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[Q] Suggestions for the lack of SD/Removeable battery

First of all, for the most part, after about a month of owning the one x, these haven't been much of an issue for me. With that being said, I want to keep it that way so I am wondering how people are handling a couple of things:
First, because of the good battery life, when I go to bed, my battery is usually sitting around 40-50% left. That puts me in a bit of a dilema because if I don't stick it on charge, I will be hurting the next day. I'm also hesitant on putting it on charge because I've always heard that you should let the battery drain a bit more than that and that charging it at that level over and over isn't good. So, what do I do? Before, I'd just not charge it and swap batteries with a fully charged one and then rinse/repeat.
Second, with 10GB of space available, I'm sitting at around 5 GB free. The two main things I have that are eating up some space are nandroid backups (at 1 GB a pop) and my titanium backups (around 500MB). Add to those my couple of ROMS (around 300-500MB each), some themes & other misc mods, not to mention a handful of videos... well, things are beginning to add up quickly. I'm trying to come up with some sort of automatic/hand-off/set it and forgetit type of setup to handle this. I'm starting to try out a product called folder sync to move files up to dropbox at some scheduled time. I'm just struggling with how best to set things up. For example, a really need the last nan backup sitting locally. I also think my titanium backups (set to only 1 in history btw) would be best sitting locally. My current rom .zip (I dunno), if I need to reflash, then locally would make sense. Some videos could go up to dropbox, some that I use more frequent should be local cause I don't want to get that dreaded throttling on my unlimited (cough cough) data plan. I do own tasker (although I'm no expert and mainly use it for syncing accounts). Foldersync has scheduling (and also a tasker plugin).
So basically, I'm just looking to find out what other people are doing. For the non flashing/modding people, maybe nothing, but for folks like me, I would have to believe you are running into some of the same issues I am.
Thanks (sorry for the long drawn out post)

First point: i charge every night no matter what and plug in whenever there's a charger available, e.g., at home, work in the car. not concerned about battery conditioning, etc. if the battery presents a problem i'll get another device.
Second point: i keep one nandroid, current recovery and my current ROM on my device. this will get me up and running in emergencies if needed. themes and other tweaks can be added later so i don't keep them locally. i can reload apps via Play Store if needed. i keep prior nandroids, TI Backups, system/app and data/app folder backups and anything else on Dropbox. i fluctuate between 2-5 GB of available space on my device depending on how much music i want to keep locally. just keepin it simple
hope this feedback helps...

Yes, except the getting another device part. Not sure if I'd want that expense after plopping 550 for this.
I had a 32gb card in my inspire and usually used about 20gb. Just gonna have to change some habits i guess.
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Do your backups automatically upload to Dropbox? If so, how?
If not, ignore this haha.

kravguy said:
Yes, except the getting another device part. Not sure if I'd want that expense after plopping 550 for this. .... [snippped]
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wanted to clarify my statement. i meant that if i had battery issues, i'd get a replacement HOX. i'm in 100% agreement with you that i wouldn't pay $$$ for another device.
rohan32 said:
Do your backups automatically upload to Dropbox? If so, how?
If not, ignore this haha.
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no, i usually backup and copy to Dropbox when i'm connected to a laptop, e.g., at home or work.

rohan32 said:
Do your backups automatically upload to Dropbox? If so, how?
If not, ignore this haha.
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Im debating how I want to do this. Tb has a built in feature for that but it has flaws like if I uninstall an app and delete its backup, it still sets up on dropbox kinda things. Foldersync might be a good solution cause it can do syncing (both ways if desired). Another nice feature is it can delete the local files after uploading to dropbox. It also works with other cloud services. Sorry for plugging the app, but although I haven't really set it all up yet, I went ahead and purchased the full version cause it seems to have everything needed to handle what I believe should be part of any new smartphone that doesn't have a sd card.
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hopefully when S-off comes our way and we gain access to the kernal, USB host will be the way to go. I have a short right angle USB host cable and a micro USB drive so I can store everything in my pocket if need be and just save any apps on the phone its self.
Kill 2 birds with 1 stone, Have unlimited space on the fly, and save on Data not having to stream everything OTA

kravguy said:
I'm also hesitant on putting it on charge because I've always heard that you should let the battery drain a bit more than that and that charging it at that level over and over isn't good.
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That is a myth, Lithium Ion batteries do not need to be run down all the way. Feel free to charge it whenever you want.

