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Downgrade hboot 2.00.0002

I want to downgrade my desire S to be able to use revolutionary.
Can I use this method? (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1399331)
My Desire has the following specifications:
- 2.3.5
- Hboot 2.000.002
- 2.10.401.8
What version do I download the RUU? 2.10.401.8?
If this method does not work what happens? The phone continues to work the same way?
Thanks

Fredericosilva said:
I want to downgrade my desire S to be able to use revolutionary.
Can I use this method? (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1399331)
My Desire has the following specifications:
- 2.3.5
- Hboot 2.000.002
- 2.10.401.8
What version do I download the RUU? 2.10.401.8?
If this method does not work what happens? The phone continues to work the same way?
Thanks
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I really wish you wouldn't do that. Switching indiscriminately between HBOOT versions is one possible way (if something goes wrong) to convert your Desire S to one very expensive paperweight. Most new ROMs require the newer HBOOT. Guaranteed you won't be staying long on the old HBOOT. But if you insist, a brief glimpse at the Dev section should satiate your curiosity.

Saipro said:
I really wish you wouldn't do that. Switching indiscriminately between HBOOT versions is one possible way (if something goes wrong) to convert your Desire S to one very expensive paperweight. Most new ROMs require the newer HBOOT. Guaranteed you won't be staying long on the old HBOOT. But if you insist, a brief glimpse at the Dev section should satiate your curiosity.
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So what you recommend to do root and install a new rom? The only way I have to s-off is downgrade hboot, for now...

Fredericosilva said:
So what you recommend to do root and install a new rom? The only way I have to s-off is downgrade hboot, for now...
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Ok. Downgrade. But it's as easy as pushing the appropriate HBOOT to your device via ADB. If you've downloaded the appropriate HBOOT, you're almost there. It's as easy as using this tested & trusted method

Saipro said:
Ok. Downgrade. But it's as easy as pushing the appropriate HBOOT to your device via ADB. If you've downloaded the appropriate HBOOT, you're almost there. It's as easy as using this tested & trusted method
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I believe it's not that easy. Engineering HBOOT (or any HBOOT for that matter) can't be flashed without S-OFF, since HTCDev-unlocked bootloader won't accept that flash, from ADB or any other source - the writes just won't go through, they'll be cached by eMMC and lost upon reboot.
So, as the OP says, he has no choice but to downgrade.
OP, there's a sticky in Development section, ROMS/RECOVERY/ROOT/HBOOT/etc. Please read it instead of posting, and you'll discover 3 guides (at least).

Jack_R1 said:
I believe it's not that easy. Engineering HBOOT (or any HBOOT for that matter) can't be flashed without S-OFF, since HTCDev-unlocked bootloader won't accept that flash, from ADB or any other source - the writes just won't go through, they'll be cached by eMMC and lost upon reboot.
So, as the OP says, he has no choice but to downgrade.
OP, there's a sticky in Development section, ROMS/RECOVERY/ROOT/HBOOT/etc. Please read it instead of posting, and you'll discover 3 guides (at least).
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Well, that could be. But a few people seem to have done it via ADB. What really puzzles me is the number of people who unlock their phones using HTCDEV. It's unbelievable!

It seems much easier and less intimidating than S-OFF guides.
And then they're getting stuck, because they usually don't understand a thing in what they did. And then they come and open endless threads "Ok, I unlocked with HTCDev, now what do I do". Oh well, such is life...

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Jack_R1 said:
I believe it's not that easy. Engineering HBOOT (or any HBOOT for that matter) can't be flashed without S-OFF, since HTCDev-unlocked bootloader won't accept that flash, from ADB or any other source - the writes just won't go through, they'll be cached by eMMC and lost upon reboot.
So, as the OP says, he has no choice but to downgrade.
OP, there's a sticky in Development section, ROMS/RECOVERY/ROOT/HBOOT/etc. Please read it instead of posting, and you'll discover 3 guides (at least).
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Hmm confusing this root is....
Hmm been reading for a week now, I have the same Hboot and RUU and I'm a bit puzzeled.
I don't want to go the HTCDev way, because of the limitations afterward.
I have an unbranded Desire S, S-on and locked, with Hboot 2.00.0002.
- When I understand it right there is no other way then a downgrade right?
- This downgrade has to be done with Zergrush (although I thought it didn't work for 2.3.3 and above?) to gain temp root, then the misc_version to fool the phone so we can use the older RUU (not sure which one to take though, the oldest WWE?)
Now I could s-off through AlpaRev, but I have a question or two there as well
- I want to work with the Engineering Hboot (seems to be better?), can I do this directy via AlphaRev Iso, or do I need to flash/push it later? What would be the advantage over using the Alpharev one?
- Similar question, but now about the recovery that comes with Alpharev (CWM). I prefer 4EXT, can I bake that in in one go, or do I rather use the 4EXT installer from the market afterward?
Feel free to comment on my noobness, but on my desire it was a lot easier.
Don't want to end up with a paper weight.
Cheers
May the force be with you...
Edit: quoted the wrong post...

