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/facepalm TouchWiz why do you fail me so?

So...
TouchWiz is terrible.
Exhibit A: You cannot choose specific groups in your Google Contacts. I have so many contacts in my phones that I just do not want, but since the Contacts app in Touchwiz sucks so much, hooray?
Exhibit B: I set locations in my Calendar, but they arent usable. Meaning I cannot click it to jump into maps for navigation (which doesnt really work either). It even shows me a fantastic map and a tick where my location is...WHY CANT I CLICK IT?!?!?! Things I expect to work...epic fail.
Exhibit C: The overlay sucks. Nuff said there.
Anything I'm missing? Probably alot. Any suggestions on work arounds until we see a Cyanogen?

One word:
LauncherPro

Adminkiller said:
One word:
LauncherPro
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What he said.

Launcher Pro won't fix his problems.

There's a couple of problems, but plenty of nice features as well
Swipe the notification for brightness, Swipe contacts for messaging/call, turn bluetooth/wifi/silent/vibrate in the notification bar. Not all bad. Make LP or ADW the launcher, and I think good outweighs the bad for me at least.

I guess I should have prefaced that with I am using launcher pro. Whoops

I agree with eman. I think all the very nice features of touch wiz outweigh the negatives. I would like to see the ability to select which google contact groups get synced. I how the add that in the future.

I've been pleasantly surprised with Touchwiz. Sure there are features that I would like to see implemented, but on the whole I like it. This is surprising to me given all the naysaying from the Android elitists.
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Touchwiz on the Captivate sucks bawlz.
Can you say "product maturity issues"
God, how I wish it had Sense. I actually wake up at night wishing for that.

You're complaining about issues that other android phones also have. You may not like the Touchwiz interface, but you can always buy a different phone.

djgleebs said:
You're complaining about issues that other android phones also have. You may not like the Touchwiz interface, but you can always buy a different phone.
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As far as I know, these things are possible on stock 2.1. Correct me if im wrong?
As this is my first android powered phone, I am afraid I do not know.

To reiterate points previosly made by other posters. It's all about Launcher Pro. This is the beauty of Android. KTHXBYE

djgleebs said:
You may not like the Touchwiz interface, but you can always buy a different phone.
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OK, Steve Jobs

novaIS350 said:
To reiterate points previosly made by other posters. It's all about Launcher Pro. This is the beauty of Android. KTHXBYE
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And once again, Launcher Pro wont fix the problems he has with the phone.
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Optimus 2x miui in progress, WAB G2X? Discussion

http://miui-dev.com/forums/showthread.php?4679-ROM-WIP-LG-Optimus-2X-Port-In-Development
Any news for g2x? I have taken a break from making roms and am also new to Porting roms, so someone should have a go.
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Can't be too far behind. Its what I'm looking forward to most.

Yes!!! I love me some Miui :-D
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After seeing the new update for the MT4G, I can't wait for MIUI! I haven't been this excited about it in months.

EmceeGeek said:
After seeing the new update for the MT4G, I can't wait for MIUI! I haven't been this excited about it in months.
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I've never personally used MIUI but from what I have read people either love it or hate it. Why do you want it so much? What are the benefits?

its AOSP and the UI is different from the android we are used to here in the US. Even if you use a different launcher. Lots of extra features and customization to be done also.

sryan1983 said:
I've never personally used MIUI but from what I have read people either love it or hate it. Why do you want it so much? What are the benefits?
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I've used it.. and loved it on my G2. It's android with the iPhone polish man. Lots of great eye candy, downloadable boot animations themes, wallpapers, ringtones, notifications, etc... all built in. a GREAT task management/settings/net traffic tracker... built in.
I would suggest you give it a shot when it comes out. TONS of features.
Here's what i boils down to"
If you like a smooth clean polished and highly customizable UI (a lot of the work done for you.. it eliminated my need for quite a few apps I use for system management)... you'll like this.
if you want to run a stock vanilla form of android that allows YOU to do all of the tweaking and enjoy adb pushes and coding... run CM7 (which is also a FANTASTIC option)

I personally liked how aesthetically pleasing miui is. But I bought an android device to run android os not ios ;-)
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I know BUT ios is polished so is miui. It's the best of both worlds
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Right.. that's my point. it doesn't LOOK like iOS.. but i don't think ANYONE would argue that iOS has a lot more "love in the UI details" (ie... POLISH.. it's nice looking and consistently so). While android.. is definitely a hacker/programmers UI. VERY tweakable and functional.. just not that nice looking.

the resemblance it iOS is really peoples only objection to MIUI but the fact is that's only the default launcher. change the launcher and its no longer an issue.

