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Never buy anything from http://www.tigaduacellular.com check this out!

The wiki list of prices showed this shop to be the cheapest one! http://www.tigaduacellular.com
I tried to order from them, please see what happened! DO NOT BUY ANYTHING FROM THEM! PLEASE!
Here we go, the e-mail conversation with their sales department:
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Please Confirm Your Tiga Dua Cellular: Order #
to me
Hello XXX,
Thank you for your order. We have the phone you order in stock.
We have the EU and Asia version available.
We will dispatch your order after we have verified your payment. Please
confirm if you want to cancel this order or want to continue this order.
So we can provide you with our payment information.
If you have any questions regarding your order, don't be hesitate to contact
us.
Best Regards,
Mr. XXX
http://www.tigaduacellular.com
Email: [email protected]
Phone:
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Me to the shop
Hello,
Thanks for your extremely fast reply! I would like to purchase the EU version of the phone. So please continue with the Touch Pro EU version order.
Sincerely Yours,
XXX
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Me to the shop again
Hi,
I'm wondering if you have noted my message that i would like to continue with the purchase of the Touch Pro EU version as noted below. Now I find myself missing the payment information, which I am waiting from you to send me. The first contact from you was extremely fasy, which I'm thankful for, but approximately how long it can take to tell me how to pay?
The thing that you don't have option to pay via Credit card is already quite annoying, but even more annoying is to wait for the bank transfer payment information. Nothing personal, I'm just used to that shops would be more eager to get the money from the customers.
Sincerely yours,
XXX
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to me
Actually, we have send the payment information to you, the day you reply the
email.
We don't know if you already received it or not.
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Me to the shop
Hello,
Alright, I see! So the payment information is not sent via e-mail but by post. I am honestly sorry for my misunderstanding. I was assuming to get it to my e-mail. Thanks for the info. I'll be looking forward getting that information. Again sorry for my bad behaviour. all the best!
Regards,
XXX
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to me
Of course we have sent the information via e-mail.
Well I guess you're not serious buyer anyway.
Hope you will get your "FREE PHONE" with other website.
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Me to the shop
Hi,
I would really like to buy the phone, but have not received any confirmation? I double checked my spam folder also, nothing in there! I am really serious, as soon as you can provide me with the payment information i would like to purchase the phone.
Because i tried to be the nicest possible to you, i will take all the e-mails, collect a nice package of them and get in contact with your superior. This is not customer service.
You will hear from me, Mr. XXX. Too bad that you werent able to do your job. I will make sure no one will ever buy from your shop again if this harm done by you is not corrected.
Think twice before you fool around like that, WHAT MAKES YOU THINK I WASNT A SERIOUS BUYER?
Sincerely,
XXX
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Me to the shop
PS. this information, and all the emails we have been sending to each other will soon be found from all the biggest mobile phone forums, where your customers are also coming.
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to me
Oh yes.
And you're just a customers who don't pay but want mobile phones.
Or maybe you're just another Nigerian buyer.
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Me to the shop
Excuse me!
I was ASKING YOU to send me the PAYMENT INFORMATION! BECAUSE YOU FAILED TO DO SO IN THE FIRST PLACE!
All this will be reported to your superior. Thanks.
Regards,
XXX

DAMN!!!!! what the hell....
Unbelievable!!!!
Thnx 4 sharing dude!

I was gona buy from them but when a seen they only do "Bank To Bank Transfers" a shat out of it. Don't see why any site wouldn't do paypal.

adamdon89 said:
I was gona buy from them but when a seen they only do "Bank To Bank Transfers" a shat out of it. Don't see why any site wouldn't do paypal.
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I'm glad i never got those payment instructions. who knows where my money could be right now!
And also remember, when ordering from them, you will probably have to pay the toll and VAT at your home country, so it really isn't even that cheap.

OMG
What a clueless webshop contact.
I think you should inform the owner of the shop so you can get this guy fired!
thanks for sharing

Amazing.......
You should copy the web-link from here and send them an email with the details of this post..... not good at all? and "who" pays "bank to bank" only these days - very strange indeed?
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WizzarD-me said:
What a clueless webshop contact.
I think you should inform the owner of the shop so you can get this guy fired!
thanks for sharing
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I thought to do so, but after doing whois pings on the domain, found out that the website is registered to a person with a same surname than the person answering my e-mail. Family biz.. They can go to hell with their stupid shop, just ordered from expansys.

