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[Q] S-OFF vs ENG S-OFF?

I am aware that ENG S-OFF is needed to flash a radio, and S-OFF is needed to achieve root. I'm looking for a technical explanation of what they are, and their differences?

cavsoldier19d said:
I am aware that ENG S-OFF is needed to flash a radio, and S-OFF is needed to achieve root. I'm looking for a technical explanation of what they are, and their differences?
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You do not need eng s-off to flash a radio.
The easiest way to explain it, is radio s-off turns off security so you can flash custom roms. Eng s-off allows you to access the engineering h boot, for more complex and in depth modding of the phone. Which in most cases you can do a lot of stuff in radio s-off that you can do with eng s-boot with running less of a chance of bricking your phone. Such as flashing a radio..

i read somewhere that eng-off allows the engineering h boot (like you said), but within that is a "quick boot" option that is for testing roms or something.
can you give a more in depth explanation of what the quick boot can/cant do and what other types of things are available within the engineering mode??

It allows you access to certain partitions on the phones memory that require engineering h boot to access. I haven't dug to far into the separate partitions, but the phones radio software is on one, and on some phones the splash screen is on a separate partition. These partitions are kept separate from the rom. That is the easiest way I can explain it.

i have recently installed a new gingerbread ROM on the inspire, and it suggests using compatible radios. In the post, it clearly says you need ENG S-OFF to do a radio flash. Am i reading this correctly??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11561829&postcount=4

ENG S-OFF isn't required to flash new radio. Just follow the the steps in this post. Works great.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1002226

Little_Ant said:
i have recently installed a new gingerbread ROM on the inspire, and it suggests using compatible radios. In the post, it clearly says you need ENG S-OFF to do a radio flash. Am i reading this correctly??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11561829&postcount=4
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You can use eng S-off and flash the radio and as soon as it is done you can turn it back off. I had eng s-off and it is not as dangerous as people say, it is just that you do need to be careful on the flash. I had it on, on my phone and then turned it off and my phone did not explode or the sky did not fall.
As most post on this forum say, not responsible for damage to your phone, you can brick your phone just by rooting or flashing a rom, just be careful and read before you do it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855403
The people on the coredroid thread would not have you do something that they have not tried themself's many times, I think that you can trust them fully.
Halfway down the first post you will see how to turn Eng s-off back on, BUT make sure that you do nothing to the SD card in the phone when you did the Eng s-off because it will have the three files on it needed to turn it back on. The one click s-off puts these files on the SD card when you do it.

moe3754 said:
You can use eng S-off and flash the radio and as soon as it is done you can turn it back off. I had eng s-off and it is not as dangerous as people say, it is just that you do need to be careful on the flash. I had it on, on my phone and then turned it off and my phone did not explode or the sky did not fall.
As most post on this forum say, not responsible for damage to your phone, you can brick your phone just by rooting or flashing a rom, just be careful and read before you do it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855403
The people on the coredroid thread would not have you do something that they have not tried themself's many times, I think that you can trust them fully.
Halfway down the first post you will see how to turn Eng s-off back on, BUT make sure that you do nothing to the SD card in the phone when you did the Eng s-off because it will have the three files on it needed to turn it back on. The one click s-off puts these files on the SD card when you do it.
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The problem is your more likely to mess up and brick your phone with eng s-off then radio s-off... That is why we shy people away from eng s-offing the phone. There is absolutely no reason a general user should have eng s-off. Keep in mind eng s-off itself will not brick your phone, but there is just no reason a general user needs to be messing around with it.