Really?!? people think it looks like iOS?!? why because they're no app drawer? that's literally the only thing I can think of that's like iOS that isn't part of android anyway. (they both have dockable apps at the bottom, they both have a status bar with signal/time/date/etc). otherwise.. it's just Android with some UI love (polish). that's IT.. and like you said.. you can change the launcher.. but i don't see a reason to.

True. The only other thing is the way they changes the ticking system to the tab system. That's all i can think of.
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btate0121 said:
Really?!? people think it looks like iOS?!? why because they're no app drawer? that's literally the only thing I can think of that's like iOS that isn't part of android anyway. (they both have dockable apps at the bottom, they both have a status bar with signal/time/date/etc). otherwise.. it's just Android with some UI love (polish). that's IT.. and like you said.. you can change the launcher.. but i don't see a reason to.
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the icons themselves have an iPhone feel to them as well. as for the launcher.. that comes down to preference.

regP said:
the icons themselves have an iPhone feel to them as well. as for the launcher.. that comes down to preference.
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But there are themes. If you really hate iPhone you can still live with miui.
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I'm quite aware of that. I'm pro-MIUI.. Had it on my Vibrant since it was released for the phone. I was just saying the default theme is what turns people off of the ROM upon first glance.

There are lots of benefits to MIUI. For starters it usually runs VERY fast. It was the first rom to include toggles in the notification menu (CM7 does this now too). Also the menu's are no longer 6 squares, but listed. The whole OS is themable (CM7 is now too).
I am not particularly fond of the homescreen setup (No App Drawer) because all of your apps are on your desktop like iOS. The stock launcher is basically the same as iOS except you can put icons anywhere and supports widgets.
The Icons are very pretty and large, which I like.
You can accomplish most of this by using CM7, a good CM7 theme, and ADW EX with a MIUI theme.
I'm all about more custom roms. I enjoyed MIUI for a few days but damn CM7 nightlies always have me going back to try out the new features.

MIUI is a lot more than a simple skin. As others have said, its blazing fast, has amazing features built in (I really like being able to control all of my connections by the dropdown bar and even being able to reboot and such through the same bar) and is extremely polished.
The availability of themes can make it decidedly un-iOS very easily. The customization options built into the ROM are absolutely insane and I have it on my Inspire as well as my Captivate - I really hope someone picks it up and ports it to the G2x.
In comparison to most other devices, development on the G2x seems to be pretty slow overall which is a huge bummer. I guess too many people are busy constantly exchanging their devices to actually get cracking on development. *eye roll*

What do you like most (or least) about ICS?

Like the title says, what are the changes that you most favor in ICS?
For me, these are my favorite improvements (in no particular order):
1. Ability to swipe down notification bar while screen locked
2. Improved camera speed and quality
3. Vastly improved gallery
4. ICS Keyboard
5. Voice - to - text
6. Browser
7. General appearance/asthetics
8. Email, Gmail, and calender
Just curious to see what everyone else likes (or dislikes for that matter) about ICS.

mlin said:
Like the title says, what are the changes that you most favor in ICS?
For me, these are my favorite improvements (in no particular order):
1. Ability to swipe down notification bar while screen locked
2. Improved camera speed and quality
3. Vastly improved gallery
4. ICS Keyboard
5. Voice - to - text
6. Browser
7. General appearance/asthetics
8. Email, Gmail, and calender
Just curious to see what everyone else likes (or dislikes for that matter) about ICS.
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You said it all ;-)
I like specially the calendar (pinch to zoom and unzoom !) and the browser, almost as fast as my computer !
I can't really tell something that I dislike.

I love how "done" it feels. Everything matches the new UI theme perfectly. Also, it's stupidly fast. The one thing I was always jealous of WP7 and iOS users was that their OS's were just a bit smoother and faster. Now I can finally say that ours is perfectly how I want it.