You sound very well informed and have done your research well, something to be commended.
Downgrade hboot, soff with revolutionary then afterwards fast boot flash eng hboot
Eng hboot is better IMO, as provides you more options
Swyped firm ym Desire S unsig XAD Permuim

ben_pyett said:
You sound very well informed and have done your research well, something to be commended.
Downgrade hboot, soff with revolutionary then afterwards fast boot flash eng hboot
Eng hboot is better IMO, as provides you more options
Swyped firm ym Desire S unsig XAD Permuim
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Thanks for the boost of confidence, I'm no cmd line hero, hence the hesitation.
I used mainly terminal emulator to push recovery, hboot were easy as well with the right zip.
Could you comment in further detail about my RUU question and tell me if it is possible to add EXT4 install with Alparev?
Is this btw also a downgrade of the os and radio? I.o.w. does this process leave me with an old radio and os (2.3.3 without 3.0 sense)?
I understood as well that the hboot 0.98.0000 and 0002, work only with RUU containing 2.3.3?
Does this engineering boot work with 2.3.5 and above?
What confuses the hell out of me is the need to relock the phone, wasn't the whole idea not the direct opposite?
Why this need to relock?
Again, cheers for the help, on the old desire this was all quite easy obtained by just reading and a lot less command line code..

germsandbugs said:
Thanks for the boost of confidence, I'm no cmd line hero, hence the hesitation.
I used mainly terminal emulator to push recovery, hboot were easy as well with the right zip.
Could you comment in further detail about my RUU question and tell me if it is possible to add EXT4 install with Alparev?
Is this btw also a downgrade of the os and radio? I.o.w. does this process leave me with an old radio and os (2.3.3 without 3.0 sense)?
I understood as well that the hboot 0.98.0000 and 0002, work only with RUU containing 2.3.3?
Does this engineering boot work with 2.3.5 and above?
What confuses the hell out of me is the need to relock the phone, wasn't the whole idea not the direct opposite?
Why this need to relock?
Again, cheers for the help, on the old desire this was all quite easy obtained by just reading and a lot less command line code..
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Yes once downgraded you will be on 2.3.3 and sense 2.1.
Did it myself a week back. Don't want sense 3.or 3.5. Perfectly happy with sense 4 and go back to 2.1 for camera.
Coming to the hboot.
you should definitely flash an eng-hboot, which is good on case you need warranty.
I would recommend you to go for the old eng hboot 0.98 as it had a larger cache memory. So should stay on 0.98 unless facing issues.
I don't think you need to relock again. That would be needed only if you need to go for warranty
If you follow the steps listed, out should be straight forward. Let me know if you need any help.
Swyped from a primed Desire S

Rooting ICS.

Just installed ICS on my sensation 4G...
Everything went fine. Here is the problem....
Unable to root. Searched everything and everywhere...getting tired.
Tried Sensation ToolKit to no avail.. Am I missing something???
Phone is S-OFF for the last 9 month, was rooted until I flashed T-mo RUU to prepare for OTA ICS.
Please..... If anyone has any idea, help!!!!

Go to this thread to root ICS.

Thanks.
Just came from that thread... Does not work for me for some reason.....

Just came from that thread... Does not work for me for some reason.....
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Try going to the Play Store and downloading SuperSU or Superuser
and install them. I suggest you try SuperSU first, but some have reported it not working. After you have SuperSU installed download and install BusyBox. Then download Root Checker and run it, if it says you are not rooted then try the other Super User app.
Tester30 said:
Thanks.
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more info
give more info about what rom and firmware you are running...all the sowftware info. will try to help.

If what I posted before does not work do this. Download this file and place it on the root of your SD card and flash it via bootloader. Then use the Recovery you just flashed to flash this SuperSU.zip by chainfire. then download and install Busybox and you will be good to go for any rooted app.
Edit: If you get the following error message then go to this post to resolve the issue.
Model ID Incorrect!
Update Failed
Press <POWER> to reboot.
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manishimo said:
give more info about what rom and firmware you are running...all the sowftware info. will try to help.
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All info posted in initial post.... There's nothing to add....
T-Macgnolia said:
If what I posted before does not work do this. Download this file and place it on the root of your SD card and flash it via bootloader. Then use the Recovery you just flashed to flash this SuperSU.zip by chainfire. then download and install Busybox and you will be good to go for any rooted app..
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Thanks, man!!!
Just getting oldtimers.....LOL
Downloaded wrong software Sensation Toolkit instead of ONE-X Toolkit.
Now..... Rooted and happy!! Re-installed all my old apps Co-Pilot and stuff through TB. Back in business!!!!!!

