Is the HTC sensation a better device in terms of support?
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The Sensation has been out and running for a while now and has seen It's share of updates, so I think, and this is just my opinion that the Sensation won't be getting *much more attention after ICS.
Whether HTC decides to take the DoubleShot to ICS or stall It's ota update once again, these very talented devs here should and will make this a fun phone
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short answer: yes.
long answer: no, both suck when compared to other popular phones. They didn't even get cm7 beyond some early alphas not really suitable for daily usage.
you may want to look elsewhere if you wanna have an active development community (hint: sgs2)
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short answer: yes.
long answer: no, both suck when compared to other popular phones. They didn't even get cm7 beyond some early alphas not really suitable for daily usage.
you may want to look elsewhere if you wanna have an active development community (hint: sgs2)
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Started to....but didnt want the hassle
But it is the users like you who halt development, I've noticed more so of people just wanting to give up all together because a device don't "officially" get this or that, hell I remember when the Speedy had no CM love, then toast comes along and builds it from ground up (basically) and BAM official CM support! Or when the shifts update was only to Sense 2.1 and we managed to squeeze Sense 3.0 into it....or my favorite when the EVO GB update still left them with Sense 1.0 and they were actually able to use the Shifts parts to upgrade their UI version. There are tons of things, really good things that can be done with Android and all it takes is someone NOT giving up...there will always be a workaround we just got to find it
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But it is the users like you who halt development
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say what? i'm just telling the truth here. do i have to deceive people into buying our phone just to hope they would get involved in development later? sorry that's not like me.
Braccozz I appreciate your honesty your in no way haulting the productivity of this phone you just speack the trueth..... But I honestly don't want a Samsung and I love my mytouch running primadonna I was just offered a brand new HTC sensation for 230 and wonder if I should indulge in that offer ;D
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Braccozz I appreciate your honesty your in no way haulting the productivity of this phone you just speack the trueth..... But I honestly don't want a Samsung and I love my mytouch running primadonna I was just offered a brand new HTC sensation for 230 and wonder if I should indulge in that offer ;D
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Slide is still worth more...
When quad core phones start rolling, prices on these dual cores will drop like rocks. And the single core snapdragons and scorpions will become the best bargain since the $99 touchpad Honestly, there was no real need for me to jump from the G2 to the Doubleshot. But I wanted the extra beef under the hood. Lol, and the resale value.
I don't understand how people can compare QWERTYs and non QWERTYs. It's like apples to oranges. I would never "upgrade" to a Sensation, even for free. No keyboard = not the phone for me, no matter how much support it has.
Devs can crank out roms like no tomorrow, but that won't change the fact that I'm still missing a keyboard.
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Braccozz I appreciate your honesty your in no way haulting the productivity of this phone you just speack the trueth..... But I honestly don't want a Samsung and I love my mytouch running primadonna I was just offered a brand new HTC sensation for 230 and wonder if I should indulge in that offer ;D
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that's up to you really. putting aside the hardware differencies, keep in mind that:
-sensation is getting official ICS these days, our phone may never get it
-CM development for sensation, albeit slow, is still going on. CM for our phone is most likely indefinately on hold due to the mantainer personal's issues
if it was for me, i wouldn't spend that much money on an almost identical phone, i'd save for the next gen ones
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that's up to you really. putting aside the hardware differencies, keep in mind that:
-sensation is getting official ICS these days, our phone may never get it
-CM development for sensation, albeit slow, is still going on. CM for our phone is most likely indefinately on hold due to the mantainer personal's issues
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xmc_wildchild is making brilliant progress with his CM9 port.
tbalden is also on team virtuous now (primadonna is almost flawless. Everything you want is working including the camera and camcorder). and rajzzz is an amazing little dev. starting from scratch again, he's done a lot in such a little amount of time. we've definitely got some good leads
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xmc_wildchild is making brilliant progress with his CM9 port.
tbalden is also on team virtuous now (primadonna is almost flawless. Everything you want is working including the camera and camcorder). and rajzzz is an amazing little dev. starting from scratch again, he's done a lot in such a little amount of time. we've definitely got some good leads
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i know and i really appreciate the hard work they are putting into that.
but they are all ports, and as such have major issues. can't really compare ports to official/cm builds
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i know and i really appreciate the hard work they are putting into that.
but they are all ports, and as such have major issues. can't really compare ports to official/cm builds
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Straight from Primadonna's page:
Not working:
WiFi Hotspot
USB Tethering
Auto Brightness Values
Softkey rotation on Inc S/2
You tell us
Let me know which one of those you find major
I don't even have a data plan so wifi hotspot doesn't matter to me. as far as i'm concerned, this rom is great.
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Straight from Primadonna's page:
Not working:
WiFi Hotspot
USB Tethering
Auto Brightness Values
Softkey rotation on Inc S/2
You tell us
Let me know which one of those you find major
I don't even have a data plan so wifi hotspot doesn't matter to me. as far as i'm concerned, this rom is great.
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usb tethering and auto brightness are major to me. also there are many reports of apps crashing and random reboots left and right.
A very good rom but still not one for me
btw a side question: does the camcorder take 1080p or 720p only?
It records full 1080p I'm running it as a daily driver.
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nice, now if they only manage to fix tethering and brightness...
Why are you guys talking about primadonna's ROM? Its not for the doubleshot, right? I dunno, I came back after a couple days to this forum and everyones talking about primadonna out of nowhere.
