I have not bought One S yet (not released here) and unless this one issue is cleared up, I might have to let go my favorite upcoming phone
As most of you know, HTC One series comes with 3 keys, back, home, task switch. I do not know what the heck were they thinking removing the menu button and replacing it with task-switcher.. (that should've been long press on home).
For some more info about the issue: http://bit.ly/zbi4Nl
So my question is this:
Will it be possible to do a remap? Can we get rid of ugly "legacy menu key-bar" on bottom of screen as well?
Is anything similar done before, if so, is it hardware hack, rom or app based?
Not exactly the same, but here's a mod remapping the search key on the Nexus S to recent apps.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1448576
So this looks like something that has been done through software on other phones.
Hmmm.. interesting. But would the legacy menu-bar get removed from screen once the keys are remapped? Is it something ICS does by itself or a "feature" of Sense 4?
It's ICS. My honeycomb tablet is the same way. You can pull up the menu in the notifications menu and access settings that way, and can add a shortcut on the screen if you want. I'm sure you can find a way to remap it but that's how they're all coming now, it's not an HTC thing by any means.
What a shame..why would u think all ics phones are like that. Hmm has to be something so look it up. And since this phone isnt released yet this question should not even be asked or yet for anyone here to know what works.
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Look at it this way, in 12 months time no one will need the menu key anymore as devs would re-design their apps where the menu will be on the action bar. Going forward the menu key is legacy and it is good that HTC is designing their new phones to follow the new design principles of Android
I'm sorry I just can't see how having less keys and everything jammed into onscreen menu is a good thing.
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Hey, it looks like this change was added to the Virtuous One S ROM
Remaped buttons (Long press Home -> Recent apps, Recent apps -> Menu) (Thanks lyapota)
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http://rootzwiki.com/topic/20859-rommar-24villes-seriesvirtuous-one-s-v120/
Wow.. thanks for heads up. Now i know its posssible, i might consider htc once more.
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Please? I sooooooo want to make it useful, like Browser or Msgs.
Thumbs up for that request
Like buttons remapper ?
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This would be great. This was one of the first things I did to my MT4G.
+1. You can long press on the screen to get to the Personalize menu; why have it as a button as well?
ui build.prop
i know when i had the mytouch 4g you could remap the "g" button by editing the UI/Mapkey file something like that. will try and find the thread
edit: ok found the thread, but dont know if it also possible on sensation or not....http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=836702
update: pretty sure it not the same thing since it was a hardware button the was remaped. just trying to help
I know this was done in at least one ROM on the MT4G, and there are MODS in the Desire Z / HD/ G2 forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=876464
Aha! HERE'S one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1210563
Would like to see this as well. Played with a customizable skin on the iPhone. Very useful!
redbullcat said:
+1. You can long press on the screen to get to the Personalize menu; why have it as a button as well?
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Can`t do that on mine
davemazo said:
Can`t do that on mine
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What, not on any of the homescreens? Long press and the Personalize menu comes up?
It's a core Android feature; they wouldn't remove it.
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What, not on any of the homescreens? Long press and the Personalize menu comes up?
It's a core Android feature; they wouldn't remove it.
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Nope. If I long press on a blank or empty part of any screen nothing happens. Its a UK T Mobile
davemazo said:
Nope. If I long press on a blank or empty part of any screen nothing happens. Its a UK T Mobile
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Weird. What ROM you on?
Stock t mobile rom
I`ve since discovered that I can get to the personalize screen by long pressing the screen if there is an empty space for a shortcut icon. Previously all my homescreens were full so obviously I had to remove a shortcut to be able to then personalize that screen.
Sorry, my mistake but in my defence it is my first Android phone and I`m slowly finding my way around it.
