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Wow, webOS is rather good and it kicks the butt in battery life/management over my iPhone 4 and Android phones!
Why is this?
My pre- lasts twice as long as my G2. I also leave bluetooth and Wi-Fi on on my pre-, and turn these off on my G2.
I can think of two reasons why:
1) Hardware isn't as power-hungry on the pre-. Particularly the smaller, lower-res screen and the slower CPU.
2) Better app management in WebOS. On Android, pressing the back button doesn't always close an app. I've used every app manager I can find and they don't always do it either. Some apps just always run in the background. On the other hand, some apps won't stay open either. I haven't used any process/task/services managers on WebOS, but it seems to me that I don't need to. When you close an app it stays closed.
This is the one thing I hate on Android. Apps running in the background for no particular reason. This is what I loved on the WebOS, once I threw the app off the screen it was done, not so with android....so irritating.
I used to have a pre plus and I loved the fact that while being a multitasking beast, you could still choose to have no applications running.
Download autokiller memory optimizer.
It is not a task manager. It changes the memory levels at which the android system automatically kills background apps. It doesn't simply kill tasks like task managers do. (When using a task manager, the apps start up again and cause battery drain)
You can set the values to a high level. In this case, android will automatically kill background apps when memory dips below a certain level.
The application does require root.
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My Pre- sucked down battery worse than any phone I have owned. It would last 12hrs in freaking standby with practically no use. My wifes was like that too. I overclocked and got about 6 lol. I call bs. Loved webOS but the Pre hardware sucked. WebOS was realeased unfinished also. Ill wait for the Pre4, because the 3 is already behind.
BTW the battery life on my wife's and my Epic 4g battery kinda sucks too, but not as bad, even OC'ed.
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My Pre didn't have great battery life, but it was better than my Moment and my Evo.(But the Evo has a huge screen also, and there is no excuse for the moment lawlz)
My Pre + sucked down battery life like crazy, but was usually better than my fascinate. I don't have any experience with an iphone, but I heard that they were supposed to actually get great battery life
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My Pre- sucked down battery worse than any phone I have owned. It would last 12hrs in freaking standby with practically no use. My wifes was like that too. I overclocked and got about 6 lol. I call bs. Loved webOS but the Pre hardware sucked. WebOS was realeased unfinished also. Ill wait for the Pre4, because the 3 is already behind.
BTW the battery life on my wife's and my Epic 4g battery kinda sucks too, but not as bad, even OC'ed.
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I had a pre plus and my battery life sucked ass dude. I don't know what kind of Frankenstein pre you have but my droid incredible easily lasts about 5 times as long. My pre would die in 5 hours on standby.
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Ok I have been reading since literally the first day the G2x came out about the "Horrible" battery life of the phone. So, after toying with it for about 8 days I have nailed it down so that the phone gets about 20 hours of Moderate use(Constant texting, internet for emails, YouTube, and searches, and probably about 2 hours of light gaming(not Nova or NFS)). So, Outside of the obvious like make sure your bluetooth, wifi, and GPS are off and turn your display brightness down here are my steps to Better Battery Life.
First - Root The Phone. There is plenty of links and help if you don't know how or have questions about rooting.
Second -(Root Needed) Use Titanium Backup or Antek App Manager(Antek is free) and Freeze or uninstall all the bloatware that you don't use off of your phone. Especially Car Home cause along with people on XDA i have also noticed that it does use a fair amount of battery for NO Reason.(Be careful with My T-mobile and My Device might throw your phone into a force close frenzy)
--For some reason people have been asking exactly what T-Mobile Apps you can freeze/uninstall and the answer is. All of Them. I personally left My T-Mobile(To view Minute Usage) and Wifi Calling(Cause I have no service in some buildings) and froze the rest, but you can get rid of everything you don't want or use.
Third -(Root Needed) Set CPU. Have had this on my G1 and N1 and it does nothing but save battery. I currently have it set on 216 - 1000 for when the screen is on and the only profile i have is for when the screen is off and it is at 216-216.
(Alternative) Pimp My CPU. I now am using this for my G2x because I am running custom kernal. Personally I like Set CPU better, but do to the fact that Set CPU can't get past 1000 MHz makes it kinda useless for the G2x Tegra 2.
Fourth -(Root Needed) Battery Calibration. There is an App in the Market for this and it is easier and less of a hassle than Factory Reseting the phone. Just charge all the way to 100% and i discharged to 0% and recharged it and Amazing difference in battery life. (And don't doubt the Calibrator cause right after i set it to calibrate the initial 100% got to zero in about 7 hours, but after that one cycle i was getting the 20 hours i am now)
Fifth - Elixir. Not only does this app display anything you might wanna see about your phone (CPU usage, battery temp, battery percentage, memory...) it also has a widget that lets you toggle your internet on/off. Which is almost necessary since "4G" kills battery like no other.
