I am referencing my own post in the Evo 3D forums, but when an ICS rom is made from AOSP, I think it would be cool to give the option, via an apk, or something for users to flash, to repurpose the menu capacitive button to do the same task as the task switcher "button" on the Galaxy Nexus (Prime). Wanted to get people's thoughts on this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1359960
That would be awesome and I would love you forever
tokuzumi said:
I am referencing my own post in the Evo 3D forums, but when an ICS rom is made from AOSP, I think it would be cool to give the option, via an apk, or something for users to flash, to repurpose the menu capacitive button to do the same task as the task switcher "button" on the Galaxy Nexus (Prime). Wanted to get people's thoughts on this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1359960
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When the Shift gets ICS it probably won't have the soft keys like the Galaxy Nexus, so there would really be no need for this. I've flashed the from source build for the Nexus and it doesn't have soft keys.. so you still need the menu key. Not only to get into settings but also for menus inside apps. With the Nexus S if you hold the home key it gives you the new ICS "task switcher" or recent apps screen, so I don't really see the need to remap the hardware buttons.
crump84 said:
When the Shift gets ICS it probably won't have the soft keys like the Galaxy Nexus, so there would really be no need for this. I've flashed the from source build for the Nexus and it doesn't have soft keys.. so you still need the menu key. Not only to get into settings but also for menus inside apps. With the Nexus S if you hold the home key it gives you the new ICS "task switcher" or recent apps screen, so I don't really see the need to remap the hardware buttons.
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Ahhhh....I did not know this. This is good info. I was assuming the format of the apps would be the same across all phones, so the menu screen would be visible, even if you had a physical/capacitive menu button. I'll be curious to see when some "official" (read: stable daily driver) roms come out, and see what happens.
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DroidX, rooted, stock ROM
I came from a rooted Incredible with soft buttons, and dislike the hardware buttons on the X. I installed the brilliant Swipepad, which handles many of the issues, but still haven't found a convenient way to get HOME without that button.
MENU and RETURN would also be nice.
Is there a way to do that?
Lucky You Try Button Savior.. I've been using it for 6 months and it's great, Has menu,screen off, home and others
noguru said:
DroidX, rooted, stock ROM
I came from a rooted Incredible with soft buttons, and dislike the hardware buttons on the X. I installed the brilliant Swipepad, which handles many of the issues, but still haven't found a convenient way to get HOME without that button.
MENU and RETURN would also be nice.
Is there a way to do that?
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You could probably look for a soft keys app. There's a few out there.
godfish said:
Lucky You Try Button Savior.. I've been using it for 6 months and it's great, Has menu,screen off, home and others
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Installed Button Savior and tried various config options, but can't seem to get the trigger to show on my Droid X screen. ???
If you run CM7, you could turn on 'Tablet Tweaks'. It adds honeycomb style home/back/menu to the notification bar (and lets you move it to the bottom rather than the top if desired).
after you install you need to open the app, and go over the settings. Then the trigger pops up
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If you run CM7, you could turn on 'Tablet Tweaks'. It adds honeycomb style home/back/menu to the notification bar (and lets you move it to the bottom rather than the top if desired).
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I am running CM7 on my Droid x and my galaxy tab... settings are there on my tab but the tablet tweaks aren't all there on my Droid x, only status bar on bottom option, dead zone option and disable lockscreen option. The settings for soft buttons aren't there, where they are on my tablet. Not sure if it is unique to my rom but my source for Droid x is straight from CM7 site, and I install nightlies almost every day. I'm in no way calling you a liar, but I am wondering if you have first hand experience, as if you do, I would actually like to know how to get the soft key setting, because it would be practical at nighttime to switch off lights on home buttons and use a soft key instead(those home lights are so damn bright at night and you can't lower their brightness like you can the screen, but you can shut them off)
Sprint SGT + CM7 = AWESOMENESS!!!!
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I am running CM7 on my Droid x and my galaxy tab... settings are there on my tab but the tablet tweaks aren't all there on my Droid x, only status bar on bottom option, dead zone option and disable lockscreen option. The settings for soft buttons aren't there, where they are on my tablet. Not sure if it is unique to my rom but my source for Droid x is straight from CM7 site, and I install nightlies almost every day. I'm in no way calling you a liar, but I am wondering if you have first hand experience, as if you do, I would actually like to know how to get the soft key setting, because it would be practical at nighttime to switch off lights on home buttons and use a soft key instead(those home lights are so damn bright at night and you can't lower their brightness like you can the screen, but you can shut them off)
Sprint SGT + CM7 = AWESOMENESS!!!!