JBM12G said:
That is a myth, Lithium Ion batteries do not need to be run down all the way. Feel free to charge it whenever you want.
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In fact, running down all the way is bad for lithium ion batteries. The reason why some people recommend doing that is to calibrate the charge level circuit on the battery. That said, don't do it too often!
Lithium ion batteries like to be charged often. Charge as often as you can. Keep it topped up.

battery life is TERRIBLE on AOKP!

I was on GB and had amazing battery life!
Just flashed AOKP milestone 6 and I can can't watch
The battery drain.
I've read forums and not much help.
I DL better battery but don't really know how to use.
I tried formatting battery stats.
Any solutions?

I am having the same issue. I am going yo try cMIUI. what are you getting for battery life?
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Are y'all sure it's not just because you're doing lots of stuff with your phone right now, having just flashed a new ROM?
If it's an extreme amount of battery drain, it might be some leftovers from whatever you had last. You could try a factory reset and then see how stock AOKP handles battery drain.
I know I don't get battery life as good as I did with Octane, but a big part of that is because I've been flashing the new AOKP builds every couple of days, so things don't get a chance to settle down. (Granted, battery life still isn't as good as when I just flashed Octane.)

There is tons of things regarding this very issue in the AOKP q & a thread. Please use the search this thread button in that thread. Ive typed a response atleast four times today. And atleast four yesterday and more the day before and the day before that. NOt trying to be a ****, but Im tired of typing and responding. If you cant be bothered to read the thread or search I cant be bothered to respond anymore.

Not sure for sure.
But I get 5-6 hours on full charge with medium use(text. Instagram. Web.)
How can I get exact info?

Read the AOKP Q&A, yes, the whole thing
Read the OP's instructions on the AOKP dev thread
Read the thread on Bettter Battery Stats
Listen to what people say about battery use
Think about what you have done and what to try next
Do
Rinse
Repeat
Ask yourself "Why am I flashing ICS at all?" -- ICS in the SGS4G is still very much in development.

I don't think you realize how unreasonable it is to ask someone to read that entire Q&A. I've followed the thread from its beginning, and there's no real solution to the battery issue being described here. You'd only be wasting everyone's time who took your advice. I've also read all of OP's instructions in the AOKP dev thread, and have even tried the gremlin remover prior to flashing AOKP. This does not solve the battery issue. You're seeming to imply that the battery issue is the user's fault, and I think that's not even remotely close to the truth. I've done multiple flashes, each time trying something different, to see if I did anything to cause the horrible battery in AOKP, and they all concluded the same way. With that said, we need to actually try to fix this, instead of sending people in circles and pretending to fix it.

First of I dont have battery issues at all with AOKP I am a User a very grateful user (thx 2 our devs). Just factory reset, after that wipe cache, system, everything except your sd card of course) and the flash your rom. Its really a matter of re-assuring everything is wiped. Also leave your phone alone for awhile I left mine around 2 hrs alone, while the rom settles.

jeffsf said:
Read the AOKP Q&A, yes, the whole thing
Read the OP's instructions on the AOKP dev thread
Read the thread on Bettter Battery Stats
Listen to what people say about battery use
Think about what you have done and what to try next
Do
Rinse
Repeat
Ask yourself "Why am I flashing ICS at all?" -- ICS in the SGS4G is still very much in development.
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Go to the Gremlin Remover dev thread, and try steps 1-3. If you are STILL having exaggerated battery loss, try using gremlin remover it'self. If you still have problems, after making it back to your preferred rom, just put the phone down for a while.

