[Q] TF101 on ICS: Graphics crash while gaming - Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

All,
Since upgrading to ICS on my transformer, i have found that some graphically developed games tend to crash in the exact same manner... during some high graphic scene like an explosion or a car crash, etc the frame freezes and becomes distorted, all the while the sound is still going. A few seconds later the game crashes and im back to the home screen.
So far i have seen this on:
ShadowGun (non tegra optimized version)
Need for Speed Hot Pursuit
Frontline Commando (this one ive had before ICS for a while with no issue)
Has anyone seen anything like this? And more importantly does anyone know of a solution?

Rstyle98 said:
All,
Since upgrading to ICS on my transformer, i have found that some graphically developed games tend to crash in the exact same manner... during some high graphic scene like an explosion or a car crash, etc the frame freezes and becomes distorted, all the while the sound is still going. A few seconds later the game crashes and im back to the home screen.
So far i have seen this on:
ShadowGun (non tegra optimized version)
Need for Speed Hot Pursuit
Frontline Commando (this one ive had before ICS for a while with no issue)
Has anyone seen anything like this? And more importantly does anyone know of a solution?
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ICS is still under-developed ! I mean there are some minor bugs. NFS Hot Pursuit just froze a few mins ago for me !!!!! Used "force stop" and restart app......otherwise have to reboot. The devs are working on the latest update, and some ROMs are a little behind.
It's an annoyance, I know........but a minor one ??
Good luck !!

Yes, since going to ICS on my SGS2 Spiderman and a bunch of other Gameloft games have started crashing after a few minutes of running.
The audio is fine and and all in game videos also run without hitch, as soon as you start to play, blink its gone.
I have been in touch with Gameloft but as yet they are niether confirmning nor denying an issue with the games and ICS.
If anything of use comes from Gameloft I will update here.
Hope it can be sorted soon, my son is going mad with no Spiderman and Shrek Kart!

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Just an an FYI, I have found that after a reboot the games run fine for a while. I have actually started purposely rebooting after running for over 18hrs straight. after that the weird stuff (app crashes, display glitches, etc) is an almost certainty.

Gameloft have admitted issues with certain games and ICS. They asked me to email them details of game versions and ICS Builds and what exactly happened to produce the crash etc. (the usual stuff)
Apparently they are working on updates....? Hmmm we'll see.
Either way a barrage of techies emailing them software specs and demanding updates can only help.
The address I used was [email protected]
It took them days to reply each time but they did respond!

I had this happening on EOS build 12 with gangstar:rio and order&chaos, especially order and chaos.
Was probably a bug in the kernel, as they work just fine on eos 19.
nasty: I hope you told them to add TF support for all the games working on A500/xoom !

Unfortunatly, this problem still persist. There's a bunch of games I can't play on my TF101, even with stock rom.
Here's a small list
Magicka
Ice Age Village
Auralux
Bards Tale
This are basically, games that use high end graphics.
Is there a chance that my gpu/cpu is broken?

blackout_pt said:
Unfortunatly, this problem still persist. There's a bunch of games I can't play on my TF101, even with stock rom.
Here's a small list
Magicka
Ice Age Village
Auralux
Bards Tale
This are basically, games that use high end graphics.
Is there a chance that my gpu/cpu is broken?
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Like a 0.1% chance. The kernel in the stock Asus ROMs suck. They have been problematic with memory management (including graphics memory, which is likely the problem here) since the first Asus ICS release. Flash a better kernel (guevor's in ICS or KAT in JB) and try again.
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Can you suggest me a good rom please?
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blackout_pt said:
Can you suggest me a good rom please?
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Team EOS4 & KatKernel

Thank you
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blackout_pt said:
Thank you
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Make sure you have TWRP recovery installed first, CWM will give you a bootloop
Install GooManager here
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.s0up.goomanager
Open App > Hit Menu dots top right > Install OpenRecoveryScript

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Team EOS4 & KatKernel
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Thanks for the suggestion. I'm trying it right now.
Try it and it's working great Finally tablet is behaving like it should!