Eng s off basically gives useful options to devs. ex-after building a kernel and you don't know if its gonna boot or implode the phone, long story short you can boot the kernel/ramdisk without actually writing it yet. (fastboot boot vs fastboot flash)
a normal user/flasher/modder will never technically need it cause you can do anything you need to with s-off. Eng-s off is in no way dangerous just having like that and not using it, it just gives the user the possibility to accidentally do something bad, kinda like leaving yourself logged in as root in linux.
On the other hand, if you do somehow brick or semi-brick your phone (with a bad flash or something unrelated to s off), you now have more options to try to fix the problem

[Q] Super CID question RE: hboot 1.27

Alright to start here's where I am right now
Unlocked hboot 1.27
rooted device running CWM 5.0.0.8
Running stock Bell Canada 4.0.3 ICS
software version 3.32.666.13
I was trying to flash virtuos (sp?) rom as I've heard it's very good on battery life, after I rooted the device with the HTC Dev method as if I try the revolutionary method it gives me an unsupported message as my hboot is 1.27. The flash worked however it just hung at the virtuous screen. (however I read that this rom used the 3.32 base so I thought it should have worked...I dunno) After a bit more research I assumed this was to do with not being super CID
CID is currently BM___001 (Bell CID)
I have not been able to change my superCID either as when I try I get the following:
C:\adb>fastboot oem writecid 11111111
... INFOvreg_set: request is duplicated id 14
INFO pyramid_init_sd, SD card power on ok
INFOsdcc_init_memory_device done
INFO[FAT_ERROR] fat_open_file: can not find SMART_IO.CRD
INFO[JAVACARD_ERR] SMART_IO.CRD cann't find
OKAY [ 1.081s]
finished. total time: 1.082s
This is apparently because I'm not S-OFF, though I can't because the revolutionary method doesn't work. I know about the wire trick however I just don't want to do it. I've been reading a bit and apparently it's possible to downgrade the hboot so that you can use the revolutionary method ,however I can't find any instructions that are plain english. I've got some experience with my old Atrix but the HTC tool set is obviously completely different.
So is a downgrade possible? If so would anyone be able to give me a walkthrough, I don't want to brick the phone. A link to another thread with lingo I haven't grasped yet isn't a solution and chances are I've already read it
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks

You can only downgrade with S-OFF. Sorry

phil1596 said:
You can only downgrade with S-OFF. Sorry
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So is what your trying to say is that the only way that I can get S-OFF is with Juopunutbear's wire method? Downgrading the firmware is not an option with 1.27?
I'm looking for complete sentances here, not assuming I'm an expert in doing this with HTC phones. More information is better than responses that are cryptic to anyone that doesn't have months of experience with these phones, not trying to be rude but that answer tells me absolutely nothing, sorry.

Yeah, thats mean it. You must go S-OFF and them get the SuperCid.
Then you must start a GB RUU and flash it.

Alright, well that sucks. Guess I'll have to wait for revolutionary to be compatible with 1.27 then so I can S-OFF and supercid that way.
Are there any ROMS that are compatible with 3.32.666.13?

There are also roms, which supports 3.33xxx

cotawa said:
Alright, well that sucks. Guess I'll have to wait for revolutionary to be compatible with 1.27 then so I can S-OFF and supercid that way.
Are there any ROMS that are compatible with 3.32.666.13?
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Hi,
Revolutionary are not making anything any time soon...
There are several ways/methods to s-off.
Look HERE
You can also flash ROMS with the same firmware that you have on your phone.
Check the Asskicker thread.

Well I said the hell with it, did the wire trick. Impressive I must say, worked like a charm...forgot to backup my sd card though...lol, damn.
I did notice it made an img file of the sd card contents, anyway to read that? if not it's no big deal there wasn't much on it.

cotawa said:
Well I said the hell with it, did the wire trick. Impressive I must say, worked like a charm...forgot to backup my sd card though...lol, damn.
I did notice it made an img file of the sd card contents, anyway to read that? if not it's no big deal there wasn't much on it.
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Hi,
Try posting that question on the s-off thread.

seems to be a few of them in different sections, mind shooting me a link to the one your referring to in particular?
Thanks guys/gals

cotawa said:
seems to be a few of them in different sections, mind shooting me a link to the one your referring to in particular?
Thanks guys/gals
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Hi,
I meant, the one you used to s-off...

didn't use a thread just right off of their website

cotawa said:
didn't use a thread just right off of their website
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You can check the troubleshoot Page from the website too
Rom/data recovery section last 2 points explains how to revert your sdcard and its backup
Sent from my pyramid.. Through blazing fast sonic waves

So much info im getting very confused! ruu's and s off.....