adobrakic said:
You're seeming to imply that the battery issue is the user's fault, and I think that's not even remotely close to the truth. I've done multiple flashes, each time trying something different, to see if I did anything to cause the horrible battery in AOKP, and they all concluded the same way. With that said, we need to actually try to fix this, instead of sending people in circles and pretending to fix it.
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Some of us are getting good-very good battery life, and some of us are not - using the same exact ROM. I don't know what that tells you, but what it tells me is that it *is* likely to be a user issue.
People complain about battery life, but they hardly ever talk about the total time they are using it (including fiddling around with it), what programs they have used or have installed, and how they are restoring after they flash (i.e., if there is a chance they are bringing along bad stuff from a previous incarnation of the phone). More information about these things and - yes - doing tedious things like the process of elimination might be enlightening here.

adobrakic said:
I don't think you realize how unreasonable it is to ask someone to read that entire Q&A. I've followed the thread from its beginning, and there's no real solution to the battery issue being described here. You'd only be wasting everyone's time who took your advice. I've also read all of OP's instructions in the AOKP dev thread, and have even tried the gremlin remover prior to flashing AOKP. This does not solve the battery issue. You're seeming to imply that the battery issue is the user's fault, and I think that's not even remotely close to the truth. I've done multiple flashes, each time trying something different, to see if I did anything to cause the horrible battery in AOKP, and they all concluded the same way. With that said, we need to actually try to fix this, instead of sending people in circles and pretending to fix it.
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Ya know when I first came here I said something similar. But Ive kept up with these threads now and I know for a fact battery life issues have been discussed to a point that the devs are ready to pack up and leave. Nobody wants to read or even search. Instead the battery life issues are blamed on the shotty coding of the people building these roms. If you are getting bad battery life it is plain and simple a user error. Unless you can provide logs stating otherwise then just drop it try what is being suggested or go back to stock roms. Install all the apps you need to customize the phone like it is on the ics variants and then report back here. I garandamntee you will have ****ty battery life.
These custom roms have so much stuff added to them that is hard coded in for customization that its not going to have super battery life like a unbloated stock rom. But you cant expect it to. A good comparision was made earlier in another thread. Would you expect to get 8 hours out of a laptop battery?

I always tell people to make sure to completely drain the battery....all the way until it shuts off, because mine will sometimes stay at 1% for nearly 2 hours.
Seems like it doesn't know its own scale until you do that a few times.
Also never ever ever restart this phone while having it plugged in or turn it on while plugged in.
Let me give you the scenario, it will be charging let's say around 50% and then after restart while plugged in right around 75-80% and that little act took me a long time to recalibrate my battery and I'm not talking about deleting the battery stats, I don't delete battery stats anymore at all (read an article from Google saying its pointless)
All that said I'm a very heavy user, and I like a bright screen and I'm getting (what I would consider) good battery life. But I have a 3500mah so its never too bad for me
Hope this helps someone
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well me too experiencing super fast battery drain
i have flashed aokp milestone latest build by wiping factory reset.
also allowed to sit the phone for 1o mins
my wifi,bluetooth,gps remains off all the time, also screen brightness is at its lowest.
on moderate texting the phone wont last more then 4 hours
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I'm on aokp

I'm on AOKP, and my battery life is GREAT. There are plenty of steps and tips mentioned here to find out what your battery problem is.

I would like to see screen shots of the battery usage of people that have crappy battery.
From home hit menu>settings>scroll down a bit to battery.
Take two screenshots one of the initial screen, then touch the graph at the top and take one of that screen.
I keep hearing battery life is horrible I only get 4 hours, please fix this, hows battery life..blah blah blah battery. Yet nobody will drop usage stats, logs of a days use, offer anything but i use my phone moderately. I call bull**** on that, How many texts do you get/send in a day? How long are you on the phone making calls? Do you live in a poor service area? Give some info.
On a average day I get about 50 texts, might make a 20 minute call, use tapatalk a half dozen times, and use tweetcaster and flipboard a dozen times. I can get 12-15 hours out of a full charge. To me that is light to moderate use. I get crappy data where Im at right now so Im on wifi A LOT. When Im actually using t-mo data more I can get closer to 18 hours out of a charge
People if your having problems with battery life stop rebooting the phone a hundred times a day. Stop shutting off all the radios thinking it will help. use the dang phone like it was meant to be used. None of the code is optimized for people to shut radios off and turn the phone into a dumbphone. You are making it worse by shutting these things down and turning them back on. It takes power to properly shut off bt, wifi, data. Next time you do watch the radio will not just instantly shut down. It has to power off all the service that is using it and then power down. Otherwise you would be here *****ing about tons of force closes.