Related

New Tegra Game: History Great Battles - FAIL

Just thought I'd drop a line and warn everyone. I've been anxiously awaiting "History: Great Battles" for Tegra devices. Well sure enough it came out last night and to my dismay does not work on the G tablet (vegan ginger). Looks like the resolution or something is off - the menus work, but any movies/gameplay do not. The worst part is, the online download took 15 minutes which negated my "grace period" for return on the Android Market. I've written a letter to their dev team, but have not heard anything back.
Video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erUZxsdex8g&feature=channel_video_title
Could be just the last of video acceleration on giner rom's. I'm running the same rom on my tablet and watching anything on the zone doesn't work. It had worked fine when I was running a froyo rom, which supports acceleration.
I did read on the Vegan website, that he is working on video acceleration for his rom. Just might have to be patient or change rom's for now.
Hogtyde59 said:
Could be just the last of video acceleration on giner rom's. I'm running the same rom on my tablet and watching anything on the zone doesn't work. It had worked fine when I was running a froyo rom, which supports acceleration.
I did read on the Vegan website, that he is working on video acceleration for his rom. Just might have to be patient or change rom's for now.
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That would make sense if it was just the "video" aspect that was messing up, but does that apply to the actual game play? Samurai works just fine - as does everything else I try...
Why not try a froyo rom and see or wait for hardware acceleration to be fixed
thebadfrog said:
Why not try a froyo rom and see or wait for hardware acceleration to be fixed
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I'm flashing a froyo rom right now actually - its just a shame as I will sorely miss the Vegan Tab rom. Seems crappy to have to downgrade just to play a game
Well - it was the vegan ginger edition Back to Vegan 5.1.1 for me.
newbsauce said:
Well - it was the vegan ginger edition Back to Vegan 5.1.1 for me.
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So the game works well on vegan 5.1.1? How is it? Im thinking of getting it
Glad you have the game running, enjoy, hopefully soon down the road will get the acceleration. The Vegan gingerbread is a great rom.
Dang. I just flashed back to Vegan 5 for this game but it's not showing up in the market! I did the market fix a few times too. Hmm... Any ideas?
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got the download link to show up after doing the market fix about 8 times.
Not fail for me. Running Vegan5.1.1 and it is running great.
Runs like crap for me. Menus are okay....game play is bad...forever to load....not all graphics are there...unplayable. calkulin w persboot oc.
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Has anyone gotten this to run? It loads for me...gets past the first menu into the tutorial mission. Begins to load (graphics appear) and then crashes the tablet. Not an auspicious beginning. Considering this is specifically designed for Tegra 2 chips. I'm running vegan 5.11 by the by......
Macros
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newbsauce said:
I'm flashing a froyo rom right now actually - its just a shame as I will sorely miss the Vegan Tab rom. Seems crappy to have to downgrade just to play a game
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Actually, after trying out the new vegan tab ginger for a number of days, I'm glad to be back on froyo now. My experience with that is comparable to when I was on vista for a number of days before "downgrading" back to xp. Sure, it's "the new and flashy" thing, but I like stability more than "the new and flashy" thing.
Thought I'd update the thread - I flashed back to Froyo (Vegan 5.1.1) and was very excited to see the game start running. I jump into some of the missions and before I can move any troops, the game crashes and forces a total system reboot.
Looks like I'm going back to Vegan Ginger and waiting for acceleration. Wish I could get a refund.
tgruendler said:
Not fail for me. Running Vegan5.1.1 and it is running great.
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That's good news. I haven't actually tried playing it after installing so I don't know if I'll run into any of the issues others are having. I'll test it tomorrow and add my findings to this thread too.
Tried it on TNT Lite and the graphics are scrabled bit as to make it unplayable. sound was ok..
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Thought I'd update the thread - I flashed back to Froyo (Vegan 5.1.1) and was very excited to see the game start running. I jump into some of the missions and before I can move any troops, the game crashes and forces a total system reboot.
Looks like I'm going back to Vegan Ginger and waiting for acceleration. Wish I could get a refund.
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Same here. Doesn't work on Vegan Ginger. Refund period passed before it was done downloading. Kinda pissed.
I had the same issue with vegan 5.1 then I flashed the brilliant colors rom and it works great now. No freezing or crashing on any tetra apps
Got a reply from their customer service:
"Hi Brad,
I'm sorry you are having issues with the game! Please keep in mind that Great Battles Medieval is recommended only on Tegra 2 devices with valid Android Market storefronts, such as:
- Honeycomb enabled tablets
- Motorola Atrix
- LG Optimus G2X
Your device is either not Tegra 2 or does not come with a valid Android Market storefront. To order the game you must have modified your software to enable the Android Market storefront or bypass the restrictions. Some people have been able to get the game to run on your device and you are welcome to try but we don’t have any information on what might help as it is related to the specific software installed on your machine and are unable to support it.
If you would prefer to cancel your order please let us know your order details.
Thank you!
Slitherine Support"
Looks like I'll be filing for that return.
"- Honeycomb enabled tablets
- Motorola Atrix
- LG Optimus G2X"
So what devices are they hoping to run this on? The Xoom, Acer, and Asus.. boy are they missing out on a huge portion of the market.
Yeah, tried to run it on Vegan 5.1.1 with pershoot's kernel. No dice. Menus are fine. But as soon as I clicked the tutorial option, the following screen ran sluggishly and then froze, then black screen, then crash.
Someone said Brilliant Colors rom ran it well? I'm currently loving my set up, how does BC compare to Vegan?