I am referencing my own post in the Evo 3D forums, but when an ICS rom is made from AOSP, I think it would be cool to give the option, via an apk, or something for users to flash, to repurpose the menu capacitive button to do the same task as the task switcher "button" on the Galaxy Nexus (Prime). Wanted to get people's thoughts on this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1359960
That would be awesome and I would love you forever
tokuzumi said:
I am referencing my own post in the Evo 3D forums, but when an ICS rom is made from AOSP, I think it would be cool to give the option, via an apk, or something for users to flash, to repurpose the menu capacitive button to do the same task as the task switcher "button" on the Galaxy Nexus (Prime). Wanted to get people's thoughts on this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1359960
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When the Shift gets ICS it probably won't have the soft keys like the Galaxy Nexus, so there would really be no need for this. I've flashed the from source build for the Nexus and it doesn't have soft keys.. so you still need the menu key. Not only to get into settings but also for menus inside apps. With the Nexus S if you hold the home key it gives you the new ICS "task switcher" or recent apps screen, so I don't really see the need to remap the hardware buttons.
crump84 said:
When the Shift gets ICS it probably won't have the soft keys like the Galaxy Nexus, so there would really be no need for this. I've flashed the from source build for the Nexus and it doesn't have soft keys.. so you still need the menu key. Not only to get into settings but also for menus inside apps. With the Nexus S if you hold the home key it gives you the new ICS "task switcher" or recent apps screen, so I don't really see the need to remap the hardware buttons.
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Ahhhh....I did not know this. This is good info. I was assuming the format of the apps would be the same across all phones, so the menu screen would be visible, even if you had a physical/capacitive menu button. I'll be curious to see when some "official" (read: stable daily driver) roms come out, and see what happens.
So, as we're all aware, the One X has no menu key, and instead has a multitasking key, and programs now either utilize an overflow menu in the top-right, a la Play Store, or a large bar taking up the bottom of the screen. What I'm wondering is if the bar is an HTC creation, as some people seem to believe, or if Android itself puts it there for phones without a menu button that are running apps that don't have an overflow menu.
RIght now I'm seeing plenty of mods (or maybe just one mod in several places) that remap the multitasking key into a menu button, and remove the bar. But then I'm left with a button whose function doesn't match the symbol on the key and it doesn't match Google's vision for Android either. I rather like the idea of the overflow menu and what I'd much prefer is to keep the intended functionality of the multitasking key, and instead force programs to use an overflow menu and get rid of the overflow BAR at the bottom all together. I can't seem to find a mod to this effect, and I'm not entirely sure it's even POSSIBLE...hence, this thread...
I believe it would have to be coded into the app itself, hence why some apps use the bar at the bottom of the screen. Those apps haven't been coded to use the menu button at the top.
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bradleyG said:
I believe it would have to be coded into the app itself, hence why some apps use the bar at the bottom of the screen. Those apps haven't been coded to use the menu button at the top.
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You are correct. The overflow menu in the top right must be hard coded into the app. The bar at the bottom is Android's (not HTC's) way of dealing with the lack of a menu button and lack of an implemented overflow menu.
What a godforsaken annoyance this 3dot bar is.
You have the 2nd largest screen (not counting the Note) to the S3, and a fair bit of it is wasted in a game all for that bar.
Does anybody know of a way to disable this bar without rooting? I've never done this, and since this is a transitionary device, I'd like to keep it stock for resale.
Either root or upgrade firmware to 2.2x. What's funny, is on firmware 1.44, their pre release build you can press small arrow on that 3 dot bar and make it disappear, then hold recent app button for a second to bring it up again when needed
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.....What's funny, is on firmware 1.44,.....
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ouch!
that's not funny at all. that's mean!
Just wondering if there is a mod similar to the Softkey Enabler for the International One X? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1797850
I tried that mod on CM10 on my One XL (AT&T) but hit hangs on boot.
Thanks
Ask your fav dev to enable it, I'm not sure why you would want this?
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superchilpil said:
Ask your fav dev to enable it, I'm not sure why you would want this?
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for one. I replaced my screen so I have screen separation issues.
would be nice to enable softkeys (disable soft keys) so that the LEDs from the capacitive buttons don't shine through.
rubensun said:
for one. I replaced my screen so I have screen separation issues.
would be nice to enable softkeys (disable soft keys) so that the LEDs from the capacitive buttons don't shine through.