I get about 17hours on my phone and i have a stock battery. I use all the extras PROVIDED TO US BY THE DEV like turn off wifi/date off or to 2g while phone screen is off. Auto bright and all the extras.

blazen2000 said:
I get about 17hours on my phone and i have a stock battery. I use all the extras PROVIDED TO US BY THE DEV like turn off wifi/date off or to 2g while phone screen is off. Auto bright and all the extras.
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^ THIS
I usually get 14-17 hrs doing the same. No battery issues. If you leave data/wifi on all day and are constantly checking email, Twitter, and Facebook what do you expect? Battery is fine.

Shortbus-Driver said:
I'm on aokp
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How much time do you spend on "screen"?
My phone usually drains 10% each 5hours of sleeping (air plane mode). Is that normal? I can get around 3hours of web surfing,which is less than it was on SCOM (4hours).
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Close to a day of battery , I turn on data when I want. Poor service area, my only issue is it stays awake more, but all functions work
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Battery Drains After Crash

My phone has been acting really weird the last few day. I had [ROM][MTD]CyanogenMod 9.0.0-rc2 UNOFFICIAL by TeamAcid[R5][Jul-20-2012 installed on my phone. But it would crash all of the time. Afterwards when the phone rebooted the battery would go from 100% to 9%. If I dont boot the phone back up right after a crash and wait a little while. When I boot it up the battery will be around 40-45%. I used [Heimdall][One-Click] The T959V Heimdall One-Click Collection [05/20/2012] earlier today, Just to see if I continued to have the battery problem. I only had the phone crash once while on the stock rom, and the battery did drain about 50% but I also started having a problem where I would lose my data connection all together. Rebooting the phone brought it back, only to lose it again after around 30min to 1hr. It has not crashed for about 3hrs now and I have not lost my data connection either. Anyone have any ideas what might be going on here? I tried deleting the battery stats with the battery at 100% before going back to stock but that did not seem to help at all. I downloaded a batter calibrator from the market place and tried that as well. Used it when the battery was at 100%. None of this has worked. Now that im back on the stock rom its only crashed once, but the battery did still drain. Any ideas? I would really like to go back to CyanogenMod 9 but its not worth it if the phone continuously crashes and kills the battery. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Try Gremlins Remover.
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So you don't waste any more time, "battery calibration" is snake oil, lithium ion batteries don't need "conditioning" (and actually suffer from both high temperatures and deep discharge cycles), but the moon is made of cheese. Ok, at least the first two are true.
As you're having problems with one of the most stable and reliable GB ROMs for this phone, I suspect that you may have one or more of:
Bad battery
Bad user-land applications
Corrupt application data
Corrupt media data (for example, music on your microSD)
Bad phone
Bad luck
A "start over" approach with a complete clean-out either using the above-mentioned one-click, or doing the equivalent by hand (wiping all partitions, flashing stock, starting with a fresh microSD), then seeing how the phone/battery behaves without any apps would be the path I would take. If it passed that, I'd slowly start adding back apps, and only restoring data/preferences where you really need them.

Im doing the gremlin remover right now. I will let you guys know how to goes. Thanks for the advise, this has been driving me crazy.

Tried the gremlin remover last night and played with my phone today. Its still crashing and then when I boot it up back the battery is pretty much dead... I think i have a bad battery. Never had these problems with the phone before. Thanks for the help guys. I guess Ill get a new battery and see if that fixes the problem.