Hi Guys, sorry for hijacking.
I am a complete HTC noob, only had the Sensation for a couple of weeks.
I had an Xperia X10 before and the rooting process was so much easier!
Although I've been reading post after post after article after post in order to get up-to-speed, I keep going round in circles because I don't understand what S-Off/unlocked bootloaders/rooting/custom versus stock recovery is in the world of HTC...
Anyway, I'm on 4.0.3 stock ROM and all I want to be able to do is to remove a few pieces of bloatware, install SetCPU and be able to use Titanium Backup.
Can you guys explain to me whether I need to be HTC Dev Unlocked to be able to do all that and whether, because I'm not interested in custom ROMS (and if any creators of custom ROMs are reading this, it's not because I don't want to, I just don't understand enough to feel comfortable with installing them!), do I need to be S-Off and have a custom recovery instead of the stock one (and why??).
Thanks guys. Please go easy on me - I have tried to read as much as possible to understand so I'm not just posting because I'm lazy!
Thanks a lot.
-B-

Bullitt_McQueen said:
Hi Guys, sorry for hijacking.
I am a complete HTC noob, only had the Sensation for a couple of weeks.
I had an Xperia X10 before and the rooting process was so much easier!
Although I've been reading post after post after article after post in order to get up-to-speed, I keep going round in circles because I don't understand what S-Off/unlocked bootloaders/rooting/custom versus stock recovery is in the world of HTC...
Anyway, I'm on 4.0.3 stock ROM and all I want to be able to do is to remove a few pieces of bloatware, install SetCPU and be able to use Titanium Backup.
Can you guys explain to me whether I need to be HTC Dev Unlocked to be able to do all that and whether, because I'm not interested in custom ROMS (and if any creators of custom ROMs are reading this, it's not because I don't want to, I just don't understand enough to feel comfortable with installing them!), do I need to be S-Off and have a custom recovery instead of the stock one (and why??).
Thanks guys. Please go easy on me - I have tried to read as much as possible to understand so I'm not just posting because I'm lazy!
Thanks a lot.
-B-
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Hello there!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300 is an awesome guide that you can read through, you do not need to S-Off if you're going to run on roms with the same firmware (3.32.X) as the stock rom is. I suggest you read through the guide and come back here if you have any further questions
EDIT: You must unlock your bootloader via HTCdev but I've heard that there is an unlock (exploit) that doesn't require this on the way, I can't say for sure thou but here is the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25993010&postcount=74
Best Regards
The Doof

Thanks a lot Doof, I appreciate your reply.
To be honest, this was the first place I looked for info, then it transpired that revolutionary wouldn't work with the OTA update to ICS so I held off and did more research. I'm guessing that, I for that part of the guide, revolutionary is working now?

Bullitt_McQueen said:
Thanks a lot Doof, I appreciate your reply.
To be honest, this was the first place I looked for info, then it transpired that revolutionary wouldn't work with the OTA update to ICS so I held off and did more research. I'm guessing that, I for that part of the guide, revolutionary is working now?
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Sadly it doesnt if you have the latest hboot (1.27) which I guess you have since you updated ICS OTA but there is a way to get S-Off http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1611977 using this method, it is a bit tricky but there are guides that explain very well how you do it. I used this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25202517 and it worked out great for me

doofusn said:
Hello there!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300 is an awesome guide that you can read through, you do not need to S-Off if you're going to run on roms with the same firmware (3.32.X) as the stock rom is. I suggest you read through the guide and come back here if you have any further questions
EDIT: You must unlock your bootloader via HTCdev but I've heard that there is an unlock (exploit) that doesn't require this on the way, I can't say for sure thou but here is the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25993010&postcount=74
Best Regards
The Doof
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looking at the date of the post 2011, I would say that it will not do the trick.... Went that way with no results.
When I get home I will edit the post with the link to ONE-X toolkit and some explanation on how I got my ICS rooted and unlocked. Although guide in the reference post is self explanatory and easy to follow.
The thing with ICS is, that it does not except some older CWM recoveries.
To be short.. Will update later.

Thanks Tester, much appreciated.

Bullitt_McQueen said:
Thanks a lot Doof, I appreciate your reply.
To be honest, this was the first place I looked for info, then it transpired that revolutionary wouldn't work with the OTA update to ICS so I held off and did more research. I'm guessing that, I for that part of the guide, revolutionary is working now?
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No Revotionary only supports Hboots up to 1.18.0000, if you are using a ICS ROM you have Hboot 1.21.0000 or higher and can not use Revolutionary. If you use HTC Dev to unlock you can do what you want to, go to here for a good guide. If you want S-off then you will have to use Juopunutbear to S-off, go to here for a guide on it. I recomend S-off but that is up to you as it is your device.

Tester30 said:
looking at the date of the post 2011, I would say that it will not do the trick.... Went that way with no results.
When I get home I will edit the post with the link to ONE-X toolkit and some explanation on how I got my ICS rooted and unlocked. Although guide in the reference post is self explanatory and easy to follow.
The thing with ICS is, that it does not except some older CWM recoveries.
To be short.. Will update later.
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I made yet another post after he asked if Revolutionary would work that it won't and linked him to Joupnout wire trick, there are other things in that guide that can be useful thou.
Also I would recommend using 4EXT recovery.

this workd for me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1632553

wicked.igor said:
this workd for me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1632553
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You still need to unlock your phone via HTCDev thou.. sadly :/

Thanks a lot for replies guys. I will post back when I'm rooted!

