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[Q] HellFire Sandwich vs EAGLESBLOOD ICS AOSP

Which rom is more stable atm? I know hellfire sandwich is based on cm9 source from arcee, who released his APLHA code.......apparently that alpha source code of his had fair amount of bugs (Although I am not sure how many of it is fixed/worked around in HFS, can someone compile a list of know issues for hellfire sandwich for me if that isnt too much work? )
According to EBICS, they had the rom built from aosp, isnt that supposed to be cleaner with less issues? On top of that, nvidia just released the tegra sdk i believe.....should we expect some major performance improvement/bug fixes in the near future for both of the rom?
what do you guys think?

First, nobodies going to give a list of what does and doesnt work, just read the last 5-10 pages of the thread, and the first post and youll get an idea of what does and does not work.
Second, HFS is simply a tweaked version of arcee's CM9 (with bugfixes and other things in there as well). EB-ICS is AOSP, that means it's source code is a HEAVILY modified version of stock android 4.0.4. (this does not include the things like RIL and other things that they borrowed from CM9 to get the rom working) EB-ICS may also have many of their own mods that bring alot of the customization and functionality of CM9 back, but it will not have most of the CM9 settings your used to.
Its honestly just up to opinion at this point. i cant tell you which is more stable, youll most likely have to try them out for yourself.
also, NVIDIA DID NOT RELEASE THE SOURCE CODE YET!
that was just a version for a tegra development kit, and we cannot use any part of it for our phones, because the chips are different.
Hope that helps

AWWWWWW!!!!
And thank you for your help

EaglesBlood felt like it was faster to me. I went from HFS 1.4 to the CM9 based EB to EB AOSP to HFS 1.6. I probably like EB more, but HFS has some tweaks that make it a slightly more enjoyable experience.
They're both great, though. As soon as a new build of EB is released, I'll go back to that and probably just hop back and forth between ROMs between builds.

+1 for Eaglesblood
I'm using Eaglesblood AOSP 5.5 and it is definitely more stable on my G2x than HFS 1.9 was. Hellfire Sandwich was not very responsive, and crashed and rebooted a lot (although at the time I had the old baseband). I would go with Eaglesblood hands down.

In my experience on my G2x, Eaglesblood ICS performs like ****. Hellfire Sandwich works great. EB always makes the phone unresponsive for a few minutes after I turn wireless on. I assume it's something to do with all the apps updating and syncing at once, but I never have this problem with HF. I have to reboot the phone at least once every 48 hours or the alarm clock stops working. I'll sit there and watch it pass the time it is supposed to go off and it doesn't (This has resulted in me missing an early morning class - NOT happy). Various apps crash more often on EB, and sometimes it seems as if the whole OS crashes, when the app disappears and the launcher is also gone.

My own personal experience, Hellfire anything over EGB anything. Whether ICS or GB.
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From my personal experiences, I would have to suggest Temasek's GB ROM (build 135.1) for your GB Pleasures, and TonyP's ParanoidAndriod JB Flavored ICS Build 11, or Genesis ICS 8/1/12 Build. Both rock the ICS world.
I can't use any ICS build currently, as I depend on WiFi calling to be mostly stable for me, and I have found that only in the GB Roms at this time.

Overview and Features/ Bugs of ICS ROMs

Ok guys, I am looking for an ICS ROM since I love ICS and to be up to date with Android stuff. So I had a look at which ROMs are there and found these:
(Ordered in last activity of its thread in the development section)
1. |-ROM-|-4.0.4-|-AOKP-B39-|-CM9-|-6/15/12-|-WildchildIcE-v0.9b-|-Nightlies-|
2. [ROM]HTC Doubleshot ICS 4.03(Sensation XE Sense 3.6)app2ext 5-5-2012
3. [ROM][Official]MyTouch4G Slide CyanogenMod 9 Alpha 5 (06/27) - 4.0.4
4. [ROM]CM9 Unofficial KANG [SEMI-NIGHTLY]
5. [ROM][6 March 2012][Alpha]Pyr-O-Ice FUTUREAL 1.0.0 (Sense 4.0,Android 4.0.3,OC1.5Ghz)
6. [ROM][Mar 7 2012] Pyr-o-Ice Sense 1.1.1 (Android 4.0.3 ICS, Sense 3.6, 1.5GHz OC)
7. - ?. Are there others that are not on XDA?
Let's collect basic information at first and see which ones are in development.
I will come back soon. Also I will keep this post (original/ first post) up to date with stuff you guys post here.
And I have a question. I don't understand why there are so many different ROMs. Do developers just like to have their own and see what they can achieve? Or do they have differing interests? Sense will of course be one, I guess it can't be just added on top of a working ICS ROM? Wouldn't it be more fun, rewarding and forward thinking for them to all work together?
Thanks for every feedback.