Has anyone gotten Modern Combat 3 to work on ICS?

Just downloaded Modern Combat 3 for $0.99 on the Android Market. I am on a NS4g wth ICS. The game installs but when I try to launch it is stuck on a continuous loop of "checking license...". Has anyone with a NS or NS4g with ICS had any luck running this game?
no clue about market but i do have current 1.0.1 powervr version and works fine
thanks for heads up about .99 been waiting for this drop going to go purchase
Do you have force gpu rendering enabled? Try disabling it in the developer options.
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Works fine for me on stock 4.0.3 ICS on 9020T.
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Working totally fine and smooth on my Nexus
Yeah it's working fine on my stock 4.0.3 Nexus as well!
hmmmm... runs like crap for me. Choppy audio, tons of lag and super long load times make it unbearable to play. glad I only paid 99 cents.
9020a, official 4.0.3, GLaDOS kernel @ 1200 mhz
Bought it. Downloading game data now. Will see if it works well and post.
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I bought it. Runs fine but lags a lot and very frequently like it was loading data from sdcard during game. I don't have other applications running in background, and I'm running almost stock ICS (+ simple kernel). Maybe freeing some ram would fix the issue
On I9023 stock ICS 4.0.3 works fine.
Sometimes a little bit laggy, but fine.
I bet it lags more because the SD card reading speed is like couple times slower then on GB.
madd0g said:
I bet it lags more because the SD card reading speed is like couple times slower then on GB.
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Works extremely well for me. Its so smooth no lag even on multi player.
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For me it lags like hell on stock ICS. I also think it's because of the SD card speeds. How can we get Google to fix this. Additionally, I also suspect that the graphics acceleration doesn't work as well as in Gingerbread for 3D games.
On my nexus s with cm9a18 (ics 4.0.3) it works.
A little bit lagging but it's playable.
I have had exactly the same problem as the OP only on my Motorola Xoom running a 3rd party ROM (Tiamat ICS).
The game ran fine on the HC build but none of my Gameloft games (MC3, Asphalt 6 and GTA 3) runs on ICS but all ran fine on HC. This is the only thing that stands between me and a permanent move to ICS (which runs much better than HC) so I'd love to sort it out.
Let's not play the blame game here okay!
I blame all of you then!
Settle down, I haven't even heard of this game to yet alone try and port it. Is it a paid app? If so I dont think that's a good idea to even take it apart and share.
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Hello all,
I recently installed MIUI4 2.3.23 and this game MC3 stopped working for me.Before I had CM9 and it worked perfectly but now when I run it there is just black empty screen and nothing happens.I´m running on kernel T132 muenchhausen.Could anyone help me please? thanks
I have a NS I9023 with stock ICS and I have MC3 installed and it works just fine, no lag, no hicups. It works perfectly.