I have this EXACT same problem. I'm on AOKP and the battery with go from having a decent charge and die. Then if I take the batt out, hold the power button for 15 secs and let the phone sit with no batt for 10 minutes or so, the phone will go back to around 50% batt life. After gremlin remover and Bryan's one click back to stock multiple times, I've finally come to the conclusion that I need a new battery.

I ordered a new battery today. I will let you know how it goes.
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Mine does the same thing... doesn't really crash often.. once in a blue moon. But if I reboot. . I get that instant battery drain ...GR didn't fix it.... I just attribute it to ageing battery.
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So I looked I to this issue more. For anyone having this problem, remove the battery and place it on a hard flat surface to see if it has swollen any, if it has then the battery is defective. My battery actually rocks a little. I could actually tell it had swollen before I even put it on my desk.

That is only for seeing whether a cell has busted. It is normal wear and tear. That is kind of like how u lose battery life after hundreds of cycles because it is just how the current li-ion battery technologies work.
I would download the one click and also reflash boot loaders and repartition your device.
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Tried that, even with bootloaders. OP also stated they used gremlin remover as well. As we we're both having the exact same problem, I was giving him a better solution that wasn't the standard "reflash, repartition, etc."

I finally got my new battery in. And all is well now. Thanks everyone for the advice and help
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thats crazy swapping you battery worked. lol, mine does it too. not so much the crashing just a simple reboot and it will be drop down from 70% to 1%. This was doing the same thing with my phone before my charging port got busted. So i had to swap out the guts from my old galaxy s with broken screen. When i put the new internals in i started with bh's one click back to stock and flashed antonx kernal. Then flashed cm9 and it still does it. i will try a new battery as well.

My thought (AFTER being solved)
Well, I don't mean to come off as rude, but come on guys! I've had this problem for a while, and as soon as it happened I knew I needed a new battery. On top of my phone being somewhat "old", the fact we all play around with it so much, and do so many battery pulls most likely does NOT help the matter. At least I screw around with my phone and try out many ROMs...
But I'm glad I have confirmation that a battery swap will do the trick. It sucks that stores don't carry the t959v battery anymore... Guess I'll be ordering online tonight.

[Q] How to increase battery life?

hey im a noob here so im sorry if this has been asked before but right now i upgraded my phone to ics and the battery life is horrible and im too cheap to get a battery extender so is there anything i can do to improve it or am i just going to have to deal with it?

Get your phone to 100% battery and then just play whatever you like until it completely dies. Then, plug it in to charge and dont touch it until it gets back up to 100%. That is supposed to increase the battery lasting time by 20%. It only works once...so dont do it 5 times hoping for results. This is supposed to be done when you first get the phone, but if its never been you've never done it, its worth the shot.
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rygtuu said:
hey im a noob here so im sorry if this has been asked before but right now i upgraded my phone to ics and the battery life is horrible and im too cheap to get a battery extender so is there anything i can do to improve it or am i just going to have to deal with it?
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Let the ROM 'soak' in. It'll get better. You are probably busy messing with it figuring out all the features which is normal and makes the battery seem terrible. But overall it is pretty good.
And the post above is an old wives tale these days. It's funny to read people still recommending it.

lumin30 said:
Let the ROM 'soak' in. It'll get better. You are probably busy messing with it figuring out all the features which is normal and makes the battery seem terrible. But overall it is pretty good.
And the post above is an old wives tale these days. It's funny to read people still recommending it.
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Kinda, when you first flash with a factory reset, you don't have a battery stats file. This is another good reason to flash when your battery is 100% charged. When Senior Members here say "soak in", they are saying that the first boot all of the system apk (application packages) are cached to /cache. Doing too much while these apps are being cached screws up the statistics of the battery stats. If I really want good battery life, I totally wipe, and let the phone sit for 10-15 minutes. I leave usb plugged in till it's 100%, then pull the usb and use the phone until it totally dies.
By this time, the day is over and it needs to be charged anyways. I plug it into the charger before bed and let it charge up all the way with nothing running (no wifi, no bt, no background apps running).
After that charge, battery life seems soo much better. ymmv. it would be good to know if that works for you too.
Otherwise, everyone uses their phone differently, and some people install stupid apps that have intensive background services running that eat batteries, then complain about the rom sucking instead of introspecting about how they use their phone.