Most ICS Roms are by one Dev. Tbalden, he just made Roms to do it. All the bugs are outlined in the "Not Working" section. All ROMs based off 2.6 Kernel have simular issues (Wifi Tether, 1080p not working) All Sense 3.6 Roms have the same issues, with minor UI bugs that won't be fixed. Why? Nobodys using them. Most AOSP/CM9/AOKP bugs kernel wise are the same. Then UI wise varys from ROM to ROM. I can tell your new to here, I don't feel this thread should be here Xo All the bugs are outlined. As you can see CM9/AOKP are the most used. On Rootzwiki there's two ICS Roms by Tbalden. Virtuious Inc, and Virtuious Prim. Virt Inc with the 3.0 kernel seems to be the most "stable" out of all ICS Roms as of now.
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Unrelashade said:
Ok guys, I am looking for an ICS ROM since I love ICS and to be up to date with Android stuff. So I had a look at which ROMs are there and found these:
(Ordered in last activity of its thread in the development section)
1. |-ROM-|-4.0.4-|-AOKP-B39-|-CM9-|-6/15/12-|-WildchildIcE-v0.9b-|-Nightlies-|
2. [ROM]HTC Doubleshot ICS 4.03(Sensation XE Sense 3.6)app2ext 5-5-2012
3. [ROM][Official]MyTouch4G Slide CyanogenMod 9 Alpha 5 (06/27) - 4.0.4
4. [ROM]CM9 Unofficial KANG [SEMI-NIGHTLY]
5. [ROM][6 March 2012][Alpha]Pyr-O-Ice FUTUREAL 1.0.0 (Sense 4.0,Android 4.0.3,OC1.5Ghz)
6. [ROM][Mar 7 2012] Pyr-o-Ice Sense 1.1.1 (Android 4.0.3 ICS, Sense 3.6, 1.5GHz OC)
7. - ?. Are there others that are not on XDA?
Let's collect basic information at first and see which ones are in development.
I will come back soon. Also I will keep this post (original/ first post) up to date with stuff you guys post here.
And I have a question. I don't understand why there are so many different ROMs. Do developers just like to have their own and see what they can achieve? Or do they have differing interests? Sense will of course be one, I guess it can't be just added on top of a working ICS ROM? Wouldn't it be more fun, rewarding and forward thinking for them to all work together?
Thanks for every feedback.
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You do make some excellant points! Bear in mind I'm no coder/deveolper but I'd be happy to give up my take on what I've gathered about the subject since I've been frequenting this site.
The Development threads are a bit more 'formal'....and rightly so. It keeps the discussion from spiraling into something it wasn't originally started for by the OP. But all the other forums & their threads are much more liberal as you'll see.
Now then your questions.....
1. WildChildIcE is THE ICS ROM you're going to want to keep your eye on IMHO. This one is an AOKP ROM which seems to give you the usefullness & freedoms of Sense without the bloat & huge size. From what I've been able to tell it merges most if not alll of the great features of ICS into one ROM where not all do. VERY customizable, many themes available, smooth, quick, OC/UC available, good battery life, etc. A very usable Beta ROM.
2. A Sense ROM I've not tried yet but being 3.6 it should be smoother & quicker than the GB Senses that you may have experienced. At least, they seem that way to me. Although the developer hasn't returned he has labeled it as relatively 'bug-free' but the things not working are sometimes deal breakers for folks. The wide format camcorder CAN be worked around but wifi tethering to my tablet is pretty important to me. There's been no updates & relatively few user comments although it's using Tbalden's 1.5 OC kernal and it's a GOOD one supporting Sense 3.6.
3. CM9 is another I haven't used yet, per se. Except for the fact that XMC's ROM has been temporarily merged with it for stability purposes and to bypass a couple of stubborn bugs. It's my understanding that it will return to pure AOKP by full release which will bring back the feature 'ROM Control'. You've not seen that in GB or Froyo and you will LIKE it! I've been using the latest nightly simply because the phone proximity sensor is working.
4. This being an UNofficial CM9 KANG, it will most likely have the same features and shortcomings the official CM9 does along with a few new features the developer saw as something he and other users might like. (This is basically where all the different flavors of ICS....GB....& Froyo come from). PLUS, when finished, CyanogenMod is a ROM that others most always aspire to be as thoroughly debugged as.
5. This is a ROM by an amazing developer...Tbalden. This ROM was 'orphaned' here when Tbalden joined The Virtuous Team and transformed there (www.virtuousrom.com) into (what I consider) one of the best most stable ICS ROMs out there called Virtuious Inquisition. As a matter of fact when I flashed it to my wife's phone she told me "ALRIGHT....this is the ONE! Now STOP CHANGING MY PHONE"! LOL It is a complete fantastic ICS with a battery life outta this world. TRY it.....you'll LIKE it!
6. ANOTHER fantastic ROM by Tbalden. Need I say more? The only thing I can remember being not being near perfect is the dialer being slightly shifted to the right but still completely usable. Futureal/Virtual Inquisition was the one he was inspired to compose while he was working on this one. Like I said before.....need I say MORE?
7. There are several other you might want to try that are now longer actively linked here. Over at Rootzwiki, check out a developer called Undeadk9. He did some GREAT things for our phone with some creations that lots of folks still use regularly. Myself included.
TRY some of these and I believe you'll be able to answer your general question at the bottom of you post all by yourself. The answer will be evident to you.
Good Luck....and Welcome to XDA!

