually if you show off with some of the android exclusive features they say they do not need it, but once it's introduced in their crapOS they think its the best thing ever invented.
I'm only looking forward for the next android version which brings hardware acceleration, iOS will totally be left behind.
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I don't like Apple but i would like to see this running on our device.i mean really they copied the notification idea from android
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Oh great, lets pull the "patent" card. Samsung must of copied iOS by making their TouchWiz launcher appear as iOS.
Regardless of whatever someone suggests, Android is all about openness and options. If a dev wants to do it, go ahead. If you don't like it, then don't go in their threads bashing the idea.
The idea for Android is all about options, some you may like, some you won't. Move on.
The notification system actually came from a developer from the Cydia store. Apple hired him and he made their notification system.
Proof: http://www.gadgetera.in/apple-hired...ogether-a-better-ios-notification-system/834/
My bad bro i didn't mean to bash anyone of the idea of them doing this.
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Yes, but notifications have nothing to do with the launcher! They are included in the ROM itself.
No hope to find an app for that!
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detailed its a part of the systemui.apk and it would not that hard, but look at MIUI! Miles better than the apple crap
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I like the feature of having sliders on the lockscreen for all the different types of notifications which unlocks the phone and immediately opens up the corresponding app. That's a very nice addon.
I cant believe the ignorance of this OP, "iOS5-like notifications" more like android like notification + weather it justs adds clutter to the importantance of notificaions i think just a degree # would be it maybe in a miui rom or somethin
This is true. iOS is a really aesthetically pleasing UI. Android just feels bare bones. I personally own an iPad and I was playing around with some Android tablets at the store and boy were they ugly. I don't know, it just seems so bad.
Why can't we have nice apps like Apple?
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This is true. iOS is a really aesthetically pleasing UI. Android just feels bare bones. I personally own an iPad and I was playing around with some Android tablets at the store and boy were they ugly. I don't know, it just seems so bad.
Why can't we have nice apps like Apple?
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I can agree that Apple's apps are somehow better than Android. But I can assure you that, Android is growing ridiculously fast Probably just another few months, you will see that APPLE Android's will be equally good than Apple!
You say they are ugly? I can assure you that just searching around this forum, you can find theme and wallpaper and icon pack that is amazingly astonishing
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I like the feature of having sliders on the lockscreen for all the different types of notifications which unlocks the phone and immediately opens up the corresponding app. That's a very nice addon.
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We already have this feature via an application called WidgetLocker. And it is very nice, but apple is quite a but behind the 8 ball on this one. I have been running this feature via this app for at least 6 months now!
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This is off topic, but watching that video just made me angry. Is apple seriously that arrogant? "iOS is the world's most popular gaming platform". Are you serious? I can hear Gabe Newell laughing from here...
Just curious to see what people think of Launcher 7, for those who've tried it. I gotta say, I put it on yesterday out of curiosity, and was surprised by how much I like it. I love Android, and balked at Launcher 7 at first because it was a completely un-Android UI, but maybe it's because I've been on Android for like 2 years now, but I find it really refreshing. I like its simplicity, efficiency, and different sleek look.
I'm curious to see how it does with battery life. I used my navigation/GPS a lot today so my battery went pretty fast, not a good test of Launcher 7. I'm running it over Synergy (lightest Sense ROM I could find) and under battery use it's not even showing up so I'm guessing/hoping it doesn't have a big effect.
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Just curious to see what people think of Launcher 7, for those who've tried it. I gotta say, I put it on yesterday out of curiosity, and was surprised by how much I like it. I love Android, and balked at Launcher 7 at first because it was a completely un-Android UI, but maybe it's because I've been on Android for like 2 years now, but I find it really refreshing. I like its simplicity, efficiency, and different sleek look.
I'm curious to see how it does with battery life. I used my navigation/GPS a lot today so my battery went pretty fast, not a good test of Launcher 7. I'm running it over Synergy (lightest Sense ROM I could find) and under battery use it's not even showing up so I'm guessing/hoping it doesn't have a big effect.