AARGHH...No GTA3 on ICS?!?!?!?

Getting really hacked off with this now as I've tried both CM9 kang and EOS builds of ICS and both will cause GTA3 to hang after the game initially loads. I then have to manually close it as it just locks up completely.
Anyone found a cure for this cos I need ICS but also NEED to play GTA3......lol
Any help greatly appreciated.
Need? Why is it a matter of life and death? You NEED food and water, you dont Need ICS & GTA 3, rather you would like to have both.
Looks like your SOL as far as having both ICS & GTA 3 and will have to prioritise which is more important, until an update is released.
Im getting a similar issue. The game boots and i can play it for a while, but it always eventually locks up on me. Its the only game that does this for me too. I tried it using several of the Kang ICS builds on my wifi only Xoom.
Tried lowering clock speeds too since i am overclocked.
works fine on the stock build of ICS here
Fudge it, might just roll back to stock and wait for OTA then.....lol
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j1mmyg88 said:
works fine on the stock build of ICS here
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How long have you played the game in one stretch? My game "works fine" for a few minutes too but then freezes. I'm curious how long have you played in one continuous session?
I'm on stock ics longest I've managed is 5 mins of gta. Redownloading the data part as was my old files from honeycomb hoping it works.
Didn't work still freezes.
Just tried gta settings low high mixed nothing helped.
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(can't post a link, I'm a newb, Google "gta 3 ics crash" )
Guess it's the waiting game, I for one will take ICS over GTA
Glad its a recognized issue at least
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Not really surprising that a lot of the "high end" games are broken with ICS. I'm no expert but I'm pretty sure there were enough under the hood changes in the OS from HC to ICS that would break games like GTA3.
just installed gta 3 on my xoom. seems to be working fine.
Theres a rooted CWM flashable version of the stock ICS rom around. I think it's pinned in the dev section. I'm running it and all of the apps (games) I know and love (including GTAIII) run beautifully.
Winning!
Just updated GTA3 from the marketplace to version 1.3 and it seems to have been fixed, just played for 30mins or so without a hitch!
Still an awesome game, love cruising round to 'Push it to the Limit', brings back memories!
MZ601 TeamEOS Everest 8
update worked for me as well
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No problems with the last update and Team Rogue's CM9
I have the wifi only kang cm9 leak installed, along with the latest GTA3 patch and now I don't have lockups anymore. Played GTA3 for one hour, overclocked to 1.4ghz. No problems whatsoever.
Looks like they fixed it.
1.3 for me froze just after leaving the garage at the start of the game - could be because the sd files were from version 1.2?
have uninstalled and removed the sd files and redownloading... not sure if it will help.
sounds like 1.3 fixed it for everyone though
after the 1.3 update....working fine on my xoom and nexus both running ICS. played for 2 hours on xoom no bugs or crashing
No crash?
Anyone tried this on Xperia mini working with ICS ?
I'm downloading it right now to test it
Working perfectly on eos here
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Has anyone found an ICS Rom that doesn't do the reboot hang?