Thanks guys!
AgentCherryCola: I'm not new to the XDA Forums and I also had some looks around the ROM threads of the MT4GS forum. I know they all have lists for their bugs and I appreciate that very much. However, I still think it is useful to have a thread who sums it up and compares the ROMs and their issues. Thanks for your summary!
WeekendsR2short: Happy to see someone likes my idea I appreciate your reviews very much. And yes I could just try every ROM and I think I will, at least some of them. But probably only for some minutes, because once I have all my data, apps and stuff set up right, which takes quite some time, I don't want to do it all over again. That's one reason I'm asking for experiences of ROMs and their advantages and disatvantages. But yeah maybe I am overcomplicating things... But it's still fun and useful for newcomers
BTW back then on my G1 it was pretty complicated... a lot of ROMs were pretty fast at the beginning and once you installed some apps and used the phone a bit it got really creepily slow... But I suppose I don't have to worry about that with a phone that is about 6 times as fast

There are some early ICS ROMs by undeadk9 over on rootzwiki, but he stopped developing for the Doubleshot. For a few months, he was the ONLY dev working on this phone.
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[Q] New to the phone, have some questions.

First off, I am interested in a vanilla ROM that is stable--what is the best currently available for this phone? CM, AOKP, PA, etc. I would prefer Jelly Bean, but if ICS is more stable, I will definitely take that.
Here is what I need to be working:
GPS
Simultaneous Voice + 3G
Video
Camera
Wifi Tethering
Heavy Customization
Decent Battery Life
NFC
Now, given the ROM you recommend, what are some kernels recommended for that ROM? Again, I'm looking for the ROM to be smooth, but would sacrifice a little performance for better battery life.
I plan on purchasing a used (a week old) one from someone off of Craig's List tomorrow (we are meeting at a Verizon store)--is there anything I should specifically be checking before I decide on a final purchase for the phone?
Thanks ahead of time for any advice anyone may have!
Ninja-edit: I obviously plan on rooting this, and by the looks of it, if it received an OTA, I can't unlock the bootloader? Will this affect my ability to root and flash custom ROMs at all?

you should get your phone and flash a few touchwiz roms, and a few AOPS roms and decide what you want. a nice compromise is beans build. i guess its themed after AOSP but ive never flashed it. theyre different experiences. ive had good luck with KTkernel but others run other kernels. never tried any others.
youll get many recommendations here both TW and AOSP, because basically any rom you flash will have all of those features working. (unsure about simultanous voice + data but i think thats on all?)
dont mean to give such a blehhhhhh answer, but only you can decide on what you run

ddurandSGS3 said:
you should get your phone and flash a few touchwiz roms, and a few AOPS roms and decide what you want. a nice compromise is beans build. i guess its themed after AOSP but ive never flashed it. theyre different experiences. ive had good luck with KTkernel but others run other kernels. never tried any others.
youll get many recommendations here both TW and AOSP, because basically any rom you flash will have all of those features working. (unsure about simultanous voice + data but i think thats on all?)
dont mean to give such a blehhhhhh answer, but only you can decide on what you run
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I'm really not a fan of Touchwiz at all. Do you have a specific AOSP ROM that you'd recommend?

running AOKP M1 with the 11/13 ktkernel. i keep trying others but always come back to AOKP. its just great for me and everything I use works.
I ran paranoid android for a month or so without any issues too. ive had great luck with the AOSP roms for the S3.
if those interest you...king kang is a combination of AOKP and ParanoidAndroid. I flashed and went back to AOKPM1 though.

Thanks for the reply! I'll give AOKP a shot and report back here with how it works!

[Q] I think Cynogen is not working Actively On P500

I feel these days CM people not interested in Lg P500, Because they are still not able to deliver a stable Gingerbird ROM while other individual developers are creating good jellybean ROM. Some CM members are also involved in developing Jellybean Rom unofficially but I personally feel for regular user CM7.2 is good . please make CM7.2 stable and fast.
and please officially produce jellybean for P500.
Some people may criticize me for talking about CM demerits and can argue that they are making free ROM so why you complaining.
But for me now CM is not any individuals property, we make CM popular we use CM from long time and we want if support our p500 for long time.
Google is also a free. and we can complain to Google.so all free are not Free.