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To each their own, I would just disable the backlight on the buttons
Like I said just ask a dev to make a patch, most will be happy to when they have time
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Thanks for the info. I'm coming from a Galaxy Nexus, and I like the soft bar. The rotation of the softkeys is nice, and I tend to hit the silkscreen by accident either when holding the phone.
Being a bit new on this forum, any suggestions a dev that may be amenable to requests
Thanks
The hugest reason for enabling soft keys are for iphone people. We are extremely used to having "safe" areas to grab a phone, esp in landscape. I have used an android phone for six months and I don't know where to grab the thing in landscape. I'm always accidentally touching the home or back button and going between apps, it's annoying. And it really hampers usability. This is something that I can't get used to. I definitely think Apple is right to have a hardware old-fashioned home button, or at least some bezel space. This is why I want the soft keys patch for the One XL.
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The hugest reason for enabling soft keys are for iphone people. We are extremely used to having "safe" areas to grab a phone, esp in landscape. I have used an android phone for six months and I don't know where to grab the thing in landscape. I'm always accidentally touching the home or back button and going between apps, it's annoying. And it really hampers usability. This is something that I can't get used to. I definitely think Apple is right to have a hardware old-fashioned home button, or at least some bezel space. This is why I want the soft keys patch for the One XL.
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decompile framework-res.apk for the ROM you are using.
I think softkey enabling is in bools.xml.. if not search through strings, arrays, or public.xml
When you find it and change it, recompile and push it to /system/framework
lamenramen said:
The hugest reason for enabling soft keys are for iphone people. We are extremely used to having "safe" areas to grab a phone, esp in landscape. I have used an android phone for six months and I don't know where to grab the thing in landscape. I'm always accidentally touching the home or back button and going between apps, it's annoying. And it really hampers usability. This is something that I can't get used to. I definitely think Apple is right to have a hardware old-fashioned home button, or at least some bezel space. This is why I want the soft keys patch for the One XL.
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TUTORIAL: How to Turn Off the Hardware Keys - Function, Lights and Vibration
This will work for any AOSP ROM.
1) I used AOKP 4.2.1, you can disable your hardware keys(sort of) editing 2 files in you system/usr/keylayout folder: keypad_8960.kl & synaptics-rmi-touchscreen.kl
Edit these entries in both files, you must open then as a text file and be using a root explorer.
Set key 102, 139, 158, 217 to FOCUS, this will make them do nothing when you are in every app except in camera, when they make it focus.
Save each file after editing and reboot.
2) To turn off vibration go to settings/sound and turn off vibrate on touch.
3) To turn off other hardware key backlights use: AdjBrightness
In AdjBrightness turn off the buttons by pressing the button marked "buttons" under the light toggles. To lock then off so they dont come back on after locking and unlocking, press settings key in that app to bring up a menu, then press Option. Then, under buttons check the first one, "Lock off button lights".
That is it you are done. The only thing is you have it open AdjBrightness after a reboot so it can apply the settings.
superchilpil said:
To each their own, I would just disable the backlight on the buttons
Like I said just ask a dev to make a patch, most will be happy to when they have time
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Try this, worked for me!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.sleepydragon.capbutnbrightness
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I am so happy about this. Samsung was breaking my balls with this. Finally....
http://blogs.computerworld.com/android/23359/samsung-android-menu-button
Lol they can dump the rest of it......
why this good news i like the menu button
pnr2020 said:
why this good news i like the menu button
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The menu button is objectively... wrong!
The first relates to Samsung's decision to include the Menu button -- an element Google removed from the platform at the start of the 4.0 era. The old-style Menu button was eliminated for a specific reason: On button-free devices, a special onscreen icon signals the presence of functions related to the OS or to specific applications -- functions like accessing advanced settings in Gmail, requesting a desktop version of a website in Chrome, or viewing your list of installed apps in the Play Store. In Samsung's setup, there's nothing to let you know when those options are available unless you think to tap the Menu button at the right time.
