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I'm not the person that buys a new phone every 6 months. I'm probably going to use my Nexus S for 2 years or more. And because of that, I want it optimized so that I won't get jealous at those multi-core phones.
I can optimize the OS by just downloading something like Launcher Pro, but I want more. I like applications like Adfree and ShootMe, and VooDoo sound also looks very nice. But, I want more! Custom ROMs increase the speed, and then I could always overclock. So Cyanogen Mod 7 is also on my list.
But the problem is, I don't know where to start. There are SO MANY options in the world of Android. Of course, with some Googling I can find the best Custom ROM (CM7), but the internet isnt very clear about it all. I am an average user, so I don't want to much risks. I also don't understand 'geek language' (you know what I mean ), so these forums don't help me much either.
I know how to root (there are tons of youtube videos), and I can probably find a youtube video for installing CM7 as well, but like I said, I don't know where to start. Can somebody give me a push in the right direction? I hate to ask, but I couldn't find something like a noob guide...
Go to the android development section for nexus S and all topics are covered
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Go to the android development section for nexus S and all topics are covered
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Hmm I see you can root with or without fastboot oem unlock. I know fastboot oem unlock wipes all data, but if you do it when you get your phone, that isnt a problem. Is there any other (dis)advantage?
It seems there are a lot of methods to root. What is the best one (not the fastest)? I like the one from AllGamer, but it says 'via Clockwork Mod'. I don't know what that is, or what it does. I know I look like an idiot now, but I really can't find good explanations on the internet. Everyone supposes that you know a lot of stuff already.
Androyed said:
Hmm I see you can root with or without fastboot oem unlock. I know fastboot oem unlock wipes all data, but if you do it when you get your phone, that isnt a problem. Is there any other (dis)advantage?
It seems there are a lot of methods to root. What is the best one (not the fastest)? I like the one from AllGamer, but it says 'via Clockwork Mod'. I don't know what that is, or what it does. I know I look like an idiot now, but I really can't find good explanations on the internet. Everyone supposes that you know a lot of stuff already.
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All the guides get you to the same result: root and a custom recovery with the exception of distortedloop's guide which keeps the bootloader locked and avoids an initial wipe. If you read through each thread, you'll realize that they all do the same thing. Some just helps you avoid terminal work, which is as easy as retyping what you see. Just pick one and follow all the steps. No reported advantages or disadvantages to unlocking the bootloader other than the wipe you are aware of.
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Go to theunlockr.com It has alot of beginner friendly videos.
http://theunlockr.com/category/howto/android_how_tos/nexus-s-how-tos/
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Thanks, both of you!
Unlocking the bootloader is needed for flashing ROMs, right? If that's true, I think I'll unlock it right away when I don't have any data/apps installed. The only thing that will suck is the ugly padlock sign when you start your phone, but who starts his phone anway...
By the way, changes a unlocked bootloader anything else except for a slightly different boot animation?
Some other questions: will you get OTA updates from Google when you have root enabled? And what if you use a Custom ROM? And what if you use a Custom Kernel? And what if you use Clockworkmod (that is a custom recovery, right?)?
And where do you need a custom kernel for? Is it only to overclock your device? I saw it is also necessary for VooDoo sound, which I like very much. Same question about Clockworkmod: if it's a custom recovery, what does it do? Is it for back-up/rom switching?
Androyed said:
Thanks, both of you!
Unlocking the bootloader is needed for flashing ROMs, right? If that's true, I think I'll unlock it right away when I don't have any data/apps installed. The only thing that will suck is the ugly padlock sign when you start your phone, but who starts his phone anway...
By the way, changes a unlocked bootloader anything else except for a slightly different boot animation?
Some other questions: will you get OTA updates from Google when you have root enabled? And what if you use a Custom ROM? And what if you use a Custom Kernel? And what if you use Clockworkmod (that is a custom recovery, right?)?
And where do you need a custom kernel for? Is it only to overclock your device? I saw it is also necessary for VooDoo sound, which I like very much. Same question about Clockworkmod: if it's a custom recovery, what does it do? Is it for back-up/rom switching?
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Unlocking the bootloader is not required for flashing roms. On previous devices, it was necessary but we have a method in distortedloop's guide which can work around that.
You can still get OTA updates with root, however updating will cause you to lose root. Custom roms usually have a script to disable OTA updates. Kernels and custom recovery will not affect OTA updates.
Custom kernels are "custom" in itself and often offer more features such as the ability to overclock, file system hacks, as well as sound/graphic hacks which may not be included in a previous developer's custom rom. It leaves room for the user to pick what is suitable for him/her.
Custom recoveries are recoveries with extended features. These features may include the ability to backup/restore, wipe device between ROM builds, and more. Its main feature which I enjoy the most, is the ability to navigate between folders of your storage and choose a ZIP file to flash. Standard recovery requires anything flashed to be in the root of your storage as well as named "update.zip". Custom recoveries eliminates this requirement and lets you keep the name of your zip files as well as organize them in folders. There are more features, but that's up to you to discover and see what you'll actually use.
And again, thanks!
After reading the post above and an awesome explanation on a dutch forum, I now know what all those 'custom' things do.