Sixth - Auto Sync. I shouldn't have to put this, but if you don't know your phone is set up to auto sync all your Google apps(Calendar, Gmail, Contacts) and Social Network apps(Facebook,Twitter). So go into settings and make sure that you turn auto sync off.
Now the next steps aren't proven to give extra life, but i did them just in case and well I get 20 hours of use like i said before.
Sixth - Watchdog. This app monitors all the other apps and processes in your phone and will alert you if a rogue app is draining your better life.
Seventh - I did the "Alternate Battery Fix". This involves changing one setting and who knows maybe it does help me get extra juice.
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1051036
Eighth - Wifi Never sleep. Supposedly according to some if you change wifi to Never Sleep it will stop some loop in the programing which in turn will save battery.
Ninth - Wifi Calling. If you didn't decide to freeze/uninstall this app. Make sure that this is OFF, because whenever you have wifi on it will constantly flip between Wifi Calling and normal radio towers, which once again is bad for your battery life.
Well, Thats that and if y'all can think of anything that i missed or have any questions or ideas let me know! And remember this is a Dual-Core, High-End, Monster Phone and duh if you use it hardcore (Movies, HD Games, tons of web browsing) the battery will die fairly quick.
P.S. Will post a Screen Shot of Uptime for 20 hours later(if it doesn't Re-boot before i get to 20)
Update #1: Have read all the posts and have decided to speak up about a couple things.
Task Killers - I feel like these are brought up in every thread ever created about batteries, and well they are useless. So, if you are gonna bring up the ram usage argument. Android is made to kill programs that are either inactive for to long or the operating system will shut down background tasks if a new app needs the cpu power. Than for those who say that it helps close programs and makes the battery last longer.Having a Task Killer that basically re-closes the same apps over and over again(These are usually bloatware background apps that for some reason never stop running) is not gonna do anything except waste precious battery life on running the task killer itself cause the app will just restart. Your best bet is to run watchdog find the apps that are taking to much battery and freeze/uninstall them.
Managing Apps - Apps like Tasker, Juice Defender, and the like are in my opinion not battery savers at all. They are just tools to implement what i have already previously stated, but that doesn't mean that they aren't useful. They are good if you have a busy schedule and have to constantly turn the internet on and off or switch between certain settings, but they are not actually a cause of better battery just a tool to implement what you could do on your own.
I've done most of those things over the course of the last week and I just got a little over 24 hours on my last charge.
Those tips are legit.
Thanks! I was kinda worried about it cause it was my first post!
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Thanks! I was kinda worried about it cause it was my first post!
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good job man i love it most def legit
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good job man i love it most def legit
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Thanks! haha but if anyone has anything to add let me know I would like this thread to hopefully kill all those other ones away cause I am tired of them cluttering the forum when I am actually looking for something!
Great job! I've been getting about 20hrs of battery life using some of these... now I have more tricks to add =-)
Good job! I'm almost done withall the tweaks and have say it helping. Thanks
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Great tips. I was doing most of those, but have added the calibration software as well as watchdog. I have also found Juice Defender to be a big help.
Thanks again.
this is still not acceptable for a phone in 2011 to still have that kind of battery, most people out there aren't really concerned about tweaking their phones or dont even know about it. Im not gonna use setCPU or anything else, i expect things just to work flawlessly out of the box.
Tasker can be a friend in this whole deal too.
If you can automate your radios & screen brightness to exactly what you need when you need it you can save significant battery life.
If your WiFi calling app can't stay on wifi, you need to fix your wifi network and not your phone.
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With all of these changes having a toggle for haptic feedback I assume would help a ton...considering its a touchscreen and a retardedly fast phone. Otherwise it vibrates on every damn user input. Just curious what others think about this. Anyways, thanks for this post....the forum is getting congested.
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this is still not acceptable for a phone in 2011 to still have that kind of battery, most people out there aren't really concerned about tweaking their phones or dont even know about it. Im not gonna use setCPU or anything else, i expect things just to work flawlessly out of the box.
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Yeah, but on the flip side your an early adopter for technology that literally JUST CAME OUT and so there is no perfected system for it. I mean the version of android we are running right now doesn't even truly support dual-core! So yes this is the price we pay, and if dual core had been out for two years I would completely agree but it hasn't. This is what android has always been built on a semi flawed system but top of the line technology and thanks to the great community we have we can push the limit of every device out there even the g1.
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I meant this for people like myself who live in an area ( or college like me) where you are constantly moving in and out of wifi range and that would take a drain on your battery.