Yep primadonna is for the Double shot its still apha but it doesnt seem to be in anyway .. very stable and smooth just some minor issues that im sure will be fix in the comming weeks.
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Why are you guys talking about primadonna's ROM? Its not for the doubleshot, right? I dunno, I came back after a couple days to this forum and everyones talking about primadonna out of nowhere.
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Its on rootzwiki
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Ah, I see. Cool, I'm going to check it out. Thanks
next keyboard phone for tmo
does anybody know what the next keyboard will be for tmo?
Look at it this way: as a dedicated HTC fan, the next phone I get is a Samsung. I mean, Cyanogen is on their payroll.
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So I was reading a blog about future upgrades for phones and saw no mention of our beloved MyTouch 4G. Any thoughts? http://m.blogs.computerworld.com/18077/android_23_upgrade_list
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Android 2.3 Upgrade List: The Rest of the Phones
If a phone isn't listed here -- like the original Motorola Droid, for example -- it's likely because there just isn't much clear info available yet about its fate. Odds are, we'll soon be hearing more and more details with each passing week.
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There have been some reports of HTC reps saying we will have an update, and the site says they do not have info on all phones
I think the fact that the myTouch phones use the stupid, TMO customized version of Sense means OS updates will be slightly delayed compared to other phones that use more common user interfaces (only the myTouch phones use "mySense", but there are lots of HTC phones that use regular Sense). That being said, it would be shocking if a phone with hardware as powerful as the MT4G has doesn't get a 2.3 update, or even 2.4 if that comes out eventually.
Shocking yes, but typical in the logic of big business? Not at all.
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1) Do you really want an update from t-mobile?
2) If the G2 gets it, my guess is the MT4G would follow - considering the hardware similarities.
3) CyanogenMod7>Any OTA from T-Mobile.
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1) Do you really want an update from t-mobile?
2) If the G2 gets it, my guess is the MT4G would follow - considering the hardware similarities.
3) CyanogenMod7>Any OTA from T-Mobile.
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The vast majority of MT4G's and in fact all Android phones are not rooted. Although most XDA users don't want an OTA, most users of the MT4G would benefit from it. Also, the development community can benefit from a 2.3 OTA because of kernels and drivers that are Gingerbread compatible specifically made for our device, that we don't currently have.
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1) Do you really want an update from t-mobile?
2) If the G2 gets it, my guess is the MT4G would follow - considering the hardware similarities.
3) CyanogenMod7>Any OTA from T-Mobile.
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If CM7RC4 is as good as it is now, image what will happen if we get the official drivers, and various protocols.
as much as i like AOSP ROMs i'd love to see some HomeBaked goodies using the real deal.
And i know TeamRoyal would cook up some mighty good stuff as well.
Yeah it would deff be nice to see ASOP for us,that would open up so much for us.
If the g2 gets it, and they release kernel source, it wont matter if we get an official version or not.
Ive never like stock, stupid crap i didnt need, slow, and built how they want..Cm7 has everything i need. But if the mytouch 3g got froyo, dont see why this phone, which started at 2.2.1, wont see gingy.
humm... when the ginger comes out i bet the honey based custom will also be out. i take the honey then
man... im hungry
2.3
The MT4G will in fact be getting 2.3
We're definitely getting 2.3............ Multiple sources confirm!
great newss
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I think the fact that the myTouch phones use the stupid, TMO customized version of Sense means OS updates will be slightly delayed compared to other phones that use more common user interfaces (only the myTouch phones use "mySense", but there are lots of HTC phones that use regular Sense). That being said, it would be shocking if a phone with hardware as powerful as the MT4G has doesn't get a 2.3 update, or even 2.4 if that comes out eventually.
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If the g2 gets it, and they release kernel source, it wont matter if we get an official version or not.
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Guess what..... looks like we get 2.3 at the same time as everybody else
http://www.tmonews.com/2011/04/mytouch-4g-gingerbread-update-coming-soon/
mark manning said:
Guess what..... looks like we get 2.3 at the same time as everybody else
http://www.tmonews.com/2011/04/mytouch-4g-gingerbread-update-coming-soon/
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Sweeeeet.
TeeJay3800 said:
Sweeeeet.
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Thanks to me.
michael2041 said:
Thanks to me.
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Thanks Michael2041, now... if we don't have our upgrade. You're dead... everyone will go after you... j/k bro nice job
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Lol I might consider letting u do that if theres no gingerbread...haha jk jk
So now we know there is going to be a gb update, cann't wait for the CM, Royal and faux to dig their teeth into the source and cook something even better for us. We are sooo hungry
I hate to say it but through the past year I've seen this thread explode then burn fizzle and slowly die.
There hasn't been any "new" development for this phone since mid year and it doesn't look like we will ever get gingerbread or any real interest in this phone from any hardcore developers. T-Mobile failed in ressurecting the sidekick imho it started off good but it quickly became a novelty and they just brushed it under the carpet. Even going so far as to not do exchanges on devices with known problems.
I love the sidekick line for the design of the phone and the full keyboard and basic reliability of the design. For those who don't know the company who designed and built the original sidekick phones "Sharp" came out with a new phone on at&t that looks similar to the older sidekick designs. Its also touch screen and has android. I havnt really looked at the specs on it tho. Just know it exists.
For now ill use this phone till it falls apart only because I can't afford a new one and T-Mobile has me by the balls on contract :-/ untill there's some kind of breakthrough with this phone I think I'm done posting on here till I get my next android device.