First of all, I'm interested in root. There are some very useful applications that can only be used with root. After that, I'm going to flash a kernel (not overclock it), probably Netarchy's, for some speed improvement and most important of all, voodoo sound improvement! The last looks very promising.
If I'll get bored after that, (I probably tried out dozens of homescreen replacements and their themes by then), I'm going to flash a Custom ROM, and experiment with custom ROM themes. This is probably going to be Cyanogen Mod, but I'm going to wait till a stable release comes out for the Nexus S. If I'm still bored (we are probably talking about 1.5 years ahead), I'm going to overclock for optimal performance...
This is why I love Android. Why would you buy a new device every couple of months? There is so much to tweak! When I tried to find some information about flashing ROMs, I sure have learned how many possibilities Android has. It isn't easy for the average user, but if you get something awesome like voodoo sound in return, it is defenitely worth it!
Sorry, I got still two questions left:
Custom ROMs don't change anything from the outside, right? They are only deodexed? Or is there a difference between, let's say, MoDaCo's ROM and CM7, from the outside?
I heard some Custom ROMs have certain themes, but I suppose you could just as easy install the stock Gingerbread theme when for example MoDaCo ships with a different theme. Custom ROMs support themes after all.
Also, what is the difference between a theme from a homescreen replacement and a theme from a Custom ROM? Themes from Custom ROMs can change apps, because it is a deodexed ROM, so themes will probably also change the looks of the dialer for example. And themes from homescreen replacements will only change the homescreen. But will a theme from a homescreen replacement also change the notificationbar and the icons? Or do you have to install a Custom Rom for that?
Thanks in advance!
New root method is out for PRE and POST OTA, with insecure BOOT image and CWM recovery
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OK, noobie here,
Please be gentle, I don't have a tablet although by everything I've seen, the transformer will be the one for me. I've read over and over again how rooting your tablet is the best thing to do since bread slicers were invented.
Simple question though. What do I gain by rooting my Transformer ( when they actually ship it in North America ) ?
That's it,
Cheers,
gpearson1968
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OK, noobie here,
Please be gentle, I don't have a tablet although by everything I've seen, the transformer will be the one for me. I've read over and over again how rooting your tablet is the best thing to do since bread slicers were invented.
Simple question though. What do I gain by rooting my Transformer ( when they actually ship it in North America ) ?
That's it,
Cheers,
gpearson1968
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You will be able to configure parts of the computer such as the processor etc that normally is not available to the user. You will be able to install custom ROMs which are different versions of the software included but will often be better than the original. As I mentioned earlier it will also (at some stage) allow you to change CPU settings so save battery or to gain maximum performance!
Hope this answers your questions, if you've got any more then fire away, thats why we're all here!
OK, cool, thanks for the invite.
Next question. If I root my Transformer, and ASUS puts out another version of their "ROM", will I be able to use the ASUS "ROM" ? Or once I root, I cannot go back ?
I obviously don't have a preference since I don't have a tablet yet. I've read how everyone loves the ROMS that out there ( Cyanogen, Vegan, TNT..... ) especially for the G-tab. I love overclockin, especially if you can notice the difference in apps like video playback and such.
For me, modding my soon-to-hold transformer isn't a done deal unless I know that whatever mod I do will enhance what I have, rather than simply replacing what I have. Does that make sense ?
So rooting will allow me to install different mods, and to get access at a deeper level to some of the inner gizzards of the tablet. Very cool.
Anything else it gives me ?
Cheers,
gpearson1968
Congratulations on making it and releasing to the community.
Don't know if this will affect your root method or not but there's supposedly a firmware update out from Asus tomorrow.
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OK, cool, thanks for the invite.
Next question. If I root my Transformer, and ASUS puts out another version of their "ROM", will I be able to use the ASUS "ROM" ? Or once I root, I cannot go back ?
I obviously don't have a preference since I don't have a tablet yet. I've read how everyone loves the ROMS that out there ( Cyanogen, Vegan, TNT..... ) especially for the G-tab. I love overclockin, especially if you can notice the difference in apps like video playback and such.
For me, modding my soon-to-hold transformer isn't a done deal unless I know that whatever mod I do will enhance what I have, rather than simply replacing what I have. Does that make sense ?
So rooting will allow me to install different mods, and to get access at a deeper level to some of the inner gizzards of the tablet. Very cool.
Anything else it gives me ?
Cheers,
gpearson1968
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To answer your question about going back, as long as you do a backup in the recovery it installs you can always go back to stock. You can even unroot it if you want!
So far there are no replacement ROMs out there yet, but Paul from Modaco has released his add on pack which boosts performance and a couple of other bits and pieces and does not affect the user interface so its a good one to try if you just want performance.
Lots of other things and benefits will pop up as time goes on, only a few (very lucky!!!) people have the tablet so far!
Thanks - that worked perfectly! - Now to look at overclocking
This didn't seem to work for me, I could boot into Recovery and perform nandroid backup etc but when I rebooted I ddn't appear to have root.
I have since flashed MCR Beta though so I am happy enough with that.
Cheers for giving us root.
Roach2010 said:
This didn't seem to work for me, I could boot into Recovery and perform nandroid backup etc but when I rebooted I ddn't appear to have root.
I have since flashed MCR Beta though so I am happy enough with that.
Cheers for giving us root.
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Thus you have root
Will this work after the official 15/04 update has been applied?
I keep getting the android with the triangle above his head.
RedMist said:
Will this work after the official 15/04 update has been applied?
I keep getting the android with the triangle above his head.
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No it wont You'll need to wait for root to be regained.
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No it wont You'll need to wait for root to be regained.
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Forgive my simple question: is it possible to sideload apps without root? I gather there's another OTA due on April 28 and may try that before rooting. Would however like to install a couple of apps bought for my G-Tab.
rumors are saying now to root after the 4/14/11 update is ran. so just root it before u connect it to the internet and u can flash my rom and ill make a odexed version tonight after running some opts and go from there.
this devise i will be keeping to stock but will update new apps as needed once i get a new tablet next week.
New root method found will be out ~30th (to avoid the next OTA)
This allows custom recovery + boot image being flashed to the device
So all you US users can relax
I still do not have a device tho
PS.
This method is a team effort so credit is split
Apache14 said:
New root method found will be out ~30th (to avoid the next OTA)
This allows custom recovery + boot image being flashed to the device
So all you US users can relax
I still do not have a device tho
PS.
This method is a team effort so credit is split
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Now that's good news. Any advances on getting nvflash working?
Apache14 said:
New root method found will be out ~30th (to avoid the next OTA)
This allows custom recovery + boot image being flashed to the device
So all you US users can relax
I still do not have a device tho
PS.
This method is a team effort so credit is split
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Italian Transformer here and now I discovered another update, the second form me since the day-one. Can I update or not?
Thanks
Apache14 said:
New root method found will be out ~30th (to avoid the next OTA)
This allows custom recovery + boot image being flashed to the device
So all you US users can relax
I still do not have a device tho
PS.
This method is a team effort so credit is split
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good stuff!
I'm probably getting one of these in a month or so and was worried about this
Just got my TF and attempted to Root. I press volume up as soon as prompted...
But, then it freezes at "Booting recovery kernel image"
Running "WW_epad-8.2.3.6-20110414"
Guessing it updated somehow without my knowing as the first time it booted it was running a 03/11 build....
I saw a reference to a 04-15 build... Could that really have been the 04-14 build? Is that why it isn't booting the recovery on my sdcard?
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Disregard: I read on the MoDaCo forum that it won't work with the 04/14 build. :-( DAMN!
New Root Method In First Post
now I'm familiar with ADB after messing around with my HTC hero in the past but what is an insecure boot image?
Hey fellas, I got my Verizon GS3 last Thursday knowing that it had a locked bootloader but was hoping someone would figure out how to get root. Now I see that it has been rooted but is it "completely" rooted? What I mean is, can I overclock it, flash kernals, custom roms, wifi tether? Does it have the same capabilities of all three of the other US carriers' GS3s? Is Cyanogenmod developing CM9 for it yet? I was reading somewhere that you can root it just like any other version but it's just a bigger pain in the ass. I just want to make sure that my Verizon GS3 can be completely rooted so I can do everything I did with my old Droid. Should I just take it back and go with the Sprint version of the GS3? Im sorry if some of these are "noob" questions but I just want to figure out what I should do. Any help would be much appreciated!
Rooting and the other things you spoke of are not the same thing.
Rooting = The ability to write to the system partition, while booted into android. This allows you to delete system files (such as bloatware).
Locked Boot Loader = You will not be able to flash custom files (unsigned) to the phone from Odin. This means no clockwork recovery, roms, kernels ect....
There are ways around some of the locked boot loader stuff on some phones (ex. droid 2 got a special recovery through months of dev work. This did not cicrumvent the locked boot loader, but allowed away around it). This type of recovery (2nd init) is not avalible for Samsung phones.
If you want roms and all access, I would go with the dev unit samsung is selling for verizon. However, there still may not be much for the VZW gs3 because they wont sell tons of the dev units at $600 a pop.
The Verizon S3 already has root, roms and kernels up and working and some really good devs trying to crack it. I have a VG3 and it was rooted in less than a day and I'm having no issues. It's a great phone but the locked bootloader may cause issue in the future.
If I knew that samsung was going to release a dev version I may not have pre-ordered my S3 but I"m still happy with my purchase so far. What I find amusing is the price stated on the dev phone right now is cheaper than buying the phone outright from big V right now. We will see what the price really is when the phone is made available.
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The Verizon S3 already has root, roms and kernels up and working and some really good devs trying to crack it. I have a VG3 and it was rooted in less than a day and I'm having no issues. It's a great phone but the locked bootloader may cause issue in the future.
If I knew that samsung was going to release a dev version I may not have pre-ordered my S3 but I"m still happy with my purchase so far. What I find amusing is the price stated on the dev phone right now is cheaper than buying the phone outright from big V right now. We will see what the price really is when the phone is made available.
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I second this post!
locked bootloader means no custom roms or kernels.
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locked bootloader means no custom roms or kernels.
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Not true.
Touchwiz based custom roms are entirely possible and it has already been shown custom kernels work using kexec. Yeah it's not as good as an unlocked bootloader but we have our work arounds until these crazy smart devs figure out how to bypass the locked bootloader.
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tanman21 said:
Rooting and the other things you spoke of are not the same thing.
Rooting = The ability to write to the system partition, while booted into android. This allows you to delete system files (such as bloatware).
Locked Boot Loader = You will not be able to flash custom files (unsigned) to the phone from Odin. This means no clockwork recovery, roms, kernels ect....
There are ways around some of the locked boot loader stuff on some phones (ex. droid 2 got a special recovery through months of dev work. This did not cicrumvent the locked boot loader, but allowed away around it). This type of recovery (2nd init) is not avalible for Samsung phones.
If you want roms and all access, I would go with the dev unit samsung is selling for verizon. However, there still may not be much for the VZW gs3 because they wont sell tons of the dev units at $600 a pop.
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Thanks for the reply man! The dev phone just may be an option but I really don't feel like forking over $600 when I can go to Sprint on a cheaper plan and have an unlocked bootloader....either way, I have 10 more days to return my phone and cancel my contract if I need to. And btw, I sent a long email to Verizon asking them if they will ever unlock the bootloader ( I read an article saying they may, then today read a article saying they wont. We'll see.) I also said that I may just cancel my contract and go to Sprint and ask them how they can "help" relieve this situation that alot of people are facing. I'll report back and let everyone know what their response is.
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Hey fellas, I got my Verizon GS3 last Thursday knowing that it had a locked bootloader but was hoping someone would figure out how to get root. Now I see that it has been rooted but is it "completely" rooted? What I mean is, can I overclock it, flash kernals, custom roms, wifi tether? Does it have the same capabilities of all three of the other US carriers' GS3s? Is Cyanogenmod developing CM9 for it yet? I was reading somewhere that you can root it just like any other version but it's just a bigger pain in the ass. I just want to make sure that my Verizon GS3 can be completely rooted so I can do everything I did with my old Droid. Should I just take it back and go with the Sprint version of the GS3? Im sorry if some of these are "noob" questions but I just want to figure out what I should do. Any help would be much appreciated!
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There's some erroneous replies so far, hopefully this will clear it up for you. Root or superuser, is a linux term, which basically provides you with admin rights. With root alone you can run WiFi tether, rename system apps, etc. Root is easily attainable on the Verizon S3, see the dev section for guides.
The S3 recovery partition is NOT signed. This allows us to install custom recoveries (i.e. ClockworkMod, TWRP, etc.) This is very different from say, a Moto phone that had to use bootstrap methods. The S3 can have a fully functioning recovery that will allow you to do backups, flash ROMs and Kernels, etc. Again, very easy to do, see dev section for guides (it's grouped with root).
What's currently being worked on is the "locked" bootloader. Basically we can write whatever we want to the various partitions, however, there is a security check being done that prevents altering various areas, like the boot.img. Right now there is a workaround where custom Kernels are flashed via the recovery partition (see recovery/kexec threads for more info).
There is no official CM9 or CM10 builds yet, but they are being worked on and there are bootable versions of both. Right now the RIL is the bigger issue as it's preventing data but that has nothing to do with the bootloader. The RIL is being worked on, no ETA.
tl;dr - The bootloader is still "locked" but there are already various workaround methods in place to allow for the flashing of custom recoveries, ROMs, Kernels, etc. Reading the guides in the dev section would be a great place to start understanding what's going on better.
s197 said:
There's some erroneous replies so far, hopefully this will clear it up for you. Root or superuser, is a linux term, which basically provides you with admin rights. With root alone you can run WiFi tether, rename system apps, etc. Root is easily attainable on the Verizon S3, see the dev section for guides.
The S3 recovery partition is NOT signed. This allows us to install custom recoveries (i.e. ClockworkMod, TWRP, etc.) This is very different from say, a Moto phone that had to use bootstrap methods. The S3 can have a fully functioning recovery that will allow you to do backups, flash ROMs and Kernels, etc. Again, very easy to do, see dev section for guides (it's grouped with root).
What's currently being worked on is the "locked" bootloader. Basically we can write whatever we want to the various partitions, however, there is a security check being done that prevents altering various areas, like the boot.img. Right now there is a workaround where custom Kernels are flashed via the recovery partition (see recovery/kexec threads for more info).
There is no official CM9 or CM10 builds yet, but they are being worked on and there are bootable versions of both. Right now the RIL is the bigger issue as it's preventing data but that has nothing to do with the bootloader. The RIL is being worked on, no ETA.
tl;dr - The bootloader is still "locked" but there are already various workaround methods in place to allow for the flashing of custom recoveries, ROMs, Kernels, etc. Reading the guides in the dev section would be a great place to start understanding what's going on better.
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This explains things alot better for me Thank you!!!. Im coming from a OG Droid that I rooted as soon as I got it so its been a while since I've been on the scene. I've kept up with the OG Droid Development for quite some time (which is basically nonexistent) so Im somewhat familiar with rooting and such just not familiar with this lock bootloader and such on my S3. Anyways, I still may just go to Sprint but havent made my mind up yet. And THANKS again for the very knowledgeable answer!
I am a noobie to all that is Android... I am usually on an iPhone/iPod, but I decided for my upgrade why downgrade to the iPhone 5 when I could get the SGIII?
So, anyways... I am new to rooting and how to add anything on it after the root is done... and I need some help...
I have my SGIII rooted and all and it has been sweet. However, I do not want to add a custom ROM because of the loss of certain features on the device and a higher risk of brick.
I have to ask... Am I able to theme the stock touchwiz ROM differently without a big risk of brick? Or can I at all?
And, with the SGIII being on verizon... my notification toggles do not include a WiFi toggle! I want one on there, and I am not sure how to add it...
Here is a link to a thread about one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1775235
I am running Jelly Bean 4.1.1.
Help?
First, congrats on getting the s3! It's an amazing device and definitely an upgrade.
What do you mean by losing features by flashing a custom ROM? If anything, you would gain features. I would recommend flashing CleanROM, it's basically the way your phone is now with a bunch of bloatware removed (and it has a WiFi toggle, and others which are customizable) for better performance and battery life. I know you said you don't really want to, but if you read and follow instructions, you'll be perfectly fine. Besides, it's what having an android is all about!
As for that WiFi toggle mod, you would simply download it, reboot into recovery, and flash it. Just don't flash anything not meant for the i535! That's how you end up with a paper weight.
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I was referring to some of the Samsung features that you would lose when switching to a new ROM. I thought I read that you lose some...
I may look into putting a ROM onto it... I just am sketchy on having myself a brick... I have the extended insurance and all, I just dont want to ruin it so soon since I just got it.
How about themes though? Can I theme the stock ROM?
You can change the icons, if that's what you mean. Check out an app called desktop visualizer.
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Basically the only ways you brick the phone is of you flash an international ROM. The other potential way to brick is a power outage if you are flashing with Odin and the primary or secondary boot loader are in the process of being flashed.
If you are going to flash anything, back up your imei following the sticky thread
If you get the "unauthorized software return to Verizon message" don't panic. Odin can bring you back.
Its hard but not impossible to brick this phone. If you take your time, read, and always verify that the file you are going to flash is for the i535 it is very hard to brick.
Rooting essentially means you have administer rights. It doesn't come with any cydia equivalent as (almost) all apps that use root are in the play store.
My current favorite ROM is carbon rom which brings all the android 4.2.1 features to the table including group SMS (finally), lock screen widgets, and enhanced Google now. You will lose some touchwiz features though many can be replicated with 3rd party play store apps.
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Hmm, can anyone toss me a few of the most stable/featured ROMs for the i535 in comparison to stock?
I had told myself that I wasnt going to risk it, but I think you have me convinced... Cause I do want to get different with it...
Which is why I was looking for full themes for the stock ROM.
You must be talking about the TouchWiz features like smart stay, s beam, TW camera...etc. As long as you flash a TouchWiz ROM, you shouldn't lose those features. You would lose those features if you flashed an AOSP ROM (which is what you see on devices like the Galaxy Nexus or Nexus 4).
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Those were what I were referring to, yeah...
and, anyone think they can toss me a few of the most stable/featured ROMs for the i535?
about roms and your choices.
good info
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1950824&highlight=guide
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tylerisbudded said:
Those were what I were referring to, yeah...
and, anyone think they can toss me a few of the most stable/featured ROMs for the i535?
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synergy, beans galaxy mod, almost all others in the development section
read and see what suirs your needs
Clean ROM and csrom are probably closest to stock. Galaxy mod and syngergy get good reviews it seems if you want something a bit different.
Kindacrapmods is neat too to give touch wiz Roms an aosp appearance if you prefer.
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Anyone care to add to skype or anything of the sort so that I may be easily guided? I would highly appreciate the assistance.
And my GSIII is currently rooted with quite a bit of photos, contact, and personal data... Should I worry about getting that information off before flashing a new ROM?
Plus, say that I were to put a ICS ROM rather than the 4.1.1 JB I have right now... or even a 4.2 JB ROM would I just flash it like normal as if I were rooting my device for the first time?
Welcome to Android, where you are "free!," lol.
You should always have backup of files, photos, apps + data, personal data, documents, etc on your external sd, computer, cloud, etc. Also making a Nandroid Backup would be highly advisable before you flash anything.
Flashing between roms usually just wipe data, cache, dalvik cache, (I wipe system as well to be sure a cleaner start). Someone correct me if that is not the case. I remember on Fsacinate, it was somewhat a pain going from major version jump.
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Anyone care to add to skype or anything of the sort so that I may be easily guided? I would highly appreciate the assistance.
And my GSIII is currently rooted with quite a bit of photos, contact, and personal data... Should I worry about getting that information off before flashing a new ROM?
Plus, say that I were to put a ICS ROM rather than the 4.1.1 JB I have right now... or even a 4.2 JB ROM would I just flash it like normal as if I were rooting my device for the first time?
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I don't see why you would go back to ICS lol. Definitely do a nandroid backup before each new ROM flash, there's always a chance something could go wrong. It's always good to backup your media, but if you do everything correctly, then your media won't be touched.
If you flash a 4.2 ROM for the first time, your SD card is basically going to be moved into a new folder called "0" and you may panic... lol. It's supposed to happen though, it had to with the multiuser feature (which is only present on tablets).
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Check out App2Zip also. It'll create a flashable .zip file of your apps that you can flash after flashing the ROM. I've never been a big fan of TiBu, but App2Zip does a good job. The biggest hassle about flashing brand new ROMs is getting your setup back to how you had it, but that only takes 10 - 30 minutes and is well worth the added functionality. I personally love having native USB tethering and WiFi hotspot. Also much faster performance on many ROMs as well. I personally LOVE the Darthstalker ROM, it's farther away from your stock JB experience, but one of the fastest ROMs out there, especially on top of a kernel like galaxy KOR. But you can get into flashing kernels after you have some ROM experience ;] (it's actually a lot easier). Just ALWAYS make a backup with ClockworkMod or TW first! Preferably to an external card. Then if something messes up you can just recover to your backup and have everything back to normal, it's literally a time machine for your phone. There are a lot of great support threads here. I almost bricked my phone the first time I tried to root it, but you're already past that part so flashing ROMs and kernels are much easier. Have fun!
If you flash Synergy it will back up your IMEI for you automatically. Just copy that backup to you extSdCard and you will always have it. For getting your feet wet with android and from you've posted so far just stay away from AOSP for now and you will be fine and you will be amazed at the control/options you have now.
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If you don't want to flash the entire Synergy ROM you can use this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30679476&postcount=5732
I originally rooted my device without unlocking my bootloader because I didnt see myself putting a custom ROM on my device...
Is there anything special I would do to go about putting a ROM on it now? Or would I just go through the rooting process as I did before, but just unlock my bootloader this time?
tylerisbudded said:
I originally rooted my device without unlocking my bootloader because I didnt see myself putting a custom ROM on my device...
Is there anything special I would do to go about putting a ROM on it now? Or would I just go through the rooting process as I did before, but just unlock my bootloader this time?
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You're already rooted so don't worry about doing that again, but you need to unlock the boot loader. Look for an app called EZ unlock somewhere on here or RootzWiki (use version 1.2 since the newer one had a problem I believe). It's as simple as clicking unlock, then you're good.
Edit: Here it is http://rootzwiki.com/index.php?/top...-1.4---Easiest-way-to-unlock-your-bootloader!
Woops, guy below found it first
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tylerisbudded said:
I originally rooted my device without unlocking my bootloader because I didnt see myself putting a custom ROM on my device...
Is there anything special I would do to go about putting a ROM on it now? Or would I just go through the rooting process as I did before, but just unlock my bootloader this time?
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To unlock bootloader use this http://rootzwiki.com/topic/32456-app-920-ez-unlock-14-easiest-way-to-unlock-your-bootloader/
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Thanks for the help! I actually just figured it out right before you guys posted.
I have CleanROM put on it right now, I am looking to add some MODs now though I think...
I want to keep TW and its standard features... but I also want to get creative with it...
Since I now have deodex I should be able to still add some cool MODs now right?
Oh, and how stable are launchers? If I were to get Apex launcher and assign it to my home key would there be any issues at any time with that and my original home?
Hello,
I am very new to the rooting community, I am above average as a computer user, but mobile programming/rooting is an uncharted territory for me-please forgive the simple nature of this post.
I have a Huawei H892L Raven LTE phone.
I got this phone for cheap, so I didnt mind experimenting with rooting (as a novice) with it because if i bricked it I could just go back to my S4 or note 3.
anyways I have looked all around, looked at other threads, watched videos and most of what I saw was kind of vague. i have grasped the basic concept (i think..) of rooting but some areas are still unclear.
1. I rooted my phone and now I want to make sure I have a backup of it before i proceed with doing much else with it. I have downloaded CWM recovery and some other recovery tools in hope to make a backup of my device. But most of them require premium accounts to make backup from what i can gather.
Using an app called ROM tool box lite > Rom Installer >I see the options to Backup current ROM, Backup Recovery, and Backup Kernel..
Now do I want to make a "backup of my current Rom"? Would this option backup the stock H89RL Raven LTE image that is currently on the phone? or is this feature mean it is used to backup a custom rom that say i downloaded, used on my phone, maybe tweeked a little bit and wanted to back up?"
or when I am backing up my Raven H892L stock image should i use the "Backup recovery" and "backup kernel" options? I used both of these, but I am not sure if those options will suffice as properly and safely giving me reassurance that if i mess up anything i can recover the original format of the phone.
sooo.. what exactly do I need to use and what steps do i need to take to reassure I can play with new root and be able to fix it should i mess up? what file format are proper backups of my phones current settings... .img? and what steps would I take to recovery the old image of the phone?
2. I also need some clarification about SuperUser and SuperSU apps. I used kingoroot and it installed kingo superuser on my phone. Which is the preferred superuser app I should use? if i delete the kingo superuser app will it take away my ability to easily unroot my phone via pc the same way i rooted it? (there is an option on kingoroot when i plug my phone into my computer to unroot) the only reason i kept Kingoroots superuse over superuserSU is because I wanted to make sure I could unroot. what exaclty is the purpose of these apps? to delegate permissions? or is there other uses for them?
3. custom roms- I want to put a custom rom on my phone. i do not see any custom roms for my specific mobile device, (obviously because many people do not have this device, i really didnt expect there to be) Is there, for a lack of better words a "universal," or a custom rom I could use that would be compatible with my device? Are most ROMS used for android not device specific. (Im really sorry if thats a really stupid question.) I dont really understand this. is there a custom rom you would suggest me using?
4. What are some useful tools or cool things that I can do with my newly rooted device? any suggestions? what are your favorite things to do with a rooted device? Am i kind of out of luck because of the specific device I have not being so popular? I'm being a huge newb here but I thought I would give this forum a try.
I really really appreciate you taking the time to read all that if you did!
Hello,
Welcome to XDA.
Ok, first, as far as I know you cannot make a backup without custom recovery. I have searched for a custom recovery for you but I did not find one anywhere in XDA or Google.
You will have to find a custom recovery(CWM or TWRP) for Huawei H892L if it exists anywhere and install it however the guide you find it in says to install it, the method used will depend on what file format your recovery file is, the method also varies from device brand to device brand. Recoveries are very specific things, the recovery for one device brand/model number does not work on another device brand/model number, sometimes recoveries can be shared by devices that are virtually identical in hardware/software but more than most of the time trying a recovery for one device on another results in a bricked device similar to flashing the wrong BIOS on a PC.
As for the superuser, superSU and kinguser, if you have Kinguser I recommend you use the supersume app from the playstore to switch to superSU, it does it for you. If at some point you choose to unroot, there is an option in the superSU app settings that lets you unroot and uninstall superSU and root is completely gone.
Custom ROMs are flashed in custom recovery, for copyright and trademark reasons most custom ROMs have to be flashed along with a compatible Google apps package, referred to as Gapps. They both come in .zip format. The Android version of your ROM and Gapps have to match, 4.4/4.4, 5.0/5.0, 5.1/5.1 etc.. The custom ROMs are also device brand/model specific and also can't be shared. No, there is no "universal" android ROM. You are correct that your device is not popular so you most likely won't find anything as far as custom ROMs and recoveries. You would have been better off rooting and customizing your S4(depending on your model number) or your Note 3, there is plenty available and they are actually much easier devices to work with, I love my Samsung devices, they are easily rooted and usually easy to fix if a modification goes wrong, the device you have will easily get messed up and would likely be almost impossible to fix.
Root gives you control over everything about the device, you can modify any and every part of your systems software to look and function how you choose it to do, you can even modify the apps you install or even add features that it didn't have before as long as your hardware supports it, for example my Straight talk S3 supports Hotspot and tether even though it didn't come with it, and that's just the least of the mods my device has.
For more answers to your questions you can post in the thread linked below, there are many knowledgeable members in that thread, including myself.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2257421
Good luck in your journey, if you choose to customize one of your Samsung devices(which i personally recommend for someone new to this because they are easy to repair), they are virtually impossible to brick beyond repair unless you just completely lose your head and use something meant for another device and 95% of the time even that is fixable.
thank you so
Droidriven said:
Hello,
Welcome to XDA.
Ok, first, as far as I know you cannot make a backup without custom recovery. I have searched for a custom recovery for you but I did not find one anywhere in XDA or Google.
You will have to find a custom recovery(CWM or TWRP) for Huawei H892L if it exists anywhere and install it however the guide you find it in says to install it, the method used will depend on what file format your recovery file is, the method also varies from device brand to device brand. Recoveries are very specific things, the recovery for one device brand/model number does not work on another device brand/model number, sometimes recoveries can be shared by devices that are virtually identical in hardware/software but more than most of the time trying a recovery for one device on another results in a bricked device similar to flashing the wrong BIOS on a PC.
As for the superuser, superSU and kinguser, if you have Kinguser I recommend you use the supersume app from the playstore to switch to superSU, it does it for you. If at some point you choose to unroot, there is an option in the superSU app settings that lets you unroot and uninstall superSU and root is completely gone.
Custom ROMs are flashed in custom recovery, for copyright and trademark reasons most custom ROMs have to be flashed along with a compatible Google apps package, referred to as Gapps. They both come in .zip format. The Android version of your ROM and Gapps have to match, 4.4/4.4, 5.0/5.0, 5.1/5.1 etc.. The custom ROMs are also device brand/model specific and also can't be shared. No, there is no "universal" android ROM. You are correct that your device is not popular so you most likely won't find anything as far as custom ROMs and recoveries. You would have been better off rooting and customizing your S4(depending on your model number) or your Note 3, there is plenty available and they are actually much easier devices to work with, I love my Samsung devices, they are easily rooted and usually easy to fix if a modification goes wrong, the device you have will easily get messed up and would likely be almost impossible to fix.
Root gives you control over everything about the device, you can modify any and every part of your systems software to look and function how you choose it to do, you can even modify the apps you install or even add features that it didn't have before as long as your hardware supports it, for example my Straight talk S3 supports Hotspot and tether even though it didn't come with it, and that's just the least of the mods my device has.
For more answers to your questions you can post in the thread linked below, there are many knowledgeable members in that thread, including myself.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2257421
Good luck in your journey, if you choose to customize one of your Samsung devices(which i personally recommend for someone new to this because they are easy to repair), they are virtually impossible to brick beyond repair unless you just completely lose your head and use something meant for another device and 95% of the time even that is fixable.
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I really appreciate you taking the time to reply to my questions, and so thoroughly too! And that sounds like a good idea, I am going to just root my S4 and use that for a beginners root device. Nice to know it will be hard to mess that up. so i will download supersume and switch over to superSU automatically.. I also have straight talk, is it really possible to make my s4 a hotspot?? i heard something about that, but also heard something about straight talk being fussy about it? is there a way they would even know, by analyzing data intake maybe? idk where i heard that from. but Anyways. thanks for all the info. I think I will stick around in these forums and gather information and maybe ask for help if I need it.
Have a good night
k
kwotkwot said:
I really appreciate you taking the time to reply to my questions, and so thoroughly too! And that sounds like a good idea, I am going to just root my S4 and use that for a beginners root device. Nice to know it will be hard to mess that up. so i will download supersume and switch over to superSU automatically.. I also have straight talk, is it really possible to make my s4 a hotspot?? i heard something about that, but also heard something about straight talk being fussy about it? is there a way they would even know, by analyzing data intake maybe? idk where i heard that from. but Anyways. thanks for all the info. I think I will stick around in these forums and gather information and maybe ask for help if I need it.
Have a good night
k
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As long as your S4 doesn't have a locked bootloader you should be fine, if its locked then you'll likely brick it trying anything, post me your model numbers for both the S4 and the Note 3 and I'll see what is out there before you do anything.
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The note is in my storage two hours away. it also has a crack on the screen so will hold off on that.
But the s4 model number is SCH-I545
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kwotkwot said:
The note is in my storage two hours away. it also has a crack on the screen so will hold off on that.
But the s4 model number is SCH-I545
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Yeah, the i545 is one that is a pain, what firmware version does it have? Is it easy to get to? If it's one of the versions with locked bootloader you can root it possibly but custom recovery and custom ROMs is absolutely out of the question. With locked bootloader you'll be stuck with using Safestrap and modified stock ROMs.
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Android version 5.0.2
Secure boot status says type; samsung
How exactly do you check the firmware, I was under the impression that is was Android version.
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I also have a Motorola droid razr Android version 4.1.2 may be worth considering. I'll do some investigating on whether I can root it. Thanks for conversing with me, I am starting my second degree in the spring. I will be taking computer programming, and i Can't wait to get to the mobile side of the curriculum. Hopefully I will be ahead of the game by then XD
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kwotkwot said:
Android version 5.0.2
Secure boot status says type; samsung
How exactly do you check the firmware, I was under the impression that is was Android version.
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Are you sure this isn't 5.0.1? i'm finding i545 root for 5.0.1 but no 5.0.2.
The thread below is root for 5.0.2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-verizon/general/rooted-galaxy-s4-t3158098
you"ll have to ask about the bootloader and whether or not you have to use custom recovery(CWM, TWRP) or Safestrap in the i545 forum linked below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-verizon/help
Be careful, I have tried to repair an i545 that had been flashed with TWRP over the locked bootloader, there is no saving it if this is done, be certain of what you have before you do anything, either way isn't too difficult you just have to be sure of which way you have to go.
Exactly which razr model number do you have?
It is 5.0.1 my fault! I was looking right at it too. So the secure boot status=Samsung means the boot loader is definately locked?
On The Razr i have I can't read the model number its scratched on the back..any way to tell via the settings? Maybe xt912? Its not the RAZR max...idk I can't make it out. In the settings it says
Mod number= Droid Razr
Android version = 4.1.2
Baseband version CDMA_N_05.21.00RLTEDC_U_09_.1D.00
Build number 9.8.20-72_VZW-16
Sorry for the questions.
I think this phone is rootable. Def needs a new screen. BTW I'm in NC too. Kitty Hawk NC on the beach
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correction it is 5.0.1
okay MOTXT912W is the model number. i just ordered a replacement screen for it, maybe ill make this badboy my new phone if a root is possible.
Im stressed out thinking about my note 3.. i really hope its in storage, the more i think about it the more I wonder if it got thrown out by my gf bc the screen was trashed.
sure hope not i miss that thing. but im going back to my storage unit maybe this week ill rummage through and see if i can find it.
surely one of my many phones can accept custom roms!
kwotkwot said:
It is 5.0.1 my fault! I was looking right at it too. So the secure boot status=Samsung means the boot loader is definately locked?
On The Razr i have I can't read the model number its scratched on the back..any way to tell via the settings? Maybe xt912? Its not the RAZR max...idk I can't make it out. In the settings it says
Mod number= Droid Razr
Android version = 4.1.2
Baseband version CDMA_N_05.21.00RLTEDC_U_09_.1D.00
Build number 9.8.20-72_VZW-16
Sorry for the questions.
I think this phone is rootable. Def needs a new screen. BTW I'm in NC too. Kitty Hawk NC on the beach
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OK, I'll check the moto out by the specs you listed.
I've never been to Kitty Hawk. I always wanted to go and see where flight was born.
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The ordered a new digitizer\glass\blackframe and an eb20 battery too for the xt912 Razr.. But I'm thinking about doing the RAZR maxx conversion and putting an Eb40 battery on it. I know someone named wando Did it on these forums, exciting stuff.
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Yeah I actually went to first flight highschool. You should visit its nice even in the winter!
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kwotkwot said:
The ordered a new digitizer\glass\blackframe and an eb20 battery too for the xt912 Razr.. But I'm thinking about doing the RAZR maxx conversion and putting an Eb40 battery on it. I know someone named wando Did it on these forums, exciting stuff.
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I've never had a RAZR, never heard of that mod.
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Basically taking the RAZR Maxx battery (3300 mAh, eb40) and replacing the regular RAZR xt912 battery (1900 mAh eb20) with it. Making it essentially a RAZR max
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