Had my HTC ONE S for a while now
When i first got it i followed all the guides to unlocking the bootload and rooting etc and ended up running viper rom, and various others along the way. You know how it is!
Anyhow i was fiddling once and some how managed to delete the sd card and it wouldnt mount.
I fixed that and im not sure if its a coincidence but i now have random call drops even with a good signal. radio randomly coming on and music apps closing...........mainly when using head phones....................
The following is what was suggested to me.................
Sneakyghost said:
Not easy. I'd say do S-OFF as the very first thing (well relatively, of course do the unlock, do the SuperCID, then...). S-OFF ensures you can just flash any RUU and no matter if locked or unlocked or on custom ROM or not.
You can also only do SuperCID and flash any RUU.
Once done, pick the 3.16 WWE RUU. Please do NOT do the OTA which is offered on that RUU if you do not have S-OFF yet as that OTA disables any chance to get S-OFF currently.
If you happen to sit in the US and are on Tmobile, check HERE for latest tmob RUU because you might want Wifi calling and such. Else, just select any you like. I recommend WWE though.
Not really hard then once you got S-OFF. The hard part is understanding S-OFF procedure. If you get that done everything else is pretty easy. There is a thread for S-OFF with a good guide.
Regarding GPS Fix from Crypted: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1563226 (have that open in my browser always cause its a magic little fix)
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Apparently my htc one s is a international one?
Your CID "HTC__001" Suggests you have an international one X and not a carrier locked one xl. You will need to post in the international one x forums.
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Any ideas on what i do now as i cant find a htc one s international forum?
EDIT: regarding the above, no one seemed sure and i couldnt seem to find a definitive answer so rather than messing around changing the cid and risking a brick. Some one suggested RUU_Ville_U_ICS_40_S_HTC_Europe_2.31.401.5_Radio_1.06es.50.02.31_10.09a.50.04L_release_275655_signed.exe
as my radio is 1.06es 50.02.31 and the 2.31 works with hboot of 1.14 which mine also is....................
after all this im even more confused lol!
So currently ive relocked the bootloader using fastboot and run the above RUU and im back to stock i believe?
What would one suggest?
im on hboot 1.14.0002 and radio is 1.06es i believe.
Ideally id like to get back to viper rom
Might test for a few days if i can resist a custom rom just to check
thanks

Even I'm on hboot 1.14.. Get an S-OFF, flash a latest radio ie., 1.15. That should work.

so ifi flash s off i can run any run any ruu without risk of bricking? by changing the cid thing thanks?

Gavin01 said:
so ifi flash s off i can run any run any ruu without risk of bricking? by changing the cid thing thanks?
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Risk of bricking came from.SUPER-CID and OTA update, also downgrading h-boot.

first get supercid, then get S-off, then change cid back to original or desired one. if you have a international S4 device original cid wil do fine.
then ruu what you want, s-off simplifies flashing of ruus and roms and more things.
if you might update the device with latest jb without S-off you cant get S-off no more (as of now), you now have the option.
you can always revert back.

Right guys im still not reallty understanding all this sorry.
My phones now coming up with OTA update which i understand i shouldnt run as this then blocks all chance of getting S-Off in the future?
As i understand it my HTC one is a international one so i dont need to change the cid?
So i need to do is get S-Off and run another RUU?
Ill try and follow the guide to S-Off but even that im struggling with Can anyone tell me what RUU i should be running when i manage to get S-Off. My details are above in the first post i think>?
Thanks for your patience.