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With all of these changes having a toggle for haptic feedback I assume would help a ton...considering its a touchscreen and a retardedly fast phone. Otherwise it vibrates on every damn user input. Just curious what others think about this. Anyways, thanks for this post....the forum is getting congested.
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I think the reason we have so much haptic feedback though is because we are lacking physical buttons and the small vibration gives us the sense of a solid keyboard even though as you stated everything is a touch screen. Well that is my 2 cents anyway.
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Tasker can be a friend in this whole deal too.
If you can automate your radios & screen brightness to exactly what you need when you need it you can save significant battery life.
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I will definitely look into tasker and check it out personally and add it to the list later! Thanks!
Update: I have seen programs or apps like this before many moons ago i used a program called wisyncplus and basically it is just profiles. This I guess could be used to increase battery life, but in my opinion apps like this and Juice Defender and what not are simply 1) too much of a hassle - cause you have to usually set up each profile individually 2)This is more of a convenience - It doesn't actually increase battery life it is just a manager almost like a widget.
Than back to your argument about the screen brightness my auto-adjust does just fine depending on the lighting and honestly in less your watching a movie, playing video games, or doing intense web browsing your more than likely not even gonna have your screen on that long. (and to those of you that say the Auto-Adjust doesn't work remember that this is an LCD screen it is lit from behind so it is gonna seem brighter unlike the Nexus S which is lit in the screen making it viewable with less brightness)
Than for automating radios honestly there is already widgets for that. The stock rom comes with a Wifi on/off widget so no complaints there, and elixir(which is a free and very useful app) comes with a apn off/on widget which is really all you need cause in my experience unless my internet is on I see no difference in battery life being GSM preferred over WCDMA preferred.
So in less you really do have a tight schedule, or just don't wanna mess with changing settings manually(and with widgets), Yes, Tasker is perfect cause it basically does everything for you.(even though i am pretty sure there are free apps exactly like Tasker)
(Sorry if this came off kinda rude I don't mean to flame at all just trying to say all of my opinion and back it up as best i can)
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this is still not acceptable for a phone in 2011 to still have that kind of battery, most people out there aren't really concerned about tweaking their phones or dont even know about it. Im not gonna use setCPU or anything else, i expect things just to work flawlessly out of the box.
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if this is the case, i don't think that an open-source phone is for you. the beauty of android is that anyone can personalize it and tinker with it.
the g2x is sort of like a muscle car- it has lots of [dual core]power, but the trade off is trying to manage battery life.
spencersir2 said:
I think the reason we have so much haptic feedback though is because we are lacking physical buttons and the small vibration gives us the sense of a solid keyboard even though as you stated everything is a touch screen. Well that is my 2 cents anyway.
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For the sake of min/maxing battery drain I would think toggling the vibrate after every input would help. I actually like the keyboard without it pulsing all the damn time. And my hearing might be a little sensitive to where I dislike the fart sounding vibrate motor. Haha.
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if this is the case, i don't think that an open-source phone is for you. the beauty of android is that anyone can personalize it and tinker with it.
the g2x is sort of like a muscle car- it has lots of [dual core]power, but the trade off is trying to manage battery life.
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Couldn't have said it better myself. This is exactly why I am a huge android supporter/early adopter, a car fanatic, and a Mechanical Engineering major. Because I love the individuality of it all and to be able to own something that can be unique to me.
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With all of these changes having a toggle for haptic feedback I assume would help a ton...considering its a touchscreen and a retardedly fast phone. Otherwise it vibrates on every damn user input. Just curious what others think about this. Anyways, thanks for this post....the forum is getting congested.
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I dont think turning off haptic feedback will really make to much of a difference in terms of battery use.
Our phones are dual core phones, in every test run dual core phones have less of a battery draw because two cpus is better then one. When dealing with a multicore phone/computer the device can have more power without using more energy because there is less stress on the cores. The old way was a bigger battery drainer then this because 1 core would have to use more energy to produce equal amount of power that a 2 core setup would. As spencer said and we have all been saying its more of a software issue then a hardware issue. Imagine loading a computer with 24gbs of memory and have an core i7-Xtream chipset and using windows 7 32bit its pretty much a waste. I believe a lot of the issues that everyone is experiencing will be fixed by a software update or the dev team when roms of the gingerbread nature come out.
Spencer nice post btw!
So I love the phone but I just can't stand this battery anymore I'm starting to think t mobile gave me a used battery. Ive tried draining the battery to 0 then charging it to 100 nothing. I tried the restart nothing. I work from 8 to 4 and I start the day with 100 and end with 10 if I'm lucky! As I'm typing this its at 87% and its only 9:04. Running services like app pack car home and such are off wifi is off brightness at 50 and I kill tasks a lot with ATK can someone please give me a step by step on how to calibrate even if I have to mod the phone Thank you =)
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I'm having the same issue as well. I just received my phone yesterday and I charged it fully last night and kept it unplugged over night. Overnight it only lost about 3%. But after medium ussage this morning which consisted of checking email/texting/surfing the web, the battery dropped a significant 25% over the course of 40 minutes. Any suggestions?