Id like to thank those who deserve it for helping me and the community
Ay0teddy, sduvik, xmeatizmurderx and even revolution for his efforts in trying to keep things going.
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yeah iv seen that phone by sharp, the sharp fx. i immedietly thought of the old sidekick slide. i agree with you though kinda sucks, but im just glad we have any devs at all.
Actually the sidekick slide was the only one not made by sharp it was made by motorola.
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yeah iv seen that phone by sharp, the sharp fx. i immedietly thought of the old sidekick slide. i agree with you though kinda sucks, but im just glad we have any devs at all.
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The sidekick was my first android phone an I am sad that more devs haven't seen this phone as the new G1 but at the same time i'm happy with the devs we have that are trying to learn new things an make better roms for our phones. I myself am also on contract with tmobile so it will be a while before i can upgrade my sidekick for another phone (maybe a galaxy note even if it means no 3g or 4g) Currently for stability i've been using a spare xperia x10 mini pro (loaded with miniCMpro an phone cost me $125 after shipping) an its a breath of fresh air not having the phone reboot at random or fcing in the background without showing whats going wrong though i do miss having least 2g speeds (running on edge on this phone) but I do hope one day the devs we have or a new one finds a way to bring our phone from being a unloved child to being a phone to be desired
hey
yea i got rid of my sidekick 4g i have a galaxy s device now and im loveing it the way i did was called tmobile and demanded that i speak to the loyalty department and demanded a new phone because of the issues or i was leaving and they basically gave me a 600 dollar phone for 99.99 dollars 50 rebate and theirs a lot of dev going on for this phone that i got now you can take the warranty route and exchange your device three times than get another device free its called warranty exchange and since its a 4g phone you have the option of getting another 4g phone but they choose it for u its overnight shipping so you basically HAVE to have insurrance in order for it to be 5 bucks with each exchange or otherwise you pay 20 bucks for each exchange without insurrance if it all works out go to gazelle.com and sell your sidekick they gave me 80 for it
Bye. Can't say I care.
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Bye. Can't say I care.
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Hey, at least he/she thanked the devs... it might have taken a page and a half to get there, with a review of opinions everyone has already said and/or read.
I must admit though, I do feel that the earth stopped rotating for a moment upon this announcement. hehehe
i kid-i kid
While development and upgrades to Gingerbread may be non-existant (for now), the users on this community have brought out the best in my phone. I had the same outlook as you did soon after buying this phone and seeing that there wasn't a) A gingerbread update already available (seeing as how the phone was released in March and I got mine last month), and b) It didn't look like Gingerbread or ICS weren't going to be available anytime in the near future. Even with Fryo this phone still has a lot to offer. Revolution's ICS Domination ROM gave my phone new life and a new modem brought my down/up speeds up exponentialy.
I have hope that eventually we will see a Gingerbread update (or even ICS) since this phones specs aren't too differnt from that of the Nexus S. But if not, I'm still glad I chose to get a Sidekick one last time.
I'm giving up too we just gotta wait the devs got our bacl!
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Once we get gingerbread , i'll be working on ICS .
Once again I look on xda and find a small amount of dev work being done I'm glad people still are holding on to this device. It makes me happy. I came back after this post for a brief time because of new roms but wound up going back to an older rom after difficulties. I know most of you left here are new to this device but I wanted to let everyone know once again I'm leaving my sk4g. I will be moving to the HTC Amaze 4g forums one of my good friends got a new rezound and let me have her amaze for free ^_^ once I root it I will be switching my daily driver to that. I hope to see this phone someday get the respect it should have from the inital release. Thank you to all devs who prooved that this phone wasn't just a little toy for text addicted teens and actually could have been brought to greatness if it weren't for t-mobile dropping support. Also if we ever get gingerbread, ice cream sandwich or jellybean to run on the sk4g would someone please pm me and let me know I would love to see it ^_^ untill then goodbye all and once again a big thanx to all the devs who keep this section of xda from going into the inactive threads pile with all other discontinued phones ^_^
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Once again I look on xda and find a small amount of dev work being done I'm glad people still are holding on to this device. It makes me happy. I came back after this post for a brief time because of new roms but wound up going back to an older rom after difficulties. I know most of you left here are new to this device but I wanted to let everyone know once again I'm leaving my sk4g. I will be moving to the HTC Amaze 4g forums one of my good friends got a new rezound and let me have her amaze for free ^_^ once I root it I will be switching my daily driver to that. I hope to see this phone someday get the respect it should have from the inital release. Thank you to all devs who prooved that this phone wasn't just a little toy for text addicted teens and actually could have been brought to greatness if it weren't for t-mobile dropping support. Also if we ever get gingerbread, ice cream sandwich or jellybean to run on the sk4g would someone please pm me and let me know I would love to see it ^_^ untill then goodbye all and once again a big thanx to all the devs who keep this section of xda from going into the inactive threads pile with all other discontinued phones ^_^
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No problem. I myself have switched DD's, but still support this phone highly. Regardless, I wish you the best of luck. The SGSII is an amazing phone, and I hope the Amaze4G is just as well. If you're finally done with the SK4G, you could look into sending it do bhundven as he is a recognized developer as such I'm sure he can do wonderful things and teach us things we never knew. After he's done creating and testing and he gets his own (soon) he will send it back. Please get in contact with him.
If I at any point decide to leave the SK4G (which isn't in my immediate future but who knows) I will send it to the developer who DOES NOT have one or is not capable of getting one -- to keep.
