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Soft bricked(total noob) just got the JIG, got into download menu.
Can someone give me instructions on how to get back to stock, gain root, and install custom ROMS/ MIUI
It be very appreciated, i'm doing this for a buddy and i don't want to give him a brick lol.
1. for restoring stock : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989
2. use superoneclick to root
3. Install clockwork recovery and rom manager
4. Install custom roms.
Wait before you flash that, what firmware version did it come with???
It could mess your phone up if it isn't right.
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Wait before you flash that, what firmware version did it come with???
It could mess your phone up if it isn't right.
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Pretty sure it came with 2.2 but not sure.
Then I wouldn't do that 2.1 Odin one click.... Look for a stock 2.2 Odin or Heimdall, make sure to read thoroughly too.
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Then I wouldn't do that 2.1 Odin one click.... Look for a stock 2.2 Odin or Heimdall, make sure to read thoroughly too.
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See thats the thing i hate to be a pain but im looking for detailed instructions.
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Wait before you flash that, what firmware version did it come with???
It could mess your phone up if it isn't right.
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thank you for pointing it out
OP might want to look at these threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15330252
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=963403
Note: as b-eock pointed out, make sure what was your stock version before restoring it!
I've always just flashed newer than my stock to avoid that problem and it always works well for me, after bricking or when i want to flash a new rom i flash to cappy gingerbread and flash boog kernal to get CWM(clockworkmod). CWM is essential is you plan on flashing to other roms. If you plan on flashing to another rom anyways it doesn't matter which version of stock you load as long as it work so I'd just flash 2.2 or newer.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1300843
- this has all the odin 1-click flashable packages for captivate
To do everything you want to do...
flash back to stock, use 2.2 or one of the 2.3 versions. If you plan on flashing to a gingerbread rom (2.3) you'll most likely need the gingerbread bootloaders, if you don't originally flash a odin package with the gingerbread bootloaders you might be asked to install them later depending on what rom you use
incase you don't know odin is the computer program used to flash one click packages, you can find it by searching XDA, one click packages won't require it.
odin has to be open before you plug the usb into the phone putting it into download mode.
to flash to other roms you need CWM (ClockWorkMod-a customized recovery mode for the phone) the thread in this post has links to odin flashable kernals with CWM for each software build. To get CWM flash the respective kernal for the version you use. You'll need odin to flash the new kernal, its essentially stock apart from CWM. In odin select PDA and browse to the kernal zip to flash it.
you can search around XDA for oneclickroots, they will typically be odin or CWM flashable it's quite straight forward. New roms will typically already be rooted so you shouldn't have to root again.
good luck!
Does anyone know which exact ODIN i need to flash to get back to 2.2 from download mode.
You can use adamoutler's uckb2 heimdall one click. That's stock 2.2.
But whitch ODIN do i use.
Gez, HTC is so much easier then this samsung!
David522d said:
But whitch ODIN do i use.
Gez, HTC is so much easier then this samsung!
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Unfortunately, there is currently no Odin one-click of stock Froyo (at least that I'm aware of). If you want stock Froyo, you'll need to either piece it together with full Odin, or use the Heimdall One-Click.
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Unfortunately, there is currently no Odin one-click of stock Froyo (at least that I'm aware of). If you want stock Froyo, you'll need to either piece it together with full Odin, or use the Heimdall One-Click.
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*Update*
I flashed the 2.2 from this http://www.mobiletechvideos.com/blog/?page_id=186
Now i need to root and install recovery please SOMEONE HELP ME!!!! im so ****ty with this crap. Soon as i get recovery ill be straight.
David522d said:
*Update*
I flashed the 2.2 from this http://www.mobiletechvideos.com/blog/?page_id=186
Now i need to root and install recovery please SOMEONE HELP ME!!!! im so ****ty with this crap. Soon as i get recovery ill be straight.
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Take a look in this post. That should get you the right 3E recovery.