You need supercid to get soff (face palm)
Then change cid back to original HTC one. To do any otas you want.
Advice:
Before you start. look at your current software version Google the ruu from that info, save the file. When need to ever change back in the future, and then ota back to latest version.
Verstuurd van mijn One S met Tapatalk

im still scared of this super cid thing as ive read a few people have bricked their phones
Although i keep getting the annoying message that a system update is available so i must try and do something soon.
Unless i just go straight to viper

Gavin01 said:
im still scared of this super cid thing as ive read a few people have bricked their phones
Although i keep getting the annoying message that a system update is available so i must try and do something soon.
Unless i just go straight to viper
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If it's just the message you want to get rid of, just turn off automatic update checks.
HTC_One_S | S-OFF | ViperOneS_2.2.0 | Black&Blue_Inverted_Sense | Bulletproof_1.4
Inverted Sense _4+_and_5_click me

Hello
Ok .. since i see some nice gentlemen here responding to queries with patience .. I'd like to post one myself.
I obtained S-Off the very next day i got my One S .. things were running smooth on stock. Looked out for some ROMS and finally installed one. Now I want to revert to my stock ROM while maintaining S-off/root. My problem is only that i don't find this ROM stable or the kernel .. just want to revert to stock.
Will flashing 3.16 WWE RUU take me back to stock firmware and kernel?
Would really appreciate the help

[Q] [OneSV cricket k2_plc_cl] boot problems after moonshine attpemt 2

I have a one SV on cricket (US)
K2_PLC_CL (s-on) still
Ok so it was all stock from store. Tan I did this in order:
1.) Unlocked bootloader from HTC dev...
2.) (flashed) Installed CMW v6.0.2.8 via ADB
3.) MADE BACKUP with CWM
4.) Rooted by flashing a zip via CMW (worked great)
5.) tried moonshine.io for s-off tried twice. Failed
-program (distiller) closed after saying "moonshining 1...2...3...to 10)
-now on boot it gets to "Htc
I booted into CMW and retored that backup i had before any rooting or s-off etc... but it still hangs :silly:
Should I try the hboot option to restore? (I thought CMW backup was like a complete nand backup. Which should be bullet proof right?)
Thanks for looking guys! I have no communication as of now I just want to make calls at least
This is my first android device and I always like getting to know my devices from the inside, the iphone BS was too much haha. I gues i dont really need s off or super cid if it means no phone. but why not if it works.

Did you have ICS or JB, when you have tried S-off?
Please remember, as long as you are S-on you must flash the boot.img with fastboot commands (also, if you are restoring a backup and you did a full wipe)! If you have a cwm backup, boot.img should be inside of your backup folder.
Did you wipe everything before your restore? Maybe fragments of moonshine still there.
Did you try TWRP recovery?

[HTC oneSV boot hang, FIXED] THANKS!!
LOL I had no idea the boot.img had to to be manually flashed, thank you very much it work s great now!
This time I cleared/wiped data AND cache. it still hanged and wont boot. Than I re tried using CWM again to restore (still hangs). than I flashed boot.img THAT DID THE TRICK after "fastboot reboot".
BTW major fail on my part; I was rooting and moonshining for JB it turns out I have ICS (i forgot to update) now that you mentioned it hehehe
I had 4.0.4 sense 4.1. I think that is why everything went to hell...
Alright Ill try moonshine after the update to JB 4.1.2 if that fails than Ill try the facepalm.
One last question; if i do update to JB 4.1.2 and achieve s-off could I use that CMW backup to always go back to ICS 4.0.4? (just incase I ever wanted to get SUPER CID and get JB 4.2.2) I wonder if super cid works with k2-PLC-cl.... Ill try it when I get find the funds a better phone to risk a brick
-Thank you sir!

Ok, lets bring a bit light into these darkness:
- Facepalm S-Off only works, as long as you did not achieve the JB update!
- You can restore a ics cwm backup, also when you are on JB and S-Off, but
- Restoring ics from a backup is not the same, as you where on ics before the update.
Thats because of the updated hboot (ics-> hboot 1.0; jb-> hboot 2.0). In hboot 2.0 the Supercid/Facepalm exploit is fixed. You can still get Supercid under hboot 2.0, but you must do moonshine S-Off before.
So, at all you must think about, what you want and whats the best way to get, before updating to jb.
If this was to difficult to understand, ask again and i will try my best to explain it for you to understand.