I am trying to get a rom that doesn't do this, has this issue been resolved? I can lay my device down at random times and I will come back to the device at the Asus screen locked up. Thanks in advanced tried the search filter maybe my keywords weren't correct. Thanks to all.
Found? lol no no one has 'found' one..lmao
We don't 'find' ROMs here, we develop them (or rather THEY do, I don't yet).
The reboot issue seems to be related to the kernel, and all the ROMs use the Asus kernel (with the exception being blades' new kernel, but it still suffers reboots). So there isn't a solution yet. A few workarounds, preventative measures or wive's tales that 'remedy' or make them 'less frequent', but no solutions.
buffalosolja42 said:
I am trying to get a rom that doesn't do this, has this issue been resolved? I can lay my device down at random times and I will come back to the device at the Asus screen locked up. Thanks in advanced tried the search filter maybe my keywords weren't correct. Thanks to all.
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I'm running revolver 1.3.1 and havne't actually had a single reboot, force close of bad experience, perfect so far and its been running since the release!!!
geenius said:
I'm running revolver 1.3.1 and havne't actually had a single reboot, force close of bad experience, perfect so far and its been running since the release!!!
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Same here, no instances of any of the reported problems and I even bought my TF101 as a refurb.
b1lk1 said:
Same here, no instances of any of the reported problems and I even bought my TF101 as a refurb.
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Wonder what applications are running in your TF. The same thing here with my TF. No reboots, no SODs...
However, after posting in several threads about my luck..
here they come... reboot.... reboot... reboot... simply by opening market...
The only thing I like?... no battery drain!
Just accept it until xda devs will figure out the best solution!
Cheers!
Hi
I flashed the Android Revolution 3.1.0 on Friday and have had 1 freeze up and 2 times file manager didnt run after I installed mxvideo player. But otherwise all good.
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luna_c666 said:
The reboot issue seems to be related to the kernel, and all the ROMs use the Asus kernel (with the exception being blades' new kernel, but it still suffers reboots). So there isn't a solution yet. A few workarounds, preventative measures or wive's tales that 'remedy' or make them 'less frequent', but no solutions.
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This is the situation, there is not definitive solution yet, people gets different results with same or different ROMs, its purely luck if you don't have Reboots or freezes, the solution should be something kernel related, most probably tegra2 drivers (as it has been tweeted by gnufabio few weeks ago)
geenius said:
I'm running revolver 1.3.1 and havne't actually had a single reboot, force close of bad experience, perfect so far and its been running since the release!!!
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This is just an example of users happy with their ROM without issues, but it is just luck.
AOKP and CM9 with cornerstone never rebooted on me. With the Blades kernel I had a few reboots but nothing serious.
Then again I don't have any nvidia tegra gaming stuff installed.
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I run a pretty full range of apps. I use the GPS a fair bit, lots of web surfing with flash as well as email. I do lot of games including a handful of Tegra 2 games. Only issues I have right now is Angry Birds Space freezing, but that is common accross all platforms as well. DOes not cause reboot.
I can go from using it all day to leaving it idle for 3-4 days. I never power it down and have left it off the charger for days in a row. I do tend to leave it on the keyboard dock nearly all the time, but it does see some time off dock.
One thing to add, when I first flashed to Revolver ICS, I foolishly flashed an OC kernel for HC. Needless to say I bricked it. Took me 1/2 a day to get it going again after flashing back to stock HC, then stock ICS and finally Revolver ICS. Been up ever since then and that was over 3 weeks ago, more likely 4+. Only time I get a reboot is if I initialize it. No sleep/freezing issues other than the noted single instance.
I call this luck of the draw and likely as to why ASUS can't figure it out since this problem seems like a some have it and some don't thing.
And yet I got a random reboot on a brand new install of pure stock 9.2.1.17 that I had nvflashed within 12 hours, and with blades kernel forget about it.. every hour reboot, and then on pure stock again I got splash screen boot loops..
I have never been experiencing the reboots either, but I only tried Android Revolution HD and CyanogenMod.
For some reason however, I will experience sleeps of death soon as I configure the Wi-Fi to shutdown when the screen is off.
geenius said:
I'm running revolver 1.3.1 and havne't actually had a single reboot, force close of bad experience, perfect so far and its been running since the release!!!
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Same here. Was running a stock rooted version of ICS with Revolver 4 flashed over the top (I know this wasn't recommended, but I did it one night by accident, and it solved the other issues I was having with Revolver.
I moved on to CodeName Android after the other ICS ROMs pulled ahead. I haven't had the issue there either.
I don't know what the deal is.....but I'm thankful I don't have the issue! And even if I did, I only consume media on my transformer. So I can't say that it'd be a big deal.
1 and 1/2 days without a reboot
Turned off face unlock..... guess I'm not handsome enough to wake up my tablet. But I have wifi on as well. I will report but it seems to be running better.