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Many home launchers don't use much power, i've used GO/LPP and both are normally floating around 1%. Now I used the L7 very long ago, back on my MT3GS, and it was pretty nice to have IMO, I did like the UI's feel overall. But at that time it was still buggy so I think that's why I had abandoned it. I'm a fan of eye-candy so I prefer something more flashy with fancy effects. Which is what GO gives me, it has this cool sphere effect for the app drawer.
Your biggest power drainers will be idle/standnby and Signal, and GPS.
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Many home launchers don't use much power, i've used GO/LPP and both are normally floating around 1%. Now I used the L7 very long ago, back on my MT3GS, and it was pretty nice to have IMO, I did like the UI's feel overall. But at that time it was still buggy so I think that's why I had abandoned it. I'm a fan of eye-candy so I prefer something more flashy with fancy effects. Which is what GO gives me, it has this cool sphere effect for the app drawer.
Your biggest power drainers will be idle/standnby and Signal, and GPS.
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And screen if you're running a Sense ROM. I've always wondered why on a Sense ROM Screen will be like 70% under battery use, but on AOSP only like 5%. I mean, the same screen is being used on all these ROMS right? I've asked that a couple times but never found an answer. Oh well. I'm sure it has something to do with how the ROM is utilizing things, but who knows lol.
Yeah I've been a loyal LPP user for my 3rd party launcher for a while. Love the widgets and the customizable dock. My brother runs GO on his Samsung Galaxy S and is always telling me I should try it, haven't yet but it does look very cool. I've seen pics o that globe app tray thing, looks sick. Is it smooth though?
So far Luancher 7 has been VERY smooth and seems to have minimal battery influence, like you said about 2% I think it wound up being. More than if you weren't using it, but solid nonetheless. I'm doing a lot of driving to new places this week so I'll be using my GPS a lot, it's going to be hard to get an accurate guess of average battery life but as far as function/style I am a big fan.
I will say though that the strength of launcher 7 (simplicity) might turn out to be its ultimate downfall lol. I'm enjoying it now, but it's just been a couple days. I can certainly see myself getting bored with it after a while. It's very functional but there is certainly something to be said for style and flare, and that's one thing it doesn't offer much of.
As an add-on question along with what people think of Launcher 7 in general - I'm curious to hear from any users who are using the donate version - does it offer better performance and features? Or does it just remove the ad in the app drawer? I think it adds a folder feature, which is probably worth the $1.50 in itself, but curious what else it offers.
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And screen if you're running a Sense ROM. I've always wondered why on a Sense ROM Screen will be like 70% under battery use, but on AOSP only like 5%. I mean, the same screen is being used on all these ROMS right? I've asked that a couple times but never found an answer. Oh well. I'm sure it has something to do with how the ROM is utilizing things, but who knows lol.
Yeah I've been a loyal LPP user for my 3rd party launcher for a while. Love the widgets and the customizable dock. My brother runs GO on his Samsung Galaxy S and is always telling me I should try it, haven't yet but it does look very cool. I've seen pics o that globe app tray thing, looks sick. Is it smooth though?
So far Luancher 7 has been VERY smooth and seems to have minimal battery influence, like you said about 2% I think it wound up being. More than if you weren't using it, but solid nonetheless. I'm doing a lot of driving to new places this week so I'll be using my GPS a lot, it's going to be hard to get an accurate guess of average battery life but as far as function/style I am a big fan.
I will say though that the strength of launcher 7 (simplicity) might turn out to be its ultimate downfall lol. I'm enjoying it now, but it's just been a couple days. I can certainly see myself getting bored with it after a while. It's very functional but there is certainly something to be said for style and flare, and that's one thing it doesn't offer much of.
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I think i read somewhere that you can change the autobrightness and stuff of the screen and that sense has theirs up more or something, i don't remember.
But i use adw launcher ex and never see it on my battery stats, so i'm guessing that's good. And it never lags for me either, smooth as butter.