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Kinda, when you first flash with a factory reset, you don't have a battery stats file. This is another good reason to flash when your battery is 100% charged. When Senior Members here say "soak in", they are saying that the first boot all of the system apk (application packages) are cached to /cache. Doing too much while these apps are being cached screws up the statistics of the battery stats.
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Just to clarify - battery stats file have nothing to do with battery performance and the battery stat file "is reset every time you unplug from power with a relatively full charge (thus why the battery usage UI data resets at that point)." Google Engineer Dianne Hackborn

ahh ok thanks guys ill do what you guys said and see if it helps

you can also install one of the battery saver apps on the market, like juice defender or similar. They will typically help and some can control how often background services are allowed to collect data.

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you can also install one of the battery saver apps on the market, like juice defender or similar. They will typically help and some can control how often background services are allowed to collect data.
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These arent as helpful as they use to be. I have seen and challenged people to run with and without and the added battery life is either very minimal or actually worse with these apps.
Battery saver apps where created when android was very young and had bad management of the battery power. The way it works now it should lower the power to the radios low enough to save battery but not completely shut off the radios. Shutting them off will actually harm battery life because it takes so much more power to turn them on and off repeatedly then to let them idle.

no i think it was more designed for froyo and gb because if you try those battery savers in froyo or gb you can see it works and battery last long but if you test it in ics or jb (i have test juice defender with jb in the sgs3) and what i can see its that sometimes it lags (not always just when you like two or three apps open which for me in the sgs3 was weird) and data sometimes hangs i mean it doesn't load pages
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Download Gemini from the play store and manage the autorun for apps. That's what I do and it saves quite a bit of battery
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solrac1212 said:
no i think it was more designed for froyo and gb because if you try those battery savers in froyo or gb you can see it works and battery last long but if you test it in ics or jb (i have test juice defender with jb in the sgs3) and what i can see its that sometimes it lags (not always just when you like two or three apps open which for me in the sgs3 was weird) and data sometimes hangs i mean it doesn't load pages
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Ill agree with you on froyo but gingerbread towards the end was much better.
The biggest thing is people dont realize how much power is used to start and stop things. Letting them idle will use battery but not nearly as much if you start and stop many times a day. Now at night if you want to turn off those things then yeah go for it. But if you are a frequent phone checker then starting and stopping them everytime will chew through the battery.
A good example is this, its summertime go outside and look at your electric meter when the ac first turns on. It will spin reeal fast for a minute or so while the system gets everything going then it will slow down. This same thing applies to your phone and its radios. Each time you shut it off it has to go through a process so you dont get corrupted data. And when you turn it on it has to use a lot of battery to make sure things dont get messed up and get to the proper operating form.
So any app that shuts off the radios manually and such will end up costing you battery if you are a power user.

If you can follow the steps exactly as i wrote them, then install the team FAH-Q kernel found in the dev section...
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thomas.raines said:
If you can follow the steps exactly as i wrote them, then install the team FAH-Q kernel found in the dev section...
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I put FAH-Q kernal on AOKP and it seemed to help a bit. I was using systempanel and it said facebook was sucking cpu at night while the phone was resting... so i took off facebook for the moment to see if any other apps/processes could be causing a drain.
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I spend 15-20 min in the morning going through stuff on my phone. Then I will listen to music in the car on my way to work 35 min. My phone will be at 80% by the time i walk in to work. I check things during the work day once and a while and by 2pm I will be around 40%. leaving work I will have 35-30% .... ok i'll just quit now and say running 12hrs i will have about 15% left. I think I am an average phone user. not sure how much everyone else uses theirs.

