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Issue with charger

When I bought the Infuse Wednesday, I was excited to discover that the charging port is the same as my Bluetooth headset (Plantronics Voyager Pro) but while using the phone at work with the charger plugged in for the last 4 hours, I noticed my battery is around 20%. So my question is, do chargers and data cables made for other products not work with the Infuse? And if so, WHY!?
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i can't tell you offhand exactly why but its definitely true. My wifes samsung focus (wp7) charger actually doesnt charge my phone faster than it dies unless I am doing absolutely nothing on it. My phone actually died watching a movie through the hdmi out using her charger. And of course it died with 6 minutes to go. If I find any more info as to the "why" part I will be sure to post. But I wanted to let you know the charger definitely makes a difference
ok so I found a better answer: even though they all use the same voltage. Those 5v chargers have 1 main difference. Different Amperage. Some chargers output only .5A, while others put out 1A. These differences will in turn make the difference between how fast or well it charges your device. This is info I gathered so take it with a grain of salt. If anyone has a better answer or can elaborate feel free to do so!!

Ok, this does make sense. The charger I've been using all night is 5V 180mA... Not all that powerful. Just didn't think it would leave me at 5% 8 hours into my night shift...
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Pat713 said:
When I bought the Infuse Wednesday, I was excited to discover that the charging port is the same as my Bluetooth headset (Plantronics Voyager Pro) but while using the phone at work with the charger plugged in for the last 4 hours, I noticed my battery is around 20%. So my question is, do chargers and data cables made for other products not work with the Infuse? And if so, WHY!?
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Plantronics headset chargers are rated, at MOST, 300 mA. (That's what the one that came with my 975 is rated.)
Our phones need at LEAST 500 mA. The wall charger is rated 700 mA, if you want to run navigation in a car dock it looks like you need at least 1000 mA.
Also, our chargers signal that a "dumb charger" is present by shorting D+ and D- together. I'm not sure what our phones will do with chargers that don't do this (at the moment I'm assuming the phone goes into USB charging mode instead of AC.) In the case of the car dock, what the charger does is irrelevant, as the dock signals its presence in another way and does not pass through D- and D+ from the charger. (D+ and D- go to the audio line out of the dock.)
Also, our phone (and likely many others) assume that they can get whatever current is needed from the charger, so if the charger "droops", it doesn't seem to do anything other than act weird (in most cases, drain the battery).

And another problem I found.. When I first got my Infuse, I was thrilled to see that it used the same type of cable that several other devices I have used. MicroUSB...
So I tried charging with the cable & charger from my Kindle. No go.
It will charge with the Kindle charger, just not the Kindle USB cable. Which makes the 4 extra kindle cables I have useless..
If I had time and inclination, I'd set about to figure out what the difference is between the two cables.

One of the reasons I returned my Atrix and bought an Infuse was because None of my MICRO-USB chargers worked with the Atrix. So far they have all worked with my Infuse.

indymx said:
And another problem I found.. When I first got my Infuse, I was thrilled to see that it used the same type of cable that several other devices I have used. MicroUSB...
So I tried charging with the cable & charger from my Kindle. No go.
It will charge with the Kindle charger, just not the Kindle USB cable. Which makes the 4 extra kindle cables I have useless..
If I had time and inclination, I'd set about to figure out what the difference is between the two cables.
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That's odd, I was able to use the usb cable that came with my kindle 3.
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One thing I learned working at multiple cell phone places: Motorola phones are PICKY when it comes to chargers. Sprint basically has an ongoing memo to every tech, moto phones are ONLY to be used with moto chargers. It makes no real sense, but it's true.