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As an add-on question along with what people think of Launcher 7 in general - I'm curious to hear from any users who are using the donate version - does it offer better performance and features? Or does it just remove the ad in the app drawer? I think it adds a folder feature, which is probably worth the $1.50 in itself, but curious what else it offers.
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I didn't really notice a difference with the donate version when i used it other than it looks alot better without the annoying ads.
I installed Launcher 7 and used it pretty exclusively for a while.
I got to really like how the UI operated, and found it very quick. But I eventually stopped using it and uninstalled it.
The idea, for me, was to get to a LiveTiles experience, where I could see at a glance how many new emails and social postings I might like to read, upcoming appointments, etc... without having to deal with the rest of the crummy WP7 interface. So I suppose my goal is probably different than many. But I couldn't get there with Launcher 7 (no surprise, since it's built - and named - as a "launcher").
As a simple app launcher, it was decent, for my most-used apps... though the second I needed to use less-used apps, I was somewhat disappointed/frustrated trying to find and run them.
That and, while I eventually understood it wouldn't take me all the way to LiveTiles, the fact that it didn't have (at the time) a clock/date widget that looked decent within the interface (seems like a stupid thing, but actually became a necessity for me) made me opt for something else.
Haha, yep - after about 4 or 5 days, I'm off Launcher 7. It WAS very good and functional, but as I predicted I got bored pretty fast. I play with my phone too much to not have something flashier and more interactive.
Wound up trying Go Launcher Ex, and have to say - it's way better than LPP! Loving it so far!
Question if you read this: how do I get that sphere app drawer thing? Can't find it?
EDIT: NM, I realized they only come up with horizontal app drawer, I had it set on vertical.
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Haha, yep - after about 4 or 5 days, I'm off Launcher 7. It WAS very good and functional, but as I predicted I got bored pretty fast. I play with my phone too much to not have something flashier and more interactive.
Wound up trying Go Launcher Ex, and have to say - it's way better than LPP! Loving it so far!
Question if you read this: how do I get that sphere app drawer thing? Can't find it?
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yup i used Go launcher Ex ever since i got this mt4g and i can say i like this a lot more than launcher 7 ( tried it for like 2 days and then i just got back to Go L Ex)
It sucks what wit the ad s to I rather use a theme for a another launcher like adw <-, best
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Haha, yep - after about 4 or 5 days, I'm off Launcher 7. It WAS very good and functional, but as I predicted I got bored pretty fast. I play with my phone too much to not have something flashier and more interactive.
Wound up trying Go Launcher Ex, and have to say - it's way better than LPP! Loving it so far!
Question if you read this: how do I get that sphere app drawer thing? Can't find it?
EDIT: NM, I realized they only come up with horizontal app drawer, I had it set on vertical.
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Look in the settings of Go launcher, look through all the settings, i've ended up on LPP again b/c it has the Sense3 widget skins, and appears to be running faster for me on miui. With GO I would get many fc's and it would lag sometimes, this started on the newer versions of GO though. Sphere is the app drawer effect, look in effects, when on home screen, press menu, goto preference, and look for effects. Sphere effect is with chariot, binary, random, and the other animations.
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having just recently moved from a WP7 to an Android phone Launcher 7 made me feel "back home" instantly. I like the WP7/Launcher 7 home screen with the big tiles; IMO it's a nice, fresh look compared to a large number of Android launchers or iOS. I never liked the 2nd page of the WP7 home screen - a one-column alpabetically sorted list of all installed apps? Boring and not very flexible.
I now use Go Launcher Ex and while I still like the look and feel of the Launcher 7 tiles, I do not miss it.