Once you have that, you can either use ROM Manager to install CWM recovery, or see if you can find a kernel with it already baked in and use ODIN to flash the kernel (look for the speedmod kernel).
Or you could flash stock GB, but that updates bootloaders and is a whole different can of worms.
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Take a look in this post. That should get you the right 3E recovery.
Once you have that, you can either use ROM Manager to install CWM recovery, or see if you can find a kernel with it already baked in and use ODIN to flash the kernel (look for the speedmod kernel).
Or you could flash stock GB, but that updates bootloaders and is a whole different can of worms.
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wouldnt it be better to root first? My focus is just getting MIUI on this thing
Another update.
I rooted the 2.2 im on and now enabled non market apps to be downloaded.
Can someone now tell me how to install recovery and install custom ROMS!
i know i know im annoying, im sorry!
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wouldnt it be better to root first? My focus is just getting MIUI on this thing
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Normally, the answer would be yes. However, as part of the Froyo update, AT&T managed to mess up the recovery menu, meaning that it won't flash unsigned packages. This makes getting CWM basically impossible without doing the steps in that post or flashing a different kernel.
You can root if you want to, but doing the steps in that post first will save you some headache.
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Normally, the answer would be yes. However, as part of the Froyo update, AT&T managed to mess up the recovery menu, meaning that it won't flash unsigned packages. This makes getting CWM basically impossible without doing the steps in that post or flashing a different kernel.
You can root if you want to, but doing the steps in that post first will save you some headache.
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I already rooted =/ , should i still try this?
If you have full ODIN, go here, and download the kernel labeled "speedmod-kernel-i897-k13c-500hz.tar" at the end of the first post. Open Odin, and in the "PDA" slot, navigate to the .tar file and flash it. That will get you the speedmod kernel, which has CWM, which you need to be able to flash.
Once it's flashed, just hold V+/V-/Power until it reboots, and then you'll be in CWM and can flash MIUI.
I'm assuming you've backed up all your apps with Titanium Backup, right? If you haven't, do that before you do anything else so you don't lose them.
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If you have full ODIN, go here, and download the kernel labeled "speedmod-kernel-i897-k13c-500hz.tar" at the end of the first post. Open Odin, and in the "PDA" slot, navigate to the .tar file and flash it. That will get you the speedmod kernel, which has CWM, which you need to be able to flash.
Once it's flashed, just hold V+/V-/Power until it reboots, and then you'll be in CWM and can flash MIUI.
I'm assuming you've backed up all your apps with Titanium Backup, right? If you haven't, do that before you do anything else so you don't lose them.
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Im not sure if i have "FULL" ODIN. I have the ODIN i just used to install 2.2. Then i rooted it using SUPER1CLICK.
Where do i get the full odin
Sorry people im new to Samsung and got a question... i used odin to flash CWM to my girls skyrocket... im pretty sure like nvflash i only have to do that one time... but anyways... ive heard that it counts the times that you've flashed something to the phone... if i only use CWM to flash rom's etc does the phone or odin still count those... or does odin only count the flashes when i use odin to flash something...?? sorry guyz im use to fastboot and nvflash new to the whole odin thing...although my next phone may be a samsung.. thanks for any help in advance....
Yes odin Only triggers flash counter When you use it!!!!!! For me i never used Odin so my cusom binary dLoad says No!!!!!!
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Sorry people im new to Samsung and got a question... i used odin to flash CWM to my girls skyrocket... im pretty sure like nvflash i only have to do that one time... but anyways... ive heard that it counts the times that you've flashed something to the phone... if i only use CWM to flash rom's etc does the phone or odin still count those... or does odin only count the flashes when i use odin to flash something...?? sorry guyz im use to fastboot and nvflash new to the whole odin thing...although my next phone may be a samsung.. thanks for any help in advance....