Hi, i have a problem i cant solve in last weeks i have tired all possible and im stuck.
I try to use HTC Dev to unlock bootloader in order to get my freedom back, still getting below message:
sending 'unlocktoken' (0 KB)... OKAY [ 0.156s]
writing 'unlocktoken'... FAILED (remote: unlock token check failed)
finished. total time: 0.156s
Details:
HTC Sensation XE hboot 1.27.0000
LOCKED
SON
LE ICS 35 S 251470
3.32.709.108 asia Taiwan
CID HTC612
Please if you guys have any idea

Bullitt_McQueen said:
Thanks Tester, much appreciated.
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Finally got back home.
So... What you need to do is to D/Load ONE-X ToolKit... NOT Sensation ToolKit
ONE-X is here Thanks to Hasoon2000!!!!
Follow the instruction, it will bring you to HTCDEV website, register there and you will get additional set of instructions arranged in very step-by-step way.
Follow those and you'll get your phone unlocked and rooted.
Good luck!!!!

So much info im getting very confused! ruu's and s off.....

Had my HTC ONE S for a while now
When i first got it i followed all the guides to unlocking the bootload and rooting etc and ended up running viper rom, and various others along the way. You know how it is!
Anyhow i was fiddling once and some how managed to delete the sd card and it wouldnt mount.
I fixed that and im not sure if its a coincidence but i now have random call drops even with a good signal. radio randomly coming on and music apps closing...........mainly when using head phones....................
The following is what was suggested to me.................
Sneakyghost said:
Not easy. I'd say do S-OFF as the very first thing (well relatively, of course do the unlock, do the SuperCID, then...). S-OFF ensures you can just flash any RUU and no matter if locked or unlocked or on custom ROM or not.
You can also only do SuperCID and flash any RUU.
Once done, pick the 3.16 WWE RUU. Please do NOT do the OTA which is offered on that RUU if you do not have S-OFF yet as that OTA disables any chance to get S-OFF currently.
If you happen to sit in the US and are on Tmobile, check HERE for latest tmob RUU because you might want Wifi calling and such. Else, just select any you like. I recommend WWE though.
Not really hard then once you got S-OFF. The hard part is understanding S-OFF procedure. If you get that done everything else is pretty easy. There is a thread for S-OFF with a good guide.
Regarding GPS Fix from Crypted: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1563226 (have that open in my browser always cause its a magic little fix)
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Apparently my htc one s is a international one?
Your CID "HTC__001" Suggests you have an international one X and not a carrier locked one xl. You will need to post in the international one x forums.
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Any ideas on what i do now as i cant find a htc one s international forum?
EDIT: regarding the above, no one seemed sure and i couldnt seem to find a definitive answer so rather than messing around changing the cid and risking a brick. Some one suggested RUU_Ville_U_ICS_40_S_HTC_Europe_2.31.401.5_Radio_1.06es.50.02.31_10.09a.50.04L_release_275655_signed.exe
as my radio is 1.06es 50.02.31 and the 2.31 works with hboot of 1.14 which mine also is....................
after all this im even more confused lol!
So currently ive relocked the bootloader using fastboot and run the above RUU and im back to stock i believe?
What would one suggest?
im on hboot 1.14.0002 and radio is 1.06es i believe.
Ideally id like to get back to viper rom
Might test for a few days if i can resist a custom rom just to check
thanks

Even I'm on hboot 1.14.. Get an S-OFF, flash a latest radio ie., 1.15. That should work.

so ifi flash s off i can run any run any ruu without risk of bricking? by changing the cid thing thanks?

Gavin01 said:
so ifi flash s off i can run any run any ruu without risk of bricking? by changing the cid thing thanks?
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Risk of bricking came from.SUPER-CID and OTA update, also downgrading h-boot.

first get supercid, then get S-off, then change cid back to original or desired one. if you have a international S4 device original cid wil do fine.
then ruu what you want, s-off simplifies flashing of ruus and roms and more things.
if you might update the device with latest jb without S-off you cant get S-off no more (as of now), you now have the option.
you can always revert back.

Right guys im still not reallty understanding all this sorry.
My phones now coming up with OTA update which i understand i shouldnt run as this then blocks all chance of getting S-Off in the future?
As i understand it my HTC one is a international one so i dont need to change the cid?
So i need to do is get S-Off and run another RUU?
Ill try and follow the guide to S-Off but even that im struggling with Can anyone tell me what RUU i should be running when i manage to get S-Off. My details are above in the first post i think>?
Thanks for your patience.