Hey there, i have a nexus S 4G, im aware what im trying is a tiny SDK port, however when it comes down to it, ICS is ugly. Just so very ugly. I understand why it would appeal to minimalist perhaps but i mean when it comes down to it the icons have regressed into something that looks vanilla. Who makes a menu dark greyish blue and then has a contacts application with BABY blue and pure white in the background. When i used to click on peoples icons i would get intuitive popup menus leading to a list of contact methods I.E. Phone, SMS, Facebook, Gmail... now i get this light blue pop up with a picture and some low quality icons that look as though they have been made by baboons. ICS in the theme department is no doubt a regression from Gingerbread, then when i go to phone i get a black background..Where is the consistency?....Where is... everything looks bulky, like they made it friendly for the use of 70 year old people with cataracts... on a good note the hardware acceleration is nice, i like how smoothly all the application run..and how the new browsers functions when scroling..actually scrolling in everything is nice now. Again lack of any consistency when in the phone app on the keypad..diagonal 2 tone lines with thin blue text..i look at it and nearly vomit because my eyes cant focus...definet regression. If this is the future of android..i dont want it...Sorry guys, just wanted to speak my mind.
Edit: After using it for about a day, it's grown on me a bit, but it still needs some polishing in the theme department. I mean it's like they could make up there minds of what color trend to stick with. White and baby blue or blue gray with black. Please google, bring back some consistency. Everything else is nice. Digging the new SMS , I imagine it will look good black. can't wait for cyanogen to have a crack at it.
RobbieCrash said:
F, 2/10
Please apply yourself.
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Didn't know this was a graded assignment. You really shouldn't flame people for there opinions, Brochacho.
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QFT. you're running a buggy SDK port of somehting that hasn't been released yet. and guess what?
that's what CUSTOM LAUNCHERS are for. you don't like something in android, you can CHANGE IT.
I think vanilla ICA is beautiful, but if you don't, well, go buy an HTC phone. or get ADW. i really don't care. stop hatin'. you're the minority.
Wow, you guys, its HIS opinion. If you don't agree with him, its not the end of the world. Honestly, I agree, it isn't very good looking at all. Just my 2 cents...
Agreed. It is his/her opinion and they have the right to it. And I for one agree with it. It is ugly but then I have not seen many stock android themes that weren't. As for being in the minority there I think your wrong. Look at how many custom themes there are for android. Only a small percentage stay on a stock theme.
Either way everyone has the right to what they think and should not and will not be flamed for it.
Nuff said
man, I don't know what you are on....I think the ICS theme is the nicest one so far!! Honestly, none of the stock vanilla android themes are pretty or aesthetically pleasing!! Froyo was just flat-out ass-ugly, imho!! At least they started trying to make it more intuitive and they are adding features that people are asking for....like the data monitor that can be broken down app-by-app....I love that!!! I now have unlimited data with sprint, but when I had at&t I can't count how many times I had screaming matches with customer service about my data usage!!
Like people said above....this is why apps like adw & launcher plus are around....use 'em!! They have hundreds of themes each
View my first post for an update.
hence, why i always advocate, try before you troll
"Eye Sore"
I'm not a fan of most of the changes either. DevBeat has an interview with Matias Duarte, where he discusses his reasoning, but I don't agree with some of it. I don't care that the phone and media apps are dark because they pop, and the Google apps are light to better match the web apps. IMO, they're all phone apps. They're installed on my phone (many of them preinstalled), they should be consistent.
venturebeat. com/2011/10/26/ice-cream-sandwich-design/
Out of boredom (and a most-likely misguided sense that I know better than Google) I started redesigning everything and posting it to my blog. I'd appreciate feedback.
swglickman80.blogspot .com/2011/10/android-40-ice-cream-sandwich.html
Well my initial response was quite negative also, but as you say, as time goes by you get used to it. Overall I believe it is quite an improvement over 2.x, and the dark themes and dark live wallpapers (eg bubbles) will look awesome on amoled screens.
Hi folks
I'm still on the edge between an iPhone and a HOX. Could someone please discuss the state of the multitasking issues on the AT&T HOX and summary of fixes?
Specifically my question is this: there are some services that always need to be running to get notifications, like free texting apps or skype. Some services upload photos in the background, like Dropbox. Is it true that these services get killed by the multitasking as well on stock?