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Root phone if you havent already
Charge phone to 100%
Flash clockworkrecovery
Boot into recovery and under the advanced menu select "Wipe Battery Stats"
Reboot
Rocco0891 said:
I'm having the same issue as well. I just received my phone yesterday and I charged it fully last night and kept it unplugged over night. Overnight it only lost about 3%. But after medium ussage this morning which consisted of checking email/texting/surfing the web, the battery dropped a significant 25% over the course of 40 minutes. Any suggestions?
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That kind of behavior is normal. The phone loses very little while idle but checking email and web surfing both require a data connection and that uses a lot of power. More usage = faster battery drain.
My galaxy s would easily last a full day with constant email/text and a couple hours of talk. This phone doesn't even seem to be able to last me a few hours. Do you also experience this significant battery loss?
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You prolly need to do a factory reset. For some reason some peoples phones use more power even at idle than they should. My phone was one of them. There is a whole thread about it but pretty much doing a factory reset should correct this issue. Did for me. I get almost twice the battery life of my Galaxy S.
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Root phone if you havent already
Charge phone to 100%
Flash clockworkrecovery
Boot into recovery and under the advanced menu select "Wipe Battery Stats"
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No need to go into recovery to wipe the stats, just use Battery Calibration(requires root) its in the market and also includes instructions on how to use the app.
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No need to go into recovery to wipe the stats, just use Battery Calibration(requires root) its in the market and also includes instructions on how to use the app.
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true story. ive never used it so it didnt come to mind lol.
In the passed hour I've now lost 40%. That can't be right, can it? :/ I'm running everything stock btw and I'm unfamiliar with rooting and things of that nature.
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I had the same problem. I followed the thread below and it worked. I've ben getting 10-15 on moderate-heavy use. I also did the htc battery calibration before I ran the battery calibration app. I use juice defender as well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1054420
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Rocco0891 said:
In the passed hour I've now lost 40%. That can't be right, can it? :/ I'm running everything stock btw and I'm unfamiliar with rooting and things of that nature.
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Check out the link jsauce75 posted. If you are running stock that means you most likely have background services running that are pulling significant battery. You will need to root and then use titanium backup to either remove or freeze those services.
Before doing that thought I would download Battery Monitor Widget. Use it to see how much power (mA) your phone is using. When I first got mine I was draining battery fast and when I used that widget I learned that the phone was using over 100mA even when idle. It was like the phone would never go into a sleep state. After doing a factory reset my phone idles at 1-2mA.
There isnt much you can do about battery drain while you use the phone because the screen and data connection are huge battery drains. All these tips are to improve your power consumption while idling. As I said before all I have done is factory reset and removed unneeded services and I have been getting double the battery life of my Galaxy S with the exact same apps and usage for weeks now.
Rocco0891 said:
In the passed hour I've now lost 40%. That can't be right, can it? :/ I'm running everything stock btw and I'm unfamiliar with rooting and things of that nature.
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1) You said you're using ATK "a lot". This is adding fuel to the fire. ATK is not needed with today's android systems. These apps you see sitting in ATK are sitting dormant. It's like the task manager of a computer. I have 3-4 apps running in my system tray and around 20 other services running in my task manager.. They are all sitting dormant, using zero CPU. They have ram allocated to them. That's it. That's the same as the Android. They are sitting dormant, and they have memory allocated to them. The best thing about the android OS is that it will automatically shut down dormant apps on its own. A PC doesn't do that. So, look at it this way. Let's say I'm on my laptop's battery. I have 20 apps/services running, and they are dormant. They are doing nothing towards drainage of my battery. But, I decide to turn on my screen "a lot" during the day, and kill the apps. Boom... Battery usage for the CPU to turn the screen on, the screen takes away from the battery, usage for the task monitor to be running.. Then, there is a process to shut down the apps, that takes battery.. Then on top of all that.. When the apps restart on their own.. guess what, they have CPU/Battery usage. You're adding fuel to the fire.... a lot of it, imho.