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You are correct. I assumed it was there and didn't actually check until just now.
I use CM7 W/GB (RevNumbers builds). They are almost identical to the official nightly builds. I also use CM7 on my G-Tablet. Know that Tablet tweaks was there, and that the Tablet tweaks option was there on my X, I just assumed (my bad) that the options were the same.
After your post, I double checked on my X and I get the same options as you.
Looks like button savior is the way to go.
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You are correct. I assumed it was there and didn't actually check until just now.
I use CM7 W/GB (RevNumbers builds). They are almost identical to the official nightly builds. I also use CM7 on my G-Tablet. Know that Tablet tweaks was there, and that the Tablet tweaks option was there on my X, I just assumed (my bad) that the options were the same.
After your post, I double checked on my X and I get the same options as you.
Looks like button savior is the way to go.
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Lol so I'm not crazy? It would be nice if the CM7 team added those features to our x's. I just might go bug the CM7 team and see if I get a reply I can't imagine it would be difficult to add those options to the menu...
Sprint SGT + CM7 = AWESOMENESS!!!!
How does it work? Is it the same as in GB as holding down the home key?
I ask because I am interested in the Round once CM9 is released for it.
Yeah, hold down the home key and it comes up.
Is that the only way? Seems "slow" compared to just tapping an icon
Yeah, there is already been suggestions to make the search or menu button do that. I'm sure CM9 will eventually have options to configure that. I know CM7 has it.
I have not bought One S yet (not released here) and unless this one issue is cleared up, I might have to let go my favorite upcoming phone
As most of you know, HTC One series comes with 3 keys, back, home, task switch. I do not know what the heck were they thinking removing the menu button and replacing it with task-switcher.. (that should've been long press on home).
For some more info about the issue: http://bit.ly/zbi4Nl
So my question is this:
Will it be possible to do a remap? Can we get rid of ugly "legacy menu key-bar" on bottom of screen as well?
Is anything similar done before, if so, is it hardware hack, rom or app based?
Not exactly the same, but here's a mod remapping the search key on the Nexus S to recent apps.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1448576
So this looks like something that has been done through software on other phones.
Hmmm.. interesting. But would the legacy menu-bar get removed from screen once the keys are remapped? Is it something ICS does by itself or a "feature" of Sense 4?
It's ICS. My honeycomb tablet is the same way. You can pull up the menu in the notifications menu and access settings that way, and can add a shortcut on the screen if you want. I'm sure you can find a way to remap it but that's how they're all coming now, it's not an HTC thing by any means.
What a shame..why would u think all ics phones are like that. Hmm has to be something so look it up. And since this phone isnt released yet this question should not even be asked or yet for anyone here to know what works.
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Look at it this way, in 12 months time no one will need the menu key anymore as devs would re-design their apps where the menu will be on the action bar. Going forward the menu key is legacy and it is good that HTC is designing their new phones to follow the new design principles of Android
I'm sorry I just can't see how having less keys and everything jammed into onscreen menu is a good thing.
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Hey, it looks like this change was added to the Virtuous One S ROM
Remaped buttons (Long press Home -> Recent apps, Recent apps -> Menu) (Thanks lyapota)
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http://rootzwiki.com/topic/20859-rommar-24villes-seriesvirtuous-one-s-v120/
Wow.. thanks for heads up. Now i know its posssible, i might consider htc once more.
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I am so happy about this. Samsung was breaking my balls with this. Finally....
http://blogs.computerworld.com/android/23359/samsung-android-menu-button
Lol they can dump the rest of it......
why this good news i like the menu button
pnr2020 said:
why this good news i like the menu button
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The menu button is objectively... wrong!
The first relates to Samsung's decision to include the Menu button -- an element Google removed from the platform at the start of the 4.0 era. The old-style Menu button was eliminated for a specific reason: On button-free devices, a special onscreen icon signals the presence of functions related to the OS or to specific applications -- functions like accessing advanced settings in Gmail, requesting a desktop version of a website in Chrome, or viewing your list of installed apps in the Play Store. In Samsung's setup, there's nothing to let you know when those options are available unless you think to tap the Menu button at the right time.