I've heard that Dropbox does get killed. I've never heard anything about skype and similar apps that need to sit in the background listening, so I imagine they are working fine on stock Sense?
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I'm still on the edge between an iPhone and a HOX. Could someone please discuss the state of the multitasking issues on the AT&T HOX and summary of fixes?
Specifically my question is this: there are some services that always need to be running to get notifications, like free texting apps or skype. Some services upload photos in the background, like Dropbox. Is it true that these services get killed by the multitasking as well on stock?
I've heard that Dropbox does get killed. I've never heard anything about skype and similar apps that need to sit in the background listening, so I imagine they are working fine on stock Sense?
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When I was on Sense roms with stock multitasking, I never had issues with long-running background services being killed. It was only things like the browser being killed and having to reload and other apps that have their front end killed.
Can't really comment on the services you mentioned, but just some general observations about multi-task:
Some people have complained that during games, if you do something else, like say someone sends you an SMS and you respond, that when you go back to the game, your progress will not have been saved. I don't have time for games these days. So I can't personally comment on that.
Really, it depends on how you use your phone. For some people, the multi-tasking behavior is a deal breaker. For me, I'm fine with it. I mostly only notice it when leaving the browser. It will almost always have to reload the webpage you were looking at.
Have you actually compared the iPhone and the One X in person? There really is no comparison between the two. The huge gorgeous screen of the One X makes the iPhone look like a toy.
You're worried about multitasking but you're willing to go iPhone? Lol hox will be fine
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Well the iPhone is going to get a bigger screen. The PPI and brightness are almost the same between iPhone and HOX.
And iphone doesn't kill your game progress and clear your text entry fields when you switch apps. And it doesn't silently kill Dropbox while it's uploading (it does kill it, but gives Dropbox a chance to notify of that first).
The jailbreak tweaks for iPhone are for my purposes completely on par with android.
My only reasons for considering switching is that the iPhone is going to get harder and harder to jailbreak (I'm expecting a 6 month wait this time). plus lose google maps which is a huge debacle.
I'm open to HOX but would need a fix to the multitasking issues.
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Well the iPhone is going to get a bigger screen.
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That's just a rumor, and its been the same (incorrect) rumor for the last 1-2 iPhone versions, at least.
My bet is on the screen size of the iPhone is not changing any time soon. If they make the screen much larger, and keep the resolution the same, it will look like crap. If they change the screen resolution, they fragment the iOS that they have keep pretty much unified for 5 years. People keep talking about the "iPad Mini" (something around a 7" iPad), but my hunch is that is not going to happen either, for the same reasons of not fragmenting iOS. But those are just my personal gut feelings.
And seriously, if you haven't held a One X in person, do it. The screen size is gigantic compared to the iPhone. You have to see it to believe it. My previous phone was a Desire Z, which had a form factor not much different from the iPhone. When I go back to it (pulled some files off it), I can't believe I ever used a phone with a screen that small. Similar feelings when I pick up my wife's iPhone.
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I'm open to HOX but would need a fix to the multitasking issues.
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There has been some fixes to multi-tasking, both available as a stand-alone mod, and on custom ROMs. So check out Development, and read more on it if nobody chimes in about those here. As I mentioned, I've been fine with multitasking. So I haven't tried any of the mods.
Also, the Asia 2.23 firmware makes changes to both the multitasking (how aggressively idle processes are killed) and free memory at boot (how much memory Sense takes). A new AT&T firmware (2.20) is just now rolling out OTA as we speak, and likely has the same tweaks. So that in itself might fix what you want. But like I said, I don't game these days, so I can't say.
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Well the iPhone is going to get a bigger screen.
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I don't think it's going to be 4.7" big. That's quite a shoe to fill. PPI is less of an issue for both the phones. Unless you have amazing vision or whip out a magnifying glass, you can't even see individual pixels. A higher PPI is usually a better thing, but beyond a certain point, it becomes indistinguishable.