Hakizi said:
I love how "done" it feels.
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I think you've hit the nail on the head. Everything is integrated perfectly. Everything is in harmony. Everything just feels 'right'.
I think its a major game changer for Google. ICS wipes ios5 all over the floor and then some.
My next tablet will definitely be the Samsung 10.1 successor (currently using an iPad) running a flavour of Android 4.
I'm smitten

No launcher crashes any more, no lag when exiting applications or generally swiping back and forward, and faster stock browser are the main ones for me.

Hakizi said:
I love how "done" it feels. Everything matches the new UI theme perfectly. Also, it's stupidly fast. The one thing I was always jealous of WP7 and iOS users was that their OS's were just a bit smoother and faster. Now I can finally say that ours is perfectly how I want it.
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I totally agree. We finally have a version of Android that feels "polished." It's beautiful and fluid throughout the OS.

For some reason, I can't download anything from the marketplace. Any suggestions?
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I completely agree with everybody and I feel like when ics miui is polished, my phone will be unstoppable!!

trigger1209 said:
For some reason, I can't download anything from the marketplace. Any suggestions?
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I am running creamed glacier beta 5.1
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trigger1209 said:
I am running creamed glacier beta 5.1
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I would ask in the ROM thread. I have seen that issue reported many times on many ROMs but I have no idea what the solution is.

HATE some of the icons... Overall it is very done and feels complete, except the icons look a bit unprofessional imo.
Such as the contacts and messaging icon. I use ICS with custom icons to replace the ones i dont feel fit properly. For example, the messaging icon is an awkward green and WAY too tall.
But over all it deserves a 9/10

Polished is a very good way to put the feel of using ICS. It certainly does feel "complete" and relaxed. Definitely the largest reason to love it.. right behind notifications + power options in notifications bar to do with as i please while it's locked
Keyboard is a solid step forward (and predictive text works better than GB from my use).
The browser is a HUGE step forward, but it's definitely not there yet.
Gallery works much better, far fewer issues than before. HOWEVER, i hate having to click the photo twice to get into the gallery after taking a photo.
Also, IntelSoftApps has really hit the nail on the head.. the contacts, messaging, calendar and gallery just look like they don't belong there. What would be the least intrusive way to change these (editing the apk?)?

What I love about ICS:
-the overall design and how polished it is
-how smooth it is
- all the new gapps

Shouldn't the caller id, when receiving a call, have a transparent background? When someone calls there is a big black box covering lower half of the screen with the little white headphone... Is it a Nexus S bug, or an ICS feature? I think it would be better transparent...

I like lots of features of ICS. I love the new font, the market icon in the app tray, the ability to create app folders, and the ability to swipe away single notifications. Honestly my only real complaint is with the app drawer...I hate having to scroll sideways. Logically when you have a list of something, you expect it to be vertical, not horizontal. But hey, that's how iOS does it so that's how Android should do it too, right? *rolls eyes*
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for me is the new UI.
So amazing

I like the new "web-os-like" multitasking. Simply swipe to close an open app. Great.
Much more efficienct than ios.
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full power of GPU now makes graphics intensive gaming incredible

I'd let you know if google would pull their heads out of their asses and release an OTA for NS4G, or any other nexus besides the ONE MODEL to get it already!!!
they are really dropping the ball. I understand the holidays really put things behind schedule, but maybe they should have thought about that before they made plans to push a new update just before the holidays.

hp420 said:
I'd let you know if google would pull their heads out of their asses and release an OTA for NS4G, or any other nexus besides the ONE MODEL to get it already!!!
they are really dropping the ball. I understand the holidays really put things behind schedule, but maybe they should have thought about that before they made plans to push a new update just before the holidays.
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Just to let you know...no matter how better the ns4g be owner the ns.....the Original nexus s will always be on top
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Notification draw on lock screen??

Is it possible to get my notification draw onto my lock screen??
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????/
For real? Not trying to be a ****, but just pull down from the top of the screen!??!