You need supercid to get soff (face palm)
Then change cid back to original HTC one. To do any otas you want.
Advice:
Before you start. look at your current software version Google the ruu from that info, save the file. When need to ever change back in the future, and then ota back to latest version.
Verstuurd van mijn One S met Tapatalk

im still scared of this super cid thing as ive read a few people have bricked their phones
Although i keep getting the annoying message that a system update is available so i must try and do something soon.
Unless i just go straight to viper

Gavin01 said:
im still scared of this super cid thing as ive read a few people have bricked their phones
Although i keep getting the annoying message that a system update is available so i must try and do something soon.
Unless i just go straight to viper
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If it's just the message you want to get rid of, just turn off automatic update checks.
HTC_One_S | S-OFF | ViperOneS_2.2.0 | Black&Blue_Inverted_Sense | Bulletproof_1.4
Inverted Sense _4+_and_5_click me

Hello
Ok .. since i see some nice gentlemen here responding to queries with patience .. I'd like to post one myself.
I obtained S-Off the very next day i got my One S .. things were running smooth on stock. Looked out for some ROMS and finally installed one. Now I want to revert to my stock ROM while maintaining S-off/root. My problem is only that i don't find this ROM stable or the kernel .. just want to revert to stock.
Will flashing 3.16 WWE RUU take me back to stock firmware and kernel?
Would really appreciate the help

[Q] [OneSV cricket k2_plc_cl] boot problems after moonshine attpemt 2

I have a one SV on cricket (US)
K2_PLC_CL (s-on) still
Ok so it was all stock from store. Tan I did this in order:
1.) Unlocked bootloader from HTC dev...
2.) (flashed) Installed CMW v6.0.2.8 via ADB
3.) MADE BACKUP with CWM
4.) Rooted by flashing a zip via CMW (worked great)
5.) tried moonshine.io for s-off tried twice. Failed
-program (distiller) closed after saying "moonshining 1...2...3...to 10)
-now on boot it gets to "Htc
I booted into CMW and retored that backup i had before any rooting or s-off etc... but it still hangs :silly:
Should I try the hboot option to restore? (I thought CMW backup was like a complete nand backup. Which should be bullet proof right?)
Thanks for looking guys! I have no communication as of now I just want to make calls at least
This is my first android device and I always like getting to know my devices from the inside, the iphone BS was too much haha. I gues i dont really need s off or super cid if it means no phone. but why not if it works.

Did you have ICS or JB, when you have tried S-off?
Please remember, as long as you are S-on you must flash the boot.img with fastboot commands (also, if you are restoring a backup and you did a full wipe)! If you have a cwm backup, boot.img should be inside of your backup folder.
Did you wipe everything before your restore? Maybe fragments of moonshine still there.
Did you try TWRP recovery?

[HTC oneSV boot hang, FIXED] THANKS!!
LOL I had no idea the boot.img had to to be manually flashed, thank you very much it work s great now!
This time I cleared/wiped data AND cache. it still hanged and wont boot. Than I re tried using CWM again to restore (still hangs). than I flashed boot.img THAT DID THE TRICK after "fastboot reboot".
BTW major fail on my part; I was rooting and moonshining for JB it turns out I have ICS (i forgot to update) now that you mentioned it hehehe
I had 4.0.4 sense 4.1. I think that is why everything went to hell...
Alright Ill try moonshine after the update to JB 4.1.2 if that fails than Ill try the facepalm.
One last question; if i do update to JB 4.1.2 and achieve s-off could I use that CMW backup to always go back to ICS 4.0.4? (just incase I ever wanted to get SUPER CID and get JB 4.2.2) I wonder if super cid works with k2-PLC-cl.... Ill try it when I get find the funds a better phone to risk a brick
-Thank you sir!

Ok, lets bring a bit light into these darkness:
- Facepalm S-Off only works, as long as you did not achieve the JB update!
- You can restore a ics cwm backup, also when you are on JB and S-Off, but
- Restoring ics from a backup is not the same, as you where on ics before the update.
Thats because of the updated hboot (ics-> hboot 1.0; jb-> hboot 2.0). In hboot 2.0 the Supercid/Facepalm exploit is fixed. You can still get Supercid under hboot 2.0, but you must do moonshine S-Off before.
So, at all you must think about, what you want and whats the best way to get, before updating to jb.
If this was to difficult to understand, ask again and i will try my best to explain it for you to understand.

Ok
Hum they creators of these phones really enjoy making puzzles for us don't they...
Alright so my options are:
1.) [stay on ICS]
-get super cid
-facepalm for s-off
(can I still update to JB after this and still have super cid and s-off? But that would install hbot2 wouldnt it? so....)
I think I want method 2↓
2.) [update to JB]
-use moonshine to get s-off
-some how get super cid? (I dont really need super cid but it would be nice to know I have it just in case)
-profit
//edit//(ohh yes, once on JB hboot v2, if i have s off and on hboot2 could I go back to hboot1 along with ICS should i need to)
Any ways thank you again

1. Right, you can update and both will stay.
2. Right, after S-Off you should be able to change SuperCid. But it should be said, that its a very risky operation and phone can be bricked very easily if you are doing something wrong.
And for your edit: You can restore a ics backup, but without a RUU it is difficult to bring back hboot 1. Only a backup of it will solve this. Recoveries usually don't backup hboot.