I've also noticed that my iGo charger takes a good bit less time for a full charge than what came with the phone. Also, not using the adapter and plugging the phone directly into a computer via USB, also makes charging faster. I this k the problem is the USB adapter that Samsung tossed in. Just my .02!
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One thing - phones vary widely in how they determine that a "dumb charger" is connected.
Samsungs look for D- and D+ shorted to each other. A lot of generic chargers (like the $1.25 Monoprice car chargers) do this.
Apple devices look for weird resistor combinations from D- and D+ to +5 and ground. See http://www.ladyada.net/make/mintyboost/icharge.html
Mini-USB motos used weird combos of resistors to D- and D+ along with resistors between a normally unconnected pin and GND. MicroUSB defines this extra pin as "ID". Our phone uses resistors between ID and GND to determine if "other" devices are connected, such as the Jig, Car Dock, Home Dock, etc. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=820275 for more details.
The MicroUSB cable that came from our phones is pretty thin-gauge wire. I have a cable from Monoprice that should work MUCH better at high currents, and HAS worked better at high currents with the car dock and an iPad charger. (Without the car dock, it gets seen as a USB charger due to the funky iCharging resistors mentioned above. The car dock works because it doesn't pass USB D+ and D- from the charger to the phone.)
WARNING: I reference the Monoprice cheapo chargers above. They claim they are a 1A charger but they are NOT. They have a resistor that sets peak switch current of the regulator to 600 mA, and output current is going to be less than this.

LG Op One Charger?

So I broke my Optimus One LG original charger, and I can't find an original LG charger anywhere! I've gone through two local chargers, but they don't last more than two weeks with me.
Would another company's phone's Micro USB charger be alright for my phone? Any specific company or phone which would best suit the Optimus One?
I'm asking because I used to think all Micro USB chargers are the same, but the local ones used to screw my touchscreen up if they were plugged into my phone for 30 mins or so.

A generic USB charger is fine. The way the phone is wired in side determines if it is going to pull 3volts or 5 volts from the usb charger. If you were trying to charge an Ipad then you need to find a high output charger. I've been using my HTC usb charger and Ipad charger on my OP and it has been charging fine.
That's the beauty of Europe mandating phones have the micro usb chargers. No Vasaline required when you need to buy a new charger and cable.

Androids are sensitive to chargers, but any half decent MicroUSB charger should see you through. (The roadside ones don't qualify as half decent ofc )
I carry my Kindle charger usually since it's very compact and many Indian buildings have moved to sockets that take both Indian and American plugs, and it works fine with the phone.

istoner said:
Androids are sensitive to chargers
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I do not think the oparating system will make any difference in charging....

Blackberry's charger works
Perfect.
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Im just using a moto cable and a blue ant wall plug, now It charges fine, but I used my friends microusb bb charger, and it pumps out more power. Are there cables wired diffrently?
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blackberry chargers and moto chargers have the data pins shorted in the charger themselves. This is because they have have high speed/low speed charging detection system (as do most android phones now).
If the data pins are shorted, the charging rate is up to 1000ma, without the data pins shorted, many phones limit the charging rate to 500ma. This is to keep the phone from shorting out USB ports on computers by drawing too much power through them. The wall adapters that require separate USB cables don't always have that, or they limit the power output to about 750ma. The dozen or so smartphones in my office require about 700ma to operate, so the effective charge rate is +50ma, which takes FOREVER to charge.
I took an old 5v 1200ma wall wart from a router and cut the end off and soldered on a USB connecter (with the data pins shorted) now I can plug use those multi-plug extendable USB cables for charging any kind of phone just by putting in the right adapter tip. My P509TN will charge from dead to 100% in just over an hour.

connector charger jack broken
I don't think this is the perfect post, but I don't find anything else...
I've broke my connector charge jack...any idea how I can charge my phone?!(lg Optimus One)

sergiuz said:
I don't think this is the perfect post, but I don't find anything else...
I've broke my connector charge jack...any idea how I can charge my phone?!(lg Optimus One)
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There are universal battery chargers which take the battery directly
Search for those on eBay or maybe local shops..
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sergiuz said:
I don't think this is the perfect post, but I don't find anything else...
I've broke my connector charge jack...any idea how I can charge my phone?!(lg Optimus One)
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Go to LG service center, you will surely get a charger there! I got one two months ago!
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Blackberry's charger works fine
Blackberry's charger works fine for me....
using my brothers BB charger for quite sometime.....