Chocu1a said:
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For real? Not trying to be a ****, but just pull down from the top of the screen!??!
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He must be on ICS. It only works on jb I think. But I still loled at your response haha
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hopesrequiem said:
He must be on ICS. It only works on jb I think. But I still loled at your response haha
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I could do it on ics... You can't do it when you have a pass code or patter lock you can only do it when there's no security
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Lol. Don't you think I've tried pulling down on the screen, dumbass. Lol.
Is there a way to get it to show up on JB with a security code?
This is why I shouldve just stuck with a jailbreak on a iPhone. Haha. Easier to tweak it.
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If you have a passcode you can't pull it down. And that is for obvious reasons, because if you have passcode on your phone you obviously don't want random people getting into it or seeing stuff, so that's why the notification bar can't be pulled down.
As for your iphone comment, if you really wanna use a **** phone, with **** tweaks then go ahead and get it. But the reasoning for it not being pulled down while having a passcode is obvious.
Oh and it works PERFECT on my S3 running AOSP Jellybean incase you were wondering

Jarrid42 said:
Lol. Don't you think I've tried pulling down on the screen, dumbass. Lol.
Is there a way to get it to show up on JB with a security code?
This is why I shouldve just stuck with a jailbreak on a iPhone. Haha. Easier to tweak it.
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Well for future reference if you give more details then this isn't working. You might get an answer that helps. Your op said nothing about security lock codes or even what ROM you are on. So the answer of just pull down was reasonable.
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New to android. didnt think it matter on either rom nor secruity. it didnt on iphone lol.
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Jarrid42 said:
New to android. didnt think it matter on either rom nor secruity. it didnt on iphone lol.
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Its okay, it's just helpful for us when you post more information, it helps us help you better

Jarrid42 said:
New to android. didnt think it matter on either rom nor secruity. it didnt on iphone lol.
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Well then, first welcome. Next though the more details you can give the better. You'll find that the community here wants to help, but can only do that if they understand the problem.
Also, I can promise android is easier to tweak and easier to save if you screw up. It us just a learning curve, but one you get it you'll love it m just remember make sure you read what you are doing, search for answers and if you still don't understand ask.
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kintwofan said:
Well for future reference if you give more details then this isn't working. You might get an answer that helps. Your op said nothing about security lock codes or even what ROM you are on. So the answer of just pull down was reasonable.
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you must have never used a iphone with a jailbreak. easier to mod. 1000s of more tweaks that you can select through a simple app store. Not ones that come with a ROM.

Jarrid42 said:
you must have never used a iphone with a jailbreak. easier to mod. 1000s of more tweaks that you can select through a simple app store. Not ones that come with a ROM.
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You're right. The must I ever did was jail break and unlock to increase resale, but it was a pain. However, that was probably my learning curve. Either way I prefer to tweak by swapping out ROMs radios, etc.
Hey you might want to check out the pimp ROM app. It lets you select a bunch of tweaks from a simple to use app. Kind of like cydia.
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Thanks. Eh. Every tweak seems to be on Google play. Not all work for this phone. And not very many. They ones that come with a ROM are okay. But I got them all on the iPhone too. Even with toogles on a widget.
Let's say if I wanted my lock screen to show up one when I'm not on my home WiFi. I could. Or password anything. Photo albums. Folders. Apps. I mean you can do that on here somewhat. But toggles for it would be nice. I phones are a lot easier to tweak. All tweaks are categorized in a appstore. Cydia is nice. Sorry die hard jailbreak fan.. lol
Hate how the keyboard on here takes the whole screen in landscape mode. Hate that the most. Lol. Its annoying. Also the notifications for apps and such on here are horrible! No badge numbers. Nothing! Lol. Sucks. Android is okay for the average user I guess. But someone who wants to tweak there phone to their liking with themes,boot logos, security, overclocking(think that's what its called in android world) lol, choose iPhone 4s or above.
Just was sitting here bored. Sorry to go off topic. Haha
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Check out miui
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kintwofan said:
Check out miui
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MIUI ROM downloader? Doesn't support galaxy SIII only one and two..
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nvm i see it in ROM manager. ill check it out...