2) Install Watchdog and Titanium Backup (pay the small fee so you can freeze the apps.. or you can learn how to manually remove them yourself. I like using the app). Now, just to prove the point.. Open up ATK... Then go into Watchdog.. You'll see the apps that are running in ATK are not using any CPU. But.. when they do start up/shut down, there is some usage going on that will contribute. So with Titanium backup, freeze the apps. The apps I have frozen: AppPack, Broswer (have dolphin installed instead), Car home (2 of them?), com.android.provider. applications, com.logmein.resecuesecurity and .rescue, email (using gmail instead), My account (2 of them?), nfs shift, nova, street view, tmo TV, tegrazone, telenav, videochat voice dialer, zinio reader, zsprovider. From there, you can see the apps running in watchdog and you don't need ATK.. But, watchdog also uses processor to "monitor" the usage of other apps.. So place the threshold setting at like 40%, and the frequency at 3 or 5min. This will keep Watchdog from using too much battery, but it'll also notify you if an app is running wild on cpu usage. Maybe for 1 day, put the threshold at 30% or maybe even 20%.. so you can see if 1 or 2 apps are using a lot of power. If they are system apps or apps you want.. just leave em be. If they are not, freeze them/uninstall them.
3) I have found that using wifi and wifi calling GREATLY increases my battery life. As soon as I turn on 2g/3g/4g... my battery starts to take a fast dive. Whenever possible, use wifi/wifi calling...
4) Screen down to the lowest brightness setting. Shut off screen manually whneever you are done, or set it to 15sec shut off. I only bump up the brightness when i'm outdoors.. The glare makes the low setting impossible to see the screen.
5) Shut off syncing, bluetooth, and gps unless you need it. If you're around a computer at all where you can get your email and such, there is no need to use the phone for it. I only use tmo's network and syncing when I'm away from work or the house... typically when I'm on the road.
Lastly, yes, some people want to use their phone... use the 4g service.. etc. I understand.. But also understand that if you're going to use the phone like a computer.. and you're going to get 8hrs out of the battery... I say that's pretty dam good. This post is not meant to say that there is nothing wrong w/ the battery... It's to help you out to determine if there is a problem in the first place. There was a guy complaining about battery usage left and right. When I got involved in disussions with him, he admitted that he's on his phone all day long... txting quite a bit. Well.. duh?
I don't doubt there could be some challenges with a bad app running wild, a bad battery, etc. But I also don't doubt there are people who are using the crap out of a dual core phone.. and are doing things themselves to add to the problem... and then they blame the phone.
That's my 2c....
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1) You said you're using ATK "a lot". This is adding fuel to the fire. ATK is not needed with today's android systems. These apps you see sitting in ATK are sitting dormant. It's like the task manager of a computer. I have 3-4 apps running in my system tray and around 20 other services running in my task manager.. They are all sitting dormant, using zero CPU. They have ram allocated to them. That's it. That's the same as the Android. They are sitting dormant, and they have memory allocated to them. The best thing about the android OS is that it will automatically shut down dormant apps on its own. A PC doesn't do that. So, look at it this way. Let's say I'm on my laptop's battery. I have 20 apps/services running, and they are dormant. They are doing nothing towards drainage of my battery. But, I decide to turn on my screen "a lot" during the day, and kill the apps. Boom... Battery usage for the CPU to turn the screen on, the screen takes away from the battery, usage for the task monitor to be running.. Then, there is a process to shut down the apps, that takes battery.. Then on top of all that.. When the apps restart on their own.. guess what, they have CPU/Battery usage. You're adding fuel to the fire.... a lot of it, imho.
2) Install Watchdog and Titanium Backup (pay the small fee so you can freeze the apps.. or you can learn how to manually remove them yourself. I like using the app). Now, just to prove the point.. Open up ATK... Then go into Watchdog.. You'll see the apps that are running in ATK are not using any CPU. But.. when they do start up/shut down, there is some usage going on that will contribute. So with Titanium backup, freeze the apps. The apps I have frozen: AppPack, Broswer (have dolphin installed instead), Car home (2 of them?), com.android.provider. applications, com.logmein.resecuesecurity and .rescue, email (using gmail instead), My account (2 of them?), nfs shift, nova, street view, tmo TV, tegrazone, telenav, videochat voice dialer, zinio reader, zsprovider. From there, you can see the apps running in watchdog and you don't need ATK.. But, watchdog also uses processor to "monitor" the usage of other apps.. So place the threshold setting at like 40%, and the frequency at 3 or 5min. This will keep Watchdog from using too much battery, but it'll also notify you if an app is running wild on cpu usage. Maybe for 1 day, put the threshold at 30% or maybe even 20%.. so you can see if 1 or 2 apps are using a lot of power. If they are system apps or apps you want.. just leave em be. If they are not, freeze them/uninstall them.
3) I have found that using wifi and wifi calling GREATLY increases my battery life. As soon as I turn on 2g/3g/4g... my battery starts to take a fast dive. Whenever possible, use wifi/wifi calling...