Shield KitKat emulator slowdowns

hi everyone,
i want to ask if anyone also has experienced slowdowns and framerate hiccups in certian emulators (MD.emu, NES.emu, SNES9X EX+...) since the OTA 72 like me? I allready made a full factoryn reset with no success
Hey same trouble here, same emulators. What's sad is it just seems to be slow enough to cheapen the experience. Like you get just a few dropped frames here and there or you can turn frameskip off and get horrible sound crackling. Funny, I did the same factory reset, too. This sucks I would hate to backtrack. I was really looking forward to being able to charge and still use my usb port.
And I just did some digging around the Shield forums before posting this. We are certainly not the only ones with this issue.
DarkJoker said:
hi everyone,
i want to ask if anyone also has experienced slowdowns and framerate hiccups in certian emulators (MD.emu, NES.emu, SNES9X EX+...) since the OTA 72 like me? I allready made a full factoryn reset with no success
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Jesse L said:
Hey same trouble here, same emulators. What's sad is it just seems to be slow enough to cheapen the experience. Like you get just a few dropped frames here and there or you can turn frameskip off and get horrible sound crackling. Funny, I did the same factory reset, too. This sucks I would hate to backtrack. I was really looking forward to being able to charge and still use my usb port.
And I just did some digging around the Shield forums before posting this. We are certainly not the only ones with this issue.
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Ah Darn yea I'm experiencing barely noticeable performance changes to my emulators, although very minor like you said it does cheapen the experience to a once nearly perfect experience minus the small audio latency in android.
What version of Android is on an out of box unit? I want one just for emulators, so if I buy one at Gamestop, I will not update.
I wrote to the developer of the .emu apps Robert Broglia and got the following answer:
Hi, this is a known issue and from my testing I found 2 problems with the 4.4 update:
1. The CPU speed decreases to very low levels if you don't push any buttons on the gamepad, causing dropped frames
2. The refresh rate is now incorrectly reported as 60.03Hz when it's actually 59.94Hz causing timing issues
I reported these problems to Nvidia and they said they're looking into it. Hopefully they can fix this in the next OS update.
Now i'm hoping that Nvidia is making an update soon to get rid of these bugs/problems.
DarkJoker said:
I wrote to the developer of the .emu apps Robert Broglia and got the following answer:
Hi, this is a known issue and from my testing I found 2 problems with the 4.4 update:
1. The CPU speed decreases to very low levels if you don't push any buttons on the gamepad, causing dropped frames
2. The refresh rate is now incorrectly reported as 60.03Hz when it's actually 59.94Hz causing timing issues
I reported these problems to Nvidia and they said they're looking into it. Hopefully they can fix this in the next OS update.
Now i'm hoping that Nvidia is making an update soon to get rid of these bugs/problems.
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if nvidia will fix this I am gonna eat a cow.
Is this an Nvidia Shield issue, or a 4.4 issue for all devices?
rushless said:
Is this an Nvidia Shield issue, or a 4.4 issue for all devices?
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It's a 4.4 issue, you get less fps in 4.4 than in 4.3 and I'm soooo pissed cause I can't use my SD card. Could you downgrade the shield back to 4.3?
ALLEN2 said:
It's a 4.4 issue, you get less fps in 4.4 than in 4.3 and I'm soooo pissed cause I can't use my SD card. Could you downgrade the shield back to 4.3?
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I dont think its possible, i tried going back to 4.3 and it bricked my shield. I didnt spend much time on it but i think once youre on 4.4 youre stuck.
updated and rooted today -no emulators lag
+++
- root from github works (no superuser app was installed but it works without any just fine --donno how.. ok for me! )
- SD fix from NextApp works with no issues. It was the first thing I did and Folder Mount worked ok right after then next reboot.
- mounting points changed again.. now internal is on /storage/emulated/0 and SD is at /storage/sdcard1
- no emulators lag or anything unusual.. work great as before. No difference in frame rates for android games also.. everything as before. Also didn't noticed CPU scaling differently. Same interactive governor.. no hick-ups when using only touch...
- I previously had a random screen flicker on the left side of the display, when using overlay program like cool tools (as I run it all the time)-- in all 65-67-68 builds. Now it's gone