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And iphone doesn't kill your game progress and clear your text entry fields when you switch apps. And it doesn't silently kill Dropbox while it's uploading (it does kill it, but gives Dropbox a chance to notify of that first).
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At least with an HTC One X you can control how the multitasking behaves. However, I do want to address two issues: 1) the clearing of the text boxes has more to do with the apps you're using than the multitasking itself and 2) unlike the HTC One X, apps like Dropbox can't just linger in the background and upload new images as they're taken. I ran into that limitation quite a bit back when I still had my iPhone.
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The jailbreak tweaks for iPhone are for my purposes completely on par with android.
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I know this may sound like blasphemy in this community, but I wouldn't ever recommend buying a phone simply based on what you can do after you root/jailbreak. Usually you can reasonably expect a method for root/jailbreak to come alone, but you can never guarantee it. Always pick a device based on how it suits your needs and desires without any extensive modifications.
All of this being said, even with multitasking being as it is on the HTC One X, I'd still recommend it over an iPhone. As previous users have mentioned, the effect of the stock multitasking setting is only visible on things like web browsers and some games. If you go under the system settings and modify its behavior, you'll probably achieve the desired effect. If you don't feel like tweaking system settings, you can always install an app like SMS Popup which lets you quick-rely to messages without ever leaving your current task.
One thing I do pride Android on is the ability to have background tasks for applications. With my iPhone I would find that (aside from default apps like Mail and Messages) certain apps wouldn't provide notifications when they should have. For example: if I hadn't launched Words with Friends since a reboot, I'd never get notifications from it. Same thing with uploading images from Dropbox.
The other thing that persuaded me to switch to an Android device was the ability to customize and personalize out of the box. On an iPhone, the most you can do is change backgrounds/sounds/icon arrangement. On an Android device you have full control over your home screen. You can manipulate icons arbitrarily (putting gaps between them, skipping pages, remove icons without uninstalling the app, etc), you can install widgets to quickly access information/settings/apps at a glance, live wallpapers, and even make shortcuts (such as a one-click "Directions to get Home" and "Sound Settings"). Heck, you can even install custom keyboards.
All-in-all it took me about a week to get used to how Android does things, but whenever I play with my old iPhone (my girlfriend uses it now), things just don't feel quite right. The best way to describe it is that on my HTC One X, I get to make the rules. I get to decide how things look and feel and how the system responds to my actions. Playing with my iPhone I feel like I'm not making any of my own rules. Sure, I can change some settings, but compared to Android it feels like a thin veil over how Apple things I should use my device.
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Btw multitasking never kills any of those things mentioned. Drop box never stops during uploads.
Android> iOS
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Thanks for the replies. I have spent about an hour playing with HOX in store and tons of time researching whether it can suit my needs.
Franklly it has been hard to track down android equivalents of everything I can do on jail broken iOS. For reading full emails without unlocking the device it looks like a combination of widget locker and a few widgets can do it, but it just feels a bit hacked together and not as polished as Lockinfo on iOS, which is a one-stop solution. And there doesn't quite appear to be any replacement for Activator, which is a unified gesture framework where you can do things like turn on the flashlight by pushing both volume buttons at the same time and bring up the previous app with a slide on the status bar. Now I know if I look hard enough something similar for android will turn up but will it be as well supported as these iOS tweaks with hundreds of thousands of users? not so sure.
In the I think the iPhone is under appreciated here in terms of how professional the jailbreak community is and how it can easily match android for power and tweak ability. The main issue is that apple is hiring the jailbreak developers and jail breaking itself will be incredibly hard as time progresses because it relies on patching binaries and finding vulnerabilities.
The multitasking seems to be improved in the 4.0.4 update.
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pausaniasx said:
Thanks for the replies. I have spent about an hour playing with HOX in store and tons of time researching whether it can suit my needs.