4) Screen down to the lowest brightness setting. Shut off screen manually whneever you are done, or set it to 15sec shut off. I only bump up the brightness when i'm outdoors.. The glare makes the low setting impossible to see the screen.
5) Shut off syncing, bluetooth, and gps unless you need it. If you're around a computer at all where you can get your email and such, there is no need to use the phone for it. I only use tmo's network and syncing when I'm away from work or the house... typically when I'm on the road.
Lastly, yes, some people want to use their phone... use the 4g service.. etc. I understand.. But also understand that if you're going to use the phone like a computer.. and you're going to get 8hrs out of the battery... I say that's pretty dam good. This post is not meant to say that there is nothing wrong w/ the battery... It's to help you out to determine if there is a problem in the first place. There was a guy complaining about battery usage left and right. When I got involved in disussions with him, he admitted that he's on his phone all day long... txting quite a bit. Well.. duh?
I don't doubt there could be some challenges with a bad app running wild, a bad battery, etc. But I also don't doubt there are people who are using the crap out of a dual core phone.. and are doing things themselves to add to the problem... and then they blame the phone.
That's my 2c....
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Thanks for the great detailed response. The OP actually was the one who stated he uses ATK, I don't. I looked through the thread with the recommendations for 20+ hour battery life and noticed that those apps you mentioned above required rooting the phone. I hate to sound so naive when it comes to this stuff but i'm a fairly new android user and have not yet discovered a lot of the technical aspects behind it all. I'm not exactly sure what rooting is and what it entails. Is it something you suggest I do? Also, my battery is slowly approaching 0%. Should I let it drain all the way before charging it again? Others suggested letting it drain all the way and doing a factory reset and that seemed to help their issues.
By default Android restricts certain areas of the OS from being accessed by third-party applications (prolly for security reasons). Only problem is a lot of great apps require such access to function properly. In order to give them that access you must root the phone.
Here is the rooting thread. It is extremely easy to do.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1039985
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By default Android restricts certain areas of the OS from being accessed by third-party applications (prolly for security reasons). Only problem is a lot of great apps require such access to function properly. In order to give them that access you must root the phone.
Here is the rooting thread. It is extremely easy to do.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1039985
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Thanks.
Does rooting affect warranty in any way?
or the ability to perform a factory reset for that matter?
Rocco0891 said:
Thanks for the great detailed response. The OP actually was the one who stated he uses ATK, I don't. I looked through the thread with the recommendations for 20+ hour battery life and noticed that those apps you mentioned above required rooting the phone. I hate to sound so naive when it comes to this stuff but i'm a fairly new android user and have not yet discovered a lot of the technical aspects behind it all. I'm not exactly sure what rooting is and what it entails. Is it something you suggest I do? Also, my battery is slowly approaching 0%. Should I let it drain all the way before charging it again? Others suggested letting it drain all the way and doing a factory reset and that seemed to help their issues.
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New to android is not an excuse, I was a religious crackberry user for the last 8 years, and I just switched over to android last month. I'd suggest you to root you phone so that you can remove the stock cr4pwares, and the ability to install custom ROMs. Took me 10 mins to figured out how to install andriod OS into my hd2, 25 mins to perm rooted and unlocked my g2(this beast is little bit more "lockdown" than the other), and 5 mins to rooted the g2x. Google is your friend, bud. If you want something more out of your g2x, use the "search" button. Just my 2 cents.
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Thanks.
Does rooting affect warranty in any way?
or the ability to perform a factory reset for that matter?
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FYI: I'm a first time android user (smartphone user at that..) and I rooted my phone easily. You can unroot your phone just as easy as you rooted it. It's a 1 click method with that software.. check out the link. Seriously, it's easy.
You may have to have ABD ADB or whatever installed first.. Not sure. I heard about it, and did it... and then rooted.. and it worked.
Thanks for the help guys, appreciate it. I'll let you know how it goes
I'm also having another issue with the phone. I'll see if you guys can help without having to make a new thread.
Yesterday I installed Zedge and downloaded one of the wallpapers there. When I applied the wallpaper I noticed a bit of lag on my home screens, so I reverted back to the default wallpaper and the lag was still there. I deleted the app and wallpaper I downloaded but the lag was still there. I applied a default live wallpaper and the lag disappeared and everything was moving as smoothly as it had been originally, but when I apply the regular wallpaper the lag persists. Any ideas?
now if u do root and remove bloatware what all is safe to remove i have all but my account car home and i think one other can anyone provide a definite list and battery is significantly better after just that
LOL think there's not driver issues. Swapped a dead battery with a fully charges one today and been running almost 2 hours still shows 1%
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Hello,
I just recently got my Nexus S. So far I'm loving the phone but I have a couple of questions if they could be answered please, thank you.