- 99% of my apps work ok after root and sd fix. (MC3 for example was the only one that now seems unsupported and it crashes at start. And on the market is gone for the shield.)
- more polished UI, bit more fluid. Boot time slightly better (for my ~200 apps or so).
- redesigned nvidia TegraZone (now more games options );
- GRID beta now works but I only tried grid (the racing game) -and it was not controller. Onlive still a much better alternative.
- even more mature GameMapper app
- - -
- microphone doesn't work anymore (audalyzer, widgetsoid -rec button feature, smart voice recorder, voice search.. nada!). Strange..
- a bug that previously had on all builds it's still there: a while after reboot when I press the volume button then "+" and "-" buttons do not work.
- MC3 it's not supported anymore
- now testing another bug that I previously had: no matter the video player (I have MX and BS Player), when streaming a movie from my desktop or whatever (tried from laptop also), after about an hour or so of continuous streaming.. sudden reboot... i believe it's not a temperature issues, since locally (from sdcard) the movie played for 3 hours straight with the shield wrapped in a scarf and everything was ok. Router at work also tested. The sharing method it's via file browsers like fx explorer or ES (and tried both).. no SMB mount (I don't have a different kernel with cifs.. just share from windows and then browsed to the network drive).
Your mx player bug sounds a bit specific to your setup. I havent experienced that yet, i use mx myself, and have streamed several movies from my laptop and never had a reboot with 4.3 or 4.4.
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It's a 4.4 issue, you get less fps in 4.4 than in 4.3 and I'm soooo pissed cause I can't use my SD card. Could you downgrade the shield back to 4.3?
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The only place I see concern about this is Shield forums. No reports of this for non Shield devices. Seems if a 4.4 issue in general for all devices, we would see a lot of folks posting, since a lot of forum dwellers notice these things. Even on non gaming type devices.
Does the Shield have 4.3 out of box and is there a way to turn off updating WITHOUT root?
Have you tried using retroarch instead of the paid ones?
I ordered one from Best Buy, since Gamestop has a no return policy. If still on 4.3 and I can stop updates without rooting, I will keep it.
I have little if any desire to play PC games on 5" display. I find the 10.6" display on my V11 Pro almost too small with Farcry, Halo and the Unreal Tournament games.
This will be a game emulator station for me.
I do love the kit kat update an all.. NVIDIA shield runs great on Stock android starting from 4.3 to kitkat, i can berely notice the difference in performance in the OS it self.. The problems arise in the emulators. Slowdowns, and sound crackling, more than the usual 1 or 2 in various emulators. Just like the other posters stated. It really does take away from the experience. Not sure if PC streaming is really effected much.. seem to run the same to me.... i only tried out real boxing for android games, that ran smooth still... haven't tried any other android game yet.... This caused me to Downgrade back to 4.3 using Shield RAM v1.0.. for those of you looking to downgrade back, hurry and get it while you can, before the develeper updates that great little Program using the latest kitkat update 72 from NVIDIA....
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I do love the kit kat update an all.. NVIDIA shield runs great on Stock android starting from 4.3 to kitkat, i can berely notice the difference in performance in the OS it self.. The problems arise in the emulators. Slowdowns, and sound crackling, more than the usual 1 or 2 in various emulators. Just like the other posters stated. It really does take away from the experience. Not sure if PC streaming is really effected much.. seem to run the same to me.... i only tried out real boxing for android games, that ran smooth still... haven't tried any other android game yet.... This caused me to Downgrade back to 4.3 using Shield RAM v1.0.. for those of you looking to downgrade back, hurry and get it while you can, before the develeper updates that great little Program using the latest kitkat update 72 from NVIDIA....
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I would like to update a to 4.3, but absolutely not to 4.4. Was hoping 4.3 was on the device out of box, but has 4.2. Emulators are my main focus, so a performance hit and the sd issues are reasons to avoid 4.4.
Google is starting to suck real bad like Apple.