CM7 is 99% stable.. what else do you want to do with it. People move forward.. so should you.
P500 is quite old now. LG stopped its production in mid 2011. And obviously you will find a very few devs for this device.. most of them bought new phones and moved on.
Like how elcair and froyo are out of market.. so will gingerbread, soon.
If you like GB.. you must try Gingersnap by neko. Its stable, fast, smooth and with lot of good features.
If you want.. you can also try CM9 by hephappy or arjen. Second last release of hephappy cm9 is stable and good for daily use.. for end user.
Dont wait for any JB official CM.. since its not meant for arm v6 low powered device like O1.
Still rasheed and other devs are working very hard to make it work on our device without arm7 features.

If you want a "stable" CM7 build, why not just flash the "stable" build? Even the nightlies are stable. In my opinion, CM7 is already stable and fast.

LG-P501 said:
I feel these days CM people not interested in Lg P500, Because they are still not able to deliver a stable Gingerbird ROM while other individual developers are creating good jellybean ROM. Some CM members are also involved in developing Jellybean Rom unofficially but I personally feel for regular user CM7.2 is good . please make CM7.2 stable and fast.
and please officially produce jellybean for P500.
Some people may criticize me for talking about CM demerits and can argue that they are making free ROM so why you complaining.
But for me now CM is not any individuals property, we make CM popular we use CM from long time and we want if support our p500 for long time.
Google is also a free. and we can complain to Google.so all free are not Free.
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So you are mad because you are not getting free stuff from people who you are not paying to do the stuff you want? You should send them a mail telling them if they don't start working on the roms you will be very, very mad.
Or you could learn how to do the stuff you want.

Cyanogenmod 7 is stable FYI
Dude, just please stop complaining
If you want an android phone with regular updates buy a Nexus 4 or Galaxy Nexus
You've complained before about CM for not making stable rom for LGP500
Let me tell you something, Our phone is good phone, its a budget phone with an outdated hardware (armv6), even though it is now outdated, its still supports up to CM10 or CM10.1 (although this rom have features not working on our devices) even though not officially made Cyanogenmod please just support our devs, {Rashed97,bytecode,hehappy(although he is not on xda anymore because of noobs ) }
You've posted spams earlier about an ics rom with working camera and stuff, but you've made our hopes dead before because its fake and a spam :crying:, and then you would be back complaining that this thing is not working, you hate this thing, let me tell you that stop complaining about our phone's shortcomings, comprende?

From your post seems that you are paying CM team to make a rom and you are upset because they're not working for you.
-CM7 is stable and official from the team.
-You will never see an officialized CM9/10/10.1
-There's plenty of fully working and stable ICS roms.
-Remember that the main problem is armv6: OMX not developed for ICS, armv7 only features in JB
-If you want a stable rom flash last stock from lg or any GB rom

And coming from a person who cannot even spell cyanogen properly.(yes, u) Cm7 IS stable. It's simple: you want more stable, you build it yourself. If not, then keep quiet and appreciate what the devs in cm team is doing.
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Respect cm team, Lg P500 is Legendary!! :beer:
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Hey isn't he the guy who made the fake android 4.0.4 coming soon thread??? -_- I never forget a face :sly:

Cm10.1 upgrade to cm10.2 upgrade worthy. ?

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As I understand it there is a difference as in jb 4.1 to 4.2 with 4.2 to 4.3 but seems like so many prob with 4.3. 4.2 I assume is more stable. Some nihmlt kernel work.for 4.3 some don't for 4.2 but what do we want. Don't we want a full featured Aries. Won't Aries cm9 whenever pub released be the same as jb orig plus, without GPS? Seems like GPS.Will.never work.unless there are a few specific ppl assigned that really take it head on to figure something out. So why not.make what would prob be the best version cm for this device.Aries.cm7 and make GPS work Aries if possible. Its the most common sense option. No doubt even herring is great basically same as kj6 but better... but with Mtd and it being Aries with GPS and everything else it would have vest shot for full support.since based on the most inhaled.Kernel of anyone has an idea of.which stage cm7 Aries.Kernel.would be.mod from an existing Aries kernel.or would need rebuild or.not. what I'm asking is. What is the best full featured Aries Rom.we can do. If answer is jb I'll a crept that but not for anything besides jb. Anyone feel what I'm sayin

If you want to pay some people to work on this fulltime, then you can 'assign' them tasks. Otherwise, be happy that our devs who have mostly moved away from using this phone are still giving you updates. In any capacity.

I disagree with OP. just use a BT GPS with CM 10.2. Costs 34$ @ aliexpress incl. delivery. Everything works otherwise.
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