1. I want to root my phone but would at no cost want to lose the way my phone acts and feels now. I really like stock Gingerbread and do not want to lose that. All I want root for is Titanium so that I can back my applications up. How do I do so? I just need root access; nothing else.
2. The battery on my phone dies petty quick. Granted, I use it a lot but it still drains pretty quick. I left it at night with about 40+ percent charge only to wake up 6 hours later with the phone being at about 20 something percent. Are there any recommendations for that?
3. I've got Advanced Task Killer on my phone and most of the times I hardly have about a 100 MB of free RAM despite killing all active tasks. Even on my old Motorola Dext I had about the same amount. Why?
Thank you very much for your time and patience.
Regards.
1. Rooting won't do anything to your stock rom except root it. There are guides in the development section on how to root.
2. Not sure why battery life is that bad on yours.
3. Task killers aren't recommended anymore since android handles tasks well. It has been said that using task killers can actually slow down your phone and worsen battery life.
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whisky_ said:
Hello,
I just recently got my Nexus S. So far I'm loving the phone but I have a couple of questions if they could be answered please, thank you.
1. I want to root my phone but would at no cost want to lose the way my phone acts and feels now. I really like stock Gingerbread and do not want to lose that. All I want root for is Titanium so that I can back my applications up. How do I do so? I just need root access; nothing else.
2. The battery on my phone dies petty quick. Granted, I use it a lot but it still drains pretty quick. I left it at night with about 40+ percent charge only to wake up 6 hours later with the phone being at about 20 something percent. Are there any recommendations for that?
3. I've got Advanced Task Killer on my phone and most of the times I hardly have about a 100 MB of free RAM despite killing all active tasks. Even on my old Motorola Dext I had about the same amount. Why?
Thank you very much for your time and patience.
Regards.
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1. Gingerbreak.
2. How long have you had your phone? Mine took a solid two weeks before my battery life got really good.
3. What do you want that much free RAM for? The more your phone loads applications in to RAM, the faster it will be. If you want good performance, then having lots of "free RAM" should not be your goal.
Thanks for the responses. GingerBreak didn't work for me so I just went with the adb way. I've had my phone for about 5 days now so if the battery sets in with time, I guess I'm good then. And about the RAM, I would imagine more RAM would mean more speed? As the system wouldn't be bogged down.
Thank you.
whisky_ said:
Thanks for the responses. GingerBreak didn't work for me so I just went with the adb way. I've had my phone for about 5 days now so if the battery sets in with time, I guess I'm good then. And about the RAM, I would imagine more RAM would mean more speed? As the system wouldn't be bogged down.
Thank you.
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dont use task killers. it kills more battery if you turn on the autokill. as for your ram concerns, since 2.3(gingerbread update) the android os itself does a pretty good job on memory handling so you have the ram when you need em.
Sorry if this has been asked
I just got my g2x and the battery isn't that good like the mytouch 4g
So can someone suggest a good app to download. I currently only have app killer
It really isnt good to use task killers on phones because it can screw with the Roms and such, but a good app to use would be something like Juice Defender. Hope this helped!
So get rid of task killer and download juice defender. Is there a specific set up I should use. I don't want it to interfere with me getting calls or text messages
androidlove91 said:
So get rid of task killer and download juice defender. Is there a specific set up I should use. I don't want it to interfere with me getting calls or text messages
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It comes with several presets. I use balanced, doesn't effect radio(I don't think any of them do), but one kool thing it does is stop data when your screen is off. That alone gave me a extra 3 to 4 hours, easy. It has a lot of kool other features to help. Advanced task killer- no noticeable difference. Juice defender- anywhere from 3 to 5 hours.
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Unless you buy the premium version of Juice Defender there is no way to configure for individual apps. I though data off when the screen goes off would be great, but if you need your POP Email in a timely manner it does not work so well.
I have not used it in a while, so someone correct me if I am wrong.
I am going to try Autostarts from the Android market tonight and see if stopping all the runaway apps helps.
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Unless you buy the premium version of Juice Defender there is no way to configure for individual apps. I though data off when the screen goes off would be great, but if you need your POP Email in a timely manner it does not work so well.
I have not used it in a while, so someone correct me if I am wrong.
I am going to try Autostarts from the Android market tonight and see if stopping all the runaway apps helps.
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If you have the free version of JD (I do) you can set up your schedule so that JD automagically enables data every few minutes to sync background data. I have it set up as 30 minutes.
Click the "custom" setup in JD. You can also buy the premium version which will give you much more control in the settings dept.