Ok
Hum they creators of these phones really enjoy making puzzles for us don't they...
Alright so my options are:
1.) [stay on ICS]
-get super cid
-facepalm for s-off
(can I still update to JB after this and still have super cid and s-off? But that would install hbot2 wouldnt it? so....)
I think I want method 2↓
2.) [update to JB]
-use moonshine to get s-off
-some how get super cid? (I dont really need super cid but it would be nice to know I have it just in case)
-profit
//edit//(ohh yes, once on JB hboot v2, if i have s off and on hboot2 could I go back to hboot1 along with ICS should i need to)
Any ways thank you again

1. Right, you can update and both will stay.
2. Right, after S-Off you should be able to change SuperCid. But it should be said, that its a very risky operation and phone can be bricked very easily if you are doing something wrong.
And for your edit: You can restore a ics backup, but without a RUU it is difficult to bring back hboot 1. Only a backup of it will solve this. Recoveries usually don't backup hboot.

SV ICS super cid
I know this thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2264322
says to do super cid on original stock, but could I just go ahead and HEX my cid with my ICS that is unlocked/rooted/custom-recovery?
Do I have to un-do all of that to change the CID? or is that just good technique? [im also on cricket ics 4.0.4 if it matters, k2_plc_cl]
Thank you very much! I wish to change my cid right now but ill wait and see what you say if it saves me from a brick
than I'm off to s-off for all the goodies that follow haha.

I don't think, that this will be important, because SuperCid is located in a partition which has nothing to do with root or recovery.

alrighty than
haha wrong link in previous post I meant this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26516911#post26516911
WHEN HTCDEV UNLOCKS YOUR DEVICE YOU MUST START FROM SCRATCH!!!
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I was reading his link and somehow posted your link, Ill use your link actually now that I read it... I thought it wouldn't matter, better safe than sorry. Ill try it out and see how it goes.
Thanks for helping

Questions about hexing CID
old.splatterhand said:
I don't think, that this will be important, because SuperCid is located in a partition which has nothing to do with root or recovery.
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Alright its late and I'm not going to flash it yet ill wait to see what you make of this:
I have used hxd many times for xbox/psp/etc so i know how it works... it found 3 instances of my CID
(some info omitted as the 'x' char)
Code:
maincid=CRICK001xx.xx.cidlist=CRICK001.xx.xx.rid=105.xx.xx.modelid=PL8xxxxxx.xx.xx.report=com.xx.xx.skulist=1xxx.xx.xx.taskid=30xxxx.xx.xx.mainsku=1xxx.xx.onecid=1.xx.cwkey=CRICK001.ro.com.google.clientidbase=android-htc //more stuff after........
Im assuming only the first instance "maincid=CRICK001" needs to be 11111111
(or should all 3 instances of "CRICK001" be changed to 11111111)
Ill give it a go after work tomorrow when Im confident that my modifications wont render my phone as a door stop.
I need to buy you a beer, but the donation is in german, ill have to translate it when I get done