Deltamax2 said:
Blackberry's charger works fine for me....
using my brothers BB charger for quite sometime.....
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yup, me too...
all micro usb works for me

I'm using nokia's one and working fine...

I have the LG original charger, but everynight I use a Samsung charger near my bed, because it has the wire longer, but you can't separate it to do a usb wire. Anyway I only use it for charging in the night. I think every charger that fit your jack is fine. Like everything in this world, if it fits, then it's ok.

chalo99 said:
Like everything in this world, if it fits, then it's ok.
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True... I'm hardly ever using the original LG charger. Any micro-USB cable will work. I used HTC, Samsung, Kindle, etc. so far. And my battery's still working splendidly

Good Car Charger?

Does anyone know of a good car charger? You know, the kind that plugs into your cigarette lighter socket.
I had one at one time but it died after only a week of usage.

I got this one and it works fine with a spare microusb cable. Best part is that I can now have two phones charging at once.

Thanks!
At only $8, that's a steal of a deal! Just bought it with free two-day shipping.

Should have checked Monoprice
http://www.monoprice.com/mobile/Pro...Id=103&categoryId=10321&subCategoryId=1032102
There used to be a twin plug one (I have it) but I can't find it now.
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trparky said:
Does anyone know of a good car charger? You know, the kind that plugs into your cigarette lighter socket.
I had one at one time but it died after only a week of usage.
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In my opinion... I have wasted alot of $ on trying to get away cheap on a car charger. By far the best one is the official verizon one. It charges to 100% from 0 in less than 2hrs and charges while I am navigating, wifi tethering and using bt at the same time. Well worth the extra cash.
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imnuts said:
I got this one and it works fine with a spare microusb cable. Best part is that I can now have two phones charging at once.
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I got a similar one, but it has one port meant for an ipad/tablet, which outputs 2A - that is helpful for when I am running car navigation and wifi hotspot at the same time. I also had to get a charging-only usb cable because regular cables would trigger usb storage mode on the phone.

ddh819 said:
I got a similar one, but it has one port meant for an ipad/tablet, which outputs 2A - that is helpful for when I am running car navigation and wifi hotspot at the same time. I also had to get a charging-only usb cable because regular cables would trigger usb storage mode on the phone.
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To bad the Charge won't draw more than ~0.8A... Also, it is the charger causing the phone to go to mass storage mode, not the cable. A microUSB cable is a microUSB cable, and if the cable says "charging only" they have the data pins shorted out (I believe that's what is done) and it really isn't fixing the root cause of the issue.

imnuts said:
I got this one and it works fine with a spare microusb cable. Best part is that I can now have two phones charging at once.
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nowai! That's the same car charger I use!
Only thing about it is, its a little short, so it may not fit perfectly in every car's cigarette lighter port. Won't work in my dad's car. :/

imnuts said:
To bad the Charge won't draw more than ~0.8A... Also, it is the charger causing the phone to go to mass storage mode, not the cable. A microUSB cable is a microUSB cable, and if the cable says "charging only" they have the data pins shorted out (I believe that's what is done) and it really isn't fixing the root cause of the issue.
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Did you ever try fastcharger script? It suppose to speed up your phone charger using USB.

mtmerrick said:
nowai! That's the same car charger I use!
Only thing about it is, its a little short, so it may not fit perfectly in every car's cigarette lighter port. Won't work in my dad's car. :/
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It is short, but works perfectly in my car. I don't even have to take it out to close my cigarette lighter, so it just stays there
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Did you ever try fastcharger script? It suppose to speed up your phone charger using USB.
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The only way you could speed up charging would be to modify it via the kernel, or try to force load a module that does the same thing. Odds are the fastcharger script just gets the system to recognize USB charging as a wall charger. Either way, I wouldn't recommend using anything that says it'll make your phone charge faster unless there was SIGNIFICANT data to support the claim as well as evidence that it doesn't harm the hardware.