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ive flashed roms many times and i've always resorted to stock rom because its the most stable, the only times the flash counter was triggered is when i flashed back to stock. Is there a way to reset the flash counter, not that i care because if my phone break or need warranty, i dont send to for repair, rogers send me a new phone and i put the broken one in the box and send it back to them. but if ive ever had to, how can i reset flash counter?
it only gets triggered when you flash KERNEL in odin/heimdall, NOT just flashing recovery or /system.
CWM will never trigger the flash counter, period, no matter what you flash in CWM
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Yes odin Only triggers flash counter When you use it!!!!!! For me i never used Odin so my cusom binary dLoad says No!!!!!!
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He's asking if cwm will trip the counter in odin. It will not. I flash 3e and cwm back n forth for clean wipes before I switch roms and I'm still showing NO. Flashing a rom will from what I've read.
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polish_pat said:
ive flashed roms many times and i've always resorted to stock rom because its the most stable, the only times the flash counter was triggered is when i flashed back to stock. Is there a way to reset the flash counter, not that i care because if my phone break or need warranty, i dont send to for repair, rogers send me a new phone and i put the broken one in the box and send it back to them. but if ive ever had to, how can i reset flash counter?
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You can't.
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Silly question, but why do developers package ROMS for ODIN and not CWM? Is it a lot more work? For instance, I cannot find Rogers stock ROM for CWM.
.......the tars can for one take you back too 100 percent stock. And 2 if ur soft brickd ...and your phone wont even boot to cwm. Odin is your only answer. The tars get you back to stock recovery also
Is there a "pure stock" CWM flashable ROM? I'm returning my Skyrocket and am hesitant to Odin it just for the continual discussion of the counter...
That said, all I really need to do is get pure stock rom back on it, and then flash stock recovery as a last step with CWM..
Any one know if something like this exists?
Frankly, no
thekurrgan said:
Is there a "pure stock" CWM flashable ROM? I'm returning my Skyrocket and am hesitant to Odin it just for the continual discussion of the counter...
That said, all I really need to do is get pure stock rom back on it, and then flash stock recovery as a last step with CWM..
Any one know if something like this exists?
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I'm not sure it would be possible to flash stock revovery with CWM when the stock recovery you are flashing (3e) is replacing cwm. I'm pretty sure that is why stock recovery is flashed via Odin.
thekurrgan said:
Is there a "pure stock" CWM flashable ROM? I'm returning my Skyrocket and am hesitant to Odin it just for the continual discussion of the counter...
That said, all I really need to do is get pure stock rom back on it, and then flash stock recovery as a last step with CWM..
Any one know if something like this exists?
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You can flash the stock 2.3.6 KK1 rom/kernel taken from the ATT OTA back in November via CWM... completely stock but is rooted... then use Odin to flash the stock 3e Recovery partition. Flashing recovery partition via odin does not trip the custom binary flash counter... I've done it multiple times and my counter is still "No" (i.e., zero). Then you'll have stock rom, kernel, and 3e recovery... just need to unroot. Flashing a kernel (boot.img) via odin will trip the counter.
ok so I was an original GS III owner (I preordered, used the original root66, waited for the unlocked bootloader, etc.)
I just rx'ed a 2nd replacement because the power button fell off my first replacement (my 1st gsIII had a faulty modem).
This one came preloaded with the 2nd OTA (VRALHE)
I was wondering the correct method to go about setting it up...
1.) odin the original root66 VRALF and continue in the same way I did with my original one (dd a TWRP and the insecure bootloader)?
2.) I could follow the directions in section 1 here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
and odin a pre-rooted VRBLJ1. It then says I can just go ahead and add a custom recovery (it mentions the EZ app but I'd rather just dd. then do the insecure aboot the same way)
3.) I could follow the directions here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1974114
it mentions ODINing the VRBLJ1 leak and then ODINing a custom recovery but the recoveries INCLUDE "VRBLJ1 Bootchain." Why?
according to Invisiblek (http://rootzwiki.com/topic/29256-ro...-unlock-sch-i535-d2vzwverizon-galaxy-s-iii/):
What the locked bootloader prevents us from doing is flashing, via odin, a custom recovery or kernel. What we can do however, is revert to an older (semi-insecure) bootchain which we have acquired, flash our custom recovery, and then continue on from our freshly flashed custom recovery by flashing an unlocked bootloader and anything else we want.