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No problem. I myself have switched DD's, but still support this phone highly. Regardless, I wish you the best of luck. The SGSII is an amazing phone, and I hope the Amaze4G is just as well. If you're finally done with the SK4G, you could look into sending it do bhundven as he is a recognized developer as such I'm sure he can do wonderful things and teach us things we never knew. After he's done creating and testing and he gets his own (soon) he will send it back. Please get in contact with him.
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TLS, that was very nice to ask that! If azcledel feels that he does not want to "give up" his sk4g, but instead loan it to me for 2 weeks, I would be happy to pay shipping to and from me.
The device would be returned in the same condition as I received it.
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If I at any point decide to leave the SK4G (which isn't in my immediate future but who knows) I will send it to the developer who DOES NOT have one or is not capable of getting one -- to keep.
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The question goes to you as well, If you are using your sgs2 as your DD, why not send me yours?
You will get it back in two weeks, and possibly have cm7 or better running on it
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TLS, that was very nice to ask that! If azcledel feels that he does not want to "give up" his sk4g, but instead loan it to me for 2 weeks, I would be happy to pay shipping to and from me.
The device would be returned in the same condition as I received it.
The question goes to you as well, If you are using your sgs2 as your DD, why not send me yours?
You will get it back in two weeks, and possibly have cm7 or better running on it
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I would gladly if you were to pay shipping (I'm a broke ass college student with no job) haha. You ARE a recognized developer. I trust you.
PM me on here if you're up for it. I'm going to be at college nearly all day so I won't be able to even send it at least until tomorrow. (My day off).
I will concider sending it once I get access to a pc to root my amaze but I'm not sure I want to give it up yet the amaze is a dual core running a fresh stock ics 4.0.3 with sense 3.6 it all depends on what I can do to it and how I like it. I don't like not having a full querty keyboard but the touch screen issues and lack of ram on the sk4g is why I am concidering switching in the first place also the "free" part helped a lot lol I'm broke myself and cant afford to upgrade. Who knows I may switch back to the sk4g and sell the amaze idk yet but will definetly keep it in mind.
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I will concider sending it once I get access to a pc to root my amaze but I'm not sure I want to give it up yet the amaze is a dual core running a fresh stock ics 4.0.3 with sense 3.6 it all depends on what I can do to it and how I like it. I don't like not having a full querty keyboard but the touch screen issues and lack of ram on the sk4g is why I am concidering switching in the first place also the "free" part helped a lot lol I'm broke myself and cant afford to upgrade. Who knows I may switch back to the sk4g and sell the amaze idk yet but will definetly keep it in mind.
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Woah! Don't sell the Amaze 4G, it's..well...amazing! But yeah, just because it's 4.0.3 doesn't mean anything. You can find stable builds of 4.0.4 and 4.1.1 with Sense UI removed -- (if you want it that way) I got my GS II and like, 3 days later 4.0.4 officially came out with a newer radio too. But yeah, I understand the feeling of not wanting to consider dropping the SK4G in anyway (after all, it was and is my first Android smartphone and the first for which I've maintained a ROM for...) regardless, I'll admit to only buying the phone for 2 reasons...I was a teenager when the Sidekick was BOOMING around middle school and high school, and the price was so damn budget I had to get it.
Well so far I'm digging the amaze still hate not having a 5 row physical keyboard but the dev teams seem pretty informed we have ppl working on porting cyanogen mod 10 and jellybean. Right now I'm running a Rom with 4.0.3 had one running 4.0.4 but had problems sending/RECEIVING mms so I SWITCHED back. Ics is awesome but way different than gingerbread and our Frito that we've been plagued with. Just felt like updating you guys seeing as this is where my whole xda/android experience started. Here's a couple screen shots of the Rom I'm currently running.
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Well so far I'm digging the amaze still hate not having a 5 row physical keyboard but the dev teams seem pretty informed we have ppl working on porting cyanogen mod 10 and jellybean. Right now I'm running a Rom with 4.0.3 had one running 4.0.4 but had problems sending/RECEIVING mms so I SWITCHED back. Ics is awesome but way different than gingerbread and our Frito that we've been plagued with. Just felt like updating you guys seeing as this is where my whole xda/android experience started. Here's a couple screen shots of the Rom I'm currently running.
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Lol yeah we're pretty much in the sameboat. I love my phone, we have an almost done version of CM10 / AOKP Jelly Bean ported.
Goodbye sk4g lol its over in my book. The devs over on the HTC Amaze 4G section got CM10 working with data today jellybean is soooo smooth. I'm never going back to the sk4g now. Tho if CM 7 gets up and working I will break it out just to update it. Good luck guys I'll still check here every now and then tho.
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Goodbye sk4g lol its over in my book. The devs over on the HTC Amaze 4G section got CM10 working with data today
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What's the point of comparing QWERTY Sidekick with a typical touchphone?.. There are over 9000 of them, many with JB.
T-Mobile has had leaked ICS Roms for both HTC devices running Sense 3.0. The Sensation 4G, and Amaze 4G. Most people felt like the Amaze would never get the 3.6 Update. But now they have a leaked RUU, bloat and all. Now that a good number of Sense 3.0 devices have an ICS update. I think it's time for the Doubleshot to get a ICS update. The Gingerbread RUU was leaked before this phone came out. I'm sure Football will manage to get a leaked Rom. We have all the proper specs, and I know we have 1 Million plus ICS Update threads. But with all the new updates, come on. It's about time.
Fail Xo I posted in the wroung Section! Mods, please move this thread. I'm sick right now, didn't know what I did.