SV ICS super cid
I know this thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2264322
says to do super cid on original stock, but could I just go ahead and HEX my cid with my ICS that is unlocked/rooted/custom-recovery?
Do I have to un-do all of that to change the CID? or is that just good technique? [im also on cricket ics 4.0.4 if it matters, k2_plc_cl]
Thank you very much! I wish to change my cid right now but ill wait and see what you say if it saves me from a brick
than I'm off to s-off for all the goodies that follow haha.

I don't think, that this will be important, because SuperCid is located in a partition which has nothing to do with root or recovery.

alrighty than
haha wrong link in previous post I meant this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26516911#post26516911
WHEN HTCDEV UNLOCKS YOUR DEVICE YOU MUST START FROM SCRATCH!!!
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I was reading his link and somehow posted your link, Ill use your link actually now that I read it... I thought it wouldn't matter, better safe than sorry. Ill try it out and see how it goes.
Thanks for helping

Questions about hexing CID
old.splatterhand said:
I don't think, that this will be important, because SuperCid is located in a partition which has nothing to do with root or recovery.
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Alright its late and I'm not going to flash it yet ill wait to see what you make of this:
I have used hxd many times for xbox/psp/etc so i know how it works... it found 3 instances of my CID
(some info omitted as the 'x' char)
Code:
maincid=CRICK001xx.xx.cidlist=CRICK001.xx.xx.rid=105.xx.xx.modelid=PL8xxxxxx.xx.xx.report=com.xx.xx.skulist=1xxx.xx.xx.taskid=30xxxx.xx.xx.mainsku=1xxx.xx.onecid=1.xx.cwkey=CRICK001.ro.com.google.clientidbase=android-htc //more stuff after........
Im assuming only the first instance "maincid=CRICK001" needs to be 11111111
(or should all 3 instances of "CRICK001" be changed to 11111111)
Ill give it a go after work tomorrow when Im confident that my modifications wont render my phone as a door stop.
I need to buy you a beer, but the donation is in german, ill have to translate it when I get done

Gain_Medium said:
Alright its late and I'm not going to flash it yet ill wait to see what you make of this:
I have used hxd many times for xbox/psp/etc so i know how it works... it found 3 instances of my CID
(some info omitted as the 'x' char)
Code:
maincid=CRICK001xx.xx.cidlist=CRICK001.xx.xx.rid=105.xx.xx.modelid=PL8xxxxxx.xx.xx.report=com.xx.xx.skulist=1xxx.xx.xx.taskid=30xxxx.xx.xx.mainsku=1xxx.xx.onecid=1.xx.cwkey=CRICK001.ro.com.google.clientidbase=android-htc //more stuff after........
Im assuming only the first instance "maincid=CRICK001" needs to be 11111111
(or should all 3 instances of "CRICK001" be changed to 11111111)
Ill give it a go after work tomorrow when Im confident that my modifications wont render my phone as a door stop.
I need to buy you a beer, but the donation is in german, ill have to translate it when I get done
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At this point i only can tell you about my guide and the picture inside. To be honest, i only noticed only one cid, together with imei. So maybe this helps you.
Edit:
Please, really be careful if your file/block is different than in my guide!
I'm on mobile and can't look at your code completely.
My guide for sure works for k2u & k2ul cause i did it myself at two different phones but i don't know, if cricket has changed more and i don't want your phone bricked.
Edit2:
I really not sure, if changing CID will work. Maybe you'll try the S-Off step by Moonshine after update to JB, would be better than a bricked phone!
You must also think, what do i profit from SuperCID?
K2u & k2ul can be unbranded this way, maybe they also profit from earlier updates.
But you can't use k2u/l Software on US phones, different network, so this point is useless for you. And i don't think, cricket will release their updates earlier for phones with SuperCID.
Just my two cents, now its on you to make your decision...

What i also want to say, i had help the first time i did.
It was @jmz who helped me, maybe he reads that and know more about cricket cid.

I think ill give it a go
I actually tried to contact him and others, but since im so new I can't send PMs (they send but nothing is in my sent box. link it never happened) so I guess unless JMZ stumbles upon this thread thats it.
As for me I don't think it would brick my phone (like a real brick) if all else I could just boot into recovery and flash back my backup stuff right?
Or if i screw up would it not even allow recovery / shell? Although a brick would permit me to buy a better popular phone
If i try it all post more details on it for other cricket users.

This is modifying the bootloader. If you do something wrong, the phone wont boot. Not in recovery, not in OS, bricked.
PS. @Gain_Medium
If you write a xda username with an @ before, the one will be notified, the he is mentioned somewhere

Side note: I don't believe that there is any reason for super cid on a cricket us carrier, unless you plan on traveling to Europe, Asia, or anywhere out of the continent.
Yes, it's cool to have accomplished superCID. But there is really no benefit here in the US, if you plan on maybe using a different service plan provider, you'll still need to unlock your SIM, even if you do achieve superCID without bricking.
Good luck with your decision. I hope to read your updates on what you have chosen. And how everything goes for you.
THESE ARE ONLY MY THOUGHTS AND OPINIONS. NOT TRYING TO SWAY YOU AWAY FROM ATTEMPTING ANYTHING.
but please research superCID for cricket mobile and see what you find.
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[Q] need help with installing custom rom on htc sensation pyramid

hi everyone
i havebeen struggling with this for 2 years now. i have HTC sensation with hboot 1.18.xxxx that i bought in 2011. after the first year i have been keen to move to a newer rom. i have tried to look up inf in xda and elsewhere and got no where with this.
i have been worried about bricking so much that i didnt try to many weird procedures. i had even tried to go through with the android revolution installation procedure but failed right on. because revolutionary does not with with my device even though thr hboot is supported.
i badly need to move to a newer jelly bean based rom or later else my device is like a stone-age crap. i sincerely request some straight forward process / guidance of getting through this without weird, wire trick etc.
i really want to keep this device instead of buying a new device for no reason. but i dont know how to start and how to end. kindly help me out.

rajdeeprath said:
hi everyone
i havebeen struggling with this for 2 years now. i have HTC sensation with hboot 1.18.xxxx that i bought in 2011. after the first year i have been keen to move to a newer rom. i have tried to look up inf in xda and elsewhere and got no where with this.
i have been worried about bricking so much that i didnt try to many weird procedures. i had even tried to go through with the android revolution installation procedure but failed right on. because revolutionary does not with with my device even though thr hboot is supported.
i badly need to move to a newer jelly bean based rom or later else my device is like a stone-age crap. i sincerely request some straight forward process / guidance of getting through this without weird, wire trick etc.
i really want to keep this device instead of buying a new device for no reason. but i dont know how to start and how to end. kindly help me out.
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1st
This is definately not the place to ask for "all inclusive help".
You should at least do some own basic researches or leave your phone as it is,
especially when you're worried about bricking your device.
There are so many excellent descriptions here, that could guide you to flash a custom rom.
2nd
If you are on hboot 1.18 you don't need to do the wire trick for s-off, just have a look at this.
If you searched a little bit, you'd find out yourself.
But even the wire trick is nothing "bad", I did it on 6 devices till now.
I'd like to encourage you to simply read/search a little bit more here in the forums before coming back and asking for help.

tom0769 said:
1st
This is definately not the place to ask for "all inclusive help".
You should at least do some own basic researches or leave your phone as it is,
especially when you're worried about bricking your device.
There are so many excellent descriptions here, that could guide you to flash a custom rom.
2nd
If you are on hboot 1.18 you don't need to do the wire trick for s-off, just have a look at this.
If you searched a little bit, you'd find out yourself.
But even the wire trick is nothing "bad", I did it on 6 devices till now.
I'd like to encourage you to simply read/search a little bit more here in the forums before coming back and asking for help.
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thanks for the reply. as i mentioned revolutionary does NOT work for me. it says failed to get root. i have already tried those things about 8 times now and it didnt work for me. thats why i have posted here for help.
using htcdev i know i can try to unlock but it wont soff. so i dont know if that will help me or not.

rajdeeprath said:
thanks for the reply. as i mentioned revolutionary does NOT work for me. it says failed to get root. i have already tried those things about 8 times now and it didnt work for me. thats why i have posted here for help.
using htcdev i know i can try to unlock but it wont soff. so i dont know if that will help me or not.
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Try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2751187 to gain S-OFF. Don't worry about the htcdev part.
I did it on a complete stock sensation xe with hboot 1.27 or 1.29 (can't remember exactly).
Just use the temp root and rumrunner.
For any information read the thread first, before asking.
Also this thread should be moved, because it doesn't belong into the development section.

Sajito said:
Try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2751187 to gain S-OFF. Don't worry about the htcdev part.
I did it on a complete stock sensation xe with hboot 1.27 or 1.29 (can't remember exactly).
Just use the temp root and rumrunner.
For any information read the thread first, before asking.
Also this thread should be moved, because it doesn't belong into the development section.
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thanks i will try to read up and post back if needed. Admin please move the thread to appropriate category.

Sajito said:
Try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2751187 to gain S-OFF. Don't worry about the htcdev part.
I did it on a complete stock sensation xe with hboot 1.27 or 1.29 (can't remember exactly).
Just use the temp root and rumrunner.
For any information read the thread first, before asking.
Also this thread should be moved, because it doesn't belong into the development section.
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i went through the thread again and again but still find it somewhat confusing. I cant seem to separate the temproot process start and end in there. can someone outline just the temproot procedure and the pre-requisite for it ?
Does temproot require controlbear files ? rumrunner site says it requires a htc dev unlocked device. is that a must ?

rajdeeprath said:
i went through the thread again and again but still find it somewhat confusing. I cant seem to separate the temproot process start and end in there. can someone outline just the temproot procedure and the pre-requisite for it ?
Does temproot require controlbear files ? rumrunner site says it requires a htc dev unlocked device. is that a must ?
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I'm not 100% sure about the exact steps anymore, but you don't need Controlbear, you just need the temp root.
When you have temp root, run rumrunner and follow the instructions.
I said read the thread, cause it might be possible that you get the message that it didn't work, while it actually did work.
You'll get everything needed in the thread. Otherwise just ask.