Charging the battery too fast is very dangerous too. I tried "supercharging" one of my batteries and it almost caught fire.
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I would suggest this one http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Rapid-Vehicle-Power-Adapter/dp/B002N8HG0Y/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1329181948&sr=1-2 since it is made by moto and provides 1 ampere instead of .7 or .5 others provide.

trparky said:
Does anyone know of a good car charger? You know, the kind that plugs into your cigarette lighter socket.
I had one at one time but it died after only a week of usage.
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This is a great charger I have been using at it charges my battery quick too.. http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000S5Q9CA/ref=mp_s_a_1?qid=1323055371&sr=8-1
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jager420 said:
This is a great charger I have been using at it charges my battery quick too.. http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000S5Q9CA/ref=mp_s_a_1?qid=1323055371&sr=8-1
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I've been using this for the past 5 months and have been very happy with the charging speed. It seems faster than my standard wall charger.

wahanlato said:
To bad the Charge won't draw more than ~0.8A... Also, it is the charger causing the phone to go to mass storage mode, not the cable. A microUSB cable is a microUSB ee
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It could be the cable, but the odds are against that. The way to tell if it was the cable would be to try it in another AC charger to see what it does.

, I wouldn't recommend using anything that says it'll make your phone charge faster unless there was SIGNIFICANT data to support the claim as well as evidence that it doesn't harm the hardware.

I tried a 2.0 amp USB car charger and the factory cable.. .my battery got really hot and didn't charge at all.. .not sure why but the 1.0 amp charger seems to work the best...I have seen a 5.0amp at Walmart in the car department.. .but I don't feel like experimenting with that
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Samsung smartphones and Tablets charge in std mode (Charging USB) unless the two data wires are "shorted". (I have seen it done directly in a high speed charge only cable or in the Samsung chargers. Some say they use a resistor.) When the data pins are "shorted", Samsung switches to high speed charging. (Charging AC). I have been harassing a factory overseas for a dual car charger (2100mA) with one std. Port (iPad) and one Samsung port. It should be available soon.
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Hindle1225 said:
In my opinion... I have wasted alot of $ on trying to get away cheap on a car charger. By far the best one is the official verizon one. It charges to 100% from 0 in less than 2hrs and charges while I am navigating, wifi tethering and using bt at the same time. Well worth the extra cash.
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I haven't tried another car charger personally, but can vouch for the Verizon one. Always works for me and I just leave it plugged in the lighter outlet in my center console so whenever I need it, it's easy and quick to plug in the phone. Also has the scrunchy style cord to keep things neat. But at the same time, it makes it more difficult to use the phone while it's plugged in as it keeps wanting to pull back lol

General battery questions and doubts

Well I'm little confusing now .
I have 2 charges.
One with out 5v 2000mah
Two with out 5v 10000mah
I noticed by my self but I need to be sure, big cables delays charge?
Before new systems, like ics and others updates on HTC Systems.
I always charged my phones with 1A.
Now even with 2A charger, some times my phone does not charge. Including some times if I use phone while charging battery decreases.
Maybe it is happening cause of my big cables?
What Is the influence of cables on wall charges?
Roms got influencing the charge time?
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Actually out of the only 3 charging options I have the walk charging is the longest. Will reviece full charge in
3 hours but via computer about 7 and just over that for ps3. Surely isn't wall charging always meant to be the most efficient way? When you said big cable, how long? Is it a USB extender? If so I'd say its the cable having problems, generally at the point of transfer from the original USB cable to the extended one.
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Well, longer cables means more resistance. Ohm's law says higher resistance, lower voyage and current. Longer cables could explain it in theory, but unless the cable is like 100 feet, I wouldn't be too worried.
Not sure where the issue lies.