justiz33 said:
I put FAH-Q kernal on AOKP and it seemed to help a bit. I was using systempanel and it said facebook was sucking cpu at night while the phone was resting... so i took off facebook for the moment to see if any other apps/processes could be causing a drain.
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I spend 15-20 min in the morning going through stuff on my phone. Then I will listen to music in the car on my way to work 35 min. My phone will be at 80% by the time i walk in to work. I check things during the work day once and a while and by 2pm I will be around 40%. leaving work I will have 35-30% .... ok i'll just quit now and say running 12hrs i will have about 15% left. I think I am an average phone user. not sure how much everyone else uses theirs.
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Music soaks up a lot of battery as well as display, data, and sync. You can try turning off sync and data when you don't need them. But it sounds like you are doing better. I am still concerned with what else you have running in the background though... however, 12-16 hours isn't bad at all...
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bhundven said:
.... If I really want good battery life, I totally wipe, and let the phone sit for 10-15 minutes. I leave usb plugged in till it's 100%, then pull the usb and use the phone until it totally dies.
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What do you mean by totally wipe? do you mean go into recovery to wipe data, cache, and davlik cache? then restore after the battery is fully charged?

HKSpeed said:
What do you mean by totally wipe? do you mean go into recovery to wipe data, cache, and davlik cache? then restore after the battery is fully charged?
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Yes, as well as /system/ and at least .android_secure on your microSD
I would recommend against fully discharging your battery as a matter of course. While this might have been useful in the days of NiCads, deep discharges and heat are the Kryptonite of LiIon batteries.

[SOLVED] [Q] Starting from scratch

I'm having issues of the phone rebooting by itself and consequently draining ~90% of the battery when it does so. I've tried flashing a bunch of different ROMS to see if I can stop it from happening, but to no avail. I'd like to go completely from scratch and hopefully I can get to a point where the phone works for an entire day without crashing. I've been using the HD2 instead of the SGS4G for a couple months now, so I'm a bit rusty, which is why I came here to ask for suggestions. This is what I was planning on doing:
- Flash one of these stock ROMs in order to get back to where I started.
- Format my SD card completely and let the phone convert it back to EXT4
- And then flash either Barebone or Valhalla
Do you guys think this would be sufficient enough to remove the problem that's causing these reboot & battery drains?

I would flash eollies kj6 with the blastoff v2 if your not planning on going to ics after because that's the latest gb kernel available and then flash Valhalla or barebones (then you might have to flash blastoff again can't remember right now but it should say in the op of each rom). And I'm pretty sure when you one click back to gb that will convert back ext4 so I would format SD card and reload it before you one click back. Good luck friend
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Thanks for your input! Do you think the gremlin remover is necessary, or is it overkill in the context of what I'm doing?

If you want quick and easy use my one click the other two listed is just kernels.
As for getting battery life on ICS flavored roms, well take the time using BBS and STT to figure out whats killing your battery. As long as Im not jumping between wifi and mobile data I can go around 15 hours on a battery. And I havent spent tons of time to figure out why Im not getting more battery life. But others like jeffsf has. And with that I can honestly say if your not getting battery life comparable to GB roms its YOUR fault not the rom. Most ICS roms have stuff built in that you have to use a app for. Therefore a GB rom with nothing installed will get better battery life. But once you put your stuff on and start running the battery life is not being compared properly. The reason for this is most people will keep a app just because they are use to it and not even know the ICS rom has it built in.

I personally think most of our batteries - if still using the one that came with the phone - are starting to run their course. New batteries are inexpensive on Amazon.

I think you guys are misunderstanding my issue. My problem isn't the battery draining quickly over a certain amount of time due to regular use. My problem is that once my phone crashes and reboots, the battery will literally go from whatever percentage I was at, all the way down to below 10%. I can be at 90% battery, and if my phone crashes, it will be on low battery once it powers back up. I'm not sure what's causing the crashes, which is why I'm just trying to start at step 1 and work my way from there.
To test if it was the battery simply draining out very quickly, I turned brightness to 100% and turned WiFi & GPS on, and disallowed the screen from turning off. The battery drained normally.