Sajito said:
I'm not 100% sure about the exact steps anymore, but you don't need Controlbear, you just need the temp root.
When you have temp root, run rumrunner and follow the instructions.
I said read the thread, cause it might be possible that you get the message that it didn't work, while it actually did work.
You'll get everything needed in the thread. Otherwise just ask.
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Seriously dont know if i am plain unlucky or topic are not very useful for a newbie.
1. Revolutionary failed
2. i did temp root + rumrunner - failed (image attached)
I wonder if my device was not made on this earth or something. Just simply soff. Also dont know if i cant install a JB rom on this without soff safely.

rajdeeprath said:
Seriously dont know if i am plain unlucky or topic are not very useful for a newbie.
1. Revolutionary failed
2. i did temp root + rumrunner - failed (image attached)
I wonder if my device was not made on this earth or something. Just simply soff. Also dont know if i cant install a JB rom on this without soff safely.
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What firmware and hboot do you have?

My rom is gingerbread stock version 1.52.xxxx and hboot is 1.18.0000

rajdeeprath said:
My rom is gingerbread stock version 1.52.xxxx and hboot is 1.18.0000
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do you have sdk tools installed?(adb/fastboot)
also check if usb debugging mode is ticked

oh! hello again hope you are great.
yes i have adb setup properly. i do android dev so all development tools are setup properly. htc drivers are installed htc sync has been uninstalled.
i have tried on windows 8 and windows 7 pcs.

rajdeeprath said:
oh! hello again hope you are great.
yes i have adb setup properly. i do android dev so all development tools are setup properly. htc drivers are installed htc sync has been uninstalled.
i have tried on windows 8 and windows 7 pcs.
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if revolutionary.io method doesn't work then try to update officially
see this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1672425
then try with juopunutbear or rumrunner method again

rajdeeprath said:
My rom is gingerbread stock version 1.52.xxxx and hboot is 1.18.0000
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One thing you could do is:
- get your phone updated to ICS (OTA over device settings) to get the latest firmware/hboot on it
- HTC Dev unlock your device (nothing complicated, you need to have fastboot running)
- Install/flash latest 4ext recovery (once more via fastboot) and enable smart flash option
Now in recovery with updated firmware/hboot make a nandroid backup and flash almost every rom you like.
In first place I'd not flash a CM12 rom.

tom0769 said:
One thing you could do is:
- get your phone updated to ICS (OTA over device settings) to get the latest firmware/hboot on it
- HTC Dev unlock your device (nothing complicated, you need to have fastboot running)
- Install/flash latest 4ext recovery (once more via fastboot) and enable smart flash option
Now in recovery with updated firmware/hboot make a nandroid backup and flash almost every rom you like.
In first place I'd not flash a CM12 rom.
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firstly thank you very much for continuing to show hope. appreciate that. tell me thiss. i have a ota pending which i haven't gone for yet.
4.0 update sense 3.6 system upgrade 3.33.720.6
see attached image.
i never did that cause not everyone on htc blog had a good experience. Should i do that now ? will that help me move forward? will i be able to install android revolution or vipers or cyanogenmod after this? will i be able to soff?
i understand 3.33 is ics firmware ? right? what if i wish to go for jellybean ?
thanks

rajdeeprath said:
firstly thank you very much for continuing to show hope. appreciate that. tell me thiss. i have a ota pending which i haven't gone for yet.
4.0 update sense 3.6 system upgrade 3.33.720.6
see attached image.
i never did that cause not everyone on htc blog had a good experience. Should i do that now ? will that help me move forward? will i be able to install android revolution or vipers or cyanogenmod after this? will i be able to soff?
i understand 3.33 is ics firmware ? right? what if i wish to go for jellybean ?
thanks
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since you update to ics you will be able to flash every ics/jb/kk/lp custom rom you like

so should i go ahead with the official ics update?

It's up to you.
Might be you're just satisfied with your new ICS firmware.
If you want to go further, unlock and custom recovery is an quite easy step.
For custom rom s-off is not necessarily needed.
Sent from my Sensation using XDA Free mobile app

rajdeeprath said:
so should i go ahead with the official ics update?
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If you do the update, try again with rumrunner after it has finished.

Thanks. I updated to ICS and did a full factory reset. The device seems to be quiet smooth compared to GB though. The next update i do will be using what you suggested. Without SOFF flashing a custom rom.
When i get there i will message back on this thread. Going to test drive this ICS now for a while.time.