Kernels from the newer OTA's prevent us from doing this process. We'll need to flash a kernel too...
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he mentions flashing the VRALEC and then later (after flashing the VRALF2 kernel and a custom recovery) the VRALF2 bootchain. His explanation makes sense, but the other threads say to use the VRBLJ1 bootchain. why all the conflicting info?
Also, as I wrote this I used the rootDebugFS thing on my freshly rx'ed VRALHE. i then dd'ed a recovery and the insecure aboot. Everything is working fine. So what's all the fuss about? and will I encounter problems if I try to odin anything, like invisiblek said?
Thanks
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ok so I was an original GS III owner (I preordered, used the original root66, waited for the unlocked bootloader, etc.)
I just rx'ed a 2nd replacement because the power button fell off my first replacement (my 1st gsIII had a faulty modem).
This one came preloaded with the 2nd OTA (VRALHE)
I was wondering the correct method to go about setting it up...
1.) odin the original root66 VRALF and continue in the same way I did with my original one (dd a TWRP and the insecure bootloader)?
2.) I could follow the directions in section 1 here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
and odin a pre-rooted VRBLJ1. It then says I can just go ahead and add a custom recovery (it mentions the EZ app but I'd rather just dd. then do the insecure aboot the same way)
3.) I could follow the directions here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1974114
it mentions ODINing the VRBLJ1 leak and then ODINing a custom recovery but the recoveries INCLUDE "VRBLJ1 Bootchain." Why?
according to Invisiblek (http://rootzwiki.com/topic/29256-ro...-unlock-sch-i535-d2vzwverizon-galaxy-s-iii/):
he mentions flashing the VRALEC and then later (after flashing the VRALF2 kernel and a custom recovery) the VRALF2 bootchain. His explanation makes sense, but the other threads say to use the VRBLJ1 bootchain. why all the conflicting info?
Also, as I wrote this I used the rootDebugFS thing on my freshly rx'ed VRALHE. i then dd'ed a recovery and the insecure aboot. Everything is working fine. So what's all the fuss about? and will I encounter problems if I try to odin anything, like invisiblek said?
Thanks
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I'm assuming since VRBLJ1 is the newest JB leak then it uses the newer boot chain. The only reason you would need that boot chain to unlock the bootloader is if you used Odin to flash the newest VZW JB leak onto your phone. Then you would need it to unlock the VRBLJ1 JB leak. If you are are any of the ICS stock ROMs and want to unlock you can use the old way of doing it. The post you are reading from invisiblek is old, it was when we were on the VRALFW stock ROM.
Now I have no clue why you would want to use Odin to flash the newest JB leak when you can do it by downloading the version of the ROM made to be flashed with TWRP or CWM. I would love to have a dev or someone knowledgeable about these things to chime in and tell us if there is any benefit to using Odin to update to the newest JB leak or if there is no difference between having the JB leak or one of the OTA's on your phone before you flash a ROM.
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I'm assuming since VRBLJ1 is the newest JB leak then it uses the newer boot chain. The only reason you would need that boot chain to unlock the bootloader is if you used Odin to flash the newest VZW JB leak onto your phone. Then you would need it to unlock the VRBLJ1 JB leak. If you are are any of the ICS stock ROMs and want to unlock you can use the old way of doing it. The post you are reading from invisiblek is old, it was when we were on the VRALFW stock ROM.
Now I have no clue why you would want to use Odin to flash the newest JB leak when you can do it by downloading the version of the ROM made to be flashed with TWRP or CWM. I would love to have a dev or someone knowledgeable about these things to chime in and tell us if there is any benefit to using Odin to update to the newest JB leak or if there is no difference between having the JB leak or one of the OTA's on your phone before you flash a ROM.