Jarrid42 said:
Thanks. Eh. Every tweak seems to be on Google play. Not all work for this phone. And not very many. They ones that come with a ROM are okay. But I got them all on the iPhone too. Even with toogles on a widget.
Let's say if I wanted my lock screen to show up one when I'm not on my home WiFi. I could. Or password anything. Photo albums. Folders. Apps. I mean you can do that on here somewhat. But toggles for it would be nice. I phones are a lot easier to tweak. All tweaks are categorized in a appstore. Cydia is nice. Sorry die hard jailbreak fan.. lol
Hate how the keyboard on here takes the whole screen in landscape mode. Hate that the most. Lol. Its annoying. Also the notifications for apps and such on here are horrible! No badge numbers. Nothing! Lol. Sucks. Android is okay for the average user I guess. But someone who wants to tweak there phone to their liking with themes,boot logos, security, overclocking(think that's what its called in android world) lol, choose iPhone 4s or above.
Just was sitting here bored. Sorry to go off topic. Haha
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Android phones are for the average user? It's more like iPhones are for the average user. What I'm wondering is why in the world did you get an android phone if you're a die-hard jailbreak fan?
As for being bored, why not flash some roms, kernels, themes, etc.

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MIUI ROM downloader? Doesn't support galaxy SIII only one and two..
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No the official ROM. You'll get more of the iPhone feel.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31453543
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Neverendingxsin said:
Android phones are for the average user? It's more like iPhones are for the average user. What I'm wondering is why in the world did you get an android phone if you're a die-hard jailbreak fan?
As for being bored, why not flash some roms, kernels, themes, etc.
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guess you right in that sense, that the iphone is for the average user. but once it is jailbroken. Probably like flashing all this stuff to your phone as you call it. All this is in, Cydia, the modified app store for all of this stuff you mention. You can add and remove tweaks to any iOS without having to "flash" anything. Of course it can get complex.
I have a friend who works for Verizon who convinced me into trying a Android. Plain and simple. iPhone will be my next upgrade. lol.
Maybe im not doing my searching right or my google history needs erased again. But all I want on my phone is apps installed directly to SD card. (read this wasn't possible). Its okay if it's not possible. notification badges. None seem to work on my ROM for some reason. (CM10 latest nightly). Well I take that back, SMS does. Their all enabled to in settings, gMail, phone, SMS.. Also now I have to go to my app drawer to click on a call to answer it. doesnt stay on my screen to accept. More themes. Seeing them on Google play. Their mostly ugly. maybe it's the lack of retina display. But nothing fancy either in the same line. I'll keep searching and asking i guess.

Jarrid42 said:
guess you right in that sense, that the iphone is for the average user. but once it is jailbroken. Probably like flashing all this stuff to your phone as you call it. All this is in, Cydia, the modified app store for all of this stuff you mention. You can add and remove tweaks to any iOS without having to "flash" anything. Of course it can get complex.
I have a friend who works for Verizon who convinced me into trying a Android. Plain and simple. iPhone will be my next upgrade. lol.
Maybe im not doing my searching right or my google history needs erased again. But all I want on my phone is apps installed directly to SD card. (read this wasn't possible). Its okay if it's not possible. notification badges. None seem to work on my ROM for some reason. (CM10 latest nightly). Well I take that back, SMS does. Their all enabled to in settings, gMail, phone, SMS.. Also now I have to go to my app drawer to click on a call to answer it. doesnt stay on my screen to accept. More themes. Seeing them on Google play. Their mostly ugly. maybe it's the lack of retina display. But nothing fancy either in the same line. I'll keep searching and asking i guess.
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I'd recommend trying out different AOSP roms, such as Liquid Smooth, Paranoid Android, King Kong, AOKP, and get a sense of each one. You can also download Nova or Apex launcher and they'll both give you more options for notification badges. Stock AOSP android is pretty plain but that's the point of it though, The customization is up to you

I'll look into them. Im running CM10 ROM now. It's not bad. It'd probably be much greater if I could get my apps to store on external SDCard instead of internal. I'll keep looking them ROMs or whatever you mentioned to see if they have anything i'm looking for..

Help making Touchwiz look better?

I'm trying to theme Touchwiz to look more, AOSPish
And would like some assistance, I have no coding skills whatsoever so I'll just be ripping stuff out of the systemUI.apk
I plan on changing those navbar buttons (God they look like crap)
The Quickapps flip button, to look like more minimal, maybe like the green dot Lenovo use to have on their HC tablets
And that blue divider on top of the NavBar (Why did they put that there.
And if anyone knows if its possile to change the panel that slides up, please let me know!
I'll get into it as soon as I get the latest version for the n8013 usa, (few hours)