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http://www.computerworld.com/s/arti...iew_A_real_world_evaluation?pageNumber=2#goto
http://blogs.computerworld.com/smartphones/22921/7-silly-things-galaxy-note-3#buttons
To bad I liked the button to
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jastonas said:
I am so happy about this. Samsung was breaking my balls with this. Finally....
http://blogs.computerworld.com/android/23359/samsung-android-menu-button
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Not too bothered about the menu button, although obviously best Samsung move with the design of android. Would have rather they had changed the physical home button to a capacitive one. Although I dont see them changing that one anytime soon, because if they do that they might as well use on screen buttons, which would mean a slight decrease in screen size and perhaps the loss of their identity (as it would resemble a nexus/other brand phone).
I like the menu/back and the physical home button is one of the reasons i like them
each to there own and all that crap.
After my beloved HTC Incredible S, I vowed never to get another HTC as they had removed the menu button, leaving just 2 buttons.
First the incredibly useful search button gets removed off Android, now this.
If I wanted pretty much no buttons I'd go for an iPhone. But I don't - I want easy control over my phone and not having to rely on the touchscreen for every single command! :crying:
Yea, there's nothing wrong with that button. I like it!
Hardware menu button is logical and very intuitive. Instead of search and explore sometimes awkward interface, i can press menu button and get menu. Also, not every app looks good with always visible menu button. I'm using 3rd party dialer where only dial keyboard and call log/contacts are visible. Where to put menu button? Make whole bar just for this button? It's lame! And there are many other apps where on-screen menu button will look like 5th leg for dog.
I like present Samsung button layout and would like to have it in the future phones.
they should 100 % keep menu button its just nice having physical button will really miss it
they should keep the physical button i have no problem with it
I love the menu button!
My old HTC One S had a recent apps button instead of menu. All EVERY custom ROM ever did was remap it to menu! What I hope sammy does is ditch the physical home button and go metal!!
Actual buttons setup is very good (only difference from nexus is menu button instead of multitasking button). But multitasking is already accessible through home button (like in ios) and menu button is smart (don't have to search for the 3 dots). Removing it is a bad move, samsung would ditch one of its best intuition.
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Menu button is definitely needed especially on big screens because on screen menu button is at the top! I hope it stays on the future galaxy phones.
gsmyth said:
Not too bothered about the menu button, although obviously best Samsung move with the design of android. Would have rather they had changed the physical home button to a capacitive one. Although I dont see them changing that one anytime soon, because if they do that they might as well use on screen buttons, which would mean a slight decrease in screen size and perhaps the loss of their identity (as it would resemble a nexus/other brand phone).
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Actually physical home button is one of my favourite features on Samsung phones. It just makes it so easy to wake up the phone (yes - i'm left handed, so power button on the right side is not very comfortable for me!), but also to answer a call. Especially when using gloves and/or S View pouch that i have.
I will be ditching Samsung next year when I am due for upgrade. They should ditch their crapwiz as well.
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I will be ditching Samsung next year when I am due for upgrade. They should ditch their crapwiz as well.
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Now that they are changing touchwiz?
First of all...f*ck you Samsung!
There, I got it out of my system now..
I knew android had this button since always and I always used it since my first smartphone, the Galaxy S I9000.
I find the fact that they'll change it a horrible idea!
I hope the S5, Note 4 etc will keep the current design...
Even if they don't though, you can remap any key if you've rooted your phone and I'll make it again an options menu even if the icon shows otherwise.
nfsmw_gr said:
First of all...f*ck you Samsung!
There, I got it out of my system now..
I knew android had this button since always and I always used it since my first smartphone, the Galaxy S I9000.
I find the fact that they'll change it a horrible idea!
I hope the S5, Note 4 etc will keep the current design...
Even if they don't though, you can remap any key if you've rooted your phone and I'll make it again an options menu even if the icon shows otherwise.
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Google forced the menu button to be inside apps so having a hardware menu button is redundant. I prefer the button too, blame Google... No more menu button, no external sdcard support for Nexus...
Enviado do meu Galaxy S4
Hi, i was wondering if you guys can help me remap my home touch buttons to work how they used to (on some devices). Ive tried to get used to how it is now but i just cant get comfortable. I checked another thread thats similar to what i want done but not quite exactly what i was looking for.
I use the back button, home button, and recent apps button. My goal is to long press the home button and have recent apps open and use the recent apps button as a general settings button (instead of having to long press the recent apps to get there). Im basically trying to acheive the LG Optimus G setup. Its a minor tweak and i'd enjoy the phone even more this way.
Any help would be greatly appreciated! If theres a thread that I missed that fits my needs plzz direct me to it! Thanks!