Well, it's as simple as this, if you connect to a PC, the current through the USB cable is lesser (500-800mA). This means it will take a longer time to charge the device.
Now, for HTC standard wall socket charger, the output is 1A.
There are chargers that will definitely charge your phone faster, but it wouldn't be recommended as it will heat up the battery.
Now, as far as cables go, length isn't that important if we are talking about something less than 2-3 meters. But if you use an extension, there will be some current loss and also, if the extension quality isn't good enough, it will carry lesser current & take longer to charge your phone.
Also, it would be a good idea to leave your phone for a 5 hour charge on the standard HTC charger and then re-calibrate your battery. Often, a fresh ROM install may not give you the correct battery readings. So, charge to 100% and re-calibrate by flushing the battery stats bin file.

Well, the cables that i use is with more or less 4 meters.

brenopoubel said:
Well, the cables that i use is with more or less 4 meters.
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I think that one of the cables you use is bust then. It is true that longer the cable the increased reistance but its not even noticeable. Try experimenting with different cables and to see which one is deffective.
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Charging slow???

Out of the blue I noticed my S3 was charging very slowly, it even was losing a charge while it was plugged in while I was using it. I figure it had something to do with my custom ROM so I reflash, still same outcome. The battery was still holding a good charge, so I figured it was something else. I then went out and bought a new charger, which came with a micro usb cord to see if that helped. Plugged in the new charger while using my old micro usb cord, still same outcome. Then used the new micro usb cord and old charger, charging went back to normal, problem solved! I would of never thought that the cord would malfunction from day to day use after such a short lifespan. Moral of the story, check your cords if you experience the same problem, it could save you some time and money!

I bought some cheap ones off Amazon. They won't charge the s3 but will my touchpad. But my s3 charger won't charge my touchpad. Stuff is weird at times.
Glad it was an easy fix.
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Must have been charging in USB mode.
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I believe it, using my old galaxy nexus cord for my s3 charges extremely slow (like 200 mAh) for some reason. I switched to a different cord and now it's all good, I have no clue why but that's how it is.
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That's weird mine started doing the same thing just in the past few days. I have to unplug and plug it back in multiple times before it goes into AC mode
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I really think that those cheap cables don't charge nearly as fast. Especially the Stock Sammy ones. I use the thicker LG cables and they seem to charge so much fast and transfer files faster..

I just went through the same thing. The phone was charging for twelve hours and only gained 50 percent. Took forever to figure out it was the cord.
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USB Cable
I think charging AC is not fast charge.
You should to charge USB cable.
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cell128 said:
That's weird mine started doing the same thing just in the past few days. I have to unplug and plug it back in multiple times before it goes into AC mode
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That's what my phone was doing, I'd unplug then plug it back in and would go from USB to AC, but it still charged slow. That cable, no matter what it said, would still charge slow as balls.
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I had heard of "Buy Cheap, Buy Twice", but now we've got "Buy Cheap, Charge Twice"

A lot of times it's the DC power brick that makes the difference. Not all of them have the same power output. Rarely, if ever, is it the actual cord itself. USB cables use pretty thin gauge wire already and the only way you're going to get a difference from one cable to another would be if it was REALLY cheap and using an ultra-thin wire or if it was a REALLY long cable (increases in cable length equate to increased resistance to electrical transmission...)
All USB cables are 5 volts. However, there can be significant differences in the milliamp output for each DC adapter. Aside from being a computer geek and gamer who builds custom PC's, I happen to be a hotel General Manager. I just checked our catch-all box of phone chargers and found that while every charger has an output of 5v, the amperage put out varied from 350 mA to 1000 mA from one charger to the next.
This variance in output is why some chargers take so long as compared to others. I don't know what the actual Samsung charger output is, since my charger is at home, but my guess is it's between 800 and 1000 mA.

I use the stock BB charger to charge both my 9900 and GS3, the BB charges pretty normal but lately I've been having a problem with the charging time on my S3, I have to charge it everyday now, my usage isn't that heavy, it lasts me a day and a half normally. Going to start using the stock charger to see if there is a difference.

I'm using the Samsung stock charger after not having used it for a month and noticing that my battery levels have deteriorated after using my BB stock charger. The battery seems to be discharging while on the charger! I'm in for a world of pain, going to monitor it for a while. I could be stressing over nothing.