Franklly it has been hard to track down android equivalents of everything I can do on jail broken iOS. For reading full emails without unlocking the device it looks like a combination of widget locker and a few widgets can do it, but it just feels a bit hacked together and not as polished as Lockinfo on iOS, which is a one-stop solution. And there doesn't quite appear to be any replacement for Activator, which is a unified gesture framework where you can do things like turn on the flashlight by pushing both volume buttons at the same time and bring up the previous app with a slide on the status bar. Now I know if I look hard enough something similar for android will turn up but will it be as well supported as these iOS tweaks with hundreds of thousands of users? not so sure.
In the I think the iPhone is under appreciated here in terms of how professional the jailbreak community is and how it can easily match android for power and tweak ability. The main issue is that apple is hiring the jailbreak developers and jail breaking itself will be incredibly hard as time progresses because it relies on patching binaries and finding vulnerabilities.
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Android as a whole is much better than ios. I owned four, yes four iterations of the iPhone and jail broke them all. I have also owned 2 android devices. Take it from someone who has owned and rooted/jail broke both. Android is better.
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Hey, if the man wants to create an android vs iPhone thread, then state he wants the iPhone, who are we to correct him. He's not going to change his mind and never had any intention of doing so. Just let the sheep be.
I think you should just get the iPhone.
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Some of the people here may say its not that bad, but trust me dude compared to other android phones its pretty damn bad, bad enough for me to get rid of the phone. Ie, if you are listening to music and browsing. Go change the song and come back to be greeted by the web browser reloading the WHOLE PAGE over again.
Really go play with one in the store before you make your decision id say, as a poster before me mentioned one of the gleaming features of android is its ability to multitask amazingly, if thats absent then its terrible. Imo the multi tasking on the hox is below even that of the iphone. Just really play with it before you make a decision, with that said i wouldnt necessarily say the hox is a worser phone than the iphone even, it isnt. Its a great phone and is still imo better than the 4s today.
I REALLLLY do miss my hox sometimes though, the amazing build quality. and the display really owns anything else on the market right now.
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Some of the people here may say its not that bad, but trust me dude compared to other android phones its pretty damn bad, bad enough for me to get rid of the phone. Ie, if you are listening to music and browsing. Go change the song and come back to be greeted by the web browser reloading the WHOLE PAGE over again.
Really go play with one in the store before you make your decision id say, as a poster before me mentioned one of the gleaming features of android is its ability to multitask amazingly, if thats absent then its terrible. Imo the multi tasking on the hox is below even that of the iphone. Just really play with it before you make a decision, with that said i wouldnt necessarily say the hox is a worser phone than the iphone even, it isnt. Its a great phone and is still imo better than the 4s today.
I REALLLLY do miss my hox sometimes though, the amazing build quality. and the display really owns anything else on the market right now.
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Pretty sure that only happes with the stock browser... So that's a pretty damn bad example.
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ECEXCURSION said:
Pretty sure that only happes with the stock browser... So that's a pretty damn bad example.
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Nope, i used chrome actually. Also happens with tons of other apps, used to redraw my sms app all the time too.
Doesn't Android have some kind of popup that you can use to control your music without having to leave the app?
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Nope, i used chrome actually. Also happens with tons of other apps, used to redraw my sms app all the time too.
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Alright, just tried both the stock browser with Pandora and the stock browser with google music player.... The page will not reload if I switch apps and change a song. So either you're lying or aren't using HTC's latest code. This is on CleanROM 4.5.
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Alright, just tried both the stock browser with Pandora and the stock browser with google music player.... The page will not reload if I switch apps and change a song. So either you're lying or aren't using HTC's latest code. This is on CleanROM 4.5.
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You're not honestly promoting the stock One X's multitasking ability, are you?
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Well, the new recent update made multitasking a LOT better. As in it doesn't suck.
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You're not honestly promoting the stock One X's multitasking ability, are you?
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redrubberpenguin said:
Well, the new recent update made multitasking a LOT better. As in it doesn't suck.
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Correctamundo... I was referring the very well documented multitasking woes on 1.73 and 1.85. But from all I've read, the new update goes a long way to fix multitasking. Looking forward to getting it! I really love this phone, even if I do stick to only the stock ROMs.