Gain_Medium said:
Alright its late and I'm not going to flash it yet ill wait to see what you make of this:
I have used hxd many times for xbox/psp/etc so i know how it works... it found 3 instances of my CID
(some info omitted as the 'x' char)
Code:
maincid=CRICK001xx.xx.cidlist=CRICK001.xx.xx.rid=105.xx.xx.modelid=PL8xxxxxx.xx.xx.report=com.xx.xx.skulist=1xxx.xx.xx.taskid=30xxxx.xx.xx.mainsku=1xxx.xx.onecid=1.xx.cwkey=CRICK001.ro.com.google.clientidbase=android-htc //more stuff after........
Im assuming only the first instance "maincid=CRICK001" needs to be 11111111
(or should all 3 instances of "CRICK001" be changed to 11111111)
Ill give it a go after work tomorrow when Im confident that my modifications wont render my phone as a door stop.
I need to buy you a beer, but the donation is in german, ill have to translate it when I get done
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At this point i only can tell you about my guide and the picture inside. To be honest, i only noticed only one cid, together with imei. So maybe this helps you.
Edit:
Please, really be careful if your file/block is different than in my guide!
I'm on mobile and can't look at your code completely.
My guide for sure works for k2u & k2ul cause i did it myself at two different phones but i don't know, if cricket has changed more and i don't want your phone bricked.
Edit2:
I really not sure, if changing CID will work. Maybe you'll try the S-Off step by Moonshine after update to JB, would be better than a bricked phone!
You must also think, what do i profit from SuperCID?
K2u & k2ul can be unbranded this way, maybe they also profit from earlier updates.
But you can't use k2u/l Software on US phones, different network, so this point is useless for you. And i don't think, cricket will release their updates earlier for phones with SuperCID.
Just my two cents, now its on you to make your decision...

What i also want to say, i had help the first time i did.
It was @jmz who helped me, maybe he reads that and know more about cricket cid.

I think ill give it a go
I actually tried to contact him and others, but since im so new I can't send PMs (they send but nothing is in my sent box. link it never happened) so I guess unless JMZ stumbles upon this thread thats it.
As for me I don't think it would brick my phone (like a real brick) if all else I could just boot into recovery and flash back my backup stuff right?
Or if i screw up would it not even allow recovery / shell? Although a brick would permit me to buy a better popular phone
If i try it all post more details on it for other cricket users.

This is modifying the bootloader. If you do something wrong, the phone wont boot. Not in recovery, not in OS, bricked.
PS. @Gain_Medium
If you write a xda username with an @ before, the one will be notified, the he is mentioned somewhere

Side note: I don't believe that there is any reason for super cid on a cricket us carrier, unless you plan on traveling to Europe, Asia, or anywhere out of the continent.
Yes, it's cool to have accomplished superCID. But there is really no benefit here in the US, if you plan on maybe using a different service plan provider, you'll still need to unlock your SIM, even if you do achieve superCID without bricking.
Good luck with your decision. I hope to read your updates on what you have chosen. And how everything goes for you.
THESE ARE ONLY MY THOUGHTS AND OPINIONS. NOT TRYING TO SWAY YOU AWAY FROM ATTEMPTING ANYTHING.
but please research superCID for cricket mobile and see what you find.
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[Q] need help with installing custom rom on htc sensation pyramid

hi everyone
i havebeen struggling with this for 2 years now. i have HTC sensation with hboot 1.18.xxxx that i bought in 2011. after the first year i have been keen to move to a newer rom. i have tried to look up inf in xda and elsewhere and got no where with this.
i have been worried about bricking so much that i didnt try to many weird procedures. i had even tried to go through with the android revolution installation procedure but failed right on. because revolutionary does not with with my device even though thr hboot is supported.
i badly need to move to a newer jelly bean based rom or later else my device is like a stone-age crap. i sincerely request some straight forward process / guidance of getting through this without weird, wire trick etc.
i really want to keep this device instead of buying a new device for no reason. but i dont know how to start and how to end. kindly help me out.

rajdeeprath said:
hi everyone
i havebeen struggling with this for 2 years now. i have HTC sensation with hboot 1.18.xxxx that i bought in 2011. after the first year i have been keen to move to a newer rom. i have tried to look up inf in xda and elsewhere and got no where with this.
i have been worried about bricking so much that i didnt try to many weird procedures. i had even tried to go through with the android revolution installation procedure but failed right on. because revolutionary does not with with my device even though thr hboot is supported.
i badly need to move to a newer jelly bean based rom or later else my device is like a stone-age crap. i sincerely request some straight forward process / guidance of getting through this without weird, wire trick etc.
i really want to keep this device instead of buying a new device for no reason. but i dont know how to start and how to end. kindly help me out.
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1st
This is definately not the place to ask for "all inclusive help".
You should at least do some own basic researches or leave your phone as it is,
especially when you're worried about bricking your device.
There are so many excellent descriptions here, that could guide you to flash a custom rom.
2nd
If you are on hboot 1.18 you don't need to do the wire trick for s-off, just have a look at this.
If you searched a little bit, you'd find out yourself.
But even the wire trick is nothing "bad", I did it on 6 devices till now.
I'd like to encourage you to simply read/search a little bit more here in the forums before coming back and asking for help.