Sounds very dodgie.... Thanks for sharing....
I bought from highstreet "Kamla" in London on Tottenham Court Road... UK version for £499.
A bit more expensive but from my past experience with HTC P3600 which was quite unstable initially, I thought it's better to buy from a shop where I can go back to if anything goes wrong.

I tell you...that is nuts. I had an issue with the first Touch Pro I ordered. Thank goodness I did it on E-Bay. Paypal refunded my money after my dispute, found another seller, and bought two of them with next day air delivery. Though I had one seller try to mess around with me, money was safe, and still had my Touch Pro within a week of the UK's launch.
Good luck with your next seller.

if it wasn't blindingly obvious to you already:
DON'T PAY BY BANK TRANSFER OR WESTERN UNION.
A merchant who doesn't take cards is generally always a scammer; bank transfers/WU are irreversible, this is precisely why they're required by scammers.
If you want to buy a device, buy it on a card; the price is cheaper than average for a good reason, use your noodle.

Cell Accessories - Discounts For XDA-Members

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Over the past few years, Myself , as well as many of the employees here at Trinity have become huge fans of XDA, and have really grown to love our HTC devices. For that reason, I have decided to expand, and open an online cellular accessory store.
www.AllThingsCell.Com will be offering discounts and promotions for every single xda member, from junior to senior status, moderator to noob, you will all get discounts when shopping at our store.
Being fellow HTC enthusiasts, we know that shopping for cases, and accessories , can sometimes be a pain. Dealing with the large coroprate companies, and customer service being almost impossible to even reach.
However, the customer service, the prices, and the serivce period at All Things Cell is unlike any other company you have dealt with.
So if you are in the need of a new case, or looking for that new rapid charger, check us out at www.AllThingsCell.com.
Simply enter this code: xdadev
When checking out , and you will receive a discount on your purchase. The discount will be no less than 25% all the way up to 50%, and it works for every item, from every member, every day.
I know that many of you live outside the USA as well, and we do offer shipping to anywhere in the world, with hugh shipping discounts for xda members. If you live outside the US, and would like to place an order, you can simply do so online, or you can call our customer service, and we'll set you up with shipping charges that only xda members can get.
Thanks for you time, and I hope you enjoy guys. It's about time that your not only offered this great forum, but a great place to get your accessories as well, and what better way to do so than thru one of your own.

Wow, this is a great news! Too bad can't find anything for HTC BlueAngel..

Thanks for this TweakMan!
Good deals indeed.
Hope in the future more devices accesories become available (Uni)

Thanks Tweakman Will give the ol' site a spin Good luck with your store!

Thread is closed as xda-dev does not allow commercial messages. OP will be contacted.
Best regards,
Flar

Expansys - ignoring me, now going the legal route

Here is my story:
http://www.expansys.com/ft.aspx?k=120187
I'm going to send them an LBA tomorrow morning and go the legal route. Disgusting. Totaly ignored and swept under the carpet.
Shame really, as its probably a hardware defect and they could replace the phone and I would be happy.
Use them at your own risk.

Shame to hear this...
Wish you the best in all the process

I have always avoided them...Hope it works out for you.

Wow. That was a pretty piss-poor response from the Expansys employee. I've had trouble with Expansys before but was going to buy through them again (the Touch Pro 2). I'm going to take my money elsewhere though now, pay a bit more, but at least get to deal with someone who doesn't have an attitude.

Jadel said:
Wow. That was a pretty piss-poor response from the Expansys employee. I've had trouble with Expansys before but was going to buy through them again (the Touch Pro 2). I'm going to take my money elsewhere though now, pay a bit more, but at least get to deal with someone who doesn't have an attitude.
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Indeed, very shocking and something I would never tolerate from a member of my teams or company. Here is my response, just in case they delete it:
"Thank you Yoni and Anita. For the record, I have spoken to your sales team, 3 times over the course of the week on the phone and 3 times via email - maybe now you can understand why I am so frustrated? I had the RMA form emailed to me and fully filled out by myself as early as Wednesday however, I was advised that I needed to wait for a response to this Forum post BEFORE an RMA number would be authorised - hence the 2 phone calls and 3 emails to chase this up. I question why its taken a week for this and also why i STILL have not received the RMA number?
BTW, for a period yesterday your main customer services number rang four times and then went dead - i tried this three tmes, with the same result.
Pete, your response is unprofessional and unwarranted. Volunteer, part time, full time or community service, when you respond with that red banner you are representing Expansys and all its employees. If you wish to be rude to a business customer who is clearly frustrated and has been let down by the support process you should first; ensure you are in full receipt of the facts, two; remember you are representing THE company and three be curteous - no matter how rude the customer is. A well trained customer services representative should never be sarcastic, pedantic or patronising. If I was an employee of Expansys who get there monthly rent paid by people like me (and my company) and I had read that response I would not be a happy on how you have spoken to a potential sales lead for many thousands over the next few months.
This clearly demonstrates why using untrained volunteers to help on a support forums is a very bad idea.
edit:
BTW, this "After 10 days products covered under warranty should be returned to the manufacturer for repair or replacement" is in clear breach of the Sales of Goods act."