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Its just another way of basically doing the same thing. If your already rooted and have cwm recovery, then flashing a J1 rom via cwm or twrp recovery is by far the easiest method. Now if your stock and unrooted, it would be easier to odin root66 J1 , then unlock and get cwm recovery via the ez unlock/recovery apps. This is why I have 2 different methods in my guide...I also chose to not flash bootchains unless its a last resort because they can perma brick a device if something goes wrong. Also I like to use methods that dont trip the flash counter, makes for one less thing to do if the device ever needs to be returned.
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Its just another way of basically doing the same thing. If your already rooted and have cwm recovery, then flashing a J1 rom via cwm or twrp recovery is by far the easiest method. Now if your stock and unrooted, it would be easier to odin root66 J1 , then unlock and get cwm recovery via the ez unlock/recovery apps. This is why I have 2 different methods in my guide...I also chose to not flash bootchains unless its a last resort because they can perma brick a device if something goes wrong. Also I like to use methods that dont trip the flash counter, makes for one less thing to do if the device ever needs to be returned.
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Gotcha, that's been bothering me for a few days. I remember when I was flashing on my RAZR that the stock OTA was the base for everything and if you didn't have the latest OTA some of the ROMs wouldn't run on your phone until you updated and some of the older ROMs wouldn't work until they had been updated to work on the newest OTA or leak. The ROMs were just overlays and usually only added a little bit of added performance or functionality.
Would updating to the latest OTA via Odin add any benefits like it did on the RAZR ? I know the RAZR wasn't unlocked and we weren't flashing ROMs like we do on the GS3 but.....
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no not on samsung devices...you can go from f2 to the latest with no issues.
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no not on samsung devices...you can go from f2 to the latest with no issues.
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No I get that, I was meaning are there any positive side effects from using the newest JB leak as your base ROM before flashing a new one. Like flashing the new JB leak via Odin, then unlocking and flashing a new ROM on top of it. Will there be any benefits like there were on the RAZR or when we flash in custom recoveries does it completely do away with the stock ROM that was on the system partition and replace it with whatever we flash? I know on the RAZR you would use the ROM you were on as a base you flash whatever else you wanted and there were benefits to having a certain OTA as your base before you flashed. I don't think I'm doing a very good job of phrasing my question, I apologize for that. Its just a hard question to put into words.
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No I get that, I was meaning are there any positive side effects from using the newest JB leak as your base ROM before flashing a new one. Like flashing the new JB leak via Odin, then unlocking and flashing a new ROM on top of it. Will there be any benefits like there were on the RAZR or when we flash in custom recoveries does it completely do away with the stock ROM that was on the system partition and replace it with whatever we flash? I know on the RAZR you would use the ROM you were on as a base you flash whatever else you wanted and there were benefits to having a certain OTA as your base before you flashed. I don't think I'm doing a very good job of phrasing my question, I apologize for that. Its just a hard question to put into words.
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no not on samsung devices...the reason you needed to do that on the moto device is because of the locked bootloader. meaning you couldnt replace the kernel, so you had to ota to the latest, then root , recovery, and flash rom. since our device is fully unlocked, we dont have to worry about this. most if not all roms for d2vzw are packaged with a kernel. so it does not matter what current base your on, flashing a rom will overwrite it.
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no not on samsung devices...the reason you needed to do that on the moto device is because of the locked bootloader. meaning you couldnt replace the kernel, so you had to ota to the latest, then root , recovery, and flash rom. since our device is fully unlocked, we dont have to worry about this. most if not all roms for d2vzw are packaged with a kernel. so it does not matter what current base your on, flashing a rom will overwrite it.
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That's what I thought. I was just wanting a little clarification on that. Thanks man!!!
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I rooted and flashed a custom ROM to my phone several months ago, but now I need to take it in for repairs/replacement. So, I want to take it back to stock and reset the flash counter. But I have a few questions that I am confused about.