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1st
This is definately not the place to ask for "all inclusive help".
You should at least do some own basic researches or leave your phone as it is,
especially when you're worried about bricking your device.
There are so many excellent descriptions here, that could guide you to flash a custom rom.
2nd
If you are on hboot 1.18 you don't need to do the wire trick for s-off, just have a look at this.
If you searched a little bit, you'd find out yourself.
But even the wire trick is nothing "bad", I did it on 6 devices till now.
I'd like to encourage you to simply read/search a little bit more here in the forums before coming back and asking for help.
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thanks for the reply. as i mentioned revolutionary does NOT work for me. it says failed to get root. i have already tried those things about 8 times now and it didnt work for me. thats why i have posted here for help.
using htcdev i know i can try to unlock but it wont soff. so i dont know if that will help me or not.

rajdeeprath said:
thanks for the reply. as i mentioned revolutionary does NOT work for me. it says failed to get root. i have already tried those things about 8 times now and it didnt work for me. thats why i have posted here for help.
using htcdev i know i can try to unlock but it wont soff. so i dont know if that will help me or not.
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Try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2751187 to gain S-OFF. Don't worry about the htcdev part.
I did it on a complete stock sensation xe with hboot 1.27 or 1.29 (can't remember exactly).
Just use the temp root and rumrunner.
For any information read the thread first, before asking.
Also this thread should be moved, because it doesn't belong into the development section.

Sajito said:
Try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2751187 to gain S-OFF. Don't worry about the htcdev part.
I did it on a complete stock sensation xe with hboot 1.27 or 1.29 (can't remember exactly).
Just use the temp root and rumrunner.
For any information read the thread first, before asking.
Also this thread should be moved, because it doesn't belong into the development section.
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thanks i will try to read up and post back if needed. Admin please move the thread to appropriate category.

Sajito said:
Try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2751187 to gain S-OFF. Don't worry about the htcdev part.
I did it on a complete stock sensation xe with hboot 1.27 or 1.29 (can't remember exactly).
Just use the temp root and rumrunner.
For any information read the thread first, before asking.
Also this thread should be moved, because it doesn't belong into the development section.
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i went through the thread again and again but still find it somewhat confusing. I cant seem to separate the temproot process start and end in there. can someone outline just the temproot procedure and the pre-requisite for it ?
Does temproot require controlbear files ? rumrunner site says it requires a htc dev unlocked device. is that a must ?

rajdeeprath said:
i went through the thread again and again but still find it somewhat confusing. I cant seem to separate the temproot process start and end in there. can someone outline just the temproot procedure and the pre-requisite for it ?
Does temproot require controlbear files ? rumrunner site says it requires a htc dev unlocked device. is that a must ?
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I'm not 100% sure about the exact steps anymore, but you don't need Controlbear, you just need the temp root.
When you have temp root, run rumrunner and follow the instructions.
I said read the thread, cause it might be possible that you get the message that it didn't work, while it actually did work.
You'll get everything needed in the thread. Otherwise just ask.

Sajito said:
I'm not 100% sure about the exact steps anymore, but you don't need Controlbear, you just need the temp root.
When you have temp root, run rumrunner and follow the instructions.
I said read the thread, cause it might be possible that you get the message that it didn't work, while it actually did work.
You'll get everything needed in the thread. Otherwise just ask.
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Seriously dont know if i am plain unlucky or topic are not very useful for a newbie.
1. Revolutionary failed
2. i did temp root + rumrunner - failed (image attached)
I wonder if my device was not made on this earth or something. Just simply soff. Also dont know if i cant install a JB rom on this without soff safely.

rajdeeprath said:
Seriously dont know if i am plain unlucky or topic are not very useful for a newbie.
1. Revolutionary failed
2. i did temp root + rumrunner - failed (image attached)
I wonder if my device was not made on this earth or something. Just simply soff. Also dont know if i cant install a JB rom on this without soff safely.
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What firmware and hboot do you have?

My rom is gingerbread stock version 1.52.xxxx and hboot is 1.18.0000

rajdeeprath said:
My rom is gingerbread stock version 1.52.xxxx and hboot is 1.18.0000
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do you have sdk tools installed?(adb/fastboot)
also check if usb debugging mode is ticked

oh! hello again hope you are great.
yes i have adb setup properly. i do android dev so all development tools are setup properly. htc drivers are installed htc sync has been uninstalled.
i have tried on windows 8 and windows 7 pcs.

rajdeeprath said:
oh! hello again hope you are great.
yes i have adb setup properly. i do android dev so all development tools are setup properly. htc drivers are installed htc sync has been uninstalled.
i have tried on windows 8 and windows 7 pcs.
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if revolutionary.io method doesn't work then try to update officially
see this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1672425
then try with juopunutbear or rumrunner method again

rajdeeprath said:
My rom is gingerbread stock version 1.52.xxxx and hboot is 1.18.0000
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One thing you could do is:
- get your phone updated to ICS (OTA over device settings) to get the latest firmware/hboot on it
- HTC Dev unlock your device (nothing complicated, you need to have fastboot running)
- Install/flash latest 4ext recovery (once more via fastboot) and enable smart flash option
Now in recovery with updated firmware/hboot make a nandroid backup and flash almost every rom you like.
In first place I'd not flash a CM12 rom.

tom0769 said:
One thing you could do is:
- get your phone updated to ICS (OTA over device settings) to get the latest firmware/hboot on it
- HTC Dev unlock your device (nothing complicated, you need to have fastboot running)
- Install/flash latest 4ext recovery (once more via fastboot) and enable smart flash option
Now in recovery with updated firmware/hboot make a nandroid backup and flash almost every rom you like.
In first place I'd not flash a CM12 rom.
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firstly thank you very much for continuing to show hope. appreciate that. tell me thiss. i have a ota pending which i haven't gone for yet.
4.0 update sense 3.6 system upgrade 3.33.720.6
see attached image.
i never did that cause not everyone on htc blog had a good experience. Should i do that now ? will that help me move forward? will i be able to install android revolution or vipers or cyanogenmod after this? will i be able to soff?
i understand 3.33 is ics firmware ? right? what if i wish to go for jellybean ?
thanks

rajdeeprath said:
firstly thank you very much for continuing to show hope. appreciate that. tell me thiss. i have a ota pending which i haven't gone for yet.
4.0 update sense 3.6 system upgrade 3.33.720.6
see attached image.
i never did that cause not everyone on htc blog had a good experience. Should i do that now ? will that help me move forward? will i be able to install android revolution or vipers or cyanogenmod after this? will i be able to soff?
i understand 3.33 is ics firmware ? right? what if i wish to go for jellybean ?
thanks
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since you update to ics you will be able to flash every ics/jb/kk/lp custom rom you like

so should i go ahead with the official ics update?

It's up to you.
Might be you're just satisfied with your new ICS firmware.
If you want to go further, unlock and custom recovery is an quite easy step.
For custom rom s-off is not necessarily needed.
Sent from my Sensation using XDA Free mobile app

rajdeeprath said:
so should i go ahead with the official ics update?
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If you do the update, try again with rumrunner after it has finished.

Thanks. I updated to ICS and did a full factory reset. The device seems to be quiet smooth compared to GB though. The next update i do will be using what you suggested. Without SOFF flashing a custom rom.
When i get there i will message back on this thread. Going to test drive this ICS now for a while.time.