FINALY got an RMA number now my business account manager is back at work. Can't believe its been such a fiasco.

Good to hear, you got rma number.

Stunning, truley stunning. I have spoken to a few of you over the phone now, each one promising action and nothing. I guess I have no choice but to go the legal route now.
A letter before action will be in the recored post tomorrow afternoon for selling a product which is not fit for purpose under the Sales of Goods Act.

AttorneyCompany said:
Stunning, truley stunning. I have spoken to a few of you over the phone now, each one promising action and nothing. I guess I have no choice but to go the legal route now.
A letter before action will be in the recored post tomorrow afternoon for selling a product which is not fit for purpose under the Sales of Goods Act.
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Attorney? FAIL. UK. Your obviously not very good are you as you would know that you dont have "Sales of goods act" in the US. Your not a good advert.
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Btw, to anyone else reading this thats not a wana-be-lawyer company. I have now spoken with Expansys worldwide MD and I have a brand new unit in the post. The senior management team have now gone some way to restoring my confidence in Expansys.

Monty Burns said:
This clearly demonstrates why using untrained volunteers to help on a support forums is a very bad idea.
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It certainly clearly demonstrates why using the wrong mode of support for a device is a bad idea. As the guy on the forum told you, there was an RMA form on the site. Personally, I would have called for an RMA initially and I would have been calling customer services and not sales as you state you did. Before getting so wound up about it, why don't you take a step back and look at it from a logical point of view? How would a public forum be able to discuss individual faults? For anything that is specific to you such as a return, It's always going to be better to contact the company direct with a phone call or an email, a forum just isn't the place for that kind of thing and to be fair to the guy that snapped at you, you were taking a quite abrasive tone. Maybe you didn't intend it that way, but it certainly came out that way in text.

Ok .... first off why are you getting wound up unless you are PeteGraham?
second, I did phone sales and emailed "enliven". I was told to post on the TECHNICAL SUPPORT forums for them to confirm it was an issue.... note, its a TECHNICAL SUPPORT forum.... thats why i posted my "indivivual fault". I was told that until they said it was an RMA (by Yoni) then I could not return it, does that make it clear?
For your information the head of corporate sales has said to me, and these are quotes, "we dropped the ball on this" and "we made an utter mess of it" and "Roger (the MD) will be performing a complete review of the sales and support process" based on my email conversation and the evidence presented to him.
The sales line who messed up by telling me I needed to post on the forums, the guy on the forums (whether he likes it or not, DOES represent Exanpsys as he comes across in RED) and acted unprofessionaly and insultingly without first knowing ALL the facts.
Get wound up all you like (not sure why? You weren't involed in the drama) but Expansys have now appologised to me and as soon as the MD/Head of Corporate Sales were involved, very quickly replaced the unit - no questions asked. They have now gone a very long way to restoring my faith in them.
Oh and why did I phone the sales line?
http://www.expansys.com/customerservice.aspx#returnfaulty
If your goods arrive faulty or develop a fault within the first 10 days, you can return them to eXpansys for repair or replacement.
Please contact the sales team on +44 (0)161 868 0868 or download this RMA form (click here) and follow the instructions to authorise the return of goods
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And btw, the person on the sales line also emailed me the RMA form at the same time but again told me to post first for an RMA number.
I've also informed them that the "If your goods arrive faulty or develop a fault within the first 10 days, you can return them to eXpansys for repair or replacement" is in breach of the Sales Of Goods Act here in the UK and they are breaking the law - note, this instruction is applied to both consumers and corporate customers.
So, like the guy on the Expansys forums, maybe you should be in full receipt of the facts before posting (oh.... and read the Expansys FAQ for a start!)

Sellerbar

Anyone have experience using cellarbar.com website? Reason I ask is because they are offering Galaxy Note 10.1 tablets for 237 dollars brand new.
If it's legit is one heck of a price,
Part of me thinks If it looks too good to be true... but part of me hopes it's the real deal.
Google did not bring up many hits indicating this maybe a scam website so I just don't know.

I'm not sure!
I have no experience with this website, but it seems fishy. If anyone has ever tried it... they should post here!
Edit: They do not accept paypal, only moneygram and western union. seems like this is one to stay away from. I'll try the number/email sometime to see what kind of response I get.
Edit 2: This is the email response I got. (Links removed for posting purposes)
Dear friend :
Thanks for your email.
We are legal company .we do business for three years . We buy goods directly from the producing compaany,and we have set up good cooperation relationship,thus all of our goods are at a very low price.we have customers all over the world. we ship our items to buyers everyday . We do business by honesty , you can check our shipping information by click the " send goods " in our web. After your items be sent , you will get your tracking number at the same day once your payment is confirmed . Then you can track your shipping information in shipping agency website and get your goods in 4 -6 days .
If you have any questions on the details. you can contact us by email or " online chat".
I am looking forward to our cooperation for long time.
Many thanks .
Website :
Msn :
Email:
Tel: 0086-010-56028115

A Web of Trust user says that they sell knock-offs.
"This is a Chinese counterfeit site that sells cheap ripoffs and junk. Do not trust them! "
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Experience and comments on club1941

Obviously many people have serious suspicions if this website is legit or it is just a scam, so i decided to start this thread where everyone can share his experience with this seller.

Nice!
Hopefully this site is legit and everyone can get their beloved phones on their hands...
Maybe the buyers can post something like this:
Purchase date:
Order number:
Tracking number: yes/no (no need to post the real tracking number)
Shipment status:

Purchase date:Friday 27 February, 2015
Order number:????
Tracking number: yes
Shipment status:27-02-2015 Information Received (This is not an acknowledgment of the physical receipt of the stated Registered Article)
02-03-2015 Despatched to overseas (Country code: IE)

Will add a bit more here later, watch this space
Did a bit of googling last night and found these webpages that appear to have been copied, the focalprice and everbuying pages are slow to open this morning for some reason, unless its my pc
warranty and return club http://www.club1941.com/-ezp-25.html
warranty and return Everbuying http://www.everbuying.net/m-article-id-16.html
Wholesale club http://www.club1941.com/-ezp-22.html
wholesale Focalprice http://dynamic.focalprice.com/helpinfo?currentCategoryID=31
Terms of use club club http://www.club1941.com/-ezp-21.html
Terms of use Focalprice http://dynamic.focalprice.com/helpinfo?currentCategoryID=12
RMA request club http://www.club1941.com/-ezp-18.html
Return Policy Focalprice http://dynamic.focalprice.com/helpinfo?currentCategoryID=11
About us club http://www.club1941.com/about-us-ezp-8.html
About us Everbuying http://www.everbuying.net/m-article-id-11.html
Legal window club http://www.club1941.com/-ezp-19.html
Legal window Focalprice http://dynamic.focalprice.com/helpinfo?currentCategoryID=45
General webpage construction from here?? I'm no webmaster so not sure how thats done http://www.new-supplier.com/
Re the above apparently the seller has apologized on facebook for copying some webpages so I guess thats ok then, if you say sorry then your not guilty of copyright infringement, But tell me this if they are genuine, why, after spending enormous amounts on their stock over 600 items, all apparently in stock, yet they skimp on their website and pinch other sites copyright material?
How have they come by all this stock?? the bigger established sites seem to have problems getting stocks of the Jiayu S3 3Gb version, but apparently they still hve stocks and still sending them out, and at an amazing price too, and by the way its not just this forum involved theres a couple more HERE and Here from Russia and Poland and I'm sure their are many more around the world where forum users have ordered from this site, and do you know why?? because if you google 'club1941 review' see which result comes at the top of the pile.
XDA is probably the most well known site of its kind in the world it is trusted and has an excellent reputation, and I will wager that many people have seen that review and taken it as gospel, I don't doubt the reviewer's honesty and the review of the phone seems unbiased and detailed, however the glowing review he gives of the website, without any knowledge of their history and integrity I believed has caused many to order from this site, how many of you ordered from club1941 before you saw that members posts on here? and that reviewer has admitted he received payment for that review in the form of a refund of his payment for the Jiayu S3 3 gb that he purchased from clu1941.
I realise that I'm probably p**sing into the wind and most of you will just wait and see what comes in the post, and more will probably order, tempted by the unrealistic prices, as I was.
And I wouldnt be at all surprised if the first few packages to arrive are genuine, that's not unheard of.
I'm not an expert on paypal and their ways, so if you have any queries paypal related please ring them up and ask advice if you go to the contact page in your paypal account there is a free phone number there, that's in the uk anyway.
Some of you probably think I have a chip on my shoulder regarding this site, and you're probably right, I dont like people who try to steal from me, or anybody else, and I'm old enough and ugly enough not to care what people think.
Why have I only put negative stuff here?? because I cant find anything positive, prove me wrong show me something positive about this site that will give me confidence in it
Purchase 26th Feb
Order no 2339
Tracking no RF319086806SG
dispute opened 27th full refund received immediately
Shipment Status 2nd March Despatched to overseas (Country code: GB)

oscarblue48 said:
Will add a bit more here later, watch this space
Purchase 26th Feb
Order no 2339
Tracking no RF319086806SG
dispute opened 27th full refund received immediately
Shipment Status 2nd March Despatched to overseas (Country code: GB)
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Despatched , but full refund? More information, please!

My package sent via nl post just got its status updated to "the item is pre-advised" which means something is flying from China to Netherlands

Yeah. Something is flying for sure an that something may be many,many things.

Seems like they do ship the items.
Judging from the tracking number most likely it's from Singapore.

ivivdim said:
Despatched , but full refund? More information, please!
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He opened a dispute because he felt it was dodgy, even after he got a tracking number

If it isn't a scam, why would the seller accepted dispute immidiatelly without canceling the shippment?
They are so rich that they give Jiayu S3 3GB for free?

TheCityAndTheStars said:
Yeah. Something is flying for sure an that something may be many,many things.
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That reminds me to this:
The guy ordered 3 umi zeros and this was what came in the mail.
That immediate refund although item has been dispatched is really suspicious

oscarblue48 said:
Will add a bit more here later, watch this space
Purchase 26th Feb
Order no 2339
Tracking no RF319086806SG
dispute opened 27th full refund received immediately
Shipment Status 2nd March Despatched to overseas (Country code: GB)
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What happens if/when you receive phone? Should we all start disputes once dispatched?

decayed.cell said:
He opened a dispute because he felt it was dodgy, even after he got a tracking number
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Making refund when there is clear proof that something is already sent sounds to me like pure confession of a scam by the seller?

TheCityAndTheStars said:
If it isn't a scam, why would the seller accepted dispute immidiatelly without canceling the shippment?
They are so rich that they give Jiayu S3 3GB for free?
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Why would the buyer open a dispute after he received a tracking number if the buyer isn't trying to scam the shop?
Have you ever tried going through the Paypal dispute process as a seller? It's a long and painfully drawn out process. The whole thing is completely biased towards buyers. If it was a proper and fair system theres no way oscarblue48 should have been able to open up a dispute after the tracking number was provided. This gives the seller a chance to actually send the goods, and the buyer to assess the goods before any action is taking.
Obviously these guys are new so maybe the shipping guys didn't notify the ordering guys. Hopefully they pick up the error soon enough and oscarblue48 doesn't end up scamming the shop.

elkosith said:
That reminds me to this:
The guy ordered 3 umi zeros and this was what came in the mail.
That immediate refund although item has been dispatched is really suspicious
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3 Umi Zero and they sent him that thing? Oh God that's so sad [emoji27]

Venael said:
My package sent via nl post just got its status updated to "the item is pre-advised" which means something is flying from China to Netherlands
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can you please tell us the order date, sending date

decayed.cell said:
Why would the buyer open a dispute after he received a tracking number if the buyer isn't trying to scam the shop?
Have you ever tried going through the Paypal dispute process as a seller? It's a long and painfully drawn out process. The whole thing is completely biased towards buyers. If it was a proper and fair system theres no way oscarblue48 should have been able to open up a dispute after the tracking number was provided. This gives the seller a chance to actually send the goods, and the buyer to assess the goods before any action is taking.
Obviously these guys are new so maybe the shipping guys didn't notify the ordering guys. Hopefully they pick up the error soon enough and oscarblue48 doesn't end up scamming the shop.
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Seller had number of days to reply his dispute..they didn't do it, they didn't wait, they refunded immidiatelly as they do not care about the "picture" of Jiayu coming @oscarblue48 way. Picture with proper SG track.
IMHO

Because he wants to make money If there are any problems out there, less people will order it...

Guys, there is already the same thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3042199 Let's use it instead of this one.

van_gogh said:
Guys, there is already the same thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3042199 Let's use it instead of this one.
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This one was specifically made to discuss how legit or not legit club1941 is. Also I don't find the price surprising since the official price from Jiayu's weibo account is 899 CNY for Basic and 999 CNY for Advanced http://www.weibo.com/jiayuyt, which would be just under $160 USD for the Advanced