OP,
Used to come from MT4G?? I'm getting WAYYYYYY better battery life compared to my previous MT4G, but maybe that's just me. (I also like the G2x WAYYYY better)
I am also coming from a Mytouch 4G and so far only tried out 1 MIUI rom and still new but got 8 and a half hours of really heavy use with 10% when I got home which I think is pretty good I like this phone much better and notice it's way more faster and less laggy only thing is personally it's not as sexy looking as my white Mytouch 4G was I actually think the design of this phone is kind of weird hoping it looks a little better with a nice case.
For Juice Defender, YMMV. I tried it and my battery life was worse compared to without it.
I admit to using Andro Task Killer. Unlike other task killers it doesn't kill system tasks. I tested it and it improves my battery life by 15%.
Also, install a good firewall like DroidWall and ruthlessly deny internet access to any application that does not depend upon it. This will save you lots of battery life.
Get SetCPU and set a profile to tune your CPU frequency to the minimum when your screen is off.
I use watchdog. When a rogue app gets over 30% cpu running in the background I close it. Helped me more than juice defender.
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Little bit of advice... App killers are not that great because they will kill all apps and then all those apps will start again draining more battery than they would just quietly running in the background
I also recommend watchdog to kill apps one by one if u want and monitor rogue alps
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noobletsausecakebbq said:
Little bit of advice... App killers are not that great because they will kill all apps and then all those apps will start again draining more battery than they would just quietly running in the background
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Task killers don't work like that.
As I wrote, I did my own testing and the correct use of a Andro Task Killer extends my battery life by 15%.
EEngineer said:
Task killers don't work like that.
As I wrote, I did my own testing and the correct use of a Andro Task Killer extends my battery life by 15%.
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Actually they do, take a stock rom, unrooted and use a task killer to kill the ton of garbage running then wait a couple of minutes and check back again, there will be at least a few of those killed apps running again, if not more, not to mention any background services that are supposed to be running that likely didn't get killed.
If excess apps running are draining battery life either uninstall some, or if they are stock apps then root+freeze, no more irritating apps running in the background to drain battery life.
Edit: Also, apps like ATK run in the background as well, draining battery life as well, on top of the apps trying to run. Similar with Juice Defender, it's always running, I noticed improvement not only in system performance but battery life after I uninstalled Juice Defender.
The only "batery saver" app that does anything is the one from AnTutu, but it underclocks your CPU and who knows what else, so even that is a double edge sword.
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Actually they do, take a stock rom, unrooted and use a task killer to kill the ton of garbage running then wait a couple of minutes and check back again, there will be at least a few of those killed apps running again, if not more, not to mention any background services that are supposed to be running that likely didn't get killed.
If excess apps running are draining battery life either uninstall some, or if they are stock apps then root+freeze, no more irritating apps running in the background to drain battery life.
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Look, why don't you run your own tests with Andro Task Killer? What you wrote is not completely accurate, and does not change the fact that I get 15% more battery life with my task killer, Period.
That is because some apps spawn background tasks that stay running after you close the app. These background tasks are made difficult to identify without using an advanced task manager like Elixir. They might use your data connection to send background data, or a poorly written app can keep your phone awake. Both ruins battery life.
I use jd ultimate being able to have your antennas off saves batteries period. Not to mention the hundreds of features to tweak it i get substantial battery savings with jd. I am unfortunatly against task killers... i use antek to just freeze the annoying apps instead of killing them over and over and keeping another uneccesary app running...
Making bad decision's one at a time.
Oh p.s. owning a g2x=bad battery life period.
Making bad decision's one at a time.
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Oh p.s. owning a g2x=bad battery life period.
Making bad decision's one at a time.
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Lol EXACTLY the g2x was a bad investment, can't wait till I get my gs2
HOTLANTA, even though its cold ;-)
I.R.Chevy said:
I use jd ultimate being able to have your antennas off saves batteries period. Not to mention the hundreds of features to tweak it i get substantial battery savings with jd. I am unfortunatly against task killers... i use antek to just freeze the annoying apps instead of killing them over and over and keeping another uneccesary app running...
Making bad decision's one at a time.
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JD ultimate really helps in addition to setcpu and some undervolting.
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h22aboi said:
If you have the free version of JD (I do) you can set up your schedule so that JD automagically enables data every few minutes to sync background data. I have it set up as 30 minutes.
Click the "custom" setup in JD. You can also buy the premium version which will give you much more control in the settings dept.
OP,
Used to come from MT4G?? I'm getting WAYYYYYY better battery life compared to my previous MT4G, but maybe that's just me. (I also like the G2x WAYYYY better)
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Do you use POP email? My email is set for 30 minutes. JD was set at 30 and then 15. I missed emails for hours. Love to squeak an extra hour or 2 out of the battery. I am using stock email on 2.3.
Thanks