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I sure hope you're right about this one...
Our phone will literally rocket off for development
Ya... But I just don't see any signs that T-Mobile or HTC is going to release a ROM like that for our phone. Hopefully they do tho!
Typed by ---- oh wait! I'm schizophrenic!
Either way, we've been making stunning progress even without an official update.
Have you checked out the sticky on ICS configuration tree in the dev section?
That's some great progress
I encourage anyone who knows anything dev to pop in and see if they can help. It will make cooking roms much easier and also greatly increase our chances of CM support.
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think again, i can say that there WILL NOT be an official release of ICS, EVER for the MT4GS
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And your basis for this assumption?
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And your basis for this assumption?
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There is no definitive word either way yet...so everything is an assumption
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And your basis for this assumption?
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Undeadk9 was claiming that he knew a "level 3" tech support at T-Mobile who told him there would not be any ICS for MT4GS. I heard all that sort of crap back when I had a Moto Cliq and the MT3GS, some "friend" in "tech support" telling bullsh*t. No doubt there is a friend, but believing that friend has information that nobody else has is very unrealistic.
T-Mobile updated even the ancient original MyTouch from 1.6 all the way to Froyo 2.2. I don't see them completely abandoning this phone, especially since the hardware is so similar to their other models like the Amaze 4G and Sensation 4G. HTC would only need to incorporate the Genius system.
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... reports of this phone being end of life'd very shortly, you can almost garentee they have no interest in updating this phone to ICS. Watch and see, it happens with almost all their phones.
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You just confirmed that you really don't know sh*t. EOL has no bearing on whether a phone receives an update. T-Mobile has updated many phones long after they went EOL in their system. The entire MyTouch lineup, including the original, got updated to Froyo within a few months of each other, LOOOOOOONG after they had all gone EOL.
And what's the crap about no development on this phone? You can't be taken seriously spewing crap like that. Look around, dude. Here and Virtuous are full of dev for this phone.
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I have to interject here. STABLE ROMs? Are you insane?
I'm sorry but MMS and Bluetooth not working (to name a few of your "kinks") is a pretty f**king big deal. I would never call that stable.
And the closest to stable is DeSensed, which is ridiculous considering imitation widgets are GARBAGE in comparison.
Let's remember: Virtuous sets the standard for "stable". Period. Don't get me wrong, the developer community is great and I have appreciated them very much so over the years. But don't go branding their work to save your argument.
I hope that an official ICS update comes, but I doubt it. With the 3G slide, at least they kept telling everyone that an update was coming and it eventually came. Not the same case here.
Wow ..... I love xda and all these stable roms. These guys do a hell of a job. Dont let people get ya down we love all the devs here.... Im running premadonna right now and its quite stable
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I'm sorry but MMS and Bluetooth not working (to name a few of your "kinks")
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Don't know what rom you are talking about MMS and Bluetooth, but Primadonna has MMS, Bluetooth and almost everything else working for me. The main feature it doesn't have is tethering, but Opengarden and Barnacle does the trick on that too...
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I have to interject here. STABLE ROMs? Are you insane?
I'm sorry but MMS and Bluetooth not working (to name a few of your "kinks") is a pretty f**king big deal. I would never call that stable.
And the closest to stable is DeSensed, which is ridiculous considering imitation widgets are GARBAGE in comparison.
Let's remember: Virtuous sets the standard for "stable". Period. Don't get me wrong, the developer community is great and I have appreciated them very much so over the years. But don't go branding their work to save your argument.
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I threw AOKP in the mix by mistake. Either way, you're missing the point. There are stable (DEFINE: something I can use daily, with features I won't miss - obviously that differs from person to person) ICS roms out there. And if something like autobrightness isn't working, and that's what got you in a hunch, then you need to stick to the stock rom. Honestly I could care less about little quibbles like that.
My point is 95% of what you would need, even on a daily basis is working. And for some roms, it's even more than that. That's pretty outstanding considering we don't even have an official kernel or update.
Honestly, this thread has spiraled into a pointless opinion thread.
I refrain from posting any further.
You may think what you wish
I keep seeing people on here saying "phones with sense 3.0". I hope yall realize that we don't even have a real version of Sense.. its a Rosie/Doubleshot version. I don't see HTC modifying/myTouching the new version of sense and ICS for the doubleshot.
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I am sticking with it and telling you that you will not see ICS for the MyTouch 4G Slide as an official T-Mobile USA Release.
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Which is simply your uninformed and unknowing opinion, no more credible than anyone which differs. You claimed to have "inside information", which is pure bullsh*t.
I hope so. None of the custom ICS ROMs are stable, always several things missing or not working that prevent me from using it long term and those ROMs havent been updated in over a month.
Like I've said in several ics threads like this, the mytouch 4g will not receive ics.
Reason being, the mt4g has T-Mobile's sense version(my sense). For the mytouch 4g to be able to receive ics, T-Mobile would have to get rid of their mysense version of sense which they won't do on a T-Mobile specific device or HTC would have to create 2 versions of ics, one compatible with mytouch 4g's mysense and a regular ics for the rest of the devices.
You guys also gotta realize we didn't even receive a sense 3.0 update.
U all keep forgetting that HTC rebranded the phone in canada to the HTC Panache...
So its not only a MYSENSE Tmobile phone
so it is possible that other carriers in canada request that ICS gets on this phone
thats my 2 cents on this subject
tradeware said:
U all keep forgetting that HTC rebranded the phone in canada to the HTC Panache...