That happens to me... It gets fixed by shutting down and taking out the battery for 30 seconds.

Sounds like a bad battery

i had the same issue and also would get diff battery levels when booting with or without charger plugged in...i used a toool from market to calibrate battery. i cant remember exact app but will post back if i find it.
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it was "Battery Calibration"
by NéMa
and i had to do it a couple of times to get it to set in.

Like thecontroller stated its a bug and you should be able to correct it by pulling the battery out and waiting a few extra seconds. If it does it still hold the power button down for a little while with the battery out.
Do this next time you have a crash on ics. Time how long it takes for the phone to restart. It is seems abnormally long you could have some scripts that are running on boot that is causing issues.
Calibrating the battery can be done manually. All you have to do is delete the batterystat.bin file. That is all those apps do. And really If you fully charge your battery it should be deleting itself.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1445698
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Originally Posted by kalel29 So,all the battery calibration tutorials are useless???????
In a nutshell, yes. You are only putting extra stress on your battery by "tricking" it according to various calibration guides. Batterystats.bin file is generated for a reason. Batterystats.bin is in /data partition, so after you install a new ROM that wipes your previous data, it gets wiped too. So, "Wipe battery stats after installing a new ROM", which is a cliche among those guides, is pointless. Last but not least, batterystats file is simply a logging tool that monitors your battery behavior. The "stats" part is pretty self-explanatory. The actual Power Manager lies in kernel, not in /data partition which accessible to anyone.

SBD all that info is true. But if you use the aroma installer it will backup and restore the data partition. Not sure if it will restore the batterystat.bin file or not. That is why I posted what I did. I do not believe in calibrating batteries as much as making sure they file is not storing data that is out of date.

As you guys mentioned earlier ...hard resets are the best ....I find our batteries do go bad. And when they do....they do all kinds of odd things to the device

m4127440 said:
i had the same issue and also would get diff battery levels when booting with or without charger plugged in...i used a toool from market to calibrate battery. i cant remember exact app but will post back if i find it.
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it was "Battery Calibration"
by NéMa
and i had to do it a couple of times to get it to set in.
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Battery calibrations are garbage. They do nothing. The file that any battery calibration app deletes is deleted by Android anytime you do a full charge anyway.
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lumin30 said:
I personally think most of our batteries - if still using the one that came with the phone - are starting to run their course. New batteries are inexpensive on Amazon.
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Not to mention the screen. Was in Costco last week, saw the old T959V on display and held mine up to it. Screen is faded bad I don't know if any of you else have noticed that lol
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Okay, so I formatted my SD card, and flashed Eollie's KJ6 using Heimdall. After that, I flashed Raver's Valhalla Black.
Initially, I didn't install anything extra other than updating gmail and superuser. Everything worked fine, apart from one random reboot. Once it booted back up, everything was normal. Today, I installed around 5 apps. I was using one of those apps (Reddit Is Fun), and while using it, the phone crashed. Once my phone booted back up this time, everything force closed, and log provider force closed over and over. I had someone text me, and right after they did my phone just crashed. I tried fixing permissions, but that didn't do anything.
Any suggestions?
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I just factory reset and tried reflashing Valhalla Black, but everything just force closes again even on a fresh install.

Boy I don't know what the hell you're doing but you are doing something very wrong.
Flash back to stock (complete stock). http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1358498
Then flash AntonX http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19601810&postcount=2
Once you do that, flash a ROM.

I just went through the same issue. This was going on rarely for several weeks then got more frequent. I have a couple of extra batteries that T-Mobile sent me when I first got the phone....swapped in one and its been 10 days without a single issue. Before posting here tonight I put my old battery back in and guess what? Symptoms came back within 30 minutes....so....
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Then there's your answer, you need a new battery my friend

Just so weird, I don't see how a battery can affect the OS in that way haha. I've ordered a new battery anyway, they're only like $5 on Amazon, but I'm gonna try your steps anyway, controller. Thanks a lot guys.