ThaDSman said:
I'm trying to theme Touchwiz to look more, AOSPish
And would like some assistance, I have no coding skills whatsoever so I'll just be ripping stuff out of the systemUI.apk
I plan on changing those navbar buttons (God they look like crap)
The Quickapps flip button, to look like more minimal, maybe like the green dot Lenovo use to have on their HC tablets
And that blue divider on top of the NavBar (Why did they put that there.
And if anyone knows if its possile to change the panel that slides up, please let me know!
I'll get into it as soon as I get the latest version for the n8013 usa, (few hours)
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i have been working on something all nite, it is quite painstaking, still need to work out a few bugs, really need to figure out how to change the font color, any feedbad would be great

TouchWiz is Fine
ThaDSman said:
I'm trying to theme Touchwiz to look more, AOSPish
And would like some assistance, I have no coding skills whatsoever so I'll just be ripping stuff out of the systemUI.apk
I plan on changing those navbar buttons (God they look like crap)
The Quickapps flip button, to look like more minimal, maybe like the green dot Lenovo use to have on their HC tablets
And that blue divider on top of the NavBar (Why did they put that there.
And if anyone knows if its possile to change the panel that slides up, please let me know!
I'll get into it as soon as I get the latest version for the n8013 usa, (few hours)
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IT IS TIME WE STOP BUYING INTO APPLE'S ISSUES WITH SAMSUNG & ANDROID. It is the reason Adobe stopped supporting Flash on mobile which we all like. TouchWiz looks a lot better than stock Android with the black app drawer. TW is just adds a transparent affect among other things plus the multitasking. Somebody should be trying to make stock Android and IOS look more polished liked TouchWiz.

edirector said:
IT IS TIME WE STOP BUYING INTO APPLE'S ISSUES WITH SAMSUNG & ANDROID. It is the reason Adobe stopped supporting Flash on mobile which we all like. TouchWiz looks a lot better than stock Android with the black app drawer. TW is just adds a transparent affect among other things plus the multitasking. Somebody should be trying to make stock Android and IOS look more polished liked TouchWiz.
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That's the one good thing a about all flavours of Android they are highly customizable. As for Apple they make a great product don't get me wrong, but I think the main reason Apple is losing traction is because it treats is users like children, you can only have a cookie is mommy says you can
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ckavvouras said:
That's the one good thing a about all flavours of Android they are highly customizable. As for Apple they make a great product don't get me wrong, but I think the main reason Apple is losing traction is because it treats is users like children, you can only have a cookie is mommy says you can
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Actually, I think Apple is losing ground because better technology has been coming out at more and more affordable rates, and Android has been getting better and better each year. I know of a lot of people who went from the old Android (the crap, free ones basically) to Apple because of how ****ty Android used to be, compared to Apple. However, with the better, affordable tech that has been coming out, it's given people a chance to see how good Android is now, so people don't have this "amagawd, I'm computer illiterate so I must use Applez" mindset as much anymore.
Also, I think that Steve Jobs was a really great marketeer. Without him to convince people to love the new products.. I think people just don't feel as excited.

edirector said:
IT IS TIME WE STOP BUYING INTO APPLE'S ISSUES WITH SAMSUNG & ANDROID. It is the reason Adobe stopped supporting Flash on mobile which we all like. TouchWiz looks a lot better than stock Android with the black app drawer. TW is just adds a transparent affect among other things plus the multitasking. Somebody should be trying to make stock Android and IOS look more polished liked TouchWiz.
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What the hell are you talking about?! I didn't see the OP mention anything about Apple or Samsung. This is a thread about making Touchwiz look more like AOSP. I don't mean to be rude, but if you aren't interested you don't have to read the thread.
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I agree with OP I hate the blue divider on the nav bar, In fact, the nav bar seems to cluttered imo. Having the nav bar time out to the dots on every app would be a good work a round. If its a matter of theming im sure it can be done quite easily.

Wow! I thought this thread went completely ignored and got no replies.
So sorry guys, I had very little success and got discouraged.
I didn't know there was actually activity here.
I'm down for giving it another try though. (lol, I replied 5 months later)
@ckavvouras That looks awesome! Can you share how you did that please? Or share your systemui.apk?
@edirector What the deuce are you talking about?
@relldroid Yeah I think the faded 3 dots look so clean! But I just couldn't find the image in the roms I searched in.

Also this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2186102
But for the 10.1 of course