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http://www.computerworld.com/s/arti...iew_A_real_world_evaluation?pageNumber=2#goto
http://blogs.computerworld.com/smartphones/22921/7-silly-things-galaxy-note-3#buttons
To bad I liked the button to
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jastonas said:
I am so happy about this. Samsung was breaking my balls with this. Finally....
http://blogs.computerworld.com/android/23359/samsung-android-menu-button
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Not too bothered about the menu button, although obviously best Samsung move with the design of android. Would have rather they had changed the physical home button to a capacitive one. Although I dont see them changing that one anytime soon, because if they do that they might as well use on screen buttons, which would mean a slight decrease in screen size and perhaps the loss of their identity (as it would resemble a nexus/other brand phone).
I like the menu/back and the physical home button is one of the reasons i like them
each to there own and all that crap.
After my beloved HTC Incredible S, I vowed never to get another HTC as they had removed the menu button, leaving just 2 buttons.
First the incredibly useful search button gets removed off Android, now this.
If I wanted pretty much no buttons I'd go for an iPhone. But I don't - I want easy control over my phone and not having to rely on the touchscreen for every single command! :crying:
Yea, there's nothing wrong with that button. I like it!
Hardware menu button is logical and very intuitive. Instead of search and explore sometimes awkward interface, i can press menu button and get menu. Also, not every app looks good with always visible menu button. I'm using 3rd party dialer where only dial keyboard and call log/contacts are visible. Where to put menu button? Make whole bar just for this button? It's lame! And there are many other apps where on-screen menu button will look like 5th leg for dog.
I like present Samsung button layout and would like to have it in the future phones.
they should 100 % keep menu button its just nice having physical button will really miss it
they should keep the physical button i have no problem with it
I love the menu button!
My old HTC One S had a recent apps button instead of menu. All EVERY custom ROM ever did was remap it to menu! What I hope sammy does is ditch the physical home button and go metal!!
Actual buttons setup is very good (only difference from nexus is menu button instead of multitasking button). But multitasking is already accessible through home button (like in ios) and menu button is smart (don't have to search for the 3 dots). Removing it is a bad move, samsung would ditch one of its best intuition.
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Menu button is definitely needed especially on big screens because on screen menu button is at the top! I hope it stays on the future galaxy phones.
gsmyth said:
Not too bothered about the menu button, although obviously best Samsung move with the design of android. Would have rather they had changed the physical home button to a capacitive one. Although I dont see them changing that one anytime soon, because if they do that they might as well use on screen buttons, which would mean a slight decrease in screen size and perhaps the loss of their identity (as it would resemble a nexus/other brand phone).
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Actually physical home button is one of my favourite features on Samsung phones. It just makes it so easy to wake up the phone (yes - i'm left handed, so power button on the right side is not very comfortable for me!), but also to answer a call. Especially when using gloves and/or S View pouch that i have.
I will be ditching Samsung next year when I am due for upgrade. They should ditch their crapwiz as well.
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I will be ditching Samsung next year when I am due for upgrade. They should ditch their crapwiz as well.
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Now that they are changing touchwiz?
First of all...f*ck you Samsung!
There, I got it out of my system now..
I knew android had this button since always and I always used it since my first smartphone, the Galaxy S I9000.
I find the fact that they'll change it a horrible idea!
I hope the S5, Note 4 etc will keep the current design...
Even if they don't though, you can remap any key if you've rooted your phone and I'll make it again an options menu even if the icon shows otherwise.
nfsmw_gr said:
First of all...f*ck you Samsung!
There, I got it out of my system now..
I knew android had this button since always and I always used it since my first smartphone, the Galaxy S I9000.
I find the fact that they'll change it a horrible idea!
I hope the S5, Note 4 etc will keep the current design...
Even if they don't though, you can remap any key if you've rooted your phone and I'll make it again an options menu even if the icon shows otherwise.
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Google forced the menu button to be inside apps so having a hardware menu button is redundant. I prefer the button too, blame Google... No more menu button, no external sdcard support for Nexus...
Enviado do meu Galaxy S4