Fortunately Nvidia allows you to unlock your boot loader and root your device. With root, you can fix SD card issues and stutter problems for emulators by increasing the minimum frequency when using those apps
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Fortunately Nvidia allows you to unlock your boot loader and root your device. With root, you can fix SD card issues and stutter problems for emulators by increasing the minimum frequency when using those apps
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Confirmed here.. no need to downgrade any longer.... can have the latest kit kat with no more hick ups as far as emulation and SD Card goes... thanks again
DJFresh82 said:
Confirmed here.. no need to downgrade any longer.... can have the latest kit kat with no more hick ups as far as emulation and SD Card goes... thanks again
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Would you please try the GBA.emu with Castlevania Aria of Sorrow?
Please try it with, and without changing the cpu freqs. Also w/o frame skip.
Just skip all the text, and go right into the game where you're walking to the right and killing Zombies. If it doesn't lag I'd be amazed.
I'm asking about that emu and game, because it seemed like one of the hardest hit emulators that works perfectly well before KitKat.
I downgraded some time ago to 4.3, otherwise I would try myself. But I remember that game was unplayable with KitKat, and perfect on Jellybean.
My next question is, why isn't the Shield getting better battery life? (Because we think the cpu is less aggressive in KitKat)
For me it got worse in KitKat, streaming used to be an easy 6+ hours, now the Shield almost never reaches 4.5 hours SOT when doing anything!
I don't think it has anything to do with the CPU/governor (in general) I think it's something to do with the update.
Regardless, I'm pretty happy with Jellybean. There's a few things I wish I could do, like charge and USB host at the same time, but there's really not much that KitKat actually brought to the table that you can't use with Jellybean. (remote streaming, gamepad mapper)
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Would you please try the GBA.emu with Castlevania Aria of Sorrow?
Please try it with, and without changing the cpu freqs. Also w/o frame skip.
Just skip all the text, and go right into the game where you're walking to the right and killing Zombies. If it doesn't lag I'd be amazed.
I'm asking about that emu and game, because it seemed like one of the hardest hit emulators that works perfectly well before KitKat.
I downgraded some time ago to 4.3, otherwise I would try myself. But I remember that game was unplayable with KitKat, and perfect on Jellybean.
My next question is, why isn't the Shield getting better battery life? (Because we think the cpu is less aggressive in KitKat)
For me it got worse in KitKat, streaming used to be an easy 6+ hours, now the Shield almost never reaches 4.5 hours SOT when doing anything!
I don't think it has anything to do with the CPU/governor (in general) I think it's something to do with the update.
Regardless, I'm pretty happy with Jellybean. There's a few things I wish I could do, like charge and USB host at the same time, but there's really not much that KitKat actually brought to the table that you can't use with Jellybean. (remote streaming, gamepad mapper)
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Hello, I feel your pain with the battery life after updating to kit kat.. i tried out Castlavania: Aria of Sorrow without any CPU cpu freqs changes and setting frameskip to 0.. I personally use my!boy.. but tried out the emu.gba, it's running smooth to me.. no frame skips what so ever.. My shield is Rooted with the SDFix.. Maybe that has something to do with it.. not sure.. but it runs smooth for me.. I won't reccomend to update to kit kat and it doesn't work out for you.. If your comfortable with Jelly bean, stick with that.. I downgraded from KitKat originally also, and went back to jellybean 4.3, that's what originally came with my shield when i baught it from Game stop.. I knew there would be some devs and talented other users that would fix these emulation issues with kitkat..
As far as the battery life goes.. I don't know the answer to that as of now... It does seem like it's an NVIDIA problem IMO also.. but I could be wrong about that one.. Just do what your comfortable with.. stay with Jellybean if everything is working the way it should for you... If you decide to update back to KitKat.. I suggest you root, and use the SDFIX app from the app store.. along with SET CPU for emus with the slow downs that eikast suggested (thanks again for that).. for now until NVIDIA releases another update for the shield... not sure how long that would be though....

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