So its not only a MYSENSE Tmobile phone
so it is possible that other carriers in canada request that ICS gets on this phone
thats my 2 cents on this subject
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yea i was thinking about that.. maybe the panache version will get the update
i hope so, but honestly i doubt it because i dont think there are many panache users here most would have went with the amaze or galaxy nexus
tradeware said:
U all keep forgetting that HTC rebranded the phone in canada to the HTC Panache...
So its not only a MYSENSE Tmobile phone
so it is possible that other carriers in canada request that ICS gets on this phone
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Exactly, in Canada. If my memory serves me rights, they didn't even receive android 2.3.4.
But lets say he Canadian version of the mytouch receives ics, the US T-Mobile won't. Again same reason, panache=sense/T-Mobile mytouch 4g=mysense.
So I just got off the phone with HTC and they said this device will not get the ics update. This is a very sad disappointment tom me. I should've just gotten the Sensation in the first place. Well the only thing now is to see if t-mobile will get the iP5 and if so here I come iOS
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So I just got off the phone with HTC and they said this device will not get the ics update. This is a very sad disappointment tom me. I should've just gotten the Sensation in the first place. Well the only thing now is to see if t-mobile will get the iP5 and if so here I come iOS
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April Fool's Day was a month and a half ago.
This is no April fools joke.
I wasn't expecting an update at all anyway. HTC and T-Mo don't seem to be showing any interest in supporting the device more than in a very cursory way. They made their money off the device and are washing their hands.
The dev community has been the life of this device in my opinion since about the beginning of October for me. TBalden, Blue, and Undead are the reason I didn't bail and sell the device. I see no reason to change my decision simply because of HTC's affirmation that they don't care to support their customers.
Hastily spouted for your befuddlement
So what am I to do next I want to root and do custom mods and roms and stuff but idk Imma end up messing my phone up. I want an iPhone 5 but this device I have now will do til I get it in the mean time I need a dedicated person to help me put sense 4.0 up and running on my device.
Coug76 said:
The dev community has been the life of this device in my opinion since about the beginning of October for me. TBalden, Blue, and Undead are the reason I didn't bail and sell the device. I see no reason to change my decision simply because of HTC's affirmation that they don't care to support their customers.
Hastily spouted for your befuddlement
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^this^
Thinking about getting a Samsung for my next device next year. I just hope Cyanogen convinced them to make high-end sliders.
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I just honestly believe that Samsung is a lame a** boring ui...... It's kinda just Samsung HTC and Motorola in the good ui sections of a smartphone
http://www.htc.com/www/help/android4faq/?cid=android4blog
according to this we are not out of the running for ics. the amaze was just added as well as a few other phones. also it says any phone with less than 512 mb ram will not recieve the update and we have more. so i would like to believe we may still get it.
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http://www.htc.com/www/help/android4faq/?cid=android4blog
according to this we are not out of the running for ics. the amaze was just added as well as a few other phones. also it says any phone with less than 512 mb ram will not recieve the update and we have more. so i would like to believe we may still get it.
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Support from HTC for this device has always been anemic at best. I'm guessing kornyone will have CM9 RCs before there's official ICS available.
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What's the big deal our developers keep this device fresh as hell. There's a lot of great for everyday ics roms available.
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d3athb4dishonor said:
What's the big deal our developers keep this device fresh as hell. There's a lot of great for everyday ics roms available.
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I wouldn't go that far. Maybe great for some people, but still not quite there yet for me. But, I'm encouraged by the progress that has been made. I need a ROM that just works, everything works, without any "gotchas" or having to do anything extraordinary.. just works. That's why I stick with tweaked stock ROMs for now. My MT4GS is my only phone, I don't have a landline or another phone as a spare.
The ICS update is not really much of an issue... Get yourself a virtuous inquisition 4.0.3, I am running it right now since I got the doubleshot over eBay a month ago. Everything is working quite good and stable. Tbalden is stil working on it, he released kernel 3 a week ago, so the doubleshot is running up to 1.7ghz in case of need... don't whine, just get s-off, root and you'll get one of the most versatile qwerty smartphones out there...
Edit: you can check out Rootzwiki for more info...
Here is the download link to vinq kernel 3 v2: virtuous.prp2.com/doubleshot/inquisition/virtuous_inquisition-v4.0.2-doubleshot-kernel3_v2.zip
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To be honest, CM9 currently runs a litle better than Virtuous Inquisition. Less force crashes, a slightly more polished experience, and the battery life is a little better. However, Virtuous runs Nova by default and also has the MIUI style battery bar by default.
Recommendation: try both. A few less FC's and more polish vs. a few more shiny things and a little less stability.
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I wouldn't go that far. Maybe great for some people, but still not quite there yet for me. But, I'm encouraged by the progress that has been made. I need a ROM that just works, everything works, without any "gotchas" or having to do anything extraordinary.. just works. That's why I stick with tweaked stock ROMs for now. My MT4GS is my only phone, I don't have a landline or another phone as a spare.
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Believe me I'm in the same boat and cm9 is working amazingly for me as a daily driver, everything that I need works though bluetooth is slightly buggy sometimes (though that may be my fault as I jumped right in after flashing and MAY have accidentally restored my stock 2.3.4 pairings. Trust me I deliver for a living so this phone is my lifeline and the devs have and will continue to keep it a stable lifeline at worst and a superior lifeline at best! Thanks for some great work and if I can ever help... drop a line. If any of you team ds devs are ever in my hometown hit me up for a beer or some pizza!