1) Is flashing a stock ROM with Odin, and restoring a stock backup with TWRP basically the same thing? (When/Why would you do one, or the other?). I did make a TWRP backup after I rooted, and before I flashed the custom ROM..
2) Does it matter which version of Odin you use with your phone or ROM? I have 2 versions of stock ROM for my phone (Galaxy Note 2). The later version flashes fine every time. The older one flashes fine (Odin says: Success 1 / Fail 0), but hangs when booting. I have downloaded that older ROM from 3 different locations and all do the same thing. Why would one stock ROM flash fine every time, but the other not???
3) I currently have that newer stock ROM flashed on the phone, but the flash counter says 2. I didn't know you had to be rooted to reset the flash counter with TriangleAway. So, now it looks like I have to root my phone all over again go reset the flash counter. But if I root the phone, reset the flash counter to 0, and then flash a stock ROM, won't that then increase the Flash Counter to 1?
Thanks for any help!
Snack
No its different
When u flash with odin you will on stock
When you flash with twrp(i dont know about twrp) u will get to your stock rom but rooted
Yes its matters
U use odin given with particular phone
It is because of odin version that one rom was flashing fine and not the other
No it would not once you are on stock it will disappear
This should fix ur problem:thumbup:
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Thanks amit!
Is there somewhere that lists which phones that should use which versions of Odin? I could not find a list..
Snacko
SnackoDog said:
Thanks amit!
Is there somewhere that lists which phones that should use which versions of Odin? I could not find a list..
Snacko
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U will get ur odin where u search for ur rom
There is no such list
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Hmm... well I got my stock ROMs from SamMobile.com and they did not come with Odin. I don't even see Odin available on their site. I have downloaded several stock roms from different places and they did not have Odin. That's why I have been confused if you need different versions of Odin for different phones. Also because there is no site that has a list.
But I did download Chainfire's CF Auto-Root to root and flash TWRP only. And that download did come with Odin3 v1.85. So, at this point I am 'guessing' that this is the version of Odin I should use for my phone (Galaxy Note 2 SGH-I317), but it's just a guess. So, I used this version of Odin to flash one of those earlier stock ROMs that were hanging during boot. And they still hang at boot, so I don't know if it's Odin or the stock roms or what. But this v1.85 does also flash my later stock ROM with JB 4.1.2, which flashed fine also with the v3.07 of Odin. So, both versions of Odin work for that stock, but not the other stock ROMs. Very strange...
Try googling how to flash stock rom of ur device
And use odin to flash cwm
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Clearing up some confusion
I ran into the same kind of issue having recieved a working version of odin with my root from cf auto root site... then came the 5.0 lollipop and the desire to ditch sprint and go to metro pcs...
everything is about a year old, or there abouts, and I see alot of posts pointing to http://www.sammobile.com/ .... first of all they most certainly do not have every firmware like they claim and they absolutly don't have old versions... they make mention of some but as far as the links working out.... :crying:
much baiting and switching with these samsung devices....
I did find a post where a guy almost sounded like he knew what he was talking about until he went on to say that it is not an exact science and it is all based on if - then , chance- happening
either works or it doesn't.... likelihood of you bricking while trying to flash stock rom is very low... but you can read what he said anyway... nothing past first post though as it doesn't lead anywhere... unless you have one of the model numbers he refers too... and even then, maybe not..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/themes-apps/27-08-2013-odin-3-09-odin-1-85-versions-t2189539
this site was the only one that had what i needed as far as the stock ROM pre lollipop
http://server14.stockroms.net/download/GalaxyS5/SM-G900P/G900PVPU1ANCB_G900PSPT1ANCB_SPR.zip
and wouldn't you know ... no link to ODIN... so .... I found a every-version-having-download-site
http://odindownload.com/Samsung-Odin/#.VY2WBPlVhBc
but of course there is no heads or tails to be understood from that site either... but at least you will have every version and don't have to worry about trying to find the next one....
Hope this helped....:laugh: