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Organizing the roms

Hey, can we possibly organize the ROMs in this section, if not in all of XDA already.
Make a thread and organize based on the base ROM, or based on the Developer or something. Its just so cluttered.
The way androidspin does it is great. I have webdev experience and am willing to help out.
Sorry if this is in the wrong section, but since it is related to ROM development, I thought it was relevant.

We need to have categories that separate rom types so eclair wont be in the same place as hero and we need mods or think tanks to be in its on sub forum too.

for me that is great idea

Too bad it won't ever happen. Seems like XDA doesn't give a crap about anything anymore...

I've been wishing that they were organized by types, (eclair, hero, etc.) for a long time now too.

+1 for organising by 'Flavour'

why reinvent the wheel when andriodspin does what you're looking for (including link to xda release threads)..?
further, maintaining a list like that (especially in vbulletin thread format) would be a huge chore that would require intimate knowlege of each and every rom that gets posted.
I used to maintain a list of ROMs in my stickied thread until there were more than a handful.
all that being said...if you want to maintain such a list, more power to you. I'm sure people would find it useful.

Agreed,
The problem is some of the roms here tend to get missed by Android spin, especially if they have just been released, or the dev does not use AS.
Also, this would be very beneficial to WinMo users not just Android users.
I am throwing the idea out there hoping that people are in agreement, and we can get XDA to allow us to start working on.
Rather than yet another thread, it would make sense to have a dedicated ROMS page.

alapapa said:
why reinvent the wheel when andriodspin does what you're looking for (including link to xda release threads)..?
further, maintaining a list like that (especially in vbulletin thread format) would be a huge chore that would require intimate knowlege of each and every rom that gets posted.
I used to maintain a list of ROMs in my stickied thread until there were more than a handful.
all that being said...if you want to maintain such a list, more power to you. I'm sure people would find it useful.
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Q4T.
Besides, if a DEV doesn't bother to post to sites that have lists like AS, who's fault is that, but the DEV.

sticky

can someone please sticky the 3 roms and kernels?

Probably not a good idea - it will be a sticky mess once we are up to 10 roms and 8 kernels. A better idea might be to write a single post that lists/summarizes available roms/kernels. There are stickies like that in other device development forums and it works well and only adds one sticky.

panthar said:
Probably not a good idea - it will be a sticky mess once we are up to 10 roms and 8 kernels. A better idea might be to write a single post that lists/summarizes available roms/kernels. There are stickies like that in other device development forums and it works well and only adds one sticky.
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+1
Better idea
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Or put everything in the wiki. And sticky the wiki link for the epic.
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We could move them out of development and put ROMs and kernels into their own sub-forum.

mattallica76 said:
We could move them out of development and put ROMs and kernels into their own sub-forum.
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I love that idea.
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panthar said:
Probably not a good idea - it will be a sticky mess once we are up to 10 roms and 8 kernels. A better idea might be to write a single post that lists/summarizes available roms/kernels. There are stickies like that in other device development forums and it works well and only adds one sticky.
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+1 however it requires smeone to be the op and constantly upkeep it

mattallica76 said:
We could move them out of development and put ROMs and kernels into their own sub-forum.
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I don't know if you guys have ever used development forums for other well maintained and strongly represented devices on XDA, but the development forum is for ROMs and Kernels. So moving ROMs and Kernels out doesn't make any sense.
Usually what happens as far as having a quickly accessible list of ROMs and Kernels, instead of stickying them, There is one thread made which contains links to each of the ROM threads and that thread is updated as new ROMs and Kernels are made.
The biggest issue right now is that there are too many threads (including this one ) that simply don't belong in this forum. I don't know who the mods for this forum are, but I'm hoping that they will become more active in enforcing the sub-forum content rules.
If you guys want a look at how a well-run and maintained device development sub-forum should be, checkout the hero forums here at XDA. They weren't always great, but they've gotten to a great place.
Our phone is also very young in the community cycle, so I'm things will get better as the goes on and more people get this phone.

akijikan said:
I don't know if you guys have ever used development forums for other well maintained and strongly represented devices on XDA, but the development forum is for ROMs and Kernels. So moving ROMs and Kernels out doesn't make any sense.
Usually what happens as far as having a quickly accessible list of ROMs and Kernels, instead of stickying them, There is one thread made which contains links to each of the ROM threads and that thread is updated as new ROMs and Kernels are made.
The biggest issue right now is that there are too many threads (including this one ) that simply don't belong in this forum. I don't know who the mods for this forum are, but I'm hoping that they will become more active in enforcing the sub-forum content rules.
If you guys want a look at how a well-run and maintained device development sub-forum should be, checkout the hero forums here at XDA. They weren't always great, but they've gotten to a great place.
Our phone is also very young in the community cycle, so I'm things will get better as the goes on and more people get this phone.
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I wasn't suggesting moving them out of development. I was suggesting a sub-forum within development for finished ROM's and kernels. The regular dev threads that focus on individual features(root scripts, brightness tweaks, VooDoo, over-clocking, etc) would stay where they are.
Like this-
http://forum.sdx-developers.com/android-2-1-74/

newkidd said:
Or put everything in the wiki. And sticky the wiki link for the epic.
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If anyone gets a wiki or bible going let me know and I will sticky it.

Questioning the utility to reorganize the threads on the forum???

Hello everyone.
That's my issue may not be the right place, but this is where I find the most relevant, since for this section.
I think for some time the number of threads are increasing enormously for new ROM, which is fine because it shows that the community is very active) but many of the Roma are found to be the same base or from ports of other devices, and there are so many with names that look alike or have nothing to do with the content (I will not name to avoid any controversy and stay in a general term) that we end by not knowing what exactly that is.
So I think it should be revamped a little with all that can be sub-sections by Dev ports or Roma, ways to try to eclaicir section and avoid ending up finally with questions about a thread that has nothing to do with this thread Rom.
That's what I feel for a very short time and I think it would be good for both dev and users of éclaicir things.
When do you think??
Arma, a user begins to consider warning from the time I practice android flash device.

This makes little to no sense, so can't really reply. Think youre essentially saying that maybe devs combine their different ROM releases into single threads?

rorydaredkign said:
This makes little to no sense, so can't really reply. Think youre essentially saying that maybe devs combine their different ROM releases into single threads?
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Or subforums? So the DHD Dev subforum has a couple more subforums within it (one for ported ROMs, one for ROMS built on a native base)? That's how I read it anyway.

Sorry for my bad english (google translation), but yes I think it would be although it is organized by several sub-forums, for example, the ports of other phones, stock rom, rom MluI, or do that every dev its own sub-forums, and finally they are ideas, see what might appeal without being overly burdensome for devs who already have enough to do.
If someone else with ideas on how to build the threads?
The discussion is now open.

I think people would over see things and it would be a mess then a dev gets a new device and his sub forum is left behind and annoy like sticky threads
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sub forms like : Sense Development, MIUI Development and Ported roms development would be super cool and better than just one single development section.
It takes me a roughly 15-20 mins just to find a thread here lol

fearkillerr said:
sub forms like : Sense Development, MIUI Development and Ported roms development would be super cool and better than just one single development section.
It takes me a roughly 15-20 mins just to find a thread here lol
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I totally agree to that!!

Agreed. Either that, or we need someone to keep an updated sticky again. But a "Utilities" section, for radios, RILs, and recoveries would be a good idea also.

fearkillerr said:
sub forms like : Sense Development, MIUI Development and Ported roms development would be super cool and better than just one single development section.
It takes me a roughly 15-20 mins just to find a thread here lol
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And not to forget kernel, RIL and RADIO

[Q] BinDroid Runmed 2.5 V1.5 Q?

Dear All,
Excuse me if I start a new thread here but it is my understanding that certain questions are not to be made in the development section.
I know much has to do with personal taste, your own experience and research, but I am coming from an HTC Aria, and I am looking for a custom ROM for my Inspire.
There are many ROM's posted that I know and appreciate have a lot of hard work and dedication from developers and unconditional testers and followers, as for instance the specific ROM thread for BinDroid's ROM itself alone has close to 900 posts, so please don't be offended by my questions, as for what I have seen and managed to read it seems to be that this might be what I am looking for:
Is this a stable ROM for daily use?
Are there any trade-off's / sacrifices (camara, video, flash, sound, buttons, gps, etc? that don't work or have limitations?)
I can understand that for many long time users and followers there can be "known issues" , but please understand that for newcommers these are not, so your kind comments will be most welcome.
I thank you all for your support and look forward to your answers and any recomendations that you may have.
Cheers!

I would say this Rom is stable for a daily use. For awhile I was running this Rom for little over 2 months. It's very clean. Its one of the handful of roms out here that works form start to finish. The support from the inspire to the desire hd threads for this is very quick if you had any issue that you may come across. I couldn't remember the last time I.had any major issue when using this. Battery life is great if you do a lot of Pandora browsing uploads like to fb etc. Works for me with my inspire. So would differently say flash this sucker.. its worth it.
If I remember right the only thing I did was a different kernel and a uv script lite other then that bad ass.
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Stormglider said:
Dear All,
Excuse me if I start a new thread here but it is my understanding that certain questions are not to be made in the development section.
I know much has to do with personal taste, your own experience and research, but I am coming from an HTC Aria, and I am looking for a custom ROM for my Inspire.
There are many ROM's posted that I know and appreciate have a lot of hard work and dedication from developers and unconditional testers and followers, as for instance the specific ROM thread for BinDroid's ROM itself alone has close to 900 posts, so please don't be offended by my questions, as for what I have seen and managed to read it seems to be that this might be what I am looking for:
Is this a stable ROM for daily use?
Are there any trade-off's / sacrifices (camara, video, flash, sound, buttons, gps, etc? that don't work or have limitations?)
I can understand that for many long time users and followers there can be "known issues" , but please understand that for newcommers these are not, so your kind comments will be most welcome.
I thank you all for your support and look forward to your answers and any recomendations that you may have.
Cheers!
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Let's first start with, welcome! Secondly, while you're correct dev threads are typically (depends on the dev team or individual developing the ROM) are reserved for development, there are Q&A's for each respective ROM that you should use to ask questions regarding a specific ROM. If everyone created a separate thread about each question they had for each ROM they use you can see how chaotic the forums would get.
The best way to figure out what "issues" a ROM has is to read some of the recent posts in both the Q&A and Dev section, you'll see there what most people are dealing with. Most ROMs here are pretty stable and I would say fine for daily use (ICS has some minor bugs due to source issues but from what I'm seeing there are a couple of somewhat stable ICS builds).Remember this is a development site, so some independent searching and reading is expected on your part.
As for Bindroid, I used it way back when they firsant started with sense 3.5 and loved it. Danny and the team are real nice guys and do great work. I would say that ROM is more then capable of being a stable, daily driver. Just remember, only you can decide what you can live with and c live without. All ROMs come with trade offs, some users don't mind them and don't even consider them trade offs or issues which is why you need to decide for yourself. Goood luck man!

[Q] is there a way to filter [ROM]s from XDA?

Hello all,
I've been visiting XDA since the first android phones. And I love seeing all the development made for phones. [MOD]s, [KERNEL]s and fixes/tweaks interest me. The trouble is, they get completely buried under threads about re-skinned stock/ CM / AOKP roms with a different kernel strapped underneath, and given a name containing "jelly", a biblical term, or a word describing speed. Most of these roms don't contribute actual development, and although they are nice for beginners or people who cant spend a day without flashing their phone. I don't care about them, and they obscure the actual development that is happening at XDA.
Is there a proper way of removing threads containing the [ROM] tag from XDA?

The_Double said:
Hello all,
I've been visiting XDA since the first android phones. And I love seeing all the development made for phones. [MOD]s, [KERNEL]s and fixes/tweaks interest me. The trouble is, they get completely buried under threads about re-skinned stock/ CM / AOKP roms with a different kernel strapped underneath, and given a name containing "jelly", a biblical term, or a word describing speed. Most of these roms don't contribute actual development, and although they are nice for beginners or people who cant spend a day without flashing their phone. I don't care about them, and they obscure the actual development that is happening at XDA.
Is there a proper way of removing threads containing the [ROM] tag from XDA?
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Well the [ROM] tag is to differentiate it from a kernel, mod, recovery etc. and doesn't imply that it's any more than a compiled CM base with just a theme add-on.
I understand your frustration completely, but people have to get started somewhere don't they? And the ones that have the most replies, i.e. most popular, tend to stay near the top of the forum anyways.
It would be rather arbitrary I think to take off that tag or tell someone their ROM was not "real" because they just compiled CM and added someone else's kernel and themed it a bit, because technically it IS a custom ROM. What you might do to help that specific chef is post suggestions in his ROM for how to better improve it, and browsing through the various ROMs doesn't take all that long does it? I mean I use Nexus devices, so you know how many ROMs I have to choose from.
I can appreciate where you're coming from, but a custom ROM is a custom ROM, no matter how heavily or lightly modified it is, and to now infer something isn't modified enough from Source to be labeled [ROM] is too much a gray area I think to adequately and fairly decide.

That was my observation too, the more popular the item, the better chance it'll be near the top of the list.
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