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Believe me I'm in the same boat and cm9 is working amazingly for me as a daily driver, everything that I need works though bluetooth is slightly buggy sometimes (though that may be my fault as I jumped right in after flashing and MAY have accidentally restored my stock 2.3.4 pairings. Trust me I deliver for a living so this phone is my lifeline and the devs have and will continue to keep it a stable lifeline at worst and a superior lifeline at best! Thanks for some great work and if I can ever help... drop a line. If any of you team ds devs are ever in my hometown hit me up for a beer or some pizza!
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I had some serious issues with Cm9... WiFi not working, force closing apps, did not even managed to get mybackup working to restore my data, apps etc. Camera was not running properly and the launcher itself was not that smooth, compared to nova... I'll wait for the next update or the RC to try it out again, till then I am staying with vinq.
I suppose it's more or less personal preference which rom you choose atm
Edit: I get round 1 fc in 24h and when I start the app again, it's always working. Do not have any stability issues with the new kernel...
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Narhim said:
I'll wait for the next I suppose it's more or less personal preference which rom you choose atm
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True... I should try vinq... but I know the support for CM has been fantastic so far and I'm kinda hooked on it so far lol! First time with ics and I never wanna go back.
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onebornoflight said:
True... I should try vinq... but I know the support for CM has been fantastic so far and I'm kinda hooked on it so far lol! First time with ics and I never wanna go back.
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Look, tbalden is working on both so you don't have to feel like betraying cm team or something like that... I mean I am switching from cm9 to vinq and back (right now staying on vinq because of the better experience) and trying things out. It's important for the devs that we do it to get rid of the errors...
I can recommend vinq, you can backup cm9, flash vinq, try it out (report errors) and then switch back if you don't like it... Not that I'm trying to convince you, just listing the options. Basically that is a question of 20 minutes to try a rom out, it's not like you will be formating your windows pc... :thumbup:
Cm9 has great support, I was running CM7 on my old Desire Z but ICS is just a totally different experience
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Well... 20 mins is slightly low with flashing it from s-on... more like a day or two to test battery life and whatnot haha. Downloading now anyway.
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Well... 20 mins is slightly low with flashing it from s-on... more like a day or two to test battery life and whatnot haha. Downloading now anyway.
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Ah, well yes, that's true
EDIT: how is the ROM? Do you like it?
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Download corrupted since I was doing it on my phone and I haven't had a chance to download over a more stable connection because I'm moving and my internet is turned off will update when I get to download and try it out.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1678524
well, the mytouch 4g now has a almost completely fully functioning JB ROM and the g2x has a half-assed alpha test (sorry, EB team, not trying to belittle your work). grrrr. bout to go trade for a 4g slide. what really eats me, is that the G2x is a superior phone hardware wise to most phones even now. and definitively better than the mytouch. I feel the g2x community has fallen apart and due to that, there will never be a completely functional well.....anything. we should be all working together to iron out the wrinkles in JB not fighting over who developed what first or who can or cant use what code....I'm sorry, but who gives a flying f*** about the code when nothing since froyo has actually been 100% stable and functional on our devices?
im sorry, im just a bit meeved that i traded now. the reason why is in the specs of our phone:
http://geekaphone.com/compare/T-Mobile-G2x-vs-T-Mobile-myTouch-4G
and the state of our community as G2x owners:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1784980
I'm sure i'll be flamed, shunned, and burned for this thread but i really dont care. i like my G2x despite its many downfalls. i want to see it prosper and run JB and other future versions of android.
thanks for reading.
/rant
Stop whining and try doing some of the work yourself.
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alrighty, teach me to code than. lol
Learning to do some of this coding for the G2x is what I am trying to research now. Just have to keep reading and start playing around. I am way behind the other developers here and I'm not going to learn as fast as I want to but I will try because I love this phone.
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Trade it back for mytouch. G2x won't be getting ICS love anytime soon.
Btw, we have very stable GB roms all over the dev forums. What are you talking about? regarding froyo.
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Trade it back for mytouch. G2x won't be getting ICS love anytime soon.
Btw, we have very stable GB roms all over the dev forums. What are you talking about? regarding froyo.
I don't know what to say, for starters, ur a heat fan so u should get flamed just for that . Everything else, no comment
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i havent seen a rooted rom (aside stock rom) with everything 100% like BT calling with new baseband for instance. ICS has the same issue plus missing camcorder drivers.
moeahmad1995 said:
I don't know what to say, for starters, ur a heat fan so u should get flamed just for that . Everything else, no comment
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Lebron and the heat whooped the **** outta OKC. lol
Calm down, the bobcats can beat the heat
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i havent seen a rooted rom (aside stock rom) with everything 100% like BT calling with new baseband for instance. ICS has the same issue plus missing camcorder drivers.
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Using the old baseband I have been 100% stable since I first got the g2x... everything works perfectly (aside from slow gps but it still works)
HFP, CM7, and CM7.2 just to name a few have no bugs other than user error which as we all know can't be fixed (because you just can't fix stupid)
I do understand where your coming from however your "facts" are a little skewed.
Good luck with the coding, I hope you will be the next great Dev!
Pin it to Win it.
Even though I don't use my G2X as my main phone anymore, it is my go to device as my tablet device. I know I don't have a tablet, but when I need to read news, stream videos, read emails, do all sorts of things, the G2X is my go to device. Hands down CM7 is solid and stable. I do need to reboot it a couple of times a week but I'm not stressed about it.
I've not updated the BB mainly because of the ROMs needing a special modification, and lose access to all the previous ROMs.
I don't care really. I want to use the ICS ROMs but they have bugs. Again all the hate goes to LG. Devs do best they can with little they do have access to.
I have the Galaxy S2, Amaze, and G2X. Hands down, my go to device is my G2X when I am home and in WiFi range. Its faster and snappier. What a waste LG did. Even display is better than the Amaze. It really pisses me off that HTC went cheap on the Amaze's display.
I use the GS2 now because it's got a stable CM9, and honestly detested the Stock ROM. If G2X had a stable CM9 (Full Support with Drivers and everything) and the GPS issue was reliable, I swear I'd go back to my G2X as my main device.
As for reliability is concerned, GS2 and Amaze hands down. Again, pisses me off LG screwed this phone royally.
moeahmad1995 said:
Calm down, the bobcats can beat the heat
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you sir....are wrong.
I.R.Chevy said:
Using the old baseband I have been 100% stable since I first got the g2x... everything works perfectly (aside from slow gps but it still works)
HFP, CM7, and CM7.2 just to name a few have no bugs other than user error which as we all know can't be fixed (because you just can't fix stupid)
I do understand where your coming from however your "facts" are a little skewed.
Good luck with the coding, I hope you will be the next great Dev!
Pin it to Win it.
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yeah. i needs my GPS, thats a game changer for me. im still reading all the stuff that CM suggests before doing anything. baby steps. gonna try and compile a new APK before i take on a ROM.
vmartinez39 said:
Even though I don't use my G2X as my main phone anymore, it is my go to device as my tablet device. I know I don't have a tablet, but when I need to read news, stream videos, read emails, do all sorts of things, the G2X is my go to device. Hands down CM7 is solid and stable. I do need to reboot it a couple of times a week but I'm not stressed about it.
I've not updated the BB mainly because of the ROMs needing a special modification, and lose access to all the previous ROMs.
I don't care really. I want to use the ICS ROMs but they have bugs. Again all the hate goes to LG. Devs do best they can with little they do have access to.
I have the Galaxy S2, Amaze, and G2X. Hands down, my go to device is my G2X when I am home and in WiFi range. Its faster and snappier. What a waste LG did. Even display is better than the Amaze. It really pisses me off that HTC went cheap on the Amaze's display.
I use the GS2 now because it's got a stable CM9, and honestly detested the Stock ROM. If G2X had a stable CM9 (Full Support with Drivers and everything) and the GPS issue was reliable, I swear I'd go back to my G2X as my main device.
As for reliability is concerned, GS2 and Amaze hands down. Again, pisses me off LG screwed this phone royally.
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thats exactly what i was saying. this is the best phone i have ever owned hardware wise. Yes, this is mostly Nvidia & LG's fault, but its still frustrating. my fiancee just got the blaze and its ok. its pretty snappy, but when my G2x is on stock rom, it stomps it... no questions asked. and yeah, the GPS bug is what i was talking abot from pre v21y. also, it is really a pain in the a$$ just to figure out how to downgrade basebands, let alone actually do it. alas, the g2x is my daily driver so i need it to preform well and be stable. that means i need bluetooth calling, working GPS, MMS, all that.
Yeah... Can't argue with you there. The G2x is a POS. I traded my MT4G for this phone too, while I don't really regret it since I got more money once I sold the G2x, the MT4G was far more reliable and every ROM just worked on it.
Either way, it was a lesson learned to never buy another LG phone no matter what the specs are. Samsung and HTC is the way to go from now on. Or better yet, Nexus!
mackster248 said:
The G2x is a POS.
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Disagree. Gingerbread 2.3.3 stunk on the G2x, and Nvidia's policy of keeping its drivers "closed-source" sucks!
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Or better yet, Nexus!
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Strongly agree! For $350, I know what I'd buy in a second if my G2x took a crap on me. Still, considering my 2 year contract came with a "free" G2x on each line nearly a year ago - I am not complaining. By the way, stock based 2.3.4 Gingerbread ROMs define stable for me (Thanks Kwes and Buru). However, I suppose I like a little instability in my life though since I married a woman?!? and use CM7 ROMs!?!:silly:
i've been seriously condsidering getting a loan and buying a nexus, than cancelling with t-mobile lol it'd probably be cheaper in the long run.
It's just a phone. If you want to be on the bleeding edge and have something to play around with just get a nexus 7.
I think a lot of people are just jealous that others get ics/jb and don't realize that it's not that big of a difference. g2x works great when I don't have my tablet.
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It's just a phone. If you want to be on the bleeding edge and have something to play around with just get a nexus 7.
I think a lot of people are just jealous that others get ics/jb and don't realize that it's not that big of a difference. g2x works great when I don't have my tablet.
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redmonke255 said:
It's just a phone. If you want to be on the bleeding edge and have something to play around with just get a nexus 7.
I think a lot of people are just jealous that others get ics/jb and don't realize that it's not that big of a difference. g2x works great when I don't have my tablet.
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http://www.pcworld.com/article/259660/googles_16gb_nexus_7_disappears_from_play_store.html
cant. and it doesnt have an sd slot. thats BS. wtf???
Try the paranoid android rom. Its a surprisingly good ICS ROM.
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xeroy said:
Try the paranoid android rom. Its a surprisingly good ICS ROM.
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check my sig. lol
and its ICS so i got google now on that ishhh. i wish we could get